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NFT: Hockey Thread: Stanley Cup Finals Start Tonight

pjcas18 : 6/8/2024 7:17 am
Edmonton Oilers @ Florida Panthers 8pm ET on ABC.

The Panthers are favored to win the series due to a well balanced team and a stout goalie, but the Oilers have the playoffs top 4 scorers and 5 of the top 7.

Florida's biggest weakness is their D are not very good defensively and due to their aggressive style they play in the offensive zone are prone to giving up odd-man rushes and they rely on their goalie (Bobrovsky) to bail them out. They also take a lot of penalties (generally speaking).

the Oilers are lethal on the power play (37.3% to lead the playoffs). The Oilers PK also leads the playoffs. They will need both to be at their best to win the series because their goalie (Skinner) has not been consistent (but was fantastic in the Dallas series).

This is Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's first SCF appearance and both have had stellar careers to this point, but post-season success has eluded them both and been a stain to an extent on their careers. The only stain.

Should be a fun series. The heavy forecheck and 200-foot game of Florida with Barkov, Tkachuck, Bennett, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, vs the speed and skill of Edmonton with McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, etc.

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FL undisciplined play bites them here  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 10:40 pm : link
What a bad time to take that penalty.
game  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2024 10:50 pm : link
7.
RE: game  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 10:50 pm : link
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7.


Woo hoo!
RE: RE: I like the 4 rounds of 7  
NYerInMA : 6/21/2024 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16540879 JohnF said:
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I think the MLB playoffs are too quick, honestly. With a best of 7 you really know which team is better.



LOL, so under that arrangement who is the first "Mr. Thanksgiving" ??


I'd shorten the regular season so the playoffs started in September.
EDM has come all the way back  
NYerInMA : 6/21/2024 10:51 pm : link
Hopefully they can finish it off on Monday.
RE: EDM has come all the way back  
rnargi : 6/21/2024 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16541057 NYerInMA said:
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Hopefully they can finish it off on Monday.


And so can FL. Game 7 in the SCF. Nothing better
first time since 1945  
RasputinPrime : 6/21/2024 11:34 pm : link
that a team has forced game 7 after dropping first three.

Let's go Oil!
Unbelievable  
Route 9 : 6/22/2024 12:01 am : link
Holy shit. We have a game 7.
SCF Game 7  
Rick in Dallas : 6/22/2024 12:05 am : link
Nothing better!!!
Oilers have the momentum for sure
Their PK has been outstanding
Plus 5v5 edge to Oilers also
Bobrovsky is going to have to stand on his head imv for Panthers to win.
You don't need a world glass goalie  
Gforce11 : 6/22/2024 12:30 am : link
Just need the guy to make timely saves when it matters. Game 7 is going to insane!
Rutger McGroarty's name is being tossed around as he may not  
Anakim : 6/22/2024 10:16 am : link
sign with Winnipeg.


Gotta think Drury will be interested
RE: RE: ......  
BrettNYG10 : 6/22/2024 10:51 am : link
In comment 16534850 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think the last sweep in the NHL finals was the Red Wings? 1998?



Correct.

I think FL sweeps.


You absolute fool.
I hope not but  
Route 9 : 6/22/2024 4:09 pm : link
Game 7 will be a boring blow out, and after that pjcas18 will have to call me Mr. Route 9 for a week.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2024 6:41 pm : link
Pulling hard for the Oilers.
What's with all these extra days off this series?  
NYerInMA : 6/23/2024 9:35 am : link
I hate it when the league drags a series out like this.
RE: What's with all these extra days off this series?  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2024 10:31 am : link
In comment 16541395 NYerInMA said:
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I hate it when the league drags a series out like this.


Same. I have mentioned this several times, I hate it too, it kills the flow IMO.

but on the plus side once the SC finals wrap up, just three more days until the draft.

Briere  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2024 12:09 pm : link
doing some work. Most of the expectations were PHI was taking a big gamble and Michkov wouldn't debut for years. All the teams who passed on him (besides CHI) may look foolish if he can deliver.

Kevin Kurz
@KKurzNHL
Can confirm from a team source the @ADiMarco25
report, that Matvei Michkov is leaving SKA and plans on joining the Flyers.
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RE: Briere  
BrettNYG10 : 6/23/2024 12:59 pm : link
In comment 16541448 pjcas18 said:
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doing some work. Most of the expectations were PHI was taking a big gamble and Michkov wouldn't debut for years. All the teams who passed on him (besides CHI) may look foolish if he can deliver.

Kevin Kurz
@KKurzNHL
Can confirm from a team source the @ADiMarco25
report, that Matvei Michkov is leaving SKA and plans on joining the Flyers.
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Montreal was dumb as shit for not taking him.
RE: RE: Briere  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16541468 BrettNYG10 said:
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doing some work. Most of the expectations were PHI was taking a big gamble and Michkov wouldn't debut for years. All the teams who passed on him (besides CHI) may look foolish if he can deliver.

