Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Unrestricted free agents: Alexander Wennberg, Jack Roslovic, Erik Gustafsson, Chad Ruhwedel, Blake Wheeler
None of these guys are worth bringing back. Maybe Ruhwedel on the cheap for the third pair, but it's not like we saw much of him this year.
Restricted free agents: Kaapo Kakko, Ryan Lindgren, Braden Schneider
Kakko is the biggest decision. What will he ask? Regardless, I know there are fans of him here and if you remove his draft status from the equation, you'd find a solid defensive forward. But I think he would be much better served on another team. I think the Rangers will trade him.
And with Lindgren, he's a warrior. I mean a true warrior in the mold of Dan Girardi. Incredible toughness. The problem is he's always hurt, he has slow footspeed and he contributes nothing on offense. I have a feeling he's gonna ask for more than he's worth and Drury shouldn't go overboard.
Schneider is a must re-sign. Still a young player and still room for improvement.
Ironically, the #1 guy on my FA wishlist is Brady Skjei. I think he'd be an excellent replacement for Lindgren. Great skater, can put up numbers offensively and can eat up top-4 minutes.
I think when the dust settles, you won't see the corp broken up. I think you'll see Mika, Kreider, Panarin, and Trouba back. They have NMC and they'll most likely use 'em. IDK what the numbers would look like, but I would STRONGLY investigate buying out Jacob Trouba.
Same core. Same results: disappointment in May/June. Igor is FA after next season?
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
I’m pretty sure Laf-Trochek-Panarin was the highest scoring line at 5 on 5 in the NHL this season. No argument about them being too dependent on special teams, but attempts to hang this on Panarin are ridiculous.
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Exactly. Yet you want to run it back. Insanity, defined. This core will never win.
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Exactly. Yet you want to run it back. Insanity, defined. This core will never win.
Yeah, I want to “run it back” (sports message board cliche du jour) by expressing desire for Othmann and Perrault to arrive soon.
I’m simply defending one player who doesn’t deserve the shit he’s getting.
We’ve been on this board together for decades. I always respect your opinions, but I disagree on Panarin.
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
He SUCKED. Did you WATCH the GAMES? He was shit in this series. As was Mika, Krieder, and Fox (hurt, I know). Tou expect stars to ELEVATE their games when the games mean more. He did the exact opposite
So is game 6 ECF the closest NYC gets to a championship in 2024?
Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
He SUCKED. Did you WATCH the GAMES? He was shit in this series. As was Mika, Krieder, and Fox (hurt, I know). Tou expect stars to ELEVATE their games when the games mean more. He did the exact opposite
I suppose Messier is wrong then too. He called out Panarin explicitly.
RE: So is game 6 ECF the closest NYC gets to a championship in 2024?
I just read that Mika, Panarin, Kreider, Trochek, Goodrow and Trouba all have No Move Clauses in their contracts. They may have no choice but to just run it back again next season bc I have no clue how they’ll bring in any free agents with so much money tied into those six players.
Just what it sounds like. They cannot move those players without their consent.
This is not a true statement. Look at cap friendly for their trade NMC status next year. Mika, Panarin and Trochek have NMC contracts next year. Krieder, Goodrow and Trouba have modified no trade contracts. They both must submit a 15 team no trade list by July 1. So those three players could be traded to other teams.
to the Panthers, like Pjacs said. One of the best overall teams in recent memory. Super bummed but, yeah that Rangers PTSD is in full effect. As always, Go Rangers
I am not disappointed that they lost. Florida is a good team and it was not crazy to think they would win.
What I am disappointed is how they lost. Florida played well, but the Rangers played poorly. They lacked energy and they were sloppy virtually the entire series. They did not remotely resemble the team that won the President's Trophy. If it wasn't for Igor, this series wouldn't have even been close.
Florida plays a very disciplined and conservative D. But, in 6 games the Rangers never came up with an answer. On the PP they passed the puck around forever when they needed shots. IT was a very frustrating series to watch.
