Waller expected to retire

Maybe his body is broken down and he is a shell of the man who dominated a few years ago. Maybe he is as healthy as he's been since his dominant days. If it's the latter, he would be a significant asset to our passing game (which is why Schoen made the gambe in the first place (if it wasn't a gamble, he would've cost a helluva lot more than late 3rd and 6th round picks, and as we know, gambles don't always pay off; but it doesn't mean you stop gambling because everything is a gamble when it comes to personnel)).

We don't know the snap shot details of his health, but we know he's missed big chunks of three out of the four last seasons. And we know from his own mouth he had a nerve issue in his hamstring last year. We also know the Giants made significant investments to replace him.

Ask yourself this question: would you sign Darren Waller today to a 1/10M+ contract?

And this question: if Darren Waller was an UFA would he command a 1/10M+ contract on the open market?

He relapsed.

In comment 16530270 christian said:

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Ask yourself this question: would you sign Darren Waller today to a 1/10M+ contract? And this question: if Darren Waller was an UFA would he command a 1/10M+ contract on the open market?

Then why hasn't he already been released? Is it out of fear of an injury settlement being forced upon them?

In comment 16530273 Milton said:

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Ask yourself this question: would you sign Darren Waller today to a 1/10M+ contract? And this question: if Darren Waller was an UFA would he command a 1/10M+ contract on the open market? Then why hasn't he already been released? Is it out of fear of an injury settlement being forced upon them?

I think the Giants are proceeding cautiously so there is no hint of retaliation for not attending voluntarily activities and because of his health and the possibility of a grievance.

I also think the Giants are being respectful of him as a person going through a tough personal situation and that he's a recovering addict.

In comment 16530272 Woodstock said:

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He relapsed.

What evidence is there to support this claim?

Thought it was an awesome trade. Turns out, not so awesome. Better that he moves along and we recoup that money. Wish him well in retirement but giving up that 3rd rounder looks pretty bad right about now. The value was good on the surface.

In comment 16530280 christian said:

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In comment 16530273 Milton said: Quote: Ask yourself this question: would you sign Darren Waller today to a 1/10M+ contract? And this question: if Darren Waller was an UFA would he command a 1/10M+ contract on the open market? Then why hasn't he already been released? Is it out of fear of an injury settlement being forced upon them? I think the Giants are proceeding cautiously so there is no hint of retaliation for not attending voluntarily activities and because of his health and the possibility of a grievance. I also think the Giants are being respectful of him as a person going through a tough personal situation and that he's a recovering addict.

Don't give the giants too much credit now. They're mostly wary of a grievance. They don't have time for his personal situation.

At a minimum it's good PR to give him the space to make his own decision. And practically they don't want to risk a grievance.

The odds in my view are supremely low Waller is a Giant again. I'd put the chance at close to zero.

In comment 16530456 ryanmkeane said:

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Thought it was an awesome trade. Turns out, not so awesome. Better that he moves along and we recoup that money. Wish him well in retirement but giving up that 3rd rounder looks pretty bad right about now. The value was good on the surface.

yep, that’s about in line with the rest of your prognostication abilities.

In comment 16530872 The Jake said:

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In comment 16530456 ryanmkeane said: Quote: Thought it was an awesome trade. Turns out, not so awesome. Better that he moves along and we recoup that money. Wish him well in retirement but giving up that 3rd rounder looks pretty bad right about now. The value was good on the surface. yep, that’s about in line with the rest of your prognostication abilities.

So I assume you spoke out at the time that you didn’t like the trade with it was made

go on back and look it up if you doubt it. i have better shit to do than quote myself.