Kevin Kurz
@KKurzNHL
Can confirm from a team source the @ADiMarco25
report, that Matvei Michkov is leaving SKA and plans on joining the Flyers.
11:48 AM · Jun 23, 2024
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Montreal was dumb as shit for not taking him.


Yeah. Even if he doesn't pan out, not exactly like they were in win-now mode and couldn't wait a couple years.
......  
Route 9 : 6/23/2024 2:53 pm : link
Who cares? Summer sucks. Well, this year will not matter lol no anticipation for the Giants, who will be absolute garbage.
5 of the greatest words in sports:  
Stu11 : 6/24/2024 12:38 pm : link
STANLEY CUP FINALS GAME SEVEN
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/24/2024 12:39 pm : link
I predict handshakes.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16541866 BrettNYG10 said:
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I predict handshakes.

If you get good odds you should bet on that.

Of course I'm traveling for work. not a huge deal, it's on ABC and I'm sure the hotel bar will have the game, but would be better to watch in the comfort of my home.,
I always watch the finals but with little anticipation or excitement  
rnargi : 6/24/2024 2:16 pm : link
This series has captivated me. We've seen both teams at their very best. It all comes down to who's adjustment works our tonight. Bob is the wild card. If he has one of those nights, where he's seemingly got plexiglass behind him, then edge to FL. I have a feeling tonight might be one of those nights. EDM must keep it close.
obviously in a big game the first goal is huge  
Stu11 : 6/24/2024 2:18 pm : link
tonight it is huuuuuuge though.
......  
Route 9 : 6/24/2024 3:22 pm : link
Edmonton wins 5-0
RE: Much to the dismay of Devils fans  
ColHowPepper : 6/24/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16537155 pjcas18 said:
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I have Roy and Hasek 1 and 1a all time of goalies I saw a lot of, so I omit goalies like Gump Worsley, Jacque Plante, Turk Broda, Terry Sawchuk, even Ken Dryden, Bernie Parent, Tony Esposito, etc. were too much before my time, you needed to be in your prime at the latest in the mid-80's for me to include you.
Brodeur is probably after those 2 for me.
My favorite goalie "moment" of all time other than Jim Craig in Miracle on Ice was the 1996 World Cup of Hockey. Mike Richter may have had the best performance I've seen a goalie have in any format, in any tournament.

I was away early in this SCF (nice post by rnargi having expunged more or less ECF) and saw this.
The evolution of the position in the NHL fascinates me. Of the keepers pj eliminates as before his time Dryden, followed by Parent and Esposito (relatively smaller in stature--Dryden was a complete outlier in his time, now he'd be 'normal' with the Bobs, Hellebucyks, etc. Athletic behemoths who can occlude much of the 6'x 4' just by squatting in their pads. (An aside, I was at the Rangers-Leafs SCP game in '71 when, after a scrum, Vic Hadfield picked up Parent's mask and flew it over the glass into the stands and the fans wouldn't throw it back; by the time his backup mask was brought from the dressing room they had, iirc.)
The others pj mentions in his disqualify category were physical specimens apart: Gump (whom I saw play a bunch, was a smallish, rolly polly teddy bear, with a modicum of athleticism), Plante was slender, maybe an avg. male of his time, Broda (remember him the least, sorta same), and Sawchuk was prolly the biggest, but nothing like today's netminders. Roy definitely fit within the quick, slender, lithe snakes with his arms. Hasek and Brodeur, hardly chunky iron men, born to their HOF breed.

That's why Igor, today, is such an outlier, because he harkens back to the quick, smallish, darting keeper, a vanishing breed. Quick may not be much bigger than Esposito. I haven't looked up any of these GK's heights/weights, all from memory.

Keeper of a flame for underdogs and throwbacks in time, I hope that Bob doesn't have it tonight.
Go Oilers!
As a Ranger fan back in the 60’s and early 70’s  
Rick in Dallas : 6/24/2024 5:21 pm : link
Eddie Giacomin was my fav goalie,
I loved watching him play in person and on TV.
Another smallish goalie probably less than 6’


I think Oilers have a huge advantage tonight in game 7.
EDM is favored  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 6:01 pm : link
but it's practically a pick 'em.

It's f-ing game 7 and it's hockey - no one is favored or has an advantage IMO. That said, pick 1 goalie on either team for this game and it's still Bobrovsky for me despite the shit show the last 3 games have been.

I'm just rooting for a non-blowout and OT.

Heroes are made in game 7's.

Also though I bet EDM to win the cup and McDavid and Barkov for Conn Smythe - so rooting for two of those to happen too, lol.

RE: I always watch the finals but with little anticipation or excitement  
HBart : 6/24/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16541933 rnargi said:
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This series has captivated me. We've seen both teams at their very best. It all comes down to who's adjustment works our tonight. Bob is the wild card. If he has one of those nights, where he's seemingly got plexiglass behind him, then edge to FL. I have a feeling tonight might be one of those nights. EDM must keep it close.