They did not remotely resemble the team that won the President's Trophy. [/quote]
Said every President’s Trophy for the last eleven years. [/quote]Not true. It has nothing to do with losing the series. It was the fact that they looked like a mediocre team doing it.
They did not remotely resemble the team that won the President's Trophy.
Said every President’s Trophy for the last eleven years. [/quote]Not true. It has nothing to do with losing the series. It was the fact that they looked like a mediocre team doing it. [/quote]
This is true. I never once thought watching them they looked like a team that'd win the cup. I honestly thought they'd Dallas Cowboy and lose on the first round.
have a dominant #1 center. We have the opposite.
Some teams are built for the SC playoffs (Florida) and some for the useless
Regular season (NYR). I hope Drury understands this, so far he hasn’t.
with a lousy ending. We all wish the Giants would have seasons like this instead of being at the bottom of the barrel.
Whether Florida forced the Rangers to play like they did or it was the Rangers' counter move, it didn't work. The Rangers rarely carried the puck out of their zone. They had no established break out. They would throw it out to center (or to a Panther expecting it at the blue line) and hope another Ranger picks it up. On the rush they dumped it in, cycled around the boards and sent shots from the blue line that Bobrovsky had no problem with.
Too many of the Rangers' shots were from long range and too many of the Panthers' shots were from in close. I'm not a fan of all the stats that TV throws at you, but slot shots told the whole story. If it wasn't for Igor the scores would have been very different.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the off season. The core will stay. They aren't getting rid of Mika, Kreider, Panarin or Fox.
have a dominant #1 center. We have the opposite.
Some teams are built for the SC playoffs (Florida) and some for the useless
Regular season (NYR). I hope Drury understands this, so far he hasn’t.
Yes. I agree. The Rangers are built to win the President's Trophy, the Panthers are built to win the Stanley Cup.
Tough ending. Panthers played better. NYR didn’t deserve to win the series, but there was a lot to be encouraged about. Best players have to play at their best in the biggest games. Unfortunately, they didn’t (Igor excepted).
Drury and coaching staff need to figure out what is missing to get the SC.
Roster as presently comprised with probably stay mostly intact.
What needs to be added to get the Cup?
Drury and coaching staff need to figure out what is missing to get the SC.
Roster as presently comprised with probably stay mostly intact.
What needs to be added to get the Cup?
A #1 C who isn't the streakiest player on the team and so mentally weak he can't be counted on in big spots.
Fun season, boys…our power play going stale, Fox being dinged, Zibby and Krieder MIA after the Carolina series. Just too much to over come against that squad, even with Igor’s heroics
Hopefully, Othmann can be a better offensive version of Cuylle. They need more toughness and Cuylle was just about the only guy willing to stick his nose in it.
I’ve just about had it with Trouba. How can such an experienced player make so many mental errors? I doubt there’s any interest by other teams with his contract and I doubt even more strongly that he’d waive his NMC. Bread just is what he is at this point… a great regular season player not built for postseason play. The only hope is to lessen the team’s dependence on him come postseason.
Fun season, boys…our power play going stale, Fox being dinged, Zibby and Krieder MIA after the Carolina series. Just too much to over come against that squad, even with Igor’s heroics
They aren’t going to shut down McDavid and Draisaitl the way they could the Rangers. I think Edmonton has a good chance despite subpar goaltending.
Greg. Agreed. I think that series will go the same way the 2023 Finals went with Vegas if they play Edmonton. Don't really care about it either way. I don't watch much hockey games with other teams anyway.
That's just it for me. I don't think Florida is a better team. They just played better by a wide margin. The Rangers best players didn't show up this series.
This playoffs, I don't think it's fair to criticize Panarin for the entire post season. He was good in the first two rounds; a far cry from the prior 2 years. But, in the ECF, he was non existent. He wasn't even getting shots, which was reminiscent of the last 2 years.
