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5-12 prediction from SNY

dabru : 5/27/2024 2:29 pm
Last place nfc east… no need to watch I guess

But watch out for those playoff bound jets
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 2:37 pm : link
5-12 doesn't see outlandish @ all to me.
Too early for any predictions.  
Optimus-NY : 5/27/2024 2:38 pm : link
It's May 25th for God's sake.
Optimus.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 2:39 pm : link
It's May 27th for me.
So let me get this straight  
Eightshamrocks : 5/27/2024 2:41 pm : link
The Giants finally have a number 1 receiver, finally have seemingly improved the o-line, finally seemingly have a healthy, motivated Daniel Jones, and improved the defense and they will finish with a WORSE record than last season when they had the worst o-line in football and their starting QB playing only 4 full games? No wonder SNY is nothing but a shill for the Jets. Total joke. I understand if Jones gets hurt again, and the teams gets ravaged by injuries again. But no preseason prediction is made by predicting injuries. They just want to piss off Giants fans. Mission accomplished.
Of course SNY will pick the Jets to go to the playoffs;  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/27/2024 2:44 pm : link
SNY is the home of the Jets.
RE: Optimus.  
Optimus-NY : 5/27/2024 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16525299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It's May 27th for me.


Close enough, lol. I've lost brain cells watching the Mets and Giants, haha.
RE: ...  
dabru : 5/27/2024 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16525295 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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5-12 doesn't see outlandish @ all to me.


It wouldn’t surprise me but neither would 9-8.
Sadly, the Giants are a losing  
Dave on the UWS : 5/27/2024 3:03 pm : link
pathetic organization- until they’re not. Winning is the only solution.
A prediction of 5-12 is pessimistic but reasonable  
81_Great_Dane : 5/27/2024 3:04 pm : link
as long as the Giants are in QB hell. Everything else can improve but if the QB play is lousy you can’t predict anything more than that.

If the QB play is just mediocre and the D improves, and the new guys play well, than a winning record would be within reach. But if we get 2023 DJ and the backups don’t improve, it’s gonna be a loooonnnnggg season.
I can imagine a somewhat competitive season similar to 2022  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2024 3:05 pm : link
but I’m not buying the offensive line improvement until I see it. Fooled too many times.
RE: So let me get this straight  
Darwinian : 5/27/2024 3:09 pm : link
In comment 16525300 Eightshamrocks said:
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The Giants finally have a number 1 receiver, finally have seemingly improved the o-line, finally seemingly have a healthy, motivated Daniel Jones, and improved the defense and they will finish with a WORSE record than last season when they had the worst o-line in football and their starting QB playing only 4 full games? No wonder SNY is nothing but a shill for the Jets. Total joke. I understand if Jones gets hurt again, and the teams gets ravaged by injuries again. But no preseason prediction is made by predicting injuries. They just want to piss off Giants fans. Mission accomplished.


Feel like I've heard about improvements to these groups before. What happened then? By the way, didn't every other team "improve" too.
So they must assume Jones starts all 17 games  
nygiantfan : 5/27/2024 3:12 pm : link
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Too  
Spider43 : 5/27/2024 3:19 pm : link
Pessimistic.
Sorry  
Hilary : 5/27/2024 4:06 pm : link
The giants went 3-3 in division last year. It will be
hard to do better this year. The commies are improved.
Cowboys beat us by 40 twice. Eagles have Barkley and
got the quality corners in round 1 and 2. The NFC north is tough.
The only ways the Giants win more than five games
Big jumps in performance Neal Schmitz Flott
& Giants better luck with injuries than opponents.
RE: So they must assume Jones starts all 17 games  
BigBlueShock : 5/27/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16525314 nygiantfan said:
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Looks like they predict he will miss 5 games to me…
RE: Sadly, the Giants are a losing  
section125 : 5/27/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16525307 Dave on the UWS said:
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pathetic organization- until they’re not. Winning is the only solution.


Geezus, did that hurt your head making that statement. I doubt a Pulitzer is on its way to you....
I'll say it until I'm blue in the face:  
mittenedman : 5/27/2024 4:27 pm : link
If this team stays healthy and goes 5-12, Good Lord....it will be hard to have any confidence at all in Schoen and Daboll.
RE: I'll say it until I'm blue in the face:  
Darwinian : 5/27/2024 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16525337 mittenedman said:
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If this team stays healthy and goes 5-12, Good Lord....it will be hard to have any confidence at all in Schoen and Daboll.


You're right. We shouldn't look at the quarterback
I don't view it as an outrageous prediction  
moespree : 5/27/2024 4:38 pm : link
The roster is improved. And on paper they do have enough talent to have a decent season.

But the most important position maybe in any sport remains a valid and top question.

And if the QB position does not improve, they will continue into the abyss. It's as simple as that.
The 2024 Giants are Schrödinger's NFL team  
SteelGiant : 5/27/2024 4:43 pm : link
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5-12 is certainly possible if they play like 2022 but have  
Metnut : 5/27/2024 4:51 pm : link
bad luck in close games.
It’s gonna come down  
cjac : 5/27/2024 4:51 pm : link
To those 5 or 6 plays, in 5 or 6 games.

