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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/6/2024 7:04 pm
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN

Just walked off the #Giants’ practice field. Malik Nabers was ELECTRIC today. 2 deep TDs from Drew Lock:

One on a 9 route down the left sideline vs Cor’Dale Flott on an accurate deep Lock throw

And a leaping, highlight-reel catch on a Lock improv rollout and shot play over top of the safeties. Nabers improv’d, flew up high and snagged the ball and appeared to land in bounds inside the left sideline in the end zone — incredible catch

In early routes, he made an insane grab on a Daniel Jones throw way out in front of him

Big day for the Giants’ 1st round pick


Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

On Malik Nabers today: I have not seen a receiver have a practice like he did today since Odell. Wish I can give you more than words and the video is the team opts to put out.
Jumped off the page, so to speak. If this were training camp, my word.
#NYGiants


Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21

Nabers had a monster day. Had two long TD catches. The second one was an acrobatic leaping grab in the end zone

Chris B from the The Giant Insider Podcast posted a video: "Malik Nabers...he looks like the real deal.'

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christian : 6/7/2024 10:07 am : link
In comment 16532428 HBart said:
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In 2022, Daniel Jones had an 81% on-target rate (472 throws) which led the entire NFL. Number 2 was Aaron Rodgers. The only 2 QBs in the league to exceed 80%.

Also, the earth is round.


In 2022 Rodgers's passes traveled 1300+ more yards than Jones's in aggregate, and traveled 1.6 more yards per throw.

The on target component between Rodgers and Jones is a drastically different measurement considering the types of throws.
RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
Darwinian : 6/7/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16532428 HBart said:
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In comment 16532357 Darwinian said:


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when they are supposed to be on the money.

Inaccurate.

This is the kind of performance indicative of bad quarterbacking.

Drew Lock, who will never be mistaken for John Elway, is going to win the QB job.


In 2022, Daniel Jones had an 81% on-target rate (472 throws) which led the entire NFL. Number 2 was Aaron Rodgers. The only 2 QBs in the league to exceed 80%.

Also, the earth is round.


He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.
RE: RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
section125 : 6/7/2024 10:21 am : link
In comment 16532451 Darwinian said:
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In comment 16532428 HBart said:


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In comment 16532357 Darwinian said:


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when they are supposed to be on the money.

Inaccurate.

This is the kind of performance indicative of bad quarterbacking.

Drew Lock, who will never be mistaken for John Elway, is going to win the QB job.


In 2022, Daniel Jones had an 81% on-target rate (472 throws) which led the entire NFL. Number 2 was Aaron Rodgers. The only 2 QBs in the league to exceed 80%.

Also, the earth is round.



He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.


Remember, Herbert's YPA in 2022 was identical to Jones at 6.4...

We really don't need to relitigate 2022 over. The numbers haven't changed and Jones is vertically challenged.
RE: RE: RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
Darwinian : 6/7/2024 11:56 am : link
In comment 16532459 section125 said:
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In comment 16532451 Darwinian said:


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In comment 16532428 HBart said:


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In comment 16532357 Darwinian said:


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when they are supposed to be on the money.

Inaccurate.

This is the kind of performance indicative of bad quarterbacking.

Drew Lock, who will never be mistaken for John Elway, is going to win the QB job.


In 2022, Daniel Jones had an 81% on-target rate (472 throws) which led the entire NFL. Number 2 was Aaron Rodgers. The only 2 QBs in the league to exceed 80%.

Also, the earth is round.



He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.



Remember, Herbert's YPA in 2022 was identical to Jones at 6.4...

We really don't need to relitigate 2022 over. The numbers haven't changed and Jones is vertically challenged.


You should stop comparing Herbert to Jones. It's embarrassing. Yes his Y/A was low in 2022 but Herbert threw for the most yards in the history of the NFL to start his career. If Jones had that kind of overall productivity we wouldn't complain about him. There is a reason Herbert is universally appreciated whereas Jones' play underwhelms almost all observers and analysts.
RE: Some of you  
kickoff : 6/7/2024 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16532231 Giantsbigblue said:
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are something else. Jones is limited to 7 on 7 drills.