It wasn't just him. The whole team, but even worse for the top 2 lines, were just too passive. They had no answer for Florida's very conservative D. It's not like it was the first time they've face it. And, in 6 games they couldn't figure it out? It's not like Florida really changed things up much. The Rangers just played a terrible series, even in the games they won. As you go deeper, you can't rely solely on being opportunistic. You have to be able to generate offense on your own on 5v5. They just couldn't. They were content to pass the puck around until they turned it over.
It also didn't help that some of their better players came up very small in big moments. Zibanejad turned it over badly at the end of Game 5, forcing Wheeler to commit the penalty. Trouba was way out of position on the subsequent PP to allow the goal. Then Trouba turned the puck over in the neutral zone to set up the first goal in Game 6. Fox seemingly played hurt the entire series, which hampered them. Zib and Panarin went into shells for much of the series. Kreider as well.
I am also sick of the false Rempe fascination. Guy plays 4-6 minutes a game. He isn't impacting the game overall, outside of fluke goal. He takes stupid penalties and gets whistled for some BS. He isn't bad and can be a factor in the future. But, he wasn't a big part of their success in the regular season, so acting like he would be a savior in the post season was stupid.
If the refs called one of the penalties in the final minute of Game 4 that they should have called, maybe we have a game seven. Or of Zibanejad could score and not hit the cross bar.
This series was close. People need to stop analyzing the series like Igor isn't part of the team.
Panthers also had a pretty obvious high stick on the play that led to goal one last night when they knocked the puck down.
I can't see who could argue that. They did everything they needed to do and looked great doing it. Whereas the Rangers were just stymied - maybe 40 minutes of great hockey over 6 games.
Part of what makes hockey great is the playoffs are so grueling the better team wins. Flukes usually get washed out.
This playoffs, I don't think it's fair to criticize Panarin for the entire post season. He was good in the first two rounds; a far cry from the prior 2 years. But, in the ECF, he was non existent. He wasn't even getting shots, which was reminiscent of the last 2 years.
It wasn't just him. The whole team, but even worse for the top 2 lines, were just too passive. They had no answer for Florida's very conservative D. It's not like it was the first time they've face it. And, in 6 games they couldn't figure it out? It's not like Florida really changed things up much. The Rangers just played a terrible series, even in the games they won. As you go deeper, you can't rely solely on being opportunistic. You have to be able to generate offense on your own on 5v5. They just couldn't. They were content to pass the puck around until they turned it over.
It also didn't help that some of their better players came up very small in big moments. Zibanejad turned it over badly at the end of Game 5, forcing Wheeler to commit the penalty. Trouba was way out of position on the subsequent PP to allow the goal. Then Trouba turned the puck over in the neutral zone to set up the first goal in Game 6. Fox seemingly played hurt the entire series, which hampered them. Zib and Panarin went into shells for much of the series. Kreider as well.
I am also sick of the false Rempe fascination. Guy plays 4-6 minutes a game. He isn't impacting the game overall, outside of fluke goal. He takes stupid penalties and gets whistled for some BS. He isn't bad and can be a factor in the future. But, he wasn't a big part of their success in the regular season, so acting like he would be a savior in the post season was stupid.
I wasn't criticizing him for the whole playoffs. I specifically said this series.
If the refs called one of the penalties in the final minute of Game 4 that they should have called, maybe we have a game seven. Or of Zibanejad could score and not hit the cross bar.
This series was close. People need to stop analyzing the series like Igor isn't part of the team.
Panthers also had a pretty obvious high stick on the play that led to goal one last night when they knocked the puck down.
Oh stop. How about if they call a blatant slash on tkachuk breakaway? He has a pen shot. Maybe he scores
If they called either of the ones at the end of game 4, Panthers don't get the power play that led to the GWG. If they whistle the high stick before the first goal last night, the play turns out differently.