And that’ll be the difference between 10-7 or 5-12 this year.

Either way, we are very far away from being a team who can win a championship
5-12?  
Sean : 5/27/2024 5:15 pm : link
New regime incoming then.
Sean.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 5:16 pm : link
BB incoming.
finally seemingly have a healthy, motivated Daniel Jones,  
averagejoe : 5/27/2024 5:25 pm : link
That is why they are predicting a worse record. In a strange coincidence Giants winning percentage always seems higher without him....lololol
RE: Of course SNY will pick the Jets to go to the playoffs;  
averagejoe : 5/27/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16525301 Dave in Hoboken said:
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SNY is the home of the Jets.


This is a shocking prediction for a team that are Super Bowl contenders every year .
5-12 Is A VERY Reasonable Prediction  
BlueVinnie : 5/27/2024 5:53 pm : link
I predicted 4-6 wins myself. If you go through the schedule game by game, I'm not sure how anybody can come up with 8-10 wins as many called it on that record prediction thread that was up a few weeks ago.
Same QB  
JonC : 5/27/2024 6:06 pm : link
same ugly type of season expected.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 6:08 pm : link
I think predicting wins in the spring is idiotic and a fool’s errand, but I don’t really see this team being all that good.

I hope I’m wrong.
RE: ...  
Adirondack GMen : 5/27/2024 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16525295 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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5-12 doesn't see outlandish @ all to me.

I agree since that’s 5-12 on paper. Not one contact, not one scrimmage so let’s add 50% to the win side once we see what product we have come post pre-season.
RE: ...  
Adirondack GMen : 5/27/2024 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16525295 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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5-12 doesn't see outlandish @ all to me.

I agree since that’s 5-12 on paper. Not one contact, not one scrimmage so let’s add 50% to the win side once we see what product we have come post pre-season. I hope!
Between  
BigBlueinDE : 5/27/2024 6:23 pm : link
this and some of the commentary on BBI, let's just cancel the effing season.
Im sorry but wasnt the argument for the draft  
HardTruth : 5/27/2024 6:27 pm : link
That the Giants had “too many holes” and “not enough talent” to draft a QB?

Now its surprising that media people think the Giants wont be very good?
It really depends on health  
Milton : 5/27/2024 6:30 pm : link
It's a young and talented team that will get better as the season progresses. If the injury gods are good to us, I expect 10 to 12 wins.
RE: It really depends on health  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 6:32 pm : link
In comment 16525387 Milton said:
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It's a young and talented team that will get better as the season progresses. If the injury gods are good to us, I expect 10 to 12 wins.


No offense, but 10-12 wins? Please explain.

I think that is loco.
It's hard to  
darren in pdx : 5/27/2024 6:36 pm : link
imagine this team surpassing 7 wins, 5 sounds about right.
Giant will be bad for reasons we don't need to mention again  
ElitoCanton : 5/27/2024 6:38 pm : link
but the Eagles are massively overrated right now. They were horrid down the stretch. And they lost the best player on the OL and the guy that held everythig together. They also lost a couple of key pieces on defense. I think they could very well be coming back to the pack.
This could very well be the ceiling...  
The Mike : 5/27/2024 6:43 pm : link
Three wins seems more likely. Who exactly are they beating? Maybe a couple of NFC South opponents and a split with the Commanders? I would be shocked if they beat any of the AFC North teams. Maybe it will be wins against the Vikings and the Colts again to ensure they miss out on their quarterback in 2025? How fitting would that be? A perfect book end to Brian Daboll's NYG coaching career courtesy of our coach killer!
RE: RE: It really depends on health  
BigBlueShock : 5/27/2024 6:47 pm : link
In comment 16525388 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16525387 Milton said:


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It's a young and talented team that will get better as the season progresses. If the injury gods are good to us, I expect 10 to 12 wins.



No offense, but 10-12 wins? Please explain.

I think that is loco.

Milton absolutely loves him some Daniel Jones.

I’ll leave it to you to figure out what that means for his football acumen…
RE: RE: It really depends on health  
Milton : 5/27/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16525388 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No offense, but 10-12 wins? Please explain.

I think that is loco.
There's a lot of good, young talent on the team. Enough of which to put together double digit wins if the key players stay healthy and they're well coached. This is not a team without feathers.
RE: RE: RE: It really depends on health  
SGMen : 5/27/2024 7:47 pm : link
In comment 16525405 Milton said:
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In comment 16525388 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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No offense, but 10-12 wins? Please explain.

I think that is loco.

There's a lot of good, young talent on the team. Enough of which to put together double digit wins if the key players stay healthy and they're well coached. This is not a team without feathers.
I'm in agreement: 10 wins is not out of the question so long as the key guys stay healthy. I mean lets be real but there is nowhere to go but up.
Whatever one's view, Connor Hughes' comment about Week 1  
shyster : 5/27/2024 7:59 pm : link
is rather absurd: "It's hard to see the Giants winning this game."

