In this spot. It very well might be the game. Is he injured worse than the Yankees are letting on?
They are letting him rest. Only way that heals is by rest. They are not worried early June, they are worried about September and October.
This thought process has to go. Let’s see how not caring about June works out when they are playing in the damn wild card round again needing to win a 3 game series while deploying your best pitchers to do it. I hate to tell you, June games count as much as September games. How’s the whole “ we only care about October!” mindset been working out for them? Worry about September and October in September and October
Yeah and when Soto is sitting out 15 or 30 days with tendentious you'll be crying that they should have allowed it to heal.
Could have sworn that ball hit Volpe's forearm no?
In this spot. It very well might be the game. Is he injured worse than the Yankees are letting on?
They are letting him rest. Only way that heals is by rest. They are not worried early June, they are worried about September and October.
This thought process has to go. Let’s see how not caring about June works out when they are playing in the damn wild card round again needing to win a 3 game series while deploying your best pitchers to do it. I hate to tell you, June games count as much as September games. How’s the whole “ we only care about October!” mindset been working out for them? Worry about September and October in September and October
Yeah and when Soto is sitting out 15 or 30 days with tendentious you'll be crying that they should have allowed it to heal.
Bullshit. You’re crying to keep him out for no reason whatsoever. What report have you seen the past day or two makes you think this is a long term injury? I’ll clue you in, there isn’t one. Soto himself said that the injury didn’t affect him at all on the field. Resting him out of paranoia in anticipation of being healthy “in October” is laughable. Maybe just rest him the rest of the season just to be safe?
Bullshit. You’re crying to keep him out for no reason whatsoever. What report have you seen the past day or two makes you think this is a long term injury? I’ll clue you in, there isn’t one. Soto himself said that the injury didn’t affect him at all on the field. Resting him out of paranoia in anticipation of being healthy “in October” is laughable. Maybe just rest him the rest of the season just to be safe?
Funny thing about smallish injuries/soft tissue - they get worse. It is not bad now. But if they don't rest it now, it gets more inflamed and then it tears. Injuries do not just disappear without treatment and forearm injuries can lead to UCL tears.
How stupid do you think the med staff is? You think they are sitting him to let the Dodgers win?
Freeman vs Judge, Soto and Volpe, I don't think it's a slam dunk people outside of NY choose Soto over Betts. And if you include Ohtani's pitching.....
I'd imagine people who grew up idolizing Mickey felt the same way we all feel about Judge now. He absolutely can't go through his prime without a couple of championships. Say what you want about fans like me complaining, put yourself in his shoes. For me Judge is better than Mattingly and still has a few prime years left. I don't know how you can not feel the urgency for him.
We all love Verdugo's grit, but he cannot be the reason Dominguez
Against LHP, he sits and Dominguez plays LF.
Against RHP, Stanton sits and Dominguez DH's. You can throw a bone or two to Stanton against junk baller righties if you want.
Freeman vs Judge, Soto and Volpe, I don't think it's a slam dunk people outside of NY choose Soto over Betts. And if you include Ohtani's pitching.....
I'd imagine people who grew up idolizing Mickey felt the same way we all feel about Judge now. He absolutely can't go through his prime without a couple of championships. Say what you want about fans like me complaining, put yourself in his shoes. For me Judge is better than Mattingly and still has a few prime years left. I don't know how you can not feel the urgency for him.
You can compare it however you want, but Betts and Volpe are the shortstops. That is the way I chose to compare.
Think it was probably if you had your choice of either groups, who would you take. I took that approach.
That one was big psychogically. You can't let the Dodgers waltz in here and sweep you Soto or no Soto. It will be interesting going forward to see if they address a corner bat. Rizzo can't have an endless rope.
AB right before he hit the HR. You can feel the love affair that the fans and Soto have with eachother. It's pretty fantastic.
Per Bryan hoch, Judge was not to happy.
Can't blame the fans for wanting Soto, but absolutely can see Judge being "embarrassed" for Grisham. We also have to know it is doubtful Grisham is with the Yanks later this year. And a it was a huge response by him to crush that ball.
and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
RE: Judge wasn't happy because he's an amazing leader
and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
that he expects Soto to return during this series with the Royals. Wouldn't expect it to be today, but tomorrow or Wednesday since he said "this series" and not "tomorrow."
RE: RE: Judge wasn't happy because he's an amazing leader
and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
he's been historically unbelievable.
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
RE: Judge wasn't happy because he's an amazing leader
and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
Exactly. No issue with Judge sticking up for his teammate after the game, that’s what a captain and leader should do
Chants for Soto aside, hats off to Grisham for delivering a monster HR to help avert the sweep last night. That reminded me a bit of 98…bench guys who didn’t get much playing time often came through in a pinch
RE: RE: RE: Judge wasn't happy because he's an amazing leader
and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
he's been historically unbelievable.
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
he has. he was on his way to 50+ HRs, 1.000 OPS+ last year too until the accident at Dodger Stadium. Negligent assholes there cost him the season.
