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Giants will go 13-4 this year. Book it!!

Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/29/2024 12:05 pm
As you guys know, mostly, I lean on the side of negativity when it comes to season predictions and I have been very accurate in the past and even predicted the playoff appearence two years ago. However, I see alot of improvement with the coaching staff (Carmen-OL Coach), communication with the players, better commitment from the players, and a seemingly pissed off QB that finally looks like he has an edge to prove something this year.

Here are my other bullet points to justify 13-4:

-This team is only traveling west of Mississippi once this year against Seattle. This bodes well as in last 40 years when this team only travels once to west coast on a single schedule they have at least 10 wins that season.

-I believe this Draft class 2024 will be the Giants best draft class since 1984. Nabers will be an All-Pro in first year, Theo Johnson and Tracy are going to be big surprises. Nubin will be a solid starter at S and that 6th round UCLA LB (Marseau) is going to work his way into the starting lineup

-Our Salary cap actually now has most of all the money on the field (no Golladay money on bench as example).

-7 of the games are against rookie or Journeymen QB's from other teams. When the giants have a schedule of at least 45% QB's of this makeup on a schedule over last 40 years they have a 75% winning percentage. (yes, i evem took into account Kurt Kittner!!-still realing from that loss)

-Dallas and Eagles this year are falling back to pack. No fletcher Cox or Kelce, Dax is barely hanging on and there OL is in flux and they lost some good coaches in Dallas.

In any event, this combination above will serve the Giants well this year.

My loss predictions are 1-1 with Eagles, Dallas, and Seattle.

We will crush Panthers in Munich.




Every year  
Ron Johnson : 5/29/2024 12:17 pm : link
we make moves to fix the OL. Every year, at this time we count on it too be much improved. Every year we've been wrong. At this point I'll believe it when I see it.
We're sweeping the AFC North  
SirLoinOfBeef : 5/29/2024 12:18 pm : link
?

Well then.

.  
Danny Kanell : 5/29/2024 12:22 pm : link
Crazier things have happened.

I stand with Rich!

#YOLO
That's on the crazy side of the bell curve  
UberAlias : 5/29/2024 12:25 pm : link
even fort me.
I think  
gary_from_chester : 5/29/2024 12:26 pm : link
The floor is 6-11, the ceiling is 12-5.

My prediction is 9-8. Expecting some guys to emerge as budding stars (Thibodeaux) and ascending good players (Banks). I like this rookie class and expect more from the 2nd and 3rd year guys.

The keys is QB and OL play. If that clicks, the ceiling is realistic. Likely there will be bumps, so a 9-8 seems like where we’ll land. If QB and OL remain a disaster, then 6 wins is about right. The D will be good this year, and expecting ST to be above average (more focus on ST this year with coaching and player changes).

Hope you’re right, 13 wins would be sweet!
.....  
Klaatu : 5/29/2024 12:29 pm : link
The guy ballsy enough to drag an eagle at the Vet  
FranknWeezer : 5/29/2024 12:36 pm : link
has finally outdone himself! Here's hoping you're right, Rich!
Lol  
islander1 : 5/29/2024 12:43 pm : link
Okay, Ralph.
That is some good sh*t you are smoking  
Mike in NY : 5/29/2024 12:47 pm : link
Where can we find it?
RE: Every year  
Dr. D : 5/29/2024 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16526680 Ron Johnson said:
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we make moves to fix the OL. Every year, at this time we count on it too be much improved. Every year we've been wrong. At this point I'll believe it when I see it.

But we haven't had a new OL coach who's proven with 2 different franchises that he can take a mediocre or bad OL and turn it into a good one.

That along with the talent added on both sides the last 2 yrs., gives me hope. Not 13 win hope, but I think 10-11 wins is possible if we don't get destroyed again by injuries.
I like the optimism Rich  
Dr. D : 5/29/2024 12:57 pm : link
I'll be happy with 10-11 wins and a win or 2 in the playoffs, while building for a SB run in '25 (I know that sounds cray cray to many).
RE: Every year  
BillT : 5/29/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16526680 Ron Johnson said:
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we make moves to fix the OL. Every year, at this time we count on it too be much improved. Every year we've been wrong. At this point I'll believe it when I see it.

This is totally fair. However, we haven’t seen a rebuild like the one Schoen has engineered, ever. Will it work. I don’t know. But this is on a different level than we’ve seen before. Better than the alternative.
I choose to be  
dancing blue bear : 5/29/2024 1:09 pm : link
a bitter, miserable twat.

