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NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June)

DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 10:45 am
DSL Season begins on Monday, some bookkeeping

06/01/24 RHP Johan Moreno assigned to DSL Mets Blue.
06/01/24 RHP Leyvi Rodriguez assigned to DSL Mets Blue.
06/01/24 LHP Wilmer Lugo assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Deivy Victora assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 LHP Darling Felix assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Luisner Lopez assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Jermayne Verdu assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Deivy Victora assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 LHP Wilmer Lugo assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 LHP Darling Felix assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Luisner Lopez assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.
06/01/24 RHP Jermayne Verdu assigned to DSL Mets Blue from DSL Mets Orange.


AAA
Choi granted his release
Acuna 1-3, BB
Ritter 0-3 BB, 3 k's
Bannon 2-4
Thomas 1-4

Hamel 5 innings 5 hits 2 runs 3 walks 3 k's (Awful era and too many walks but I still believe he's a big league arm, likely a RP)
Drew Smith (rehab) 1 perfect


Bing
Rudick 1-4
Parada 0-4
McLean 2-4, HR, 2b
Clifford 0-3,BB, 3 k's (He's been very disappointing, no two ways about it)

Stuart 5 innings 7 hits 3 runs 2 walks 6 k's (another likely big leaguer but RPer)
McLoughlin 1.2 innings 2 walks (1.15 era on the season)
Gervase 0.2 innings 2 hits 4 runs 3 walks 2 k's (yuck)


BK
Morabito 0-4, 3 k's
Lorusso 0-3, BB, SB, 2 k's (should be in Bing)
Suero 1-4, 2 k's

Orellana 2.1 innings 4 hits 2 runs 1 walk 1 k (first poor outing of the season)
Julian Smith *organizational debut* 0.2 perfect

St.Lucie
Baro 3-5, 2b, K
Baez 0-4, 2 k's
Hernandez 1-4
Houck 1-4, 2b, K (awful first 2 months)
Rosa 0-4, 2 k's
Fanas 1-3, BB

Gomez 5 innings 7 hits 2 runs 3 walks 4 k's (One to watch)
Ammons 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's

FCL
J-Rod 2-6, BB, K, 2 CS
Ewing 2-4, 2 2B, 2 BB, 2 k's (1.008 OPS on the season)
Zitella 3-5, 2 2B, 2 k's (Hitting .349)
Juan 4-4, HR, 2 BB (monster game came into the game 2 for his last 33, talk about a slump buster)
Cota 4 innings 2 hits 2 runs 1 walk 9 k's
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never thought id hit the point of being happy drew smith returning  
Eric on Li : 6/1/2024 11:00 am : link
but the mlb roster could use him.

dan who can we think of in mlb that profiled similarly to morabito? 21 at A+, athletic, and just keeps hitting. have seen him make some good catches in CF and some good throws from RF.

at the link below stearns talks about double promotions in the same season as uncommon but that they are looking to challenge their prospects at levels where they struggle and have to adjust, gotta think AA is on the table for Morabito this year if he continues playing well. an OF version of masyn wynn or gimenez? less power mcneil maybe?
David Stearns Talks Baty, Christian Scott and His Opinion on Mets Prospects | Meet at the Apple Pod - ( New Window )
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:05 am : link
J-Rod 0/1 K, Ewing 0/1, BB, K, Henriquez (OB machine .469 coming into today) 2 walks, Zitella 0/2 #Mets
RE: never thought id hit the point of being happy drew smith returning  
DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:09 am : link
In comment 16528646 Eric on Li said:
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but the mlb roster could use him.

dan who can we think of in mlb that profiled similarly to morabito? 21 at A+, athletic, and just keeps hitting. have seen him make some good catches in CF and some good throws from RF.

at the link below stearns talks about double promotions in the same season as uncommon but that they are looking to challenge their prospects at levels where they struggle and have to adjust, gotta think AA is on the table for Morabito this year if he continues playing well. an OF version of masyn wynn or gimenez? less power mcneil maybe? David Stearns Talks Baty, Christian Scott and His Opinion on Mets Prospects | Meet at the Apple Pod - ( New Window )



Keith Law thinks Morabito thinks Morabito has 20/30 upside vs. Longerhagen who doesn't think he's even a 4th OFer lol a couple of months ago somebody I spoke to felt his ceiling was a Bader type. Bader career .313/.393/.466 at Florida and then .302/.364/.502 in A ball.
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:12 am : link
AAA
TBD

