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Anybody else pumped up for this year?!?!

Jay7852 : 6/7/2024 1:27 pm
I want to preface this by saying I am probably the most optimistic person ever lol

I think the Giants are in store for a great year TBH, just wanted to list some reasons why:

Carmen Bricillo ! Hearing Runyan talk about how attentive to details he is and how he is working on fixing bad habits has me pumped up. JMS should be much better after taking his rookie lumps last year. Andrew Thomas is a stud obviously. Have legitimate options at Right tackle if Evan Neal fails.

Malik Nabers!!! Giants have a legitimate number 1 WR and playmaker. Will make things easier for Slayton and Jalin Hyatt bulked up…should be able to get off press easier and use his elite speed. . WanDale Robinson was coming on STRONG at the end of last year. WR core looking very strong.

Brian Daboll calling plays! (I know, not confirmed yet). The dude is a fantasy’s playcaller and will know how to scheme stuff for Nabers, who is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball.

Brian Burns! A stud edge rusher will help tremendously. Kayvon, Burns and Dexter is a top tier defensive line. Banks had a great rookie year and should only get better. Nubin is a ballhawk and should fit perfectly with Bowens style. Okereke can cover! Going to be very tough to get explosive plays against us. Azeez Olujari shouldn’t have to play as many snaps and can hopefully stay healthy…I predict a contract year breakout for him.

Chip on his shoulder Daniel jones / Drew Lock…..let’s let the best man win. Maybe this lights a fire under Daniel Jones. Maybe Daboll can unlock Drew Locks tools. He seems to have matured.

Should do better against the division this year. Eagles losing Kelce is tough! I personally think that will be the end of the “tush push”. Totally new offense for the eagles and defense was shaky last year. Cowboys did very little this offseason while we added Nabers and Burns!!! Commanders should be better but they are still the commanders and Daniel Jones seems to own them.

Giants have good Vibes around them!!! The 100 year anniversary…the new uniforms….the Hard knocks…the good gesture gift box to the season ticket holders. This is a new Era! Saquonless Giants.

New Special teams coach! It can’t get worse right?? lol Gano should be healthy. Gunner/mckenzie will be a huge step up from Eric grey. Possibly Tyron Tracy in the mix. Have a feeling special teams will be an advantage this year.

Aaron Robinson, Cordale Flott, Dru Philllips, Darnay Holmes, Nick Mcloud , tre Hawkins. Chances are ONE of them steps up!!!

Just put a $100 on Nabers leading NFL in receiving yards, pays out 5 grand.
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RE: I'm pumped every year  
Brown_Hornet : 6/8/2024 10:21 pm : link
In comment 16532598 Biteymax22 said:
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I can at least find the positives and fun stuff to watch for even when we're bad.

This year Nabers could turn into our next star, the story line of whether or not Bricillo can turn around the OL is intriguing and I think we should have one of our better pass rushes in years.
yessir... it's how I start every season.
No.  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 6/11/2024 10:34 am : link
We have done good players and I'd love to be shocked but being excited after the last ten years is wild. Like that has to be a mental issue, can you gaslight yourself?
RE: what is there to be pumped for  
UConn4523 : 6/11/2024 10:40 am : link
In comment 16533150 BigBlueCane said:
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Watching Drew Locke turn it around and then leave for another, more lucrative offer elsewhere?


If Locke played and plays well, we are likely a playoff team. How is that not fun?
I'm always pumped for a new season.  
Mad Mike : 6/11/2024 11:46 am : link
I'm a Giants fan and I enjoy Giants football. Obviously the team does not come into the season off a lot of recent success or with a loaded roster, pumping yourself up with expectations of being contenders would be unrealistic. But there are some exciting players and some important (and hopefully positive) coaching changes, and I'm excited to see how that translates on the field. I'm cautiously optimistic about Schoen and Dabs, and I hope this season shows they've got the team moving in the right direction. Remains to be seen of course, but I look forward to seeing how things go.
Always pumped  
Joey in VA : 6/11/2024 12:27 pm : link
It's football, I live for it. I think we'll be better than most suspect. We have elite talent in several areas and a lot of good young talent with a great coaching staff. Year 3 for DJ in Daboll's system is the make or break for me now. I hated the pick, he won me over as a rookie, lost me in years 2 and 3, won me over in 2022 and wrapped the bed last year. I'm giving him one final chance.
RE: what is there to be pumped for  
djm : 6/11/2024 12:51 pm : link
In comment 16533150 BigBlueCane said:
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Watching Drew Locke turn it around and then leave for another, more lucrative offer elsewhere?