The Rangers didn't do their job, but neither did the refs.
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Lost another big game.
Who bets money ON the Rangers, lol?
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
And what do you do about Miller? I've liked the guy a lot but he's had lots of turnovers in the playoffs.
None of these guys are worth bringing back. Maybe Ruhwedel on the cheap for the third pair, but it's not like we saw much of him this year.
Restricted free agents: Kaapo Kakko, Ryan Lindgren, Braden Schneider
Kakko is the biggest decision. What will he ask? Regardless, I know there are fans of him here and if you remove his draft status from the equation, you'd find a solid defensive forward. But I think he would be much better served on another team. I think the Rangers will trade him.
And with Lindgren, he's a warrior. I mean a true warrior in the mold of Dan Girardi. Incredible toughness. The problem is he's always hurt, he has slow footspeed and he contributes nothing on offense. I have a feeling he's gonna ask for more than he's worth and Drury shouldn't go overboard.
Schneider is a must re-sign. Still a young player and still room for improvement.
Ironically, the #1 guy on my FA wishlist is Brady Skjei. I think he'd be an excellent replacement for Lindgren. Great skater, can put up numbers offensively and can eat up top-4 minutes.
I think when the dust settles, you won't see the corp broken up. I think you'll see Mika, Kreider, Panarin, and Trouba back. They have NMC and they'll most likely use 'em. IDK what the numbers would look like, but I would STRONGLY investigate buying out Jacob Trouba.
Same core. Same results: disappointment in May/June. Igor is FA after next season?
That makes FIVE seasons in a row now.
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
I’m pretty sure Laf-Trochek-Panarin was the highest scoring line at 5 on 5 in the NHL this season. No argument about them being too dependent on special teams, but attempts to hang this on Panarin are ridiculous.
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Exactly. Yet you want to run it back. Insanity, defined. This core will never win.
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
The point is that you are whistling in the wind if you assume as management that a PP that carried the team disproportionately during the regular season is even remotely likely to do so through four rounds of playoffs
Exactly. Yet you want to run it back. Insanity, defined. This core will never win.
Yeah, I want to “run it back” (sports message board cliche du jour) by expressing desire for Othmann and Perrault to arrive soon.
I’m simply defending one player who doesn’t deserve the shit he’s getting.
We’ve been on this board together for decades. I always respect your opinions, but I disagree on Panarin.
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
He SUCKED. Did you WATCH the GAMES? He was shit in this series. As was Mika, Krieder, and Fox (hurt, I know). Tou expect stars to ELEVATE their games when the games mean more. He did the exact opposite
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Some of you are just a freaking joke. They got outplayed. It's no deeper than that. Not a matter of heart, or disgrace... for those that want to get rid pf Panarin and Mika... you're F(cki^g idiots.
Yup. The whining about Panarin is particularly absurd. He had 4 GWGs in these playoffs and his line was the best in this series and all season. He’s arguably the best free agent signing in Rangers history.
Disappointing end to a good season. I hope Othmann and Perrault arrive on the scene soon. Let’s Go Rangers!
Servo...Bread averaged 1.5 points per game in the regular season. And more than 1 goal per two games. What were his averages in the playoffs. I'll wait right here.
0.938 PPG. Five goals, four game winners. What’s your point? You expect the same PPG against tougher competition in the playoffs? His line was the most productive. One site had him as the best xGF on the team through the playoffs.
What's YOUR point...he can only score against the dregs in the regular season?
15 points in 16 playoff games, but he can only score against the dregs of the league?
He SUCKED. Did you WATCH the GAMES? He was shit in this series. As was Mika, Krieder, and Fox (hurt, I know). Tou expect stars to ELEVATE their games when the games mean more. He did the exact opposite
I suppose Messier is wrong then too. He called out Panarin explicitly.
Well, the Rangers were in the Stanley Cup Finals in 2014, but yeah, New York sports has sucked.
This sucks.