AA
Suarez

A+
Tong

A
Thornton

FCL
Chirinos
RE: RE: never thought id hit the point of being happy drew smith returning  
Eric on Li : 6/1/2024 11:16 am : link
In comment 16528651 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16528646 Eric on Li said:


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but the mlb roster could use him.

dan who can we think of in mlb that profiled similarly to morabito? 21 at A+, athletic, and just keeps hitting. have seen him make some good catches in CF and some good throws from RF.

at the link below stearns talks about double promotions in the same season as uncommon but that they are looking to challenge their prospects at levels where they struggle and have to adjust, gotta think AA is on the table for Morabito this year if he continues playing well. an OF version of masyn wynn or gimenez? less power mcneil maybe? David Stearns Talks Baty, Christian Scott and His Opinion on Mets Prospects | Meet at the Apple Pod - ( New Window )




Keith Law thinks Morabito thinks Morabito has 20/30 upside vs. Longerhagen who doesn't think he's even a 4th OFer lol a couple of months ago somebody I spoke to felt his ceiling was a Bader type. Bader career .313/.393/.466 at Florida and then .302/.364/.502 in A ball.


admittedly ive only watched a few highlights but he didnt glide in CF the way a bader does. a bader glove is almost an automatic 10 year big leaguer.

20/30 would be unreal, that's peak mcneil. i can see a little bit of that in morabito, especially since it seems like he is not an exit velo guy (which may be one of the reasons why logenhagen is down on him).

someone with good data access should do a study on guys like araez/mcneil who have extreme low EV but square up everything. if i were a GM those are the kinds of fall through cracks players id try to take chances on with non-premium picks.

Morabito was the thor comp pick, would be nice if he ends up helping that legacy.
Morabito  
DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:21 am : link
is new to CF to be fair to him (Bader is GG caliber out there) so I'm not saying he'll ever be as good but Morabito played mostly SS in HS
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:24 am : link
J-Rod with a single and a SB (his 8th) #Mets
RE: Morabito  
Eric on Li : 6/1/2024 11:26 am : link
In comment 16528657 DanMetroMan said:
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is new to CF to be fair to him (Bader is GG caliber out there) so I'm not saying he'll ever be as good but Morabito played mostly SS in HS


i may be trying to overprotect from getting over skis like mangum. but obviously he was a lot older and i think basically a senior sign, so probably should have been more wary. morabito got a 1m bonus slightly over slot so totally different category of player.
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:34 am : link
suspect Morabito is more of a 4th OF than somebody to get incredibly "excited" over but Mangum (as you noted) was 23 his draft season and had real questions about how his bat would translate.
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:37 am : link
Elian Soto (brother of Yankees superstar Juan Soto) who reportedly had an agreement with @mets only to sign with the Nationals is now 20/117 with 51 k's to begin his pro career #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:39 am : link
Yonatan Henriquez 278 career ab's 67 walks 70 k's #Mets
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Named Later : 6/1/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16528677 DanMetroMan said:
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Elian Soto (brother of Yankees superstar Juan Soto) who reportedly had an agreement with @mets only to sign with the Nationals is now 20/117 with 51 k's to begin his pro career #Mets


Ouch !!

The Baseball gods didn't like that 'double cross' too much, did they.
AAA game ended early last night  
Steve L : 6/1/2024 11:48 am : link
Reyes back swing hit the Bison’s catcher in the head pretty bad. Not sure of the status of the catcher.
RE: AAA game ended early last night  
DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:50 am : link
In comment 16528687 Steve L said:
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Reyes back swing hit the Bison’s catcher in the head pretty bad. Not sure of the status of the catcher.


Update this morning was he's alert and "properly responsive". Sounds like he'll be okay. Here is the video
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Thanks Dan. I'll link this to today's thread.  
Optimus-NY : 6/1/2024 11:51 am : link
Here are the links to the previous two months:


NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm
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DanMetroMan : 6/1/2024 11:58 am : link
Brayhans Barreto (already 23 in the FCL) but has struck out 20 over 14 innings walking only 5 #Mets
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Eric on Li : 6/1/2024 11:59 am : link
In comment 16528674 DanMetroMan said:
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suspect Morabito is more of a 4th OF than somebody to get incredibly "excited" over but Mangum (as you noted) was 23 his draft season and had real questions about how his bat would translate.


yeah i bought in a little too hard thinking the glove would have him as a 4th of, and probably had a little too much late bloomer/mcneil optimism.

there are really very few truly elite glove carry tools. Pache was a top top glove prospect and he has only barely hung on with it as 4th OF.
acuna in a little bit of a slump last 4g but theres a silver lining  
Eric on Li : 6/1/2024 8:21 pm : link
0-3 today,
was 1-3 with walk yesterday,
was 0-4 thursday,
was 1-3 with walk wednesday,

add that up and it's 2 for last 13.

silver lining? he is still making a lot of hard contact. of those 13 at bats:

2x singles (1 was 86 mph, 1 96 mph)
4x 100+ mph outs
5x medium contact (80+ mph)

just 1 strike out and just 1 weak pop out.
Houck  
GF1080 : 6/2/2024 10:45 am : link
First professional HR yesterday.
Sproat  
GF1080 : 6/2/2024 7:39 pm : link
Domination tonight.


