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NFT: ⚾Mets vs Phillies Series in London⚾ Gm 1 - 1:10 pm ET start⚾

Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 12:32 pm
We're trying another series thread since people like them. We'll consolidate our chat for these two games and the off-day on Monday here before the Mets return home on Tuesday to play the last-place Marlins. For those of you on the East Coast, enjoy these two early games--especially tomorrow's.
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Mets vs. Phillies: Game 1 –⚾Manaea (L) vs. Suárez (L)⚾– 1:10 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games today & tomorrow in London against the Phillies.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Both games of this 2-game set will be televised exclusively on national television. Today’s game will be on FOX and tomorrow’s will be on ESPN.
-The weather forecast for today's game at London Stadium looks decent. Click HERE to keep updated and see Hourly AccuWeather Reports for there.
-There is a five-hour time difference between New York and London, with London being 5 hours ahead. The Mets flew to London from D.C. after the game three days ago against the Nationals, so they’ve had some time to adjust to the time difference they’re facing. The Mets are half a game behind the Nats going into today and have a game in hand on them, so if the Mets win today, they’ll be tied for third place. The Phillies continue to have the best record in all of MLB, so the Mets have their hands full again with them today & tomorrow.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Nido (R), Taylor (R), McNeil (L), & Stewart (L).
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Check out the Minor League thread for June below:  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 12:32 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Here are a couple of useful financial websites:  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 12:33 pm : link
Cot's Baseball Contracts - A Clearinghouse for MLB Salary and Payroll details


RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
I believe Baty  
allstarjim : 6/8/2024 12:44 pm : link
Is the 27th man available off the bench for this series.

Suarez is having a phenomenal year that I didn't see coming at all, but Vientos crushes lefties, so I'm hoping for a Big Ben-sized homer today for MV.

#LGM
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 1:00 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Phillies | 1:10 pm EDT start - June 8, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National TV feed – FOX (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Phillies – June 8, 2024 - 1:10 pm EDT start


Note: The Mets are the designated home team today, but the Phillies will be the designated home team tomorrow.


Enjoy today's game 😊

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pjcas18 : 6/8/2024 1:11 pm : link
Looks like the Mets have found their new permanent leadoff man.  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 1:22 pm : link
Lindor is balling there.
No pitching  
Earl the goat : 6/8/2024 2:13 pm : link
Even across the pond
2 opportunities for  
JayBinQueens : 6/8/2024 2:15 pm : link
The OF to get out of the inning (nimmo in woul territory and Marte on the rbi single) and both pull up vs going for it.
This inning is just a  
Rob in Rockaway : 6/8/2024 2:20 pm : link
black hole sucking all possible hope in
Marte seems to give up  
X : 6/8/2024 2:41 pm : link
on many shallow fly balls
RE: Marte seems to give up  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2024 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16533066 X said:
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on many shallow fly balls


I've noticed that too.
Manaea with back to back horrible starts.  
CooperDash : 6/8/2024 3:53 pm : link
Really takes the team out of games. Tough to get any type of steam going with so many ineffective players.

Philly is a great example of a team that signs or trades for star players that actually produce the way they should. Or even improve. Must be nice.
The biggest difference i see is The Phillies  
Rory : 6/8/2024 4:21 pm : link
Have a dependable leader they can always rely on on both sides of the ball. Nola and Harper. That takes so much pressure off everyone else.

Also lets younger players feel more
Comfortable which helps development.

Mets are relying on their younger players to dig them out of the holes they dug.
Mets vs. Phillies: Game 2 –⚾Quintana (L) vs. Walker (R)⚾– 10:10 am EDT  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 9:38 am : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the game today in London against the Phillies & after tomorrow in Flushing against the Marlins.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised exclusively on national television on ESPN and the game on Tuesday will be back on SNY.
-The weather forecast for today's game at London Stadium looks decent again. Click HERE to keep updated and see Hourly AccuWeather Reports for there. There is a five-hour time difference between New York and London, with London being 5 hours ahead, so this game will start at 3 pm London time.
-The Mets continue to struggle against the Phillies so far this season. They’ve lost 4 out of 5 games against them to date in 2024. Brett Baty traveled to London with the team serving as the 27th man and is starting today at 3B before returning to Triple-A Syracuse on Tuesday. Mets’ owner Steve Cohen spoke prior to the second game in London. Lindor continues to be hot with the bat and J.D. Martinez is 7 for 15 in his career against former Met Taijuan Walker.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Nido (R), Vientos (R), Marte (R), & Iglesias (R).
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 10:04 am : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Phillies | 10:10 am EDT start - June 9, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National TV feed – ESPN (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Phillies – June 9, 2024 - 10:10 am EDT start

Enjoy today's game 😊

Megill, Peterson, and Severino were just posted as the starters for  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 10:12 am : link
the three-game series against the Marlins at Citi Field starting on Tuesday.
DJ Stewart...  
dannysection 313 : 6/9/2024 10:33 am : link
Maybe he's the best teammate in the world?

But, why is he still on the team?

Give the AB's the Baty....
RE: DJ Stewart...  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 11:08 am : link
In comment 16533306 dannysection 313 said:
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Maybe he's the best teammate in the world?

