Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
The Vikings defense (likely) isn’t good enough to make players look bad. And nyg likely won’t be fielding the likes of Chris bober, Ian Allen and Wayne lucier along the OL…
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
I don't hate Jones. Stop with this shit. Seriously. Just stop. I don't think he's a good QB...period. I have no personal animus towards him. & I hope he lights it up this fall & I look like a fucking idiot.
I'm just a realist going on his overall body of work in 5 years as an NFL pro.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
Because facts really fuck the narrative that certain posters have. It’s sad, really.
Starting qb in 2022 despite the front office and coaching staff doing just that, I give up. That’s why he was re-signed. Like it or not. The staff valued the stats you insist on ignoring. So that’s cool. Nice fun way to incite discord around here. Keep at it. Have fun with it. Use it to make the same point over and over and over and over. 15 tds. Nah. It was 22. And the offense was actually slightly above average. But you do you. Day after day.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
Focusing on the 15 tds ignores what the giants saw when they signed him. They liked the dual threat ability. They even said exactly that when he was re-signed.
If you think nyg re-sign DJ if he only accounts for 15 TDS while the offense lags below average you’re nuts. At least be fair and balanced. Jones is a dual threat or at least was a dual threat in 2022. Whether it’s sustainable especially now that he’s got the knee remans to be seen. Ignoring that just to spout the same miserable rhetoric is misleading or not entirely factual. It’s fine if you don’t trust his game.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
The thread title was about TE Hockenson. Holy Christ this place is fucking unhinged at the mention of a QB. It clearly devolves into a ranting shitpost by the 3-5 most vocal child brains.
Focusing on the 15 tds ignores what the giants saw when they signed him. They liked the dual threat ability. They even said exactly that when he was re-signed.
If you think nyg re-sign DJ if he only accounts for 15 TDS while the offense lags below average you’re nuts. At least be fair and balanced. Jones is a dual threat or at least was a dual threat in 2022. Whether it’s sustainable especially now that he’s got the knee remans to be seen. Ignoring that just to spout the same miserable rhetoric is misleading or not entirely factual. It’s fine if you don’t trust his game.
The Giants re-signed him because their draft spot was not ideal for a trade up, they had way too many needs on a rebuilding team to give up a crazy number of future firsts given that poor draft spot, the free agent QB market was weak like it is most offseasons, and they rolled dice that he would build on some kind of magic from the end of the season when they played some bad defenses. It was at this moment a huge miscalculation that could cost Daboll and possibly Schoen their jobs unless Jones has some miracle awakening in 2024.
The thread title was about TE Hockenson. Holy Christ this place is fucking unhinged at the mention of a QB. It clearly devolves into a ranting shitpost by the 3-5 most vocal child brains.
I don’t post a lot about Jones on here, I was getting SF’s back on this one because he was right.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
Unless you have a narrative….
I’m not short changing him. His 22 overall TD’s are only three more than Davis Mills and Marcus Mariota’s 19 total TD’s in 2022. Both regarded as bad QB’s on teams with worse rosters than the Giants that season. What is missing from the picture?
I’ve cut back on my participation in Jones threads by about 98% and it’s been great. Just not much to say anymore after a whole lot of time wasted on it over the years.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
Unless you have a narrative….
I’m not short changing him. His 22 overall TD’s are only three more than Davis Mills and Marcus Mariota’s 19 total TD’s in 2022. Both regarded as bad QB’s on teams with worse rosters than the Giants that season. What is missing from the picture?
Are you for real?! In your first post you quoted only his passing stats.
That’s being purposely deceptive.
If you truly don’t understand that, i can’t help you….
22 TD’s is horrible for a starting QB in today’s NFL. The 15/7 split are Tim Tebow caliber numbers. Come on with this short changing crap. Other two way QB’s who are regarded as decent are dropping over 30 combined.
Just win games in 2024. If they can score pts, play defense and win games nothing else really matters. We all want stats, but I’d be fine winning games and landing the qb whenever that time comes. They won’t ignore the position even if you think otherwise.
