We’re trying something a bit different with the threads starting with this series. Instead of a thread per game, we’re going to try a thread per series due to their being less activity on the daily threads—which is totally understandable since the team is in a tailspin and doesn’t look to be going out of it anytime soon. Let’s see how it goes.
It was suggested we try it this way and we agreed upon it yesterday after we voted on it. If it’s not popular, we can always go back to doing it the old way. Please share your opinion about this change after this series is over on this thread. It won’t be much different. Lineups and starting pitcher matchup graphics will still be posted for each game as before, just consolidated into a single thread. Anywho, let’s give it a swing—and unlike the Mets, hopefully it’ll work! 😂
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Mets @ Nats: Game 1 – ⚾Megill (R) vs. Gore (L)⚾ – 6:45 pm ET
Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games today & tomorrow in D.C. against the Nats.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-The games today and tomorrow will both be on SNY.
-The weather forecast for tonight's game at Nationals Park looks decent despite their being a thunderstorm prior to it. Click
HERE to keep updated and see Hourly AccuWeather Reports for there.
-The Mets suffered their 6th loss yesterday when leading after 8 innings since May 1st. As of the end of yesterday afternoon’s game, no other team has more than two. Additionally, the Mets are 24-35 & in 4th place in the N.L. East. They’re 3.5 games behind the 3rd place Nats, who they’re playing for the first time this season tonight in the first game of a three-game set. They’re dangerous when it comes to stealing bases, so that’s something to take note of.
-Click
HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click
HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of
Nido (R), Taylor (R), McNeil (L), & Stewart (L). 
NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am
*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:
NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm
NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
Mets @ Nats | 6:45 pm EDT start - June 3, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)
Mets @ Nats | 6:45 pm EDT start - June 3, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Nats’ feed – MASN (strfish.xyz)
MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Nats – June 3, 2024 - 6:45 pm EDT start
Note: Ron won’t be calling the game tonight.
Enjoy tonight's game 😊
Death by a thousand stolen bases. Professor X could steal abase offa the Mets' catchers.
last year obviously a big difference was marte but he's been good this year. mcneil obviously not close to what he was in 2022 so that's a loss but bader has probably been better than canha and JDM is better than anyone they had hitting 5th in 2022. strange that they havent been able to come anywhere close being as cohesive of a lineup.
he will cool off and the k rate will almost certainly go up at some point, but the power is legit and he has always been a .280+ hitter so i dont think he will be all or nothing. he has never been overly passive either, i think he's a pretty natural hitter for a guy with that kind of power.
i think better version of JDD/Duda is close to a lock at this point. the defense at 3b seems clearly better than JDD ever was. unlike those 2 i think he could end up a more consistent 30/90 type who hits ~.250. with DH/3b/1b flex and a good platoon split against lefties that's a nice piece.
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Love to see it.
he will cool off and the k rate will almost certainly go up at some point, but the power is legit and he has always been a .280+ hitter so i dont think he will be all or nothing. he has never been overly passive either, i think he's a pretty natural hitter for a guy with that kind of power.
i think better version of JDD/Duda is close to a lock at this point. the defense at 3b seems clearly better than JDD ever was. unlike those 2 i think he could end up a more consistent 30/90 type who hits ~.250. with DH/3b/1b flex and a good platoon split against lefties that's a nice piece.
He’s a clear fit for given where this roster will be over next couple seasons. Obviously if the K rate escalates and the D is just not feasible it will be a no brainer if he has to be only a DH and prices out some time or point later.
And of course now Megill serves up a meatball pitch to .150 BA Joey Gallo.
he has looked normal in a good way. on some hard hit balls that would have been web gem types he's been close. he has a strong arm.
as a counter example jdd never looked comfortable whereas so far this year vientos has looked reasonably natural. he's a big guy with athletic limitations but so far he has made all the plays he's supposed to make (he's actually +1 OAA heading into today).
Anyways…Vientos is a stud that some of us saw while the FO did not. Sure, he’ll come back down to earth a bit (or maybe not?) but it’s nice to see him size the moment. And Baty…I refuse to believe that he’s not a quality MLB bat. The kid can hit and they need to help him click in the pros. These are the two players that really excite me going forward.
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Love to see it.
he will cool off and the k rate will almost certainly go up at some point, but the power is legit and he has always been a .280+ hitter so i dont think he will be all or nothing. he has never been overly passive either, i think he's a pretty natural hitter for a guy with that kind of power.
i think better version of JDD/Duda is close to a lock at this point. the defense at 3b seems clearly better than JDD ever was. unlike those 2 i think he could end up a more consistent 30/90 type who hits ~.250. with DH/3b/1b flex and a good platoon split against lefties that's a nice piece.