So, enjoy my incessant whining and negativity all day, everyday

0 & 17, bitches.

Go home and get your shinebox
I'll have what she's having  
rnargi : 5/29/2024 1:15 pm : link
....
RE: We're sweeping the AFC North  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/29/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16526681 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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?

Well then.

Yes, I left the 4th loss off the list which could be balt
The way this schedule lays out and the research I did  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/29/2024 1:25 pm : link
this is how i think we will do. We are playing alot of rookie QB's and Journeyman. A major key this year is that the salary money is all on the field. Not much dead cap.



I'll be happy witha winning season, very happy if we make the playoffs  
Ira : 5/29/2024 1:28 pm : link
and ecstatic if we go deep in the playoffs. My prediction is 8 or 9 wins.
RE: That is some good sh*t you are smoking  
djm : 5/29/2024 1:32 pm : link
In comment 16526711 Mike in NY said:
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Where can we find it?


It's everywhere these days!
Lots of young players who are expected to improve but at least there  
Ivan15 : 5/29/2024 1:38 pm : link
Are none counted on to be Comeback Player of the Year candidates (except maybe Jones). I think that’s a good thing.

Nothing wrong with expectations that young players will have a better year than last year.
RE: I choose to be  
djm : 5/29/2024 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16526730 dancing blue bear said:
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a bitter, miserable twat.

So, enjoy my incessant whining and negativity all day, everyday

0 & 17, bitches.

Go home and get your shinebox


I’ve never seen a miserable dancing blue bear. They are always smiling and so joyful.
Giants are 3-0 overseas  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/29/2024 1:55 pm : link
so there's that
Giants  
Archer : 5/29/2024 2:01 pm : link
The Giants are
+ $1,100 to win the NFC East
+ $6,600 to win the NFC Championship.
+ $15,000 to win SB 59

Lets go Giants
Well....  
56goat : 5/29/2024 2:11 pm : link
I don't think 10 wins is realistic, so 13 is reeeeeeeeeeeeallyy optimistic. Hope you're right, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'll be amazed  
islander1 : 5/29/2024 2:16 pm : link
if we even finish 9-8.
I'd put the over/under at 8  
D HOS : 5/29/2024 2:25 pm : link
And I'll take 9 wins. And I think I am pretty optimistic.
We might not  
SJGiant : 5/29/2024 2:28 pm : link
Even sweep the Washington Commanders who have also improved this year.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/29/2024 2:33 pm : link
From your lips to God’s ears.
I guess OP  
Blueworm : 5/29/2024 2:39 pm : link
Has their face painted blue already.
RE: The way this schedule lays out and the research I did  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/29/2024 2:40 pm : link
In comment 16526745 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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this is how i think we will do. We are playing alot of rookie QB's and Journeyman. A major key this year is that the salary money is all on the field. Not much dead cap.



Would you mind sharing an executive summary of "the research [you] did"?

Is this just a continuation of your incessant repetition of the Golladay dead money last year?
Love your work Rich!  
mfsd : 5/29/2024 2:43 pm : link
Just withdrawing my 401K/IRA money to wager it on Giants at 13 wins next season
Rich.....give me a hit of what you're smoking....  
Fishmanjim57 : 5/29/2024 3:26 pm : link
I'd love it to be true, but reality is still resting on a player wearing #8, and I still have serious doubts about him.
Every team is undefeated currently  
GFAN52 : 5/29/2024 3:30 pm : link
your cup runneth over with optimism.
The research does not lie. This all points to a very good  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/29/2024 3:50 pm : link
season. The missing cogs were a WR1 and a bonafide hulking TE which is what we have now.I think Nabors and Slayton will both eclipse 1000 yard receiving this season.
OP has some good stats but not enough  
Eric on Li : 5/29/2024 3:54 pm : link
pics of the eagle being dragged.
RE: RE: The way this schedule lays out and the research I did  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/29/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16526813 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 16526745 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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this is how i think we will do. We are playing alot of rookie QB's and Journeyman. A major key this year is that the salary money is all on the field. Not much dead cap.





Would you mind sharing an executive summary of "the research [you] did"?

Is this just a continuation of your incessant repetition of the Golladay dead money last year?