But, why is he still on the team?

Give the AB's the Baty....


Hiya Danny! Hope all's well. I think the team's gonna get reconfigured again come the trade deadline on July 30th. The problem is this: there simply aren't enough at-bats to go around. Let Baty cook at Syracuse until the trade deadline. Who knows? After that we might not have Martinez, Marte, Bader, McNeil, or even Alonso from amongst the position player group. Something has to give. I don't see these losers upping their game enough in the next 5 or 6 weeks to stop another sell-off.
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GF1080 : 6/9/2024 11:15 am : link
How did Torrens miss that. Ugh.
RE: RE: DJ Stewart...  
dannysection 313 : 6/9/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16533315 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16533306 dannysection 313 said:


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Maybe he's the best teammate in the world?

But, why is he still on the team?

Give the AB's the Baty....



Hiya Danny! Hope all's well. I think the team's gonna get reconfigured again come the trade deadline on July 30th. The problem is this: there simply aren't enough at-bats to go around. Let Baty cook at Syracuse until the trade deadline. Who knows? After that we might not have Martinez, Marte, Bader, McNeil, or even Alonso from amongst the position player group. Something has to give. I don't see these losers upping their game enough in the next 5 or 6 weeks to stop another sell-off.


Totally agree...and picking on DJ Stewart may be a bit silly considering all the challenges this team faces, but he's beginning to remind me of one D. Vogelbach in terms of usefulness, or lack thereof.

Hope you are well, Optimus! I just had a total knee replacement a couple of weeks ago, so both the Mets and my knee bring me pain on a daily basis!

Yes, this team will hardly be recognizable after the trade deadline.....let the kids play!

RE: RE: RE: DJ Stewart...  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 11:42 am : link
In comment 16533317 dannysection 313 said:
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In comment 16533306 dannysection 313 said:


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Maybe he's the best teammate in the world?

But, why is he still on the team?

Give the AB's the Baty....



Hiya Danny! Hope all's well. I think the team's gonna get reconfigured again come the trade deadline on July 30th. The problem is this: there simply aren't enough at-bats to go around. Let Baty cook at Syracuse until the trade deadline. Who knows? After that we might not have Martinez, Marte, Bader, McNeil, or even Alonso from amongst the position player group. Something has to give. I don't see these losers upping their game enough in the next 5 or 6 weeks to stop another sell-off.



Totally agree...and picking on DJ Stewart may be a bit silly considering all the challenges this team faces, but he's beginning to remind me of one D. Vogelbach in terms of usefulness, or lack thereof.

Hope you are well, Optimus! I just had a total knee replacement a couple of weeks ago, so both the Mets and my knee bring me pain on a daily basis!

Yes, this team will hardly be recognizable after the trade deadline.....let the kids play!


Oh man. That's tough to hear about (the knee replacement). Try and hang in there and get your rest Danny. I have a buddy who has knee problems. It's no walk in the park. I had Covid-like symptoms not too long after getting pneumonia. I've got GERD too---acid reflux. That and slightly high BP are doing a number on me, so I understand where you're coming from. It's probably all related. Anywho man, just take care of yourself more than anything else.

As far as Stewart is concerned, he's definitely just a JAG. This team is made up of weird mismatched parts. Baty has options and needed to go somewhere where he could continue to play consistently. His defense is excellent compared to last year, but his bat is totally whack. Let him get some PT at Syracuse consistently until the trade deadline. Vientos did his time to start the year there, now it's Baty's turn.

Besides, Baty didn't log much time in Triple-A, so let him go there for a couple of months and work on launching the ball and tasting success again for a change. He ain't cuttin' it at the plate in the Bigs now. Use those options while you can. As far as Stew is concerned, he's only up in the Bigs because of the way the roster's configured. He'll be shoved out of the way when the cavalry arrives in the form of Drew Gilbert and whoever they possibly trade for or sign in 2025.

Ultimately, this team is headed for a roster crunch. We've got Mauricio coming back next year in addition to Acuna and Gilbert being ready in 2025 as well. Guys like Marte & McNeil might need to be dealt just so those guys can have spots to play. Additionally, we've got a WAVE of starting pitchers ready to rock n' roll. Scott's already ready, then factor in guys like Vasil and Hamel along with Sproat, Tidwell, and Stewart right behind them. Something has to be done with the surplus trade-wise. Personally, the guy I'd try and trade for is Jesús Luzardo with the Marlins. I'm expecting to see a LOT of changes between late July and through the 2025 offseason into the 2026 season.
I think the Mets are oldest team in MLB in 2024.  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 11:55 am : link
Can anyone conform that or am I wrong? If true, then that's another bullet point to focus on. This team HAS to get younger, not just for luxury tax purposes in order to avoid competitive balance penalties, but so that these old farts can get phased out.

Guys that stand out age-wise are Quintana ( FA after the season), Marte (FA after 2025), Ottavino (FA after the season), Raley (FA after the season). These are guys who are tending downward in terms of age, injury, subpar performance, and high salaries. None of them have won before and are just better off gone.
ESPN says the Mets are the oldest  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2024 12:02 pm : link
but I'm going to look for another source.