He’s a clear fit for given where this roster will be over next couple seasons. Obviously if the K rate escalates and the D is just not feasible it will be a no brainer if he has to be only a DH and prices out some time or point later.
And of course now Megill serves up a meatball pitch to .150 BA Joey Gallo.
Or you dump Alonso and play him at 1B
Anyone know why he was out of baseball last year? And only the Mets were interested in giving him another shot?
Breath of fresh air (yea, real small sample size) after watching McNeil hit into a million 4-3's on the second pitch of the AB.
He sucks
7.01 ERA
Ottavino has been horrid.
Hate to say it, but yesterday's game was a big loss....could have been 4-1 in their last five with even a suggestion of some positive juice.
What's up with Diaz? Is he hurt, or Billy Eppler hurt?
They sure miss him, or the 2022 version anyhow.
diekman fine vs tough lefties but otto in high leverage (esp b2b) has been problematic.
I think if he can piece this together, the fastball is strong, he has #3 upside. I'm buying Megill right now as a meaningful part of this future rotation.
As for Vientos, I'm absolutely loving this opportunity for him to get an extended run. I believe this guy is a big time power hitter that's going to generate a lot of production.
Baty has had a lot of leash, I still see potential there but tbh I'm not optimistic he will be a consistent performer, but I hope he figures it out.
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a bright spot in a lousy season. Unfortunately not in the local viewing area, so haven't been able to see him too much on defense. How has he been defensively at 3B? 0 errors obviously a good sign
he has looked normal in a good way. on some hard hit balls that would have been web gem types he's been close. he has a strong arm.
as a counter example jdd never looked comfortable whereas so far this year vientos has looked reasonably natural. he's a big guy with athletic limitations but so far he has made all the plays he's supposed to make (he's actually +1 OAA heading into today).
Thanks! That is encouraging. Whether it is at 3B, 1B, or DH (or a combo), Vientos seems to be cementing himself in the future of the team, which is very nice.
If Alonso is traded (or leaves in FA), certainly lessens the blow there.
If Alonso is traded (or leaves in FA), certainly lessens the blow there.
100%. If Alonso walks, Vientos is your 1b and Mauricio/Baty can compete for 3b. Acuna/Jett eventually phase in at 2b/Cf.
then a ton of $ freed up for Soto and the DH spot freed up for a good/cheaper solution just like they found JDM. problem with that plan is im pessimistic on Soto leaving NYY. just cant see them dropping the ball on that a year after having missed on yamamoto.
so i think it's hard to envision a better overall player than alonso being attainable. which means id start getting comfortable with vientos in a mixed role, and baty some reps in LF to hopefully take the DJ Stewart roster spot in a few weeks.
btw here's an interesting vientos observation, his numbers right now are almost exactly the same as his AAA numbers last year in terms of walk rate/k rate/iso. beyond the exit velo one of the things that has always stood out to me is that year over year he has always made incremental improvements. i still expect regression in the babip and k-rate as pitchers adjust, but as i said above he is obviously an MLB power hitter and more and more im becoming convinced he can at least be an average MLB hitter on top of that.
Looking at free agency, and yeah, pickings are thin for hitting. Agreed it may be best to just re-sign Alonso. Otherwise, most interesting bats besides Soto appear to be O'Neill, JD Martinez, Adames, Bregman, Gleyber, Goldschmidt, Hoskins.
Should have a lot of options. If Alonso is gone, obviously Vientos to 1B. If he stays, Alonso, Vientos, and Baty can hold down 1b/DH/3B (obviously with Alonso not playing 3B and Baty not at 1B), with Alvarez DHing some to rest him (likely bench Baty on those days). Mauricio can compete at 2B with McNeil. McNeil can always play OF
he is still making contact decently and not k'ing, maybe he just needs the elbow surgery or something from that partial tear, but the defensive regression leads me to believe he's just hitting his expiration date faster than expected like marte.
Looking at free agency, and yeah, pickings are thin for hitting. Agreed it may be best to just re-sign Alonso. Otherwise, most interesting bats besides Soto appear to be O'Neill, JD Martinez, Adames, Bregman, Gleyber, Goldschmidt, Hoskins.