Such a random and weird thought or fear, lol. Yea, THAT keeps me up at night....
I think they could be an okay team  
Greg from LI : 6/11/2024 1:00 pm : link
7-9 wins maybe. There is a pretty hard ceiling on wins so long as they have a total stiff at QB, though.
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Go Terps : 6/11/2024 1:26 pm : link
The way the schedule breaks you could see them going into the bye at 3-7/4-6, "rebounding" to 4-3 for an "encouraging" 7-10/8-9 year.

Run it back in 2025.

 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/11/2024 1:28 pm : link
If we’re ‘running it back’ after a possible 7-10 or 8-9 season, like WTF are we doing? Seriously.
I'm excited to see Nabers  
Jerry in_DC : 6/11/2024 2:04 pm : link
But this is basically Year 11 of bad/mediocre team with 1 exciting skill position player. So the novelty is a bit worn.
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Go Terps : 6/11/2024 2:16 pm : link
Last year Zay Flowers and Rashee Rice were around 900 yards/6 TDs, I think, with two of the best QBs in the league on two of the best offenses in the league.

Kadarius Toney's rookie year was, I believe, about 450 yards and 0 TDs.

So if you figure he won't be as bad as Toney or as good as Rice/Flowers, you figure Malik Nabers for around 750 yards/4 TD.

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djm : 6/12/2024 12:06 pm : link
In comment 16534673 Go Terps said:
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Last year Zay Flowers and Rashee Rice were around 900 yards/6 TDs, I think, with two of the best QBs in the league on two of the best offenses in the league.

Kadarius Toney's rookie year was, I believe, about 450 yards and 0 TDs.

So if you figure he won't be as bad as Toney or as good as Rice/Flowers, you figure Malik Nabers for around 750 yards/4 TD.



That's some amazingly odd and pointless logic you're displaying.
also  
djm : 6/12/2024 12:14 pm : link
one (WRs on Balt and WRs on the 2021 Giants) they have nothing to do with the other. They also have nothing to do with 2024 NYG. Who the fuck cares.

Also, since when did you become so obsessed with stats? I get the need to win, we all want that, but every post out of you is centered on stats. Ironic since the best QB in NYG history didn't post stats even remotely close to "gawdy" until 2011 and even more so in 14 and 15 when the team sucked. Will you be misery posting in January 25 if by some chance this team goes 10-7 and earns a playoff spot "despite" DJ posting similar stats to 2022 and Nabers maybe having a Hakeem Nicks type rookie season? Nicks went for like 50-6 and 700 or close to it. Will you be fine with that if they win or no? I would be fine with 2-3 good seasons no matter WTF the stats look like.



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Go Terps : 6/12/2024 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16535350 djm said:
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In comment 16534673 Go Terps said:


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Last year Zay Flowers and Rashee Rice were around 900 yards/6 TDs, I think, with two of the best QBs in the league on two of the best offenses in the league.

Kadarius Toney's rookie year was, I believe, about 450 yards and 0 TDs.

So if you figure he won't be as bad as Toney or as good as Rice/Flowers, you figure Malik Nabers for around 750 yards/4 TD.





That's some amazingly odd and pointless logic you're displaying.


Bud I'm going to level with you. You've been a weather vane on this board for years pointing out fact and fiction; where djm points, the truth is probably the other way. You lecturing me on logic, it's just wind.
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JT039 : 6/12/2024 12:21 pm : link
In comment 16535358 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16535350 djm said:


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In comment 16534673 Go Terps said:


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Last year Zay Flowers and Rashee Rice were around 900 yards/6 TDs, I think, with two of the best QBs in the league on two of the best offenses in the league.

Kadarius Toney's rookie year was, I believe, about 450 yards and 0 TDs.

So if you figure he won't be as bad as Toney or as good as Rice/Flowers, you figure Malik Nabers for around 750 yards/4 TD.





That's some amazingly odd and pointless logic you're displaying.



Bud I'm going to level with you. You've been a weather vane on this board for years pointing out fact and fiction; where djm points, the truth is probably the other way. You lecturing me on logic, it's just wind.


So we’re you when the Giants made the playoffs but magically here when they weren’t.

Not a coincidence I’m sure.
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JT039 : 6/12/2024 12:21 pm : link
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djm : 6/12/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16535358 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16535350 djm said:


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In comment 16534673 Go Terps said:


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Last year Zay Flowers and Rashee Rice were around 900 yards/6 TDs, I think, with two of the best QBs in the league on two of the best offenses in the league.

Kadarius Toney's rookie year was, I believe, about 450 yards and 0 TDs.