Huh? It's already an insult that the Vikes opened as a 1 point favorite, but c'mon, that would make it a tossup.

I expect Darnold to play and Giants to win.

Giants really need to get off to a 2-0 start by beating the Commanders the following week, and they will have a good shot.

Even giving NYG six straight losses Weeks 3-8, I still get them at 7-10 on a quick run-through.

I would be surprised (somewhat) by either less than six wins or more than nine.
The same Connor Hughes  
ElitoCanton : 5/27/2024 8:30 pm : link
who declared the Giants have their franchise QB after week 2 last year. He has the football knowledge of a dead flea.
I don’t see it that way  
UberAlias : 5/27/2024 8:36 pm : link
I seriously doubt we lose more games than last year. But I’m tired of trying to convince anyone. Just drop the smugness if/when proven wrong.
I think it is very shortsighted  
TrueBlue56 : 5/27/2024 8:44 pm : link
To predict a 5 win team. In the last 2 seasons under Schoen and Daboll this team went 15-18-1. Daniel Jones is 10-11-1. Last year we won 6 games. Barkley missed 3 games, Waller missed 5 games, Andrew Thomas missed 7 games, Evan Neal 10 games. Devito as an undrafted rookie started 6 games.

This team has talented players that can make plays. We have seen teams in the past where we had absolutely no one on a top level or barely even had starting caliber players. It was easy to see a 5 win team. This is not that team despite what some may claim.
RE: I don’t see it that way  
BigBlueShock : 5/27/2024 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16525429 UberAlias said:
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I seriously doubt we lose more games than last year. But I’m tired of trying to convince anyone. Just drop the smugness if/when proven wrong.

So it’s “smug” to think that a team that has sucked for over a decade will suck again? That’s an interesting way of looking at it. So what to we call those that blindly believe the team will be good? I’m guessing you have a cute, cuddly description for their (your) opinion? I’ll give you one “ignorant”. I could come up with a bunch of those type names but I don’t get offended by those with different opinions as you seem to. May I suggest finding a safe space?
Let’s go  
SleepyOwl : 5/27/2024 8:52 pm : link
Blue!!!!
RE: RE: I don’t see it that way  
knowledgetimmons : 5/27/2024 9:05 pm : link
Kind of ironic that a guy who is triggered by the word smug is suggesting a safe space in response.

Who are these teams on the Giants schedule  
colin : 5/27/2024 9:07 pm : link
That scare you? Bengals and Ravens, sure. Outside of them, the Eagles, and the Cowboys, I see about 11 games that are there for the taking. Last I checked, the Giants still play in the National Football League, not the National QB League.

The Giants are going to have one of the best DL in the league, a top 10 MLB, and Banks is a stud. The secondary has lot of young talent which will look a lot better with Burns, KT, Sexy Dexy, and Azeez getting after the QB. On the offensive side, there is a shit load of talent at the WR position, the RB room is the biggest question mark to me but a lot of intriguing players, and an OL which is improved, and just statistically impossible to be that injured again, with a significant improvement in coaching.

The Giants are more than the QB position. I’m willing to concede that DJ is a negative player at the position, but Geno Smith and Kirk Cousins were in the pro bowl last year, and Goff was an alternate, no one in the NFC has the position figured out, outside of the Eagles. QB play across the league sucks. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Giants start 2-1/3-0, and if that happens, I could easily see ‘em winning 10 games. More likely they win 7-9 games, but this squad is not as bad as people say they are. I mean, despite what Parcells said, they weren’t as bad last year as their record last year either. They had shit luck with injuries and the wheels fell off because Wink saw his window of opportunity to get a HC job slam shut so he went on a smear campaign.

Fuck the “wah wah” bullshit ‘cause our QB stinks, and fuck the people who think being a fan means shitting on your own team until you’re right so you can say you were right. This team is going to the playoffs. Or they’ll go 7-10 and I’ll be crying with the rest of you, but I’d rather at least have SOME hope.
RE: RE: I don’t see it that way  
dabru : 5/27/2024 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16525437 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16525429 UberAlias said:


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I seriously doubt we lose more games than last year. But I’m tired of trying to convince anyone. Just drop the smugness if/when proven wrong.


So it’s “smug” to think that a team that has sucked for over a decade will suck again? That’s an interesting way of looking at it. So what to we call those that blindly believe the team will be good? I’m guessing you have a cute, cuddly description for their (your) opinion? I’ll give you one “ignorant”. I could come up with a bunch of those type names but I don’t get offended by those with different opinions as you seem to. May I suggest finding a safe space?


Sucked for over a decade but their best season in that time included a playoff win 2 seasons ago. Last year the wheels fell of for a number or reasons, mostly injuries, but it doesn’t mean they can’t get back to the momentum of 2022.
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