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
That was me. Judge has had 4-5 months similar to this. However, never for this long a period. In the past, these kind of streaks for him were around 25 games. This one is past 40 games now.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Judge wasn't happy because he's an amazing leader
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
That was me. Judge has had 4-5 months similar to this. However, never for this long a period. In the past, these kind of streaks for him were around 25 games. This one is past 40 games now.
It is still a great point that this isn't "new" to him. I didn't realize he had these other periods.
Judge had a 209 wRC+ (fangraphs' superior version of OPS+)
in 2022. That was a special season. He's at 214 wRC+ so far this year after this blistering stretch. That 209 wRC+ ranks 14th since 1900 among those with 500 Plate Appearances in a season!
Players with 209+ wRC in a season
Barry Bonds 4x ('01-'04)
Babe Ruth 4x (1920, '21, '23, '26)
Ted Williams 3x ('41, '46, '57)
Mickey Mantle (1957)
Rogers Hornsby (1924)
Judge (2022, on pace in 2024)
Ruth/Bonds/Williams is basically the trio that almost all baseball historians consider the most dominant hitters in baseball history, which is reflected in this stat as they're the only ones to reach this level in multiple seasons.
Then we have Peak Mickey Mantle who is considered probably the most naturally gifted athlete to ever step on the diamond. Then we have Hornsby who is the best hitting infielder ever and an inner-circle legend in his own right.
That's it. Those are the only guys. 4 players from prior to 1960 and a roided out Bonds at the start of the century.
Judge keeping this pace and joining the holy Ruth/Bonds/Williams trio as the only players to reach this level on multiple occasions would be nothing short of historic.
I know all these posts are basically different versions of saying the same thing. But holy crap is Judge doing incredible things right now. if you exclude Bonds, Peak Judge is the best hitter the sport has seen in 60 years.
Oh, and he's a 280lb freak who plays a solid Centerfield? Excuse me? This guy is hard to believe.
And Judge seems like an even better human being than his play
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In this spot. It very well might be the game. Is he injured worse than the Yankees are letting on?
They are letting him rest. Only way that heals is by rest. They are not worried early June, they are worried about September and October.
This thought process has to go. Let’s see how not caring about June works out when they are playing in the damn wild card round again needing to win a 3 game series while deploying your best pitchers to do it. I hate to tell you, June games count as much as September games. How’s the whole “ we only care about October!” mindset been working out for them? Worry about September and October in September and October
Yeah and when Soto is sitting out 15 or 30 days with tendentious you'll be crying that they should have allowed it to heal.
Didn't look like it in the super slo-mo. He wasn't overly convincing like someone who actually was grazed on the forearm would be.
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In this spot. It very well might be the game. Is he injured worse than the Yankees are letting on?
They are letting him rest. Only way that heals is by rest. They are not worried early June, they are worried about September and October.
This thought process has to go. Let’s see how not caring about June works out when they are playing in the damn wild card round again needing to win a 3 game series while deploying your best pitchers to do it. I hate to tell you, June games count as much as September games. How’s the whole “ we only care about October!” mindset been working out for them? Worry about September and October in September and October
Yeah and when Soto is sitting out 15 or 30 days with tendentious you'll be crying that they should have allowed it to heal.
Bullshit. You’re crying to keep him out for no reason whatsoever. What report have you seen the past day or two makes you think this is a long term injury? I’ll clue you in, there isn’t one. Soto himself said that the injury didn’t affect him at all on the field. Resting him out of paranoia in anticipation of being healthy “in October” is laughable. Maybe just rest him the rest of the season just to be safe?
Bullshit. You’re crying to keep him out for no reason whatsoever. What report have you seen the past day or two makes you think this is a long term injury? I’ll clue you in, there isn’t one. Soto himself said that the injury didn’t affect him at all on the field. Resting him out of paranoia in anticipation of being healthy “in October” is laughable. Maybe just rest him the rest of the season just to be safe?
Funny thing about smallish injuries/soft tissue - they get worse. It is not bad now. But if they don't rest it now, it gets more inflamed and then it tears. Injuries do not just disappear without treatment and forearm injuries can lead to UCL tears.
How stupid do you think the med staff is? You think they are sitting him to let the Dodgers win?
But carry on...
All Rise.
6-4
Good win.
Good question Ravich asked earlier:
Betts, Freeman, Ohtani vs Volpe, Soto, Judge - who you got?
Good question.
IMHO:
Betts>Volpe
Soto>Freeman - is this even close?
Judge>Ohtani - close here, but I think Judge is the better batter, now. Ohtani much younger. Ohtani with an overall edge when he can pitch.
+1
I'd imagine people who grew up idolizing Mickey felt the same way we all feel about Judge now. He absolutely can't go through his prime without a couple of championships. Say what you want about fans like me complaining, put yourself in his shoes. For me Judge is better than Mattingly and still has a few prime years left. I don't know how you can not feel the urgency for him.
Against LHP, he sits and Dominguez plays LF.
Against RHP, Stanton sits and Dominguez DH's. You can throw a bone or two to Stanton against junk baller righties if you want.
