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NFT: Hockey Thread: Stanley Cup Finals Start Tonight

pjcas18 : 6/8/2024 7:17 am
Edmonton Oilers @ Florida Panthers 8pm ET on ABC.

The Panthers are favored to win the series due to a well balanced team and a stout goalie, but the Oilers have the playoffs top 4 scorers and 5 of the top 7.

Florida's biggest weakness is their D are not very good defensively and due to their aggressive style they play in the offensive zone are prone to giving up odd-man rushes and they rely on their goalie (Bobrovsky) to bail them out. They also take a lot of penalties (generally speaking).

the Oilers are lethal on the power play (37.3% to lead the playoffs). The Oilers PK also leads the playoffs. They will need both to be at their best to win the series because their goalie (Skinner) has not been consistent (but was fantastic in the Dallas series).

This is Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's first SCF appearance and both have had stellar careers to this point, but post-season success has eluded them both and been a stain to an extent on their careers. The only stain.

Should be a fun series. The heavy forecheck and 200-foot game of Florida with Barkov, Tkachuck, Bennett, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, vs the speed and skill of Edmonton with McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, etc.

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Route 9 : 6/19/2024 10:41 am : link
My GOD, Mcdavid is a BEAST
Another two  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 10:47 am : link
travel days for a flight most of the non-pampered public makes and does their business the next day.

Friday night game 6 and Monday night game 7 if needed.

Flames trade G Jacob Markstrom to the Devils  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 12:04 pm : link
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Jay on the Island  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 12:08 pm : link
called this a couple days ago.
RE: Flames trade G Jacob Markstrom to the Devils  
Stu11 : 6/19/2024 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16539619 Anakim said:
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Jay you're our first official hockey asshat!
RE: RE: Flames trade G Jacob Markstrom to the Devils  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 12:12 pm : link
In comment 16539626 Stu11 said:
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Jay you're our first official hockey asshat!



No, SethfromAstoria was...wonder what happened to him.
Btw I know it's not on ice related but awful job by the Devils here  
Stu11 : 6/19/2024 12:17 pm : link
They're not bringing back Erika Wachter who does the pre/post and between period stuff. She wasn't hugely knowledgeable on the hockey end when she started 6 years ago but really became a student of the game and did a really good job. She's gonna be missed. MSG network sucks. I think she has a bright future in the business.
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Kevin Bahl and a 2025 first round pick going to Calgary  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 12:20 pm : link
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RE: Kevin Bahl and a 2025 first round pick going to Calgary  
Stu11 : 6/19/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16539636 Anakim said:
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The pick is top 10 protected and Calgary is retaining salary. Not killing the trade at all, and Ball is no Norris candidate, but on a team and defense so lacking in size and physicality I don't think I would have dealt one of our few sources of it. I'd have pushed Siegenthaler instead but maybe they tried and Calgary wanted the size.
I wonder if there is a site  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 12:45 pm : link
that has the likelihood of Tkachuk making this play.

RE: Another two  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/19/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16539574 pjcas18 said:
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travel days for a flight most of the non-pampered public makes and does their business the next day.

Friday night game 6 and Monday night game 7 if needed.


10 hour flight. My buddy who played for Florida(now their VP or sales) says it’s a horrible flight. These guys are the least pampered and most approachable of any major sport by far
RE: RE: Another two  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16539682 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 16539574 pjcas18 said:


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travel days for a flight most of the non-pampered public makes and does their business the next day.

Friday night game 6 and Monday night game 7 if needed.




10 hour flight. My buddy who played for Florida(now their VP or sales) says it’s a horrible flight. These guys are the least pampered and most approachable of any major sport by far


That's why you have a full travel day.

BOS vs VAN didn't need an extra day for travel.

it's 2500 miles from Boston to Vancouer which is only slightly less than Miami to Edmonton.

it's the same flight time from what I know.
Pierre-Luc Dubois to Washington for Darcy Kuemper  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 3:14 pm : link
Wow, busy day
lol  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 3:35 pm : link
MTL dodged a bullet with PLD. It seemed fait accompli him going to the Habs, but I'm glad Gorton/Hughes balked at the asking price.