Agreed. I rarely watch if the Rangers are out, but this is a great series -- expecting a really entertaining game tonight.

If EDM manages a lead it's going to be torture for FL fans.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/24/2024 6:58 pm : link
I'm no Mr. NHL, but I'll be glued into tonight. I so want the Oilers to win. It'd be cool if Edmonton can comeback from a 3-0 deficit & McDavid is-I believe?-a generational talent & I'd like for him to win it all. One thing I did learn from this postseason is that there's a Sunshine, Florida...Haha. I had never even heard of that place until the postseason began & Googled where the Panthers play & that they're a suburb of Miami.
RE: ...  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16542063 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm no Mr. NHL, but I'll be glued into tonight. I so want the Oilers to win. It'd be cool if Edmonton can comeback from a 3-0 deficit & McDavid is-I believe?-a generational talent & I'd like for him to win it all. One thing I did learn from this postseason is that there's a Sunshine, Florida...Haha. I had never even heard of that place until the postseason began & Googled where the Panthers play & that they're a suburb of Miami.


Sunrise
pjcas.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/24/2024 7:01 pm : link
My bad, Haha.
RE: pjcas.  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 7:04 pm : link
In comment 16542070 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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My bad, Haha.


well that's how I learned it existed too, lol (because the Panthers arena is there)
RE: EDM is favored  
Rob in Rockaway : 6/24/2024 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16542033 pjcas18 said:
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but it's practically a pick 'em.

It's f-ing game 7 and it's hockey - no one is favored or has an advantage IMO. That said, pick 1 goalie on either team for this game and it's still Bobrovsky for me despite the shit show the last 3 games have been.

I'm just rooting for a non-blowout and OT.

Heroes are made in game 7's.

Also though I bet EDM to win the cup and McDavid and Barkov for Conn Smythe - so rooting for two of those to happen too, lol.


The afternoon guys on NHL Network think McDavid has the Conn Smythe locked up regardless of outcome tonight.
born in Edmonton  
RasputinPrime : 6/24/2024 8:00 pm : link
was around the OG boys as a kid. On the ice with my dad when they won their first cup. Dad passed soon after.

I'm a dad with a 6 year old that is giddy for hockey.

I can't wait for the puck to drop.

Game 7. Let's Go!
RE: born in Edmonton  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16542105 RasputinPrime said:
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was around the OG boys as a kid. On the ice with my dad when they won their first cup. Dad passed soon after.

I'm a dad with a 6 year old that is giddy for hockey.

I can't wait for the puck to drop.

Game 7. Let's Go!


Good luck, bud.
Good luck, RP!  
BrettNYG10 : 6/24/2024 8:13 pm : link
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FLA  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 8:34 pm : link
D - live by the forecheck die by the forecheck.

NYR and BOS couldn't make them pay.

tie game, great pace.
What a start.  
rnargi : 6/24/2024 8:37 pm : link
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Skinner  
ColHowPepper : 6/24/2024 8:57 pm : link
does not seem to be seeing, picking up the puck well
Good period for Panthers  
Rick in Dallas : 6/24/2024 9:00 pm : link
Playing their game
McDavid quite first period
Ya gotta love SCF game 7 intensity
RE: Good period for Panthers  
rnargi : 6/24/2024 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16542136 Rick in Dallas said:
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Playing their game
McDavid quite first period
Ya gotta love SCF game 7 intensity


Agreed. Quickly established physicality which led to their forcheck being effective in a sustained manner for the first time since early in game 3. Edm has to find a way to break it, either by being more aggressive off the boards and out of the corners or making the forecheckers pay with big hits.
Looks like good Bob has showed up so far  
rnargi : 6/24/2024 9:27 pm : link
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Go Oilers!  
Optimus-NY : 6/24/2024 9:30 pm : link
It'll be hilarious to see the dirty @$$ Panthers choke and lose the series at home in Game 7 after having been up 3-0. Would be even funnier if they lose in OT, haha.
Here's a link to the game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/24/2024 9:37 pm : link
Click below and enjoy 🙂

Stanley Cup Finals - Game 7 - Edmonton Oilers @ Florida Panthers on ABC/ESPN - 8 pm ET start - ( New Window )
RE: born in Edmonton  
Optimus-NY : 6/24/2024 9:39 pm : link
In comment 16542105 RasputinPrime said:
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was around the OG boys as a kid. On the ice with my dad when they won their first cup. Dad passed soon after.

I'm a dad with a 6 year old that is giddy for hockey.

I can't wait for the puck to drop.

Game 7. Let's Go!


It's safe to say all Rangers fans are with you!
Wow  
RCPhoenix : 6/24/2024 9:42 pm : link
That was an incredible 5 minutes of hockey
Backed  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2024 9:43 pm : link
Right into their goalie. Wtf
RE: Wow  
rnargi : 6/24/2024 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16542151 RCPhoenix said:
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That was an incredible 5 minutes of hockey


Wow...I knew they were gonna score there. All EDN there and FL pots one.
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