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NFT: Dodgers v Yankees

GruningsOnTheHill : 6/8/2024 7:56 pm
0-0 after 1 inning.

Yankees can't capitalize on 1st & 2nd, 0 outs.
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Batting Stanton & Rizzo behind Judge  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/8/2024 7:57 pm : link
is a recipe for disaster
Rizzo is lost  
Stu11 : 6/8/2024 8:03 pm : link
He's nothing more than a lefty slap hitter at this point. He can barely get around on a slider.
Dominguez now batting .429 in AAA after a homer and double  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/8/2024 8:06 pm : link
tonight.
Why the fuck is Kike Hernandez destroying us?  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 8:56 pm : link
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Enrique fucking Hernandez  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2024 9:00 pm : link
Come the hell on, Nestor
Judge is up again soon.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:02 pm : link
Maybe we can score another run. A brief return to 2022 these past couple days.
RE: Why the fuck is Kike Hernandez destroying us?  
BigBlueShock : 6/8/2024 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16533163 bceagle05 said:
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Literally one of the worst hitters in baseball and they can’t get the scrub ass out this series. Infuriating
I can’t watch another second of Grisham  
BigBlueShock : 6/8/2024 9:04 pm : link
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By the way as pathetic as it is for an adult to bring a glove  
Stu11 : 6/8/2024 9:05 pm : link
To a game, if you drop a ball with one like that jamoke did on Judge's HR you should be banned from ballparks for life.
Soto  
GruningsOnTheHill : 6/8/2024 9:09 pm : link
The whole dynamic of the lineup changes with him out. Just as someone said last night, it's like watching Judge surrounded by a bunch of #9 hitters.

Grisham sucks. I guess they had to take the contract as part of the Soto deal, but how long can a guy batting .080 be taking up a roster spot?
Walk Judge, get yourself out of a jam.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:10 pm : link
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Nestor sure has fallen quite a bit since 2022.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 9:11 pm : link
He's not awful or anything, but nowhere quite near what he was in the past.

And yes, this entire offense is nowhere near the same without Soto. Like, not even close.
That was a pretty good rip by Stanto  
shyster : 6/8/2024 9:15 pm : link
398 ft, 101.8 EV on 97MPH fastball down and in.

But he had to uppercut to get to it; too much air.
Orioles finally have some tough teams coming up on their schedule.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:19 pm : link
Braves-Phillies-Yankees-Astros-Guardians-Rangers-Mariners.
Weak grounder for Rizzo, lazy fly ball for Gleyber.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:28 pm : link
Rinse and repeat. At least they suck defensively too.
That's probably the end of this one  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 9:28 pm : link
with the state of this offense without Soto. This offense is pretty much the same as last year's without Soto. And let's be honest, Rizzo and DJ are looking quite old and toasty. I'll give DJ some time because he just came back, but the early results are not promising for him.

Also, I don't really trust Nestor at all anymore to do anything but give us a quite mediocre start, sometimes a good start mixed in every once in awhile. Too bad, he was fucking great a couple years ago.
Please Trent Grisham…  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/8/2024 9:31 pm : link
Run into one
Wow Grisham walked on four pitches.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:31 pm : link
Bases loaded for Volpe, two outs.
He walked.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/8/2024 9:35 pm : link
Lets go Volpe.
No one in the lineup is the same without Soto.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 9:38 pm : link
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Well Men...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 6/8/2024 9:43 pm : link
Getting late early.
Well we did just have stretch where we won just about every day for 3  
Stu11 : 6/8/2024 9:45 pm : link
Weeks. There's gonna be a back side to that Soto or no Soto.
Two lazy fly balls and a K  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 9:56 pm : link
for the heart of the order in the seventh.
Lineup lacks teeth without Soto  
PetesHereNow : 6/8/2024 9:58 pm : link
Hopefully Hal sees how important he is, and he gets his good fountain pen and checkbook ready.
Soto's value jumped even higher with this injury.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 9:58 pm : link
His presence means pretty much everything to this lineup. No way Hal lets him go after these performances by the offense without him.
Gleyber being Gleyber.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 10:02 pm : link
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We also need more offense from 1B and 3B  
PetesHereNow : 6/8/2024 10:04 pm : link
Rizzo looks absolutely awful. Kinda reminiscent of what Justin Morneau looked like after a severe concussion.

I have a little more hope for LeMahieu, but he's on the wrong side of 30 and he's not getting any younger.

I'd see if I could chisel Ryan McMahon from COL if we could.

There's Gleyber nonchalant on another ground ball. Gotta get at least 1 out on that grounder, and I realize the hop wasn't ideal, but you are a major leaguer.