Should have a lot of options. If Alonso is gone, obviously Vientos to 1B. If he stays, Alonso, Vientos, and Baty can hold down 1b/DH/3B (obviously with Alonso not playing 3B and Baty not at 1B), with Alvarez DHing some to rest him (likely bench Baty on those days). Mauricio can compete at 2B with McNeil. McNeil can always play OF
I think the Mets have a legit shot at Soto. I don't think there's any way he's not hitting free agency. And then it's Cohen vs Steinbrenner, the latter of whom recently said that the payroll is unsustainable. They have big money long-term on Judge, Stanton, Cole, and Rodon tied up. They certainly have the ability to sign him and I think they'll make a play, but I can see Cohen just offering more. And the rumors have been that Soto wants to play for the Mets.
I still think that the smart money is on the Yankees, but I think it's fairly close...I'd put it at 60-40 odds or so.
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agreed re Soto being a pipedream. Even with the money, I think it's going to be hard to pry a hitter like that away from the Yankees. It would be colossal disaster for the Yankees to lose perhaps the best hitter in the game in his prime crosstown.
Looking at free agency, and yeah, pickings are thin for hitting. Agreed it may be best to just re-sign Alonso. Otherwise, most interesting bats besides Soto appear to be O'Neill, JD Martinez, Adames, Bregman, Gleyber, Goldschmidt, Hoskins.
Should have a lot of options. If Alonso is gone, obviously Vientos to 1B. If he stays, Alonso, Vientos, and Baty can hold down 1b/DH/3B (obviously with Alonso not playing 3B and Baty not at 1B), with Alvarez DHing some to rest him (likely bench Baty on those days). Mauricio can compete at 2B with McNeil. McNeil can always play OF
I think the Mets have a legit shot at Soto. I don't think there's any way he's not hitting free agency. And then it's Cohen vs Steinbrenner, the latter of whom recently said that the payroll is unsustainable. They have big money long-term on Judge, Stanton, Cole, and Rodon tied up. They certainly have the ability to sign him and I think they'll make a play, but I can see Cohen just offering more. And the rumors have been that Soto wants to play for the Mets.
I still think that the smart money is on the Yankees, but I think it's fairly close...I'd put it at 60-40 odds or so.
dont see him choosing mets if they aren't at least .500 and in contention for a WC. he is going to have options just like ohtani had 3 or 4 teams willing to pay the freight and how LAD matched on yamamoto.
His best chance is to hit the weights and alter his approach to generate more power and harder hit balls. The hope would be that he'll be able to retain enough of his contact ability to still be viable despite changing things up. Chance that it doesn't work. but there's also a chance he's out of baseball by 34 if he doesn't change things up and continues like he currently is playing for rest of 2024 and during 2025.
Duly noted. A lot of good convos/chats get lost in the weeds when we do daily threads. They won't this way. I'll post today's lineups and starting pitcher matchups in this thread in about two hours just the same way as before. After tomorrow's series finale we can take another pole at how this worked out.
Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the game tonight & tomorrow in D.C. against the Nats.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Both today’s & tomorrow’s games will be on SNY.
-The weather forecast for tonight's game at Nationals Park looks decent except for around the start of the game when there will be a chance of thunderstorms and rain. Click HERE to keep updated and see Hourly AccuWeather Reports for there.
-Carlos Mendoza said that Francisco Alvarez won’t be travelling with the team to London in the upcoming series there against the Phillies in a few days. Mendoza did indicate though that there’s a good chance that Alvarez joins the Mets again on June 11th when they begin their homestand against the Marlins. It all depends on if he continues to make progress or not.
-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Taylor (R), McNeil (L), & Stewart (L).
Mets @ Nats | 6:45 pm EDT start - June 4, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)
Mets @ Nats | 6:45 pm EDT start - June 4, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Nats’ feed – MASN (strfish.xyz)
MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Nats – June 4, 2024 - 6:45 pm EDT start
Note: Ron won’t be calling the game tonight.
Enjoy tonight's game 😊
Now let's go get one.
McGill in the BP would be better, imo. Peterson always teases. Hope he can string a few good starts together
Props to Vientos too btw. Excellent defensive play in the 6th and good challenge. Kid's thriving at the plate and in the field. Mets are gonna have a nice problem between him and Baty down the line.
they have to get baty some OF time. that could/should be his spot in a couple weeks. can start twice a week for marte, once or twice a week for vientos at 3b whenever he spells alonso or jdm.
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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
Here's the rest of his pitching line tonight:
5 H
2 R
2 ER
2 BB
2 K
0 HR
3.09 ERA
28 Batters faced
2 HBP