Not sure how Blake survives that.

They had to move him before his NMC triggers in after the draft. Rumors were he was going to be bought out.

Finally  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 7:48 am : link
after a mini vacation, we resume the SCFs with game 6 in EDM @ 8pm.

I'm just hoping for good hockey, but obviously would LOVE a game 7. Game 7's for the cup are just next level intensity.

crowd will be great tonight. FLA needs to score first and quiet them. EDM needs to prevent that. lol.
Crazy that hockey is still going on  
Metnut : 6/21/2024 9:37 am : link
Draft and 4th of July are right around the corner. NHL should consider reworking the calendar to end a little bit earlier rather than in summer?

Def going to keep an eye on the game. Rooting for Game 7.
Florida needs to show some discipline  
Rick in Dallas : 6/21/2024 9:38 am : link
And stay out of the penalty box
Also Bobrovsky needs to regain his Mojo
Oilers have the momentum for sure
Game 7 would be awesome
I so want to be able to laugh at Florida forever  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2024 9:40 am : link
for blowing a 3-0 series lead, dirty ass team that they are
RE: I so want to be able to laugh at Florida forever  
NYerInMA : 6/21/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16540630 Greg from LI said:
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for blowing a 3-0 series lead, dirty ass team that they are


Yep, go Oilers!
RE: Crazy that hockey is still going on  
BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2024 10:12 am : link
In comment 16540625 Metnut said:
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Draft and 4th of July are right around the corner. NHL should consider reworking the calendar to end a little bit earlier rather than in summer?

Def going to keep an eye on the game. Rooting for Game 7.


Will never happen, but the regular season should be 72 games. End the playoffs in May or first week of June.
Shaving 10  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 10:28 am : link
games or around 12.5% off the season would cost money to the owners, front offices and players.

Now, I'm not saying everyone is greedy, but do you think if you give those groups the choice of playing a reasonable season and ending at a reasonable time and giving back 12.5% of your compensation or leave it as is, what do you think they will do?

If you left the money the same you may get some traction, but why would you leave the money the same?
The sweet spot for the schedule  
NYerInMA : 6/21/2024 10:37 am : link
would be 76 games now that there's 32 teams. That would allow each team to have:

- 4 games against each divisional opponent
- 2 games against each conference non-divisional opponent
- 2 games against each non-conference opponent

The next sweet spot would be to add 1 game against each non-divisional conference opponent to the current schedule, and that would take the season to 84 games.
That's why it would never happen, lol.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2024 10:43 am : link
No one ever wants to give up money.
Come on guys...  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 10:54 am : link
16 of 32 teams make the playoffs. It's clear that the playoffs are a different animal and played completely different than the regular season. The regular season means absolutely nothing. It's just to pass time, put butts in seats, and make money. It's way too long and unnecessary when you have a 50/50 chance of getting in to the dance.

The playoffs. Four series which could allow for a team to play up to 28 games. That's more than a THIRD of the regular season. Absurd. First round should be best of 3, second round best of 5, then 7 for the last two rounds.

One vote for leaving it exactly as is  
Rob in Rockaway : 6/21/2024 11:38 am : link
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Route 9 : 6/21/2024 12:30 pm : link
I actually wish hockey started later and ended later. Bridge the gap between hockey ending and football starting. Start the NHL in December, maybe January when football is just about winding down.

As much as the lockdowns sucked, having all of those sports going on during the boring months of summer months at the same time was a great payoff.
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Route 9 : 6/21/2024 12:32 pm : link
I think in 2013 maybe, the cup ended in late June maybe way too close to July?
I like the 4 rounds of 7  
NYerInMA : 6/21/2024 12:56 pm : link
I think the MLB playoffs are too quick, honestly. With a best of 7 you really know which team is better.
RE: I like the 4 rounds of 7  
JohnF : 6/21/2024 3:55 pm : link
In comment 16540762 NYerInMA said:
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I think the MLB playoffs are too quick, honestly. With a best of 7 you really know which team is better.