Ballgame over.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2024 10:14 pm : link
Gleyber opens the floodgates. Hope we can salvage one tomorrow.
really glad this series is happening now  
RasputinPrime : 6/8/2024 10:15 pm : link
really hope the beancounters are paying attention.
Yep, can't give away outs vs. good teams  
PetesHereNow : 6/8/2024 10:17 pm : link
He's done it twice in a row the last 2 nights. And it's not like his bat isn't anything that great that it can't be replaced.

You can probably get the same production out of Jorbit Vivas at a fraction of the cost of what Gleyber is going to want in free agency.
The rise and fall of Gleyber Torres  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 10:19 pm : link
will be studied years from now. My God, how this guy has fallen.
RE: Yep, can't give away outs vs. good teams  
PetesHereNow : 6/8/2024 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16533225 PetesHereNow said:
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He's done it twice in a row the last 2 nights. And it's not like his bat isn't anything that great that it can't be replaced.

You can probably get the same production out of Jorbit Vivas at a fraction of the cost of what Gleyber is going to want in free agency.


Never mind about Vivas, he's on the struggle bus at AAA, I didn't know that, but the point remains. Gleyber hasn't progressed to the point where he's going to deserve the $$$ he waants.
RE: really glad this series is happening now  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2024 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16533224 RasputinPrime said:
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really hope the beancounters are paying attention.


Oh, you can bet your ass Hal is realizing what this offense is without Soto. You can what you want about the guy (and I have); but he's no dummy. This injury and performance by the offense all but solidified Soto will be in pinstripes for the rest of his career.
As Ohtani's grounder was bouncing to Torres  
shyster : 6/9/2024 5:10 am : link
I'm doubting whether he's going to come up with it. And if I'm at that point, he's doubting himself, which is self-fulfilling.

He's in a hole that isn't going to be easy to get out of.
Booted double-play leads to blowout  
GruningsOnTheHill : 6/9/2024 5:47 am : link
There are going to be ebbs and flows over the long season and it's tough to get down on a team that had just won 8 in a row.

That said, they will need new 1B/2B/3B going forward. I've taken heat for saying this in the past, but Torres is the Gary Sanchez of second-basemen; he shouldn't be re-signed. Whether it's concussion-related or decline due to age, something is clearly not right with Rizzo both with the errors in the field and his bad at-bats where he invariably rolls over weak grounders to the right side. The days of DJLM hitting .300 are gone.

I get that the Yankees have a logjam in the OF and the Martian needs to get regular at-bats, but they can't let him languish in the minors; they need to get him into the lineup one way or another. The Grisham era has to end.
Yes, there are times that  
section125 : 6/9/2024 6:33 am : link
occur in the season that expose a team's weaknesses. We knew they need at least two competent BP arms.

It appears Rizzo is declining in front of our eyes. Being Judge's best friend will be an issue for Cashman to deal with.

DJLM started two years ago. He needs more time to acclimate and may still be able to get in the .280 range.

Torres has been on a slow slide for the past two years. But this year the pressure of a new contract is exposing the decline. He was always good for a few poor fielding days, but they are much more frequent now along with this likely being his worst season at the plate.

In a sense the Dodgers got lucky with the rotation alignment and Soto injury. Cortes is and has been their weakest starter all year. Can probably rationalize he is a #5 and would likely be a VG BP option when Cole returns(well until the Schmidt injury).
RE: Yes, there are times that  
5BowlsSoon : 6/9/2024 7:22 am : link
In comment 16533256 section125 said:
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occur in the season that expose a team's weaknesses. We knew they need at least two competent BP arms.

It appears Rizzo is declining in front of our eyes. Being Judge's best friend will be an issue for Cashman to deal with.

DJLM started two years ago. He needs more time to acclimate and may still be able to get in the .280 range.

Torres has been on a slow slide for the past two years. But this year the pressure of a new contract is exposing the decline. He was always good for a few poor fielding days, but they are much more frequent now along with this likely being his worst season at the plate.

In a sense the Dodgers got lucky with the rotation alignment and Soto injury. Cortes is and has been their weakest starter all year. Can probably rationalize he is a #5 and would likely be a VG BP option when Cole returns(well until the Schmidt injury).


Good observation 125.