I went back to 1980 and counted the record of wins the giants won against first yar or journeyman QB's. I also compared the schedules for each year and outlined who many times in each season they traveled west of Mississippi. In my Findings, every time the Giants only traveled once west of Mississppi in a season they won at least 10 games.
Nice energy  
Simms : 5/29/2024 4:04 pm : link
If we win 13 games will nominate BBI post your smiling face on the home page for a day.
Hope you are right.  
CV36 : 5/29/2024 4:12 pm : link
I will be surprised at anything over 8 wins and shocked at 10 or more.
Please post your Eagle dragging video  
Chris684 : 5/29/2024 4:28 pm : link
I want to watch it again. You are a legend.
RE: RE: RE: The way this schedule lays out and the research I did  
gary_from_chester : 5/29/2024 4:33 pm : link
In comment 16526873 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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In comment 16526813 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 16526745 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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this is how i think we will do. We are playing alot of rookie QB's and Journeyman. A major key this year is that the salary money is all on the field. Not much dead cap.





Would you mind sharing an executive summary of "the research [you] did"?

Is this just a continuation of your incessant repetition of the Golladay dead money last year?



I went back to 1980 and counted the record of wins the giants won against first yar or journeyman QB's. I also compared the schedules for each year and outlined who many times in each season they traveled west of Mississippi. In my Findings, every time the Giants only traveled once west of Mississppi in a season they won at least 10 games.


Post hoc ergo procter hoc.

Mic drop!
Daniel Jones hasnt QB’d any team  
HardTruth : 5/29/2024 5:02 pm : link
At any level

HS, College and/or Pro

To more than 9 regular season victories in a single-season
RE: Daniel Jones hasnt QB’d any team  
ZoneXDOA : 5/29/2024 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16526935 HardTruth said:
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At any level

HS, College and/or Pro

To more than 9 regular season victories in a single-season


There is a first time for everything
If we go 13-4  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/29/2024 5:09 pm : link
I'll ask Eric to change this place to Rich's Corner.
RE: RE: RE: The way this schedule lays out and the research I did  
ZoneXDOA : 5/29/2024 5:21 pm : link
In comment 16526873 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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In comment 16526813 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 16526745 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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this is how i think we will do. We are playing alot of rookie QB's and Journeyman. A major key this year is that the salary money is all on the field. Not much dead cap.





Would you mind sharing an executive summary of "the research [you] did"?

Is this just a continuation of your incessant repetition of the Golladay dead money last year?



I went back to 1980 and counted the record of wins the giants won against first yar or journeyman QB's. I also compared the schedules for each year and outlined who many times in each season they traveled west of Mississippi. In my Findings, every time the Giants only traveled once west of Mississppi in a season they won at least 10 games.
Don’t let Dunk get you going, man! He loves to sling his own feces at people with differing opinions. Your data is actually interesting! But what matters most is that, on paper, we’ve greatly improved the roster this off season. OL, TE, WR, RB Committee, DL, LB was already solid. Secondary is a question mark but I really like everyone we’ve got covering. I think, for the first time since he was drafted, Jones has his destiny in his own hands! Limit the injuries and he has no excuses whatsoever if he doesn’t rise up and prove he can be a QB1. Everything is there. I hope he crushes it this year and silences the haters. But if he doesn’t? The BBI Blow it for Beck campaign will be in full swing. Or maybe wait until 2026 and Abandon for Arch?

I hope you’re right and it’s REALLY nice to see some positivity here!!
From your lips to God's ears....  
nyblue56 : 5/29/2024 5:45 pm : link
Let this happen.
Not sure about 13-4  
Breeze_94 : 5/29/2024 7:12 pm : link
But I think they’ll win more games than people expect.

The main reason is Coaching. I still believe they got the right guy in Daboll. His coaching job in 2022 was among the best I’ve ever seen. Now he has more talent, and more of his guys…

The other reason is the roster itself. Burns and Nabers change the dynamic of their position groups and entire units. WR and Edge are two positions where you need an alpha in the group. It changes the way opponents gameplan for you, and it frees up the complementary pieces while sliding others in roles where they are better suited (Edge: KT as a #2, Azeez as a rotational guy WR: Hyatt as a field stretcher, WDR as an underneath guy working against Nickels, Slayton as a #3 or #4 option)
"Believe it  
PEEJ : 5/29/2024 8:39 pm : link
and it will happen"
This is  
TinVA : 5/30/2024 11:54 am : link
HILARIOUS!! I knew I would get a good chuckle clicking on this thread:-)
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