7 IP 1 H 0 R 1 BB 10 K. Clocked at over 100.
DSL  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 8:13 am : link
Mets opening day today
More on Sproat...  
pjcas18 : 6/3/2024 8:17 am : link
Thomas Nestico
@TJStats
Brandon Sproat registered a career high 10 K in 7.0 Shutout IP, allowing just 1 H & 1 BB

Sproat registered 38.6 CSW% along with a ludicrous 49.0 Whiff% (24 whiffs)

He now has a 1.23 ERA and 32.1 K% in 51.1 IP across A+ and AA

He is a Top 100 Prospect!
Bowden  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 8:31 am : link
Lists the Mets as one of 6 clear sellers at the deadline
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 8:40 am : link
Sign Jonathan Pintaro
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RE: Bowden  
pjcas18 : 6/3/2024 8:47 am : link
In comment 16529638 DanMetroMan said:
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Lists the Mets as one of 6 clear sellers at the deadline


wow, shocked he'd put himself out there like that. They have the 6th worst record in MLB and 3rd worst in the NL.

RE: More on Sproat...  
Eric on Li : 6/3/2024 10:05 am : link
In comment 16529630 pjcas18 said:
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Thomas Nestico
@TJStats
Brandon Sproat registered a career high 10 K in 7.0 Shutout IP, allowing just 1 H & 1 BB

Sproat registered 38.6 CSW% along with a ludicrous 49.0 Whiff% (24 whiffs)

He now has a 1.23 ERA and 32.1 K% in 51.1 IP across A+ and AA

He is a Top 100 Prospect!


sproat vs tidwell vs tong vs scott, how do you rank them as prospects?

insane that in 1 year all 4 are worthy of top 100 conversation.

(i know scott is already big league tested, but let's pretend he isnt for this and just go by his prospect resume vs the others, it seems like even forgetting what he's done at big league level this is a competitive ranking?)
that's a question for all (dmm, gf, etc) not just pj  
Eric on Li : 6/3/2024 10:09 am : link
sproat and tidwell specifically are hard for me to decouple since they were drafted so close to each other (twice in sproats case) but i think im partial to going with the guy throwing 100+ despite blade tidwell being an 80 grade name.

he and sproat both also went over 100 ips in 2023 - which is a nice bonus.
Love  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:11 am : link
Tong but I'm not sure he even belongs in the conversation with the others. He's all about projection. His "now" velocity is 92-94 (yes, with excellent pitch shape, ride etc) but 92-94 is still a "mediocre" enough velocity in today's game that it's a whole lot of "let's see vs. better hitters".

He's also walked 18 over 40 innings this season (13 over 21.2 innings in Brooklyn. This sounds like I'm being Debbie Downer but I'm really not, I'm just saying he's closer to an exciting "project" than a guy who one could even confidently say "he's going to be a big leaguer" which Scott, Sproat, Tidwell are near 100% locks to be (barring injury).
RE: Love  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:13 am : link
In comment 16529719 DanMetroMan said:
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Tong but I'm not sure he even belongs in the conversation with the others. He's all about projection. His "now" velocity is 92-94 (yes, with excellent pitch shape, ride etc) but 92-94 is still a "mediocre" enough velocity in today's game that it's a whole lot of "let's see vs. better hitters".

He's also walked 18 over 40 innings this season (13 over 21.2 innings in Brooklyn. This sounds like I'm being Debbie Downer but I'm really not, I'm just saying he's closer to an exciting "project" than a guy who one could even confidently say "he's going to be a big leaguer" which Scott, Sproat, Tidwell are near 100% locks to be (barring injury).