Feel better sticking up for a franchise that hasn't done shit in 30 years? Good for you.
I watch every game and I'll respond how ever I want to. Thanks.
Zibanejad is my biggest scapegoat. Trouba too. What was he doing on that first goal?
This sucks.
What sucks is having to look at another chart lol
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I just read that Mika, Panarin, Kreider, Trochek, Goodrow and Trouba all have No Move Clauses in their contracts. They may have no choice but to just run it back again next season bc I have no clue how they’ll bring in any free agents with so much money tied into those six players.
Just what it sounds like. They cannot move those players without their consent.
This is not a true statement. Look at cap friendly for their trade NMC status next year. Mika, Panarin and Trochek have NMC contracts next year. Krieder, Goodrow and Trouba have modified no trade contracts. They both must submit a 15 team no trade list by July 1. So those three players could be traded to other teams.
I would keep Goodrow. The others could be traded.
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What I am disappointed is how they lost. Florida played well, but the Rangers played poorly. They lacked energy and they were sloppy virtually the entire series. They did not remotely resemble the team that won the President's Trophy. If it wasn't for Igor, this series wouldn't have even been close.
Florida plays a very disciplined and conservative D. But, in 6 games the Rangers never came up with an answer. On the PP they passed the puck around forever when they needed shots. IT was a very frustrating series to watch.
Said every President’s Trophy for the last eleven years.
Said every President’s Trophy for the last eleven years. [/quote]Not true. It has nothing to do with losing the series. It was the fact that they looked like a mediocre team doing it.
Several big names came up small...curious to see what happens.
Looks like the Ranger will be in contention for awhile.....this coach was a great addition.
Seems like the same playoff flaws repeat itself and must be solved.
Now the NHL playoffs goes from a national interest to regional market interest......big dollars were lost last night!!!!
I have more respect for Jed Ortmeyer than I do him, at the moment.
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Said every President’s Trophy for the last eleven years. [/quote]Not true. It has nothing to do with losing the series. It was the fact that they looked like a mediocre team doing it. [/quote]
This is true. I never once thought watching them they looked like a team that'd win the cup. I honestly thought they'd Dallas Cowboy and lose on the first round.
Some teams are built for the SC playoffs (Florida) and some for the useless
Regular season (NYR). I hope Drury understands this, so far he hasn’t.
Whether Florida forced the Rangers to play like they did or it was the Rangers' counter move, it didn't work. The Rangers rarely carried the puck out of their zone. They had no established break out. They would throw it out to center (or to a Panther expecting it at the blue line) and hope another Ranger picks it up. On the rush they dumped it in, cycled around the boards and sent shots from the blue line that Bobrovsky had no problem with.
Too many of the Rangers' shots were from long range and too many of the Panthers' shots were from in close. I'm not a fan of all the stats that TV throws at you, but slot shots told the whole story. If it wasn't for Igor the scores would have been very different.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the off season. The core will stay. They aren't getting rid of Mika, Kreider, Panarin or Fox.
But don't be too hard on this Rangers team. The Giants could only wish they played "as badly" as the Blue Shirts.
Some teams are built for the SC playoffs (Florida) and some for the useless
Regular season (NYR). I hope Drury understands this, so far he hasn’t.
Yes. I agree. The Rangers are built to win the President's Trophy, the Panthers are built to win the Stanley Cup.
Drury has some work to do.
Roster as presently comprised with probably stay mostly intact.
What needs to be added to get the Cup?
Roster as presently comprised with probably stay mostly intact.
What needs to be added to get the Cup?
That's it. That's what's missing.
Fun season, boys…our power play going stale, Fox being dinged, Zibby and Krieder MIA after the Carolina series. Just too much to over come against that squad, even with Igor’s heroics
It was a good season tho
Hopefully, Othmann can be a better offensive version of Cuylle. They need more toughness and Cuylle was just about the only guy willing to stick his nose in it.