Already crazy, but the league context makes it even crazier. This is the lowest leaguewide OPS in the AL since 1981.
Never in my life has one Yankee been MUST WATCH TV everytime he comes to the plate. Not even A-Rod at his MVP best. Just a ridiculous player.
I'd imagine people who grew up idolizing Mickey felt the same way we all feel about Judge now. He absolutely can't go through his prime without a couple of championships. Say what you want about fans like me complaining, put yourself in his shoes. For me Judge is better than Mattingly and still has a few prime years left. I don't know how you can not feel the urgency for him.
You can compare it however you want, but Betts and Volpe are the shortstops. That is the way I chose to compare.
Think it was probably if you had your choice of either groups, who would you take. I took that approach.
Already crazy, but the league context makes it even crazier. This is the lowest leaguewide OPS in the AL since 1981.
Never in my life has one Yankee been MUST WATCH TV everytime he comes to the plate. Not even A-Rod at his MVP best. Just a ridiculous player.
Mickey Mantle is the last one that was must see for me - perhaps Thurman.
But also cool that Grisham responded with a HR. I don't know much about Grisham but that was grace under pressure.
Per Bryan hoch, Judge was not to happy.
7-for-14.
7 Ks in 14 ABs.
Zero hits.
Is he reverting to form?
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AB right before he hit the HR. You can feel the love affair that the fans and Soto have with eachother. It's pretty fantastic.
Per Bryan hoch, Judge was not to happy.
Can't blame the fans for wanting Soto, but absolutely can see Judge being "embarrassed" for Grisham. We also have to know it is doubtful Grisham is with the Yanks later this year. And a it was a huge response by him to crush that ball.
7-for-14.
7 Ks in 14 ABs.
Zero hits.
Is he reverting to form?
yes
he's been historically unbelievable.
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and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
he's been historically unbelievable.
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
Exactly. No issue with Judge sticking up for his teammate after the game, that’s what a captain and leader should do
Chants for Soto aside, hats off to Grisham for delivering a monster HR to help avert the sweep last night. That reminded me a bit of 98…bench guys who didn’t get much playing time often came through in a pinch
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and he will always have his teammates backs. It's like Favre to Rodgers and Manning to Luck. We got Jeter to Judge and we are so damn lucky to have him. First class human, first class teammate and insanely good at baseball.
he's been historically unbelievable.
FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
he has. he was on his way to 50+ HRs, 1.000 OPS+ last year too until the accident at Dodger Stadium. Negligent assholes there cost him the season.
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AB right before he hit the HR. You can feel the love affair that the fans and Soto have with eachother. It's pretty fantastic.
Per Bryan hoch, Judge was not to happy.
He'll live.
That was me. Judge has had 4-5 months similar to this. However, never for this long a period. In the past, these kind of streaks for him were around 25 games. This one is past 40 games now.
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FWIW, I think someone pointed out that Judge has actually had three other periods (4-8 week periods) that he was nearly identical to this one.
That was me. Judge has had 4-5 months similar to this. However, never for this long a period. In the past, these kind of streaks for him were around 25 games. This one is past 40 games now.
It is still a great point that this isn't "new" to him. I didn't realize he had these other periods.
Players with 209+ wRC in a season
Barry Bonds 4x ('01-'04)
Babe Ruth 4x (1920, '21, '23, '26)
Ted Williams 3x ('41, '46, '57)
Mickey Mantle (1957)
Rogers Hornsby (1924)
Judge (2022, on pace in 2024)
Ruth/Bonds/Williams is basically the trio that almost all baseball historians consider the most dominant hitters in baseball history, which is reflected in this stat as they're the only ones to reach this level in multiple seasons.
Then we have Peak Mickey Mantle who is considered probably the most naturally gifted athlete to ever step on the diamond. Then we have Hornsby who is the best hitting infielder ever and an inner-circle legend in his own right.
That's it. Those are the only guys. 4 players from prior to 1960 and a roided out Bonds at the start of the century.
Judge keeping this pace and joining the holy Ruth/Bonds/Williams trio as the only players to reach this level on multiple occasions would be nothing short of historic.
I know all these posts are basically different versions of saying the same thing. But holy crap is Judge doing incredible things right now. if you exclude Bonds, Peak Judge is the best hitter the sport has seen in 60 years.
Oh, and he's a 280lb freak who plays a solid Centerfield? Excuse me? This guy is hard to believe.
I wasn't the biggest Jeter fan, but Jeter and Judge are like night and day off the field.
I wasn't the biggest Jeter fan, but Jeter and Judge are like night and day off the field.
How are Jeter and Judge like night and day exactly? Neither caused any off the field trouble.
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on the field. He can probably run for president one day.
I wasn't the biggest Jeter fan, but Jeter and Judge are like night and day off the field.
How are Jeter and Judge like night and day exactly? Neither caused any off the field trouble.
Yea I don’t get that either. Jeter did an amazing job off the field with all the pressure he was dealing with.
Judge seems like a truly great guy though.