Fangraphs rankings were all over the place but the scouting report is still pretty much on point vs. everything I've heard from people I know

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Tong presented an interesting pre-draft dichotomy. He was an old-for-the-class high schooler who was also very skinny and arguably more projectable than a lot of pitchers younger than him. His velocity also grew considerably in the year leading up to the draft, with Tong often working in the 91-95 mph range for the Langley Blaze (a select team of Canadian high schoolers who play all over the U.S. during the spring) and in the 2022 MLB Draft League. It took just a quarter of a million to keep him from a North Dakota State commitment.

After he barely pitched in 2023, Tong started 2024 with a dominant stretch and was quickly promoted to High-A. He’s throwing a bit harder this year, touching 96 and sitting 92-95 after he averaged 92 mph in 2023. Tong’s fastball has plus-plus vertical ride and pure north/south shape with the tiniest bit of cut. It’s an impact fastball that is going to miss bats at the top of the zone. The rest of Tong’s repertoire is still in flux. He used a slow curveball as his primary offspeed weapon until this year when he’s incorporated a slider, which is still very much a work in progress. It can be tough to turn over a changeup from Tong’s vertical arm slot, so it’s pretty important for that slider to progress. This is definitely an arrow-up prospect in the Mets system but you still have to project quite a bit to see the components of a big league starter here, and the frail-looking Tong needs to show he can sustain this level of velocity across a starter’s load of innings. At this juncture, his best role looks like more of a long reliever, as it would give Tong a better chance to sustain this arm strength and lean heavily on his lone impact pitch once through the order.
DSL  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:17 am : link
Orange OD lineup.
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ok so he's #4 how do you rank 1-3?  
Eric on Li : 6/3/2024 10:17 am : link
also just realized tidwell is the youngest of the 3 at 22,
sproat second youngest at 23,
scott 24 but turning 25 in 2 weeks.

for pitchers im not sure it matters since we know odds of getting to 2nd contract aren't great and if they get there they can keep pitching usually into early/mid-30s. but still i guess somewhat notable from a prior experience standpoint.
Sproat  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:22 am : link
has the most upside, Tidwell the most RP risk. Scott probably has the least impressive pure "stuff" but the highest level "pitcher" of the group. If I had to bet on one surpassing expectations or their own stuff it would be Scott, if I had to bet on one becoming more than a #3 type it would be Sproat because when he's on, his stuff is MLB #2 SP level good. I like Tidwell the least of the 3 but that's largely due to the fact his FB velocity is good/very good, it doesn't "play up". 2024 49 innings 49 k's. Long story short I'd still go

Scott
Sproat
Tidwell

If I were playing it safe, if not
Sproat
Scott
Tidwell
Age  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:30 am : link
isn't particularly relevant to me when it comes to players without knowing "why" they are that age. If it's because they were in the minors for X long that's one thing. Christian Scott made 9 career starts coming into 2023. He missed 2020 (the COVID year) and partially due to injury but also due to being older when he was drafted had thrown 58 innings as a pro before age 24.

He and Tidwell have thrown nearly identical # of minor league innings, Tidwell probably sees Queens this year but that's not a lock, first 2 starts in AAA (are just that) but wouldn't suggest he's very close.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 10:30 am : link
are high on DSL arm Leyvi Rodriguez.
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Named Later : 6/3/2024 10:38 am : link
Speaking strictly for myself, I would rank 'em as follows:


1 -- Scott because he's got a few innings of Big League experience. He's started a few games, the numbers don't look all that good....but he's hanging in there. Good size at 6' 4'' and 215.

2 -- Brandon Sproat. He's putting up good innings at AA. He's thrown 51 innings with a 1.23 ERA and he's carrying 0.94 WHIP. Another big kid at 6' 3" 215.

3 -- Blade Tidwell is doing it at the AAA level. He got jobbed out of a Win in his last start when the BP blew the lead. He's got a 1.54 ERA but he walks too many and this is the ABS League. Another big kid. And his cool first name is worth a few style points.

I've only followed the AAA and AA teams, the lower levels are too far away for me. But to have 3 big guns in the high minors is pretty dam good.
Yovanny  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 11:28 am : link
Rodriguez first career ab (video) pops out
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Adderley's  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 11:44 am : link
first professional AB, a HR
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AJ Ewing  
GF1080 : 6/3/2024 1:06 pm : link
Promoted to St Lucie.
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DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 1:09 pm : link
Well earned promotion for A.J. Ewing. He was 6th in the FCL in OPS, 15th in wRC+, 5th in BB% and tied for the league lead in HR's with 5 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 1:12 pm : link
Justin Ramirez with his second walk of the game. He had a solid 2023 season (103 wRC+) but @mets opted to have him repeat the DSL. I could see him putting up a huge slash line this season. I know @bkfan09 is a big believer of his #Mets
RE: Yovanny  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16529820 DanMetroMan said:
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Rodriguez first career ab (video) pops out Link - ( New Window )