LOL, so under that arrangement who is the first "Mr. Thanksgiving" ??
RE: I so want to be able to laugh at Florida forever  
Route 9 : 6/21/2024 4:42 pm : link
In comment 16540630 Greg from LI said:
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for blowing a 3-0 series lead, dirty ass team that they are


I have a sneaking suspicion that Edmonton is going to pull this off. I have no idea why. that's why it's a sneaking suspicion.

I hope I'm right. The Oilers seem way more relaxed and the Panthers just don't look right.
I think Florida has been playing tight games all playoff  
Stu11 : 6/21/2024 5:09 pm : link
They haven't been especially great at finishing so they're playing with fire. Sooner or later you risk not getting that decisive goal in the 3rd period like they seem to always do.
RE: RE: I so want to be able to laugh at Florida forever  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 6:41 pm : link
In comment 16540904 Route 9 said:
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for blowing a 3-0 series lead, dirty ass team that they are



I have a sneaking suspicion that Edmonton is going to pull this off. I have no idea why. that's why it's a sneaking suspicion.

I hope I'm right. The Oilers seem way more relaxed and the Panthers just don't look right.


I feel the same. They've resorted to their undisciplined ways. I feel they'll tighten up quit a bit tonight butvI think Edmonton will win a close one. All bets will be off for game 7, a true tossup with the edge going to whoever scores first. Sticks will be held a lot tighter by whoever goes down early. Pressure is a great discriminator
FLA  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 6:48 pm : link
had not been playing as well as fans on here thought all playoffs. The big difference was Bobrovsky. He had a stretch where he was great.

The Panthers style of play is conducive to giving up odd-man rushes and they take a lot of penalties (if you push them even a little). So if Bobrovsky isn't great and...teams start capitalizing on the PP it changes everything.

That said, Bobrovsky can still turn it around and on the other side the Oilers don't exactly have Igor in net, so even if Bob is just Ok, FLA still could win a 6-5 game.

I do think they (FLA) still have the edge, but EDM winning the cup now should surprise no one.
EDM  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 8:35 pm : link
does what they need to and score 1st. What a pass by Draisaitl.
RE: EDM  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16541012 pjcas18 said:
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does what they need to and score 1st. What a pass by Draisaitl.


Perfect
McDavid JUST missed..  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 8:37 pm : link
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Ticky tak call.  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 8:38 pm : link
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Draisaitl  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 8:50 pm : link
with the cross ice tape to tape backhand pass. lol.

and draws the penalty.

big test early for FLA on the ensuing PP.
2 shots for FL in first...  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:01 pm : link
..wow...
RE: Draisaitl  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16541018 pjcas18 said:
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with the cross ice tape to tape backhand pass. lol.

and draws the penalty.

big test early for FLA on the ensuing PP.


That was also a soft call. They're keeping it honest
BOOOM!  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:18 pm : link
2-0!
Wow! 10 seconds later and FL responds  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:19 pm : link
2-1
Oh boy a challenge!  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:20 pm : link
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Wow...so close! Overturned  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:24 pm : link
Still 2-0
Terrible unforced turnover  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 9:42 pm : link
Leads to a FL PP...
Hyman  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 9:57 pm : link
off the blocked shot. 3-0.
Dare I say...  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 10:01 pm : link
Game 7 on tap!
Barkov  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 10:22 pm : link
is so good, makes it look easy.

If anyone can blow a 3-goal lead it's Skinner.
RE: Barkov  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16541045 pjcas18 said:
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is so good, makes it look easy.

If anyone can blow a 3-goal lead it's Skinner.


That looked TOO easy
RE: RE: Barkov  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 10:39 pm : link
In comment 16541047 rnargi said:
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In comment 16541045 pjcas18 said:


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is so good, makes it look easy.

If anyone can blow a 3-goal lead it's Skinner.



That looked TOO easy


Now FLA back to the box, and EDM to the PP up 2. 8:30 left.

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