It is what it is at this point. Some of the keys to this season is the defense, OL and DJ’s ability to gain chunk yardage on the ground. Maybe it’s long shot but they did it 2 years ago. It’s what we have to hope for.
is a pain in the ass annoyance. Every thread is being hijacked by SFGFNCAsshole and his buddies. And don't fucking tell me not to read a thread if I don't like it. I read a thread for the OP's title and it gets lost when the illiterate children jump in and take over.
For Christ's sake, enough already.
I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
So then discuss Darnold?
You brought up Jones... Own it.
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
He's played 60 real games.
But we now have this, at least:
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Jack Stroud said:
Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
To tell someone else to stop? Well, I have this little issue about the Constitution, and the Right to free speech. I'll say no more.
Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
He's played 60 real games.
But we now have this, at least:
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Jack Stroud said:
Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants
22 TD’s is horrible for a starting QB in today’s NFL. The 15/7 split are Tim Tebow caliber numbers. Come on with this short changing crap. Other two way QB’s who are regarded as decent are dropping over 30 combined.
Are you honestly defending those numbers as good?
I never said that. But the least you could do is include ALL his numbers, instead of trying to pretend that only his passing stats count.
is a pain in the ass annoyance. Every thread is being hijacked by SFGFNCAsshole and his buddies. And don't fucking tell me not to read a thread if I don't like it. I read a thread for the OP's title and it gets lost when the illiterate children jump in and take over.
For Christ's sake, enough already.
22 TD’s is horrible for a starting QB in today’s NFL. The 15/7 split are Tim Tebow caliber numbers. Come on with this short changing crap. Other two way QB’s who are regarded as decent are dropping over 30 combined.
Are you honestly defending those numbers as good?
It’s easy to defend DJ’s season - he had an elite LT, a big name RB (who had a very good, but not amazing year) and replacement-level play at every other position. With that he led us to an above-average scoring offense with extremely low turnovers and got us a playoff win. He also had an above average QB rating and was #6 in QBR.
You can pick some stats of his to call horrible if you like but you should also be able to admit that he had a good season, especially considering the talent level surrounding him.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
??? - well, obviously you do
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
The Vikings defense (likely) isn’t good enough to make players look bad. And nyg likely won’t be fielding the likes of Chris bober, Ian Allen and Wayne lucier along the OL…
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
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Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
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Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
Thanks SF, you have awoken Daniel Jones’ Dad
I don't hate Jones. Stop with this shit. Seriously. Just stop. I don't think he's a good QB...period. I have no personal animus towards him. & I hope he lights it up this fall & I look like a fucking idiot.
I'm just a realist going on his overall body of work in 5 years as an NFL pro.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
Because facts really fuck the narrative that certain posters have. It’s sad, really.
🤷♂️
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In comment 16526055 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
2 more than Lamar. ;)
If you think nyg re-sign DJ if he only accounts for 15 TDS while the offense lags below average you’re nuts. At least be fair and balanced. Jones is a dual threat or at least was a dual threat in 2022. Whether it’s sustainable especially now that he’s got the knee remans to be seen. Ignoring that just to spout the same miserable rhetoric is misleading or not entirely factual. It’s fine if you don’t trust his game.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
2 more than Lamar. ;)
Lamar did only play 12 games though lol.
If you think nyg re-sign DJ if he only accounts for 15 TDS while the offense lags below average you’re nuts. At least be fair and balanced. Jones is a dual threat or at least was a dual threat in 2022. Whether it’s sustainable especially now that he’s got the knee remans to be seen. Ignoring that just to spout the same miserable rhetoric is misleading or not entirely factual. It’s fine if you don’t trust his game.
The Giants re-signed him because their draft spot was not ideal for a trade up, they had way too many needs on a rebuilding team to give up a crazy number of future firsts given that poor draft spot, the free agent QB market was weak like it is most offseasons, and they rolled dice that he would build on some kind of magic from the end of the season when they played some bad defenses. It was at this moment a huge miscalculation that could cost Daboll and possibly Schoen their jobs unless Jones has some miracle awakening in 2024.
I don’t post a lot about Jones on here, I was getting SF’s back on this one because he was right.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
Unless you have a narrative….
It really is unbelievable.
Hypothetical Thread title: former first round LB from random team is cut.
First post on thread: Daniel Jones was a bigger bust and should be cut.
So mentioning their (alleged) starting QB in week 1 was grounds for you to insert Jones into the conversation why, exactly?
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It really is unbelievable.