Removed due to injury, unbelievable lol
RE: RE: Yovanny  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16529948 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16529820 DanMetroMan said:


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Rodriguez first career ab (video) pops out Link - ( New Window )



Removed due to injury, unbelievable lol


Fouled a ball of his leg
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DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 2:24 pm : link
DSL Mets🔵win! 2-0. Adderley 1-3, HR, Mella 1-2, BB, Garcia 1-2, BB, Rodriguez 0-3, 2 k's (left the game due to injury), Ramirez 0-1, 2 BB,Crespo 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's, Cadiz 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's, Mijares 2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's #Mets
Wilmer  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 3:39 pm : link
Lugo (he along with Hurtado the top 2023 arms they signed) to debut on Thursday.
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DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 3:58 pm : link
Pete Alonso is more Mercedes-Benz than Rolls-Royce these days, as I’m pretty convinced his best days are already behind him at age 29. He has a 121 wRC+ since the beginning of last season, down from 137 he posted over his first four years. A righty first base-only is a risky proposition in free agency, and his lack of positional flexibility will dampen his trade value as well. He’s undoubtedly an impact bat who lengthens any lineup, and despite his dip in production, he’s still one of the game’s great home run hitters. The thing is, he’s no longer in that upper echelon of dangerous, all-around hitters.

For that reason, along with the fact that he’s on an expiring contract, the Mets shouldn’t expect a package of multiple top prospects for him. I think he’ll get a return closer to the one the Orioles got for Trey Mancini two deadlines ago. The Mets could, of course, make a trade more enticing by paying down some of Alonso’s salary. As it stands, whichever team acquires him will have to pay about $6.8 million for the remainder of the season.
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DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 4:52 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Francisco Alvarez (recovery from thumb surgery) will not join the Mets in London. They're hopeful he can return from the IL on their ensuing homestand that begins June 11.
BA  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 5:04 pm : link
Yovanny Rodriguez, C, Mets

There are several promising Venezuelan catchers to watch this year in the DSL—see our story on potential breakout prospects for others—but right now the top catching prospect in the league is Rodriguez, who got $2.85 million. There are two-way skills here with Rodriguez, an advanced catch-and-throw guy for his age with a plus arm, a quick release and soft hands as a receiver. At the plate, Rodriguez has shown a mix of plate discipline and power that’s advanced for his age.
RE: Wilmer  
DanMetroMan : 6/3/2024 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16530021 DanMetroMan said:
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Lugo (he along with Hurtado the top 2023 arms they signed) to debut on Thursday.


Video of Lugo
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Eric on Li : 6/3/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16530040 DanMetroMan said:
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Pete Alonso is more Mercedes-Benz than Rolls-Royce these days, as I’m pretty convinced his best days are already behind him at age 29. He has a 121 wRC+ since the beginning of last season, down from 137 he posted over his first four years. A righty first base-only is a risky proposition in free agency, and his lack of positional flexibility will dampen his trade value as well. He’s undoubtedly an impact bat who lengthens any lineup, and despite his dip in production, he’s still one of the game’s great home run hitters. The thing is, he’s no longer in that upper echelon of dangerous, all-around hitters.

For that reason, along with the fact that he’s on an expiring contract, the Mets shouldn’t expect a package of multiple top prospects for him. I think he’ll get a return closer to the one the Orioles got for Trey Mancini two deadlines ago. The Mets could, of course, make a trade more enticing by paying down some of Alonso’s salary. As it stands, whichever team acquires him will have to pay about $6.8 million for the remainder of the season. Link - ( New Window )


this is why i think the odds of a trade are low. 3 recent met picks right in the range of the 4th rd QO comp pick were i think tong, ewing, and scott. low isn't impossible and maybe someone puts a really good package on the table that's meaningfully better than rolling the dice on the QO, but id say it's probably unlikely.

unless they just want to move on and have no interest in bringing him back at all, i think the move is to take a run at alonso for an extension during the ASB. id offer something like the 3x80m gtd bellinger got, and maybe dress it up with some easy to reach vesting years.
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DanMetroMan : 6/4/2024 7:39 am : link
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@SyracuseMets
TBD
@RumblePoniesBB
Nolan McLean
@BKCyclones
Dakota Hawkins
@stluciemets
Ernesto Mercedes
@FCLMets
TBD
DSL Mets Blue TBD
DSL Mets Orange TBD #Mets
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