So this is making the rounds today. CJ Stroud was asked whose career he'd rather have, Aaron Rodgers or Eli Mannings...One more ring vs. Stats. Stroud said Eli's. link - ( New Window )
an Eli fan, but some of you twist yourselves into pretzels to knock down someone else who is also successful like it's a zero sum game.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
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"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
You know who you are. Or worse, maybe you don't.
Oof. Link - ( New Window )
oof is right. it applies to this thread too, but I see which side of the "fooled" equation you are on.
If there's one thing I've always known, it's that you definitely have it all figured out.
Let me ask you, do you use Reynold's or store brand for you hats?
I'm not burning Rodgers' jerseys/his opinions aren't keeping me up @ night. Honestly, I don't really give much thought other than, 'One of the better QBs I've ever seen. I'd love him as my QB tomorrow. But somebody I'd never be friends with.'
I get winning Super Bowls are hard, but it is kinda amazing that between him & Favre, the Packers have the same amount of Lombardis we have since Brett took over in '92. It does look like GB hit the jackpot again with Love. Bastards.
I wouldn't be so enamored with Love just yet.
That interception to cement the loss in the playoffs was very bad.
an Eli fan, but some of you twist yourselves into pretzels to knock down someone else who is also successful like it's a zero sum game.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
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I am just amazed at how someone would think that Eli is a better QB or had a better career than Rodgers. Why? Because he has one more ring?
With that logic, you can also say that Amani Toomer had a better career than Larry Fitzgerald.
Eli has two rings because he played well in the playoffs and Superbowls, but also because the whole team played well. We had the defense, the offensive line, the running game, and yes the kicker. This is not to minimize the accomplishments but holy shit it is a team game.
Rodgers is the better QB by a mile and is a first ballot HOF candidate. We are still talking about whether Eli will get in (and I believe he should).
Stroud cam off more than a bit arrogant. One good rookie year and he's going to talk and dog Rodgers. Not a good look IMO
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
an Eli fan, but some of you twist yourselves into pretzels to knock down someone else who is also successful like it's a zero sum game.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
+ 100
I am just amazed at how someone would think that Eli is a better QB or had a better career than Rodgers. Why? Because he has one more ring?
With that logic, you can also say that Amani Toomer had a better career than Larry Fitzgerald.
Eli has two rings because he played well in the playoffs and Superbowls, but also because the whole team played well. We had the defense, the offensive line, the running game, and yes the kicker. This is not to minimize the accomplishments but holy shit it is a team game.
Rodgers is the better QB by a mile and is a first ballot HOF candidate. We are still talking about whether Eli will get in (and I believe he should).
Ask Larry Fitzgerald if he would trade his career and personal accomplishments for Amani Toomer and his career and superbowl win.
Dan Marino has talked about not winning a superbowl being his biggest regret and he would trade his personal accomplishments for just one superbowl.
We aren't talking about who is better, we are talking about career accomplishments and most players would rather have a superbowl ring, because that is the ultimate prize as a competitor over personal accomplishments.
No past comparison is going to be completely on point
The WCO is more QB friendly. Eli entered the 2012 season at 31 years old and a two time SB MVP.
With a quality front office he had 5-6 high quality years ahead with another opportunity to make a run with a quality team. Instead he had a lot of subpar talent around him.
GB has been one of the model franchises when it comes to the draft for over 30 years. Different QB's and skill sets. If both had good teams around them with a winner take all I'll take Eli.
Stroud cam off more than a bit arrogant. One good rookie year and he's going to talk and dog Rodgers. Not a good look IMO
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
Eli won 2 SBs, Rogers has won one. Rogers received more personal achievement and his teams were more consistently good with him. But I think almost any QB would say publicly what Stroud did. They'd take a ton of heat for being a "me first" player valuing personal achievement over the ultimate in team objectives, SB wins, if they didn't. And he probably does feel that way as I think most sincerely would. But if he didn't, then Stroud was probably smart not to admit it.