Hypothetical Thread title: former first round LB from random team is cut.
First post on thread: Daniel Jones was a bigger bust and should be cut.
And it was the first fucking post!
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
Unless you have a narrative….
I’m not short changing him. His 22 overall TD’s are only three more than Davis Mills and Marcus Mariota’s 19 total TD’s in 2022. Both regarded as bad QB’s on teams with worse rosters than the Giants that season. What is missing from the picture?
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The OP also mentioned-paragraph two-that Darnold is expected to start Week 1. But let's forget about that.
So mentioning their (alleged) starting QB in week 1 was grounds for you to insert Jones into the conversation why, exactly?
Because their other possible QB-JJ-is someone we passed on & if he started Week 1 & Jones looked like shit, it'd be a huge story.
This isn't fucking rocket science.
But please, tell me how I personally hate Daniel Jones.
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I meant ones where he's just posting, not responding to something I said.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
Come on man! Don’t you like 3,200 yards and 15 TD’s from your starting QB? It was good in the early 80’s!
Why do we ignore 700 rushing and 7 tds. Seriously. Why?
22 TD’s is still pretty bad. Especially when only 2/3 were passing. I’m not going to create posts to talk about Jones at this point or pollute every thread with Jones talk, but there’s a reason that they tried to trade up this year for Maye. That was very telling. My fear is a mediocre year from Jones that sneaks them into the playoffs and they stick with him. I want him to either play great, or just fail and we can move on. The in between is frightening.
So if 22 TD’s is still “pretty bad”, why not give the whole picture? Instead of leaving out info to try to support a narrative?
He had three more TD’s in 2022 than Davis Mills (Houston) and Marcus Mariota (Falcons). Bottom half of the league. That’s not something to be excited about.
So i say again - why leave out the whole picture? Why purposely short change him?
Unless you have a narrative….
I’m not short changing him. His 22 overall TD’s are only three more than Davis Mills and Marcus Mariota’s 19 total TD’s in 2022. Both regarded as bad QB’s on teams with worse rosters than the Giants that season. What is missing from the picture?
Are you for real?! In your first post you quoted only his passing stats.
That’s being purposely deceptive.
If you truly don’t understand that, i can’t help you….
Are you honestly defending those numbers as good?
It is what it is at this point. Some of the keys to this season is the defense, OL and DJ’s ability to gain chunk yardage on the ground. Maybe it’s long shot but they did it 2 years ago. It’s what we have to hope for.
For Christ's sake, enough already.
& for the Jones comment..the OP mentioned Darnold starting Week 1. It wasn't like I brought up the QB component. & I stand by what I said about the potential of a Week 1 nightmare scenario. I don't think that's a crazy possibility.
So then discuss Darnold?
You brought up Jones... Own it.
Y'all are fucking pathetic
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Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
He's played 60 real games.
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Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
To tell someone else to stop? Well, I have this little issue about the Constitution, and the Right to free speech. I'll say no more.
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Hockenson not being a go for Week 1 isn't new news no? I felt like we knew this.
As for Darnold starting Week 1, I expect as much. The nightmare Week 1 scenario for the Giants is JJ starts, lights it up, & Jones looks like the Daniel of '23.
Bud, you don’t speak for everyone, but you sure do often act like it. First post on many threads. You enthusiasm is evident. But I wasn’t aware this guy had a major knee injury. Next time try staring off the first response to most threads in a way that doesn’t appear to steer conversation in your one track minded way.
Also stop bringing Daniel Jones into every fucking conversation. It’s insufferable to even people who dislike our QB situation.
To OP, seems like there was an update/comment today about him. Doesn’t sound probably at all for week one.
Well said! We all know he is a true Jones hater and must continue to profess that hate. Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants, but why don't we just wait and see how he does in a real game.
He's played 60 real games.
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Jones may indeed not be the answer at qb for the Giants
Haha that’s amazing
Are you honestly defending those numbers as good?
I never said that. But the least you could do is include ALL his numbers, instead of trying to pretend that only his passing stats count.
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For Christ's sake, enough already.
Yet you commented on it.
Are you honestly defending those numbers as good?
You can pick some stats of his to call horrible if you like but you should also be able to admit that he had a good season, especially considering the talent level surrounding him.