Somehow ESPN says the Marlins oldest player is 76 years old and the Cardinals is 66 years old. Seems off, lol. Or I'm misreading it.

All  
GF1080 : 6/9/2024 12:02 pm : link
Tied up!
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Named Later : 6/9/2024 12:04 pm : link
I wonder how Baty would perform in the OF ?? Has he had any playing time in a corner outfield spot ?? Is he better suited as a LF, playing off his 3B instincts ? Or RF in place of Marte ?

And just for my own curiosity -- would his Hot Corner quick reactions translate to 1B, in case Pete does get traded ??
RE: ESPN says the Mets are the oldest  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 12:11 pm : link
In comment 16533331 pjcas18 said:
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but I'm going to look for another source.

Somehow ESPN says the Marlins oldest player is 76 years old and the Cardinals is 66 years old. Seems off, lol. Or I'm misreading it.



Thanks pjacs! I just saw it and looked up the link. You ain't wrong.


Major League Rosters - 2024 - ESPN Stats - ( New Window )
RE: ..  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 12:12 pm : link
In comment 16533335 Named Later said:
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I wonder how Baty would perform in the OF ?? Has he had any playing time in a corner outfield spot ?? Is he better suited as a LF, playing off his 3B instincts ? Or RF in place of Marte ?

And just for my own curiosity -- would his Hot Corner quick reactions translate to 1B, in case Pete does get traded ??


He'd be better off in LF. He played some there in the minors. Maybe that's something he can do while back down at Cuse in the next two months or so?
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Named Later : 6/9/2024 12:38 pm : link
That ESPN League-wide roster analysis has a big time typo for the Marlins and Cards.

If you go to the original list and click on the team specific link, you will not find any Senior Citizens playing for those teams.
Didn't  
JayBinQueens : 6/9/2024 1:03 pm : link
Realize it was a 10am start.

Oh well
Pretty sure  
JayBinQueens : 6/9/2024 1:06 pm : link
Michael Kay just said "big hit by O'neil" instead of Mcneil
RE: Pretty sure  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:13 pm : link
In comment 16533349 JayBinQueens said:
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Michael Kay just said "big hit by O'neil" instead of Mcneil


He did. Guy's a hack. 90s Prisonstriper flashbacks for him.
Yikes, Pete took a 100mph heater to the meat of the thigh.  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:19 pm : link
That’s gonna leave a mark, lol. At least it was for the lead!
RE: RE: Pretty sure  
JayBinQueens : 6/9/2024 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16533350 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16533349 JayBinQueens said:


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Michael Kay just said "big hit by O'neil" instead of Mcneil



He did. Guy's a hack. 90s Prisonstriper flashbacks for him.


He also just said "here comes Vientos" after he was taken out 2 batters ago for a punch runner
What the hell is Nimmo looking for with that pitch  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:20 pm : link
Just swing the damn bat. Such a soft team.
Kay is awful.  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:24 pm : link
Said the Mets put up a 4-spot in the Top of the ninth (when they scored 3 not 4) as the inning ended. It's nice having friends in high places, ain't it?
We are spoiled watching Gary, Keith, and Ron.  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:25 pm : link
Garrett worries me closing this.
The Mets inability to capitalize on the bottom of the ninth  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:27 pm : link
could come back to haunt them. Hopefully not.
Not comfortable at all with Smith pitching  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:32 pm : link
(And I was typing this as he promptly gives up a hit to Harper).
Phillies sicken me.  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:32 pm : link
Thanks a lot Garrett and Smith. Still not too late for Smith here though.
RE: Not comfortable at all with Smith pitching  
Mike in NY : 6/9/2024 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16533369 CooperDash said:
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(And I was typing this as he promptly gives up a hit to Harper).


It's not like they have a bunch of options when their starters pitch duds on consecutive days
RE: Phillies sicken me.  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16533370 Optimus-NY said:
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Thanks a lot Garrett and Smith. Still not too late for Smith here though.


It’s not the Phillies that should sicken you…it’s this soft Mets team that should grind your gears. The Mets are handing the game to them.
RE: RE: Not comfortable at all with Smith pitching  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:35 pm : link
In comment 16533372 Mike in NY said:
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(And I was typing this as he promptly gives up a hit to Harper).



It's not like they have a bunch of options when their starters pitch duds on consecutive days


Drew Smith ran his course here a while ago - that’s the point.
Leadership?  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:35 pm : link
LOL at the BSPN broadcast booth. The Mets have none.
Lucky fuckers  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:37 pm : link
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Bang! Bang!  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:38 pm : link
Nice DP to end this!!!
What a way to end it. Great dp!  
Ira : 6/9/2024 1:39 pm : link
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Both games ended with broken bat swings yesterday and today  
CooperDash : 6/9/2024 1:39 pm : link
Pretty crazy
I'll  
GF1080 : 6/9/2024 1:40 pm : link
Take that!!

Great play by Torrens.
2-3 double play!  
BocaGene : 6/9/2024 1:44 pm : link
Don't see many of those.
Put it in the books :-)  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2024 1:45 pm : link

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