And the Yankees got the short end of the SP rotation by getting LA’s top 3…with Paxton and Buehler being 4 and 5 this year. I guess when Kershaw comes back and is healthy, Paxton probably rotates to the bullpen.
Had to hightail out of there after the grand slam, set up  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/9/2024 7:28 am : link
by our beloved Torres, amidst Let’s Go Dodgers chants. Tried to teach Hal a lesson by not paying for any souvenirs but I see he circumvented that by selling Ohtani jerseys. If that imbecile continues to complain about 300M payrolls, I am going to lose it. If your entire roster is hinged on a 35M player in line for 60M next year, how about doing something about it?

Did Boone try to defend Torres last night? Is that how Torres always tries to field grounders? By booting it? I’ve seen weaker grounders than Rizzo’s during my morning little league games.

Remember, Gil wasn’t making the team until Cole got hurt. Whoever eventually replacing Rizzo and Torres won’t be up until something happens to them. They are always reactionary and one step too late. Let’s see what happens with Dominguez. The next few weeks will be tough, I anticipate some rough waters and then the youngsters will come up to inject some life.

Fix Peraza now, so he can come take Torres’ job. If he doesn’t want it, let’s give Vivas or Durbin a chance. Heck I rather see Cabrera there. And let’s not waste Rice at C, bring him up after a couple of more weeks at AAA. Knowing you have Wells above and Ramirez after him, why would you waste half a year of a 25 yo’s development in AA and at catcher?
RE: By the way as pathetic as it is for an adult to bring a glove  
Sec 103 : 6/9/2024 10:51 am : link
In comment 16533172 Stu11 said:
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To a game, if you drop a ball with one like that jamoke did on Judge's HR you should be banned from ballparks for life.


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RE: RE: By the way as pathetic as it is for an adult to bring a glove  
section125 : 6/9/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16533313 Sec 103 said:
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To a game, if you drop a ball with one like that jamoke did on Judge's HR you should be banned from ballparks for life.



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People being "triggered" by someone bringing a glove to a baseball game is borderline pathetic...what's next banning drinking beer and eating hotdogs - well ok ban if they put ketchup on the hotdog, then it is ok.
RE: RE: RE: By the way as pathetic as it is for an adult to bring a glove  
Stu11 : 6/9/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16533321 section125 said:
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To a game, if you drop a ball with one like that jamoke did on Judge's HR you should be banned from ballparks for life.



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People being "triggered" by someone bringing a glove to a baseball game is borderline pathetic...what's next banning drinking beer and eating hotdogs - well ok ban if they put ketchup on the hotdog, then it is ok.

True. Maybe the dude should have worn his little league uniform to the game too.
RE: RE: RE: RE: By the way as pathetic as it is for an adult to bring a glove  
section125 : 6/9/2024 12:02 pm : link
In comment 16533323 Stu11 said:
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To a game, if you drop a ball with one like that jamoke did on Judge's HR you should be banned from ballparks for life.



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People being "triggered" by someone bringing a glove to a baseball game is borderline pathetic...what's next banning drinking beer and eating hotdogs - well ok ban if they put ketchup on the hotdog, then it is ok.


True. Maybe the dude should have worn his little league uniform to the game too.


It really bothers you??? Send Hal a letter.

I think Gerrit Cole's rehab game  
CasualFan : 6/9/2024 12:22 pm : link
is on Yes this afternoon. Some pretty good players to check out
Dominguez with a single in his first AB today  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/9/2024 1:27 pm : link
now batting .438 in AAA
RE: Dominguez with a single in his first AB today  
section125 : 6/9/2024 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16533366 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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now batting .438 in AAA


Geezus, I did not think they would bring him up because of the OF congestion until late. Now I think there is no way they can't bring him up once his rehab at SWB is completed.
Mr. Grisham DFA'd in the future unless a small trade can be made.
Absurd #s
RE: Dominguez with a single in his first AB today  
bceagle05 : 6/9/2024 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16533366 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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now batting .438 in AAA

Pretty clear he’s not a minor league player anymore. Not much to be gained from a developmental standpoint to have him tee off on AAA pitching - just finish off he’s rehab and get him to the Bronx.
the Martian  
RasputinPrime : 6/9/2024 1:46 pm : link
landed last year. This series has made several things clear about the composition of the lineup.

I hate to sell low with Torres but he and Rizzo aren't showing up this season
Where  
mitch300 : 6/9/2024 1:46 pm : link
Is he going to play. They are not going to bring him up to sit on the bench.
Another Spencer Jones home run  
CasualFan : 6/9/2024 1:49 pm : link
The guy is on a roll. Cole looks a bit rusty but still not bad.
RE: Where  
section125 : 6/9/2024 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16533393 mitch300 said:
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Is he going to play. They are not going to bring him up to sit on the bench.


That was my argument, but how do you not bring him up? Boone will have to find room. (Yeah, good luck)
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