I asked this before. What's the difference, safety wise, that JD is limited to 7 on 7? 7 on 7, 11 on 11, no contact in both drills.
RE: RE: Some of you  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/7/2024 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16532576 kickoff said:
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In comment 16532231 Giantsbigblue said:


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are something else. Jones is limited to 7 on 7 drills.



I asked this before. What's the difference, safety wise, that JD is limited to 7 on 7? 7 on 7, 11 on 11, no contact in both drills.

Janiel Dones?
RE: RE: Some of you  
UberAlias : 6/7/2024 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16532576 kickoff said:
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In comment 16532231 Giantsbigblue said:


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are something else. Jones is limited to 7 on 7 drills.



I asked this before. What's the difference, safety wise, that JD is limited to 7 on 7? 7 on 7, 11 on 11, no contact in both drills.
You don’t have bodies coming at you to potentially avoid in 7-7.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
christian : 6/7/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16532526 Darwinian said:
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He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.

Remember, Herbert's YPA in 2022 was identical to Jones at 6.4...

We really don't need to relitigate 2022 over. The numbers haven't changed and Jones is vertically challenged.

You should stop comparing Herbert to Jones. It's embarrassing. Yes his Y/A was low in 2022 but Herbert threw for the most yards in the history of the NFL to start his career.


2022 was also an outlier for Herbert. The line was a mess, and they like the Giants went to a shorter/volume pass game.

The key difference is Herbert passed for 1600 more yards and took twice as many deep shots as Jones that year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
Darwinian : 6/7/2024 10:34 pm : link
In comment 16532588 christian said:
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In comment 16532526 Darwinian said:


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He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.

Remember, Herbert's YPA in 2022 was identical to Jones at 6.4...

We really don't need to relitigate 2022 over. The numbers haven't changed and Jones is vertically challenged.

You should stop comparing Herbert to Jones. It's embarrassing. Yes his Y/A was low in 2022 but Herbert threw for the most yards in the history of the NFL to start his career.



2022 was also an outlier for Herbert. The line was a mess, and they like the Giants went to a shorter/volume pass game.

The key difference is Herbert passed for 1600 more yards and took twice as many deep shots as Jones that year.


Yes. 100%
RE: RE: RE: We have a description of a QB who makes off target throws  
Toth029 : 6/8/2024 12:01 am : link
In comment 16532451 Darwinian said:
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In comment 16532428 HBart said:


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In comment 16532357 Darwinian said:


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when they are supposed to be on the money.

Inaccurate.

This is the kind of performance indicative of bad quarterbacking.

Drew Lock, who will never be mistaken for John Elway, is going to win the QB job.


In 2022, Daniel Jones had an 81% on-target rate (472 throws) which led the entire NFL. Number 2 was Aaron Rodgers. The only 2 QBs in the league to exceed 80%.

Also, the earth is round.



He was LAST in ADOT and LAST in Y/A. I would hope that an NFL starting QB would be on target when he leads the league throwing behind the LOS, and barely throws anything over 6 yards. Also, 1+1=2. I know, advanced math is a bitch.


He wasn't last in neither IAY/A or CAY/A. Yes the offense was limited in big plays, and when your wide receivers are primarily David Sills, Marcus Johnson, Isaiah Hodgins, and Richie James, that's going to happen. They didn't create many explosive plays, that's factual. Also factual they were 15th in total offense (16th in points per drive) with those receivers, and the pass game with Jones wasn't last in either category. If you want to say bottom of the league, go ahead. They weren't going to be the '99 Rams with those receivers.

As a Giants fan, you would hope they have progress to where Brian Daboll wants them to be now with Nabers on board. I, however, feel like many here prefer some things not to happen a specific way because then they might disappear from the message board for a while.
FFS...  
Brown_Hornet : 6/8/2024 12:10 am : link
...anyone criticizing Jones on a thread about Nabers having a good day should be shunned, not debated.

RE: FFS...  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/8/2024 8:51 am : link
In comment 16532940 Brown_Hornet said:
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...anyone criticizing Jones on a thread about Nabers having a good day should be shunned, not debated.

I'm sure you and the rest of the polyanna posse can start your own subreddit exclusively for DJ enthusiasts.
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