So if you figure he won't be as bad as Toney or as good as Rice/Flowers, you figure Malik Nabers for around 750 yards/4 TD.





That's some amazingly odd and pointless logic you're displaying.



Bud I'm going to level with you. You've been a weather vane on this board for years pointing out fact and fiction; where djm points, the truth is probably the other way. You lecturing me on logic, it's just wind.




You want to win debates all day long be my guest. I want the Giants to win games in 2024 and don't think hyper fixating on 30 passing TDs is the most logical way to look at this. You post with the same transparent agenda every fucking day dude. LEt me guess, now that the Giants have built this halfway decent roster while NOT cutting Jones he obviously needs to post 30 stupid fucking TDs and 4000 passing yards or Schoen / Daboll are massive failures. Stop me if I am wrong? No? Yea, That take is straight up bullshit.

What's more important? Since you didn't answer it before and instead just resorted to potshots, what's more important in 2024? 9-10 wins and show legit roster growth or DJ throwing 28-30 Tds and 4000 yards? I ask because the Giants just won in 22 on the backs of close to 4000 TOTAL yards but only 22 total TDs. So if he did that again and they won 10 games would you be at least remotely satisfied with Schoen and Daboll or at least confident in their acumen here? Forget Jones we know you want to fight him naked in your bedroom.
I was pumped  
Joey in VA : 6/12/2024 1:13 pm : link
Then Kevin asked me out.
and you literally begged the Giants to cut Michael Strahan  
djm : 6/12/2024 1:14 pm : link
and you know what, that trumps a lot of wrong takes here. You cost us the 2007 super bowl championship. Repent.
I think the goal of every NYG fan  
djm : 6/12/2024 1:23 pm : link
should be to keep this regime in place. To keep things moving in the right direction, if it is indeed headed that way. This year is huge. I don't know about anyone else but the thought of restarting things once again in 25 is horrifying to consider. I won't even think about the GM as I don't see him being wacked anytime soon but a new HC doesn't sit well with me even if the new HC is a near flawless candidate. Let's be honest, they don't exist especially when you consider that Harbaugh is locked in to the Chargers.

So if you want things to head in the right direction and you want stability here, and you should, you want this team to win games on the backs of the rookies, 2nd year 3rd year and 4th year players. I want to buy in. I want to see 2 out of 3 good seasons for the time in fucking YEARS. I want to see the successive bad years in a row STOP. Above all else, call me petty, I can't handle another bad season that sows the seeds of discontent or worse, change. I am fucking done with it all.

And here's the thing, even if this take is somewhat defeatist I think chasing the QB in this past draft, as much as I wanted to see them go all in on one, carried a huge risk especially since the top 3 QBs were off the board. It's not like the Giants didn't try. I would have been excited for the QB don't get me wrong, but part of me is relieved to see them draft a skill player at 6 instead of the QB. You have a team leader at QB in Jones that sets a good example (maybe even great example) for the younger players here. Let the team walk before it can fly. We didn't pass on the best 1-2 QBs in the draft. We passed on the 4th for a near lock at WR. That's how rosters are built to last.

The ultimate goal is the super bowl but we're nowhere near that yet, new QB or not. We need to establish a template of winning here. Players are needed. You can't whiff in the first round over and over or we're gonna suck forever.
Id rather have a QB throw for 4k and 30 TDs  
Jerry in_DC : 6/12/2024 2:39 pm : link
and win 7 games than have a repeat of 2022.

I care about the Giants being a very good team for a multiple year span. Playing in and having a chance to win big games against top teams.

If you have a QB who can run a high octane passing offense, you have the inside track on being really good.

If you're a mediocre team with a bad QB, you will stumble into 9 wins every once in a while, but you will not achieve a consistent high level of success.
so you'd rather see 30 TDs and 4000 passing yards  
djm : 6/12/2024 4:48 pm : link
and lose 10 games than see 3400 passing yards and let's say 18 passing TDs and 6-8 rushing TDs while the team wins 9-10 games


Where is it etched in stone that 30 TDs ensures long term success or inevitable super bowl bound glory? I guess I just don't buy that this BBI holy grail stat line is so definitively proven to ensure long term success. I know it helps as most good QBs post this stat line, but it isn't the end all be all.

I just want to see another good year. I guess we can agree to disagree. Thx.
my take doesn't mean I don't want THAT QB  
djm : 6/12/2024 4:49 pm : link
of course I do. I just don't know if JJM or Nix or Penix was that guy. Ill leave it at that. Seems you say one thing around here and it can be twisted into something else.

Good luck in 24.
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