I find it incredibly boring. The lack of excitement is brutal.
Announcers don't make the game but the calls can certainly add to it.
Not that it means anything and I'm not a hater. Just an observation where the soft voice doesn't work at all for me. Especially in the playoffs.
No. It's not. It's just boring.
Now she does interviews from behind the bench LOL.
Also - ESPNs audio mixing is terrible. Its been that way for every sport. I always noticed for instance if the Giants were on ESPN it sounded like no crowd was there. You can especially tell with the Knicks/rangers in the playoffs. They do an awful job of picking up stadium noise.
You can tell there are moments where Breen is intentionally trying to get something from either of them and it's just silence.
It does seem like Dorris is intentionally trying to dial it back. But now it's to the point where she barely says anything.
The majority of men who do the color commentary are unbearable.
The majority of men who do the color commentary are unbearable.
That's the thing. We have ripped on men sports commentators since the dawn of time without thinking of it.
Someone doesn't like a particular woman announcer?and it's a big deal? Eh. That's life.
I don’t know what’s funnier - this post, or the pearl clutching in response.
Oh, and it's not pearl clutching - it's pointing out stupidity and bigotry - in part because it's not ripping on individual announcers, it's painting with a ridiculously wide brush.
Mostly, it's pathetic.
Agree. Fun personality and knows the game.
I personally really like Doris Burke too. She really knows her shit.
On the flip side, I don't like Suzyn Waldman. I find her color commentary to be pretty inane. I don't find her insights to be anything better than the average fan and she has a voice best suited for print journalism.
Haha, +1. I loved him as a Knick but man, I'd rather listen to Reggie fucking Miller than him in a game. Terrible.
Some over-talk (like AJ), but that's not unique to the women, so many men announcers do it too. you need a real pro to be confident letting the moment do the talking.
I do think the format is a little too formulaic though - make it more natural. Most fans don't care about the gender of who describes the game for them as long as they do it well.
This is satire, right?
Please?
I do find it interesting, though, that such an unaccomplished female athlete so quickly ascended in broadcasting. That said, I think she deserves it, so maybe not so crazy.
I don't have a problem with female announcers, per se. What I do have a problem with is, and this is especially in football, when they get sideline gigs clearly for nothing more than looks. If they offer nothing to the broadcast, then skip them.
Mercy
I would rather listen to men call the games or talk sports in general. There are some great female studio hosts especially Rebecca Lowe covering the EPL for NBC. She's one of the best in the business regardless of gender.
I like the old school hosts like Hannah Storm and Linda Cohn but again that's more of a generational thing than a gender one. Probably because I'm getting old.
I would rather listen to men call the games or talk sports in general. There are some great female studio hosts especially Rebecca Lowe covering the EPL for NBC. She's one of the best in the business regardless of gender.
I like the old school hosts like Hannah Storm and Linda Cohn but again that's more of a generational thing than a gender one. Probably because I'm getting old.
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Agree. Fun personality and knows the game.
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We'll see how she is as a mentor, though. She is very close with Meredith Marakovits, whoseems to be one of the people potentially in line to fill in for Suzyn and ultimately replace her, as she did last weekend. I didn't get to hear her broadcast, though.
Anecdotally, I find most are not. But, I think it's the wrong women chosen for the wrong reasons most of the time.
What percentage of male commentators do you find good at their job?
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It's almost as if some women are good at it, and some not. Kind of like how some men are good at it, and some not?
Anecdotally, I find most are not. But, I think it's the wrong women chosen for the wrong reasons most of the time.
What percentage of male commentators do you find good at their job?
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It's almost as if some women are good at it, and some not. Kind of like how some men are good at it, and some not?
Anecdotally, I find most are not. But, I think it's the wrong women chosen for the wrong reasons most of the time.
What percentage of male commentators do you find good at their job?
Good question. Not overwhelming, but I think more because I don't think most of them are being hired for their looks. Also, more often than not, in the booth, the color-men/analysts are often former players or coaches, who offer a unique insight, which most of the females counterparts do not. At least not in football and in baseball, the softball experience isn't the same thing.
If the decision is Doris Burke vs. Mark Jackson, it's Burke by a mile. The guy who she replaced is terrible.
The reason I ask about male commentators, is my sense is fans just don't like a lot of the people who do that job.
If the decision is Doris Burke vs. Mark Jackson, it's Burke by a mile. The guy who she replaced is terrible.
The reason I ask about male commentators, is my sense is fans just don't like a lot of the people who do that job.
If the decision is Doris Burke vs. Mark Jackson, it's Burke by a mile. The guy who she replaced is terrible.
The reason I ask about male commentators, is my sense is fans just don't like a lot of the people who do that job.
I don't disagree on Jackson. The problem is I just don't like Burke either. Never have.
Would it be fair to say you don't like Jackson nor Burke, because they are bad commentators, and not because of their gender?
I don't think it's a men versus woman thing, I think like anything else it's just a matter of talent. Doris knows basketball, but is brutally boring to listen to.
I think it was ABC one year had free online streaming of MNF games where you could control the camera you were watching from and could toggle the announcer/color guy off. It was a sublime home viewing experience.
It's one of the reasons I like going to local college football games. Avoid the hassle of NFL games and watch a game with perfect picture and no one telling me what I just saw every play.
It just sounds kind of annoying to me.
When I'm watching a cooking show, however, I'm hanging on every word! 😂 day
Pure entertainment .... but a reminder how the "isms" live and thrive ...
Wah. Someone started a thread and then people discussed the topic. Did that make you sad?
The fact that a bunch of us like Monica McNutt does not qualify as white knighting.