I’ve just about had it with Trouba. How can such an experienced player make so many mental errors? I doubt there’s any interest by other teams with his contract and I doubt even more strongly that he’d waive his NMC. Bread just is what he is at this point… a great regular season player not built for postseason play. The only hope is to lessen the team’s dependence on him come postseason.
Gus is gone. Free Zac Jones.
But don't be too hard on this Rangers team. The Giants could only wish they played "as badly" as the Blue Shirts.
The Tommy Devito story for a month was more memorable than the Rangers bombing out in the ECF again for the 97th time.
Fun season, boys…our power play going stale, Fox being dinged, Zibby and Krieder MIA after the Carolina series. Just too much to over come against that squad, even with Igor’s heroics
They aren’t going to shut down McDavid and Draisaitl the way they could the Rangers. I think Edmonton has a good chance despite subpar goaltending.
It wasn't just him. The whole team, but even worse for the top 2 lines, were just too passive. They had no answer for Florida's very conservative D. It's not like it was the first time they've face it. And, in 6 games they couldn't figure it out? It's not like Florida really changed things up much. The Rangers just played a terrible series, even in the games they won. As you go deeper, you can't rely solely on being opportunistic. You have to be able to generate offense on your own on 5v5. They just couldn't. They were content to pass the puck around until they turned it over.
It also didn't help that some of their better players came up very small in big moments. Zibanejad turned it over badly at the end of Game 5, forcing Wheeler to commit the penalty. Trouba was way out of position on the subsequent PP to allow the goal. Then Trouba turned the puck over in the neutral zone to set up the first goal in Game 6. Fox seemingly played hurt the entire series, which hampered them. Zib and Panarin went into shells for much of the series. Kreider as well.
I am also sick of the false Rempe fascination. Guy plays 4-6 minutes a game. He isn't impacting the game overall, outside of fluke goal. He takes stupid penalties and gets whistled for some BS. He isn't bad and can be a factor in the future. But, he wasn't a big part of their success in the regular season, so acting like he would be a savior in the post season was stupid.
This series was close. People need to stop analyzing the series like Igor isn't part of the team.
Panthers also had a pretty obvious high stick on the play that led to goal one last night when they knocked the puck down.
Part of what makes hockey great is the playoffs are so grueling the better team wins. Flukes usually get washed out.
It wasn't just him. The whole team, but even worse for the top 2 lines, were just too passive. They had no answer for Florida's very conservative D. It's not like it was the first time they've face it. And, in 6 games they couldn't figure it out? It's not like Florida really changed things up much. The Rangers just played a terrible series, even in the games they won. As you go deeper, you can't rely solely on being opportunistic. You have to be able to generate offense on your own on 5v5. They just couldn't. They were content to pass the puck around until they turned it over.
It also didn't help that some of their better players came up very small in big moments. Zibanejad turned it over badly at the end of Game 5, forcing Wheeler to commit the penalty. Trouba was way out of position on the subsequent PP to allow the goal. Then Trouba turned the puck over in the neutral zone to set up the first goal in Game 6. Fox seemingly played hurt the entire series, which hampered them. Zib and Panarin went into shells for much of the series. Kreider as well.
I am also sick of the false Rempe fascination. Guy plays 4-6 minutes a game. He isn't impacting the game overall, outside of fluke goal. He takes stupid penalties and gets whistled for some BS. He isn't bad and can be a factor in the future. But, he wasn't a big part of their success in the regular season, so acting like he would be a savior in the post season was stupid.
I wasn't criticizing him for the whole playoffs. I specifically said this series.
This series was close. People need to stop analyzing the series like Igor isn't part of the team.
Panthers also had a pretty obvious high stick on the play that led to goal one last night when they knocked the puck down.
Oh stop. How about if they call a blatant slash on tkachuk breakaway? He has a pen shot. Maybe he scores
Stop blaming refs
The Rangers didn't do their job, but neither did the refs.