Stroud cam off more than a bit arrogant. One good rookie year and he's going to talk and dog Rodgers. Not a good look IMO
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
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In comment 16531004 pjcas18 said:
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an Eli fan, but some of you twist yourselves into pretzels to knock down someone else who is also successful like it's a zero sum game.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
Quote:
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
You know who you are. Or worse, maybe you don't.
Oof. Link - ( New Window )
oof is right. it applies to this thread too, but I see which side of the "fooled" equation you are on.
If there's one thing I've always known, it's that you definitely have it all figured out.
Let me ask you, do you use Reynold's or store brand for you hats?
I get winning Super Bowls are hard, but it is kinda amazing that between him & Favre, the Packers have the same amount of Lombardis we have since Brett took over in '92. It does look like GB hit the jackpot again with Love. Bastards.
I wouldn't be so enamored with Love just yet.
That interception to cement the loss in the playoffs was very bad.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
+ 100
I am just amazed at how someone would think that Eli is a better QB or had a better career than Rodgers. Why? Because he has one more ring?
With that logic, you can also say that Amani Toomer had a better career than Larry Fitzgerald.
Eli has two rings because he played well in the playoffs and Superbowls, but also because the whole team played well. We had the defense, the offensive line, the running game, and yes the kicker. This is not to minimize the accomplishments but holy shit it is a team game.
Rodgers is the better QB by a mile and is a first ballot HOF candidate. We are still talking about whether Eli will get in (and I believe he should).
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
That kid... OJ Simpson
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an Eli fan, but some of you twist yourselves into pretzels to knock down someone else who is also successful like it's a zero sum game.
Aaron Rodgers was a finalist to host jeopardy and his national ad campaigns like State Farm and the discount double check had him at least at the same level as Eli in the $8-$10M per year in endorsements.
You disagree with his politics and personal beliefs like the mainstream media does so you make him into a super villain. it's actually almost sad to see the effect they have on the lemmings, sad, but predictable.
+ 100
I am just amazed at how someone would think that Eli is a better QB or had a better career than Rodgers. Why? Because he has one more ring?
With that logic, you can also say that Amani Toomer had a better career than Larry Fitzgerald.
Eli has two rings because he played well in the playoffs and Superbowls, but also because the whole team played well. We had the defense, the offensive line, the running game, and yes the kicker. This is not to minimize the accomplishments but holy shit it is a team game.
Rodgers is the better QB by a mile and is a first ballot HOF candidate. We are still talking about whether Eli will get in (and I believe he should).
Ask Larry Fitzgerald if he would trade his career and personal accomplishments for Amani Toomer and his career and superbowl win.
Dan Marino has talked about not winning a superbowl being his biggest regret and he would trade his personal accomplishments for just one superbowl.
We aren't talking about who is better, we are talking about career accomplishments and most players would rather have a superbowl ring, because that is the ultimate prize as a competitor over personal accomplishments.
With a quality front office he had 5-6 high quality years ahead with another opportunity to make a run with a quality team. Instead he had a lot of subpar talent around him.
GB has been one of the model franchises when it comes to the draft for over 30 years. Different QB's and skill sets. If both had good teams around them with a winner take all I'll take Eli.
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Stroud cam off more than a bit arrogant. One good rookie year and he's going to talk and dog Rodgers. Not a good look IMO
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
That kid... OJ Simpson
Was that Jim Brown he said that to or Ted Bundy?
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In comment 16531584 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Stroud cam off more than a bit arrogant. One good rookie year and he's going to talk and dog Rodgers. Not a good look IMO
I suppose it is okay if he can back it up throughout his career.
True story here..
During Jim Brown's career, he was in San Francisco to play the 49ers.
At some point, he stopped in at a local shop and ordered a milk shake. A couple of young teenagers were looking at him knowing who he was. One of those teens walked up to him and said "I am going to break all of your records one day". Jim Brown just smiled and had some friendly reply.
That kid... OJ Simpson
Was that Jim Brown he said that to or Ted Bundy?
I actually think it was Jeffrey Dahmer