Whose a Giant you wished had ‘only been a Giant’?

then, St. Louis Cardinals, I thought that he was the second coming of Jim Brown. When he got around to playing for us, as good as he was, he was only a glimpse of his former self.

Was really fucking weird.

I totally forgot Tuck played for the Raiders.

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In comment 16528837 Blue Dog said:

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Him leaving started the strange cycle of taking quality 2nd round DTs and then letting them walk taking Jonathan Hankins and Dalvin Tomlinson. He was a quality player for 8 more years. I was glad he got a ring with the Rams.

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Joseph did not start the cycle. The pattern of moving on from good DTs goes back to the 1960s.

I believe Andy played for the LA Rams before coming over to the Giants and Brad Van Pelt may have played for the Vikings after being with the Giants

The next is Jesse Armstead and then Brandon Jacobs.

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In comment 16528839 Bill in UT said: Quote: the grammar police, but it's "who's", just in case you have to correspond with superiors. Bill You crack me up. You are the BBI version of Ron Swanson and I mean that as compliment. You love cooking food and teaching people grammar.

I don't do the grammar thing very often. It just bugs me when it's in the OP. As a thread starter I know you can't post until you've previewed the OP. So there's really no need for careless mistakes unless you don't give a shit. In that case I don't mind pointing it out.

Imagine if we had kept them both?

Hands down. Time when defense was built to win games, OT that made offense score the necessary points and keep Simms upright as much as he could.

I dont think I need to explain why..

But I gotta go with YA Tittle

He was one of my favorites

In comment 16528839 Bill in UT said:

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the grammar police, but it's "who's", just in case you have to correspond with superiors.

My bad.

I didn't think he ever lived up to his hype. Addition by subtraction.

Glad Simms and Eli both retired Giants.

Linval being over rated is a clown comment. Much better player than Hankins. Giants let Griffin go but they used a 6th round pick to replace him in Cofield.

Linval (2nd/2010), Austin (2nd/2011), Hankins (2013/2nd) and Bromley (2014/3rd). That is a lot of assets to then give a big contract to Snacks for one outstanding season. How about some interior OL or DE's with those picks? Instead the great destruction of the LoS.

Reese did a lot of damage to the organization over time.

I was surprised that he was the first name to come to mind!

They shouldn’t have let him go

Sean Landetta and Matt Stover

We spent more than a decade searching for a QB.

Bill Belicheck....I'm pretty sure we'd have a couple more trophies in the case if he had succeeded Parcells

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I dont think I need to explain why..

Don't forget Lombardi...and Belichick.

In comment 16528917 Marty in Albany said:

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then, St. Louis Cardinals, I thought that he was the second coming of Jim Brown. When he got around to playing for us, as good as he was, he was only a glimpse of his former self.

This is the first name that came to me too ... I still see his ‘windup and delivery’ on Kelso in the SB as if it happened yesterday. He was a true beast. Also in the same vein, Everton Walls and Dave Duerson ... both came to the Giants late in their careers but helped solidify the DB.

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In comment 16529118 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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Glad Simms and Eli both retired Giants. Linval being over rated is a clown comment. Much better player than Hankins. Giants let Griffin go but they used a 6th round pick to replace him in Cofield. Linval (2nd/2010), Austin (2nd/2011), Hankins (2013/2nd) and Bromley (2014/3rd). That is a lot of assets to then give a big contract to Snacks for one outstanding season. How about some interior OL or DE's with those picks? Instead the great destruction of the LoS. Reese did a lot of damage to the organization over time.

Remember they handed out a 6-yr contract to Chris Canty. This was in 2009, and with Robbins being let go (age), Jay Alford (3rd round pick) never materializing, and then letting Cofield go after 2010, back to the draft to find the piece inside by Canty. Linval is picked, and I get it, but the Marvin Austin pick never made sense to me. To make matters worse, he sucked.

...I am sure that even he felt that wearing another jersey was an abomination.

With Huff & from there add Banks … Bavaro & Armstead!

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In comment 16528849 widmerseyebrow said: Quote: He’s replaced Cornelius Griffin Yea, agreed. We've seemingly had a train of good defensive tackles via draft, free agency, and trade. It hasn't stopped our suckitude so it's kind of pointless to pine for what could have been had Linval stayed. Especially considering how well Hankins did in place of him the next year. The one thing the Giants have done to your point is develop good IDLs.

Disagree. Hankins had a nice year sack-wise in 2014 (the year after Joseph left) but the Giants were garbage against the run. 3rd worst in the league in total rushing yards. Worst in the league in yards per attempt (4.9). They basically made every running back look like Jim Brown.

The year before with Joseph they were #4 in the league in yards per attempt. And Hankins was a meh player for the Giants except for that 7-sack season. Wasn't worth a 2nd contract, so rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile Joseph was a rock for Minny for the next 6 years.

Basically 2014 was the start of a string of really shitty defenses (some of the worst the Giants have ever fielded), except for 2016.

Was it all because of Joseph getting resigned? Of course not. But as the previous poster said, it was emblematic of Reese letting good players go and using Day 2 picks on bums like Jay Bromley and Owamagbe Odighizuwa.

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I didn't think he ever lived up to his hype. Addition by subtraction.

By the time he left, yes. But you can't discredit his rookie season or the impact he had on a stale offense. He was nothing short of a revelation in 2002.

To let him go to the hated Redskins was blasphemy.

When you think of it, so many of the greatest Giant players were here for their entire careers. LT, Simms, Eli, Banks, Tuck and Bavaro are the 2, other than Huff, who jump out to me. Ron Johnson, maybe, he played on some awful Giant teams, but was a heck of a RB.

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To let him go to the hated Redskins was blasphemy. When you think of it, so many of the greatest Giant players were here for their entire careers. LT, Simms, Eli, Banks, Tuck and Bavaro are the 2, other than Huff, who jump out to me. Ron Johnson, maybe, he played on some awful Giant teams, but was a heck of a RB.

My mistake on Ron Johnson, I thought he finished his career in DC, and I had no recollection that he was in Cleveland his rookie year.

And Vince Lombardi in the non-player category.

A few of the many others Bavaro, McCaffery, Cam Wake, Sam Huff, Rosey Grier, Tom Landry, Tuna, Little Bill & Ernie Adams.

Although he was with other teams before, obviously

hate that he went to the Colts. He was so appreciative when he won the BBI Giant of the Year award too.

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Although he was with other teams before, obviously

Unless they feel good about Sam Howell, Seattle is another team searching for their next QB.

so I'll add Rosey Grier.

Tuck and Osi are a distance behind them

and McCraffrey thrived after leaving the Giants. Pepper Johnson did okay so he is close.

Kudos to the Parcells call out as that probably bothered me the most. Belichick too of course.

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His name is on the fucking championship trophy, you think maybe you could commit the spelling to memory?

Jason Sehorn

Fred Dryer

Had the maturity of a 14 year old but, he was a beast. Still remember that Hall of Fame game.

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In comment 16528916 BrianC said:

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Still not over it. Coaching the Jets was fine, but the Cowboys?

+++++1 !!!

Remember the commercial with Lawrence Taylor ... the premise was he wakes up from a nightmare(?) .....


"and Bill Parcells is coaching the Cowboys"???

Jeremy Shockey

A true Giants legend who did nothing wrong

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it broke my heart seeing him in a 9ers uniform

But nothing was worse than Bavaro in an Eagles uniform.

Speaking of Toomer, I always thought we could've squeaked out one more season with him. Ah, I don't know he was just always a personal favorite of mine.

But this guy was a Giant. Gary Zimmerman.