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CMicks3110 : 6/9/2024 4:01 pm
with Waller's retirement, do we target a vet? Stephen Gilmore or Calais Campbell?
we have like 11m  
bigbluewillrise : 6/9/2024 4:10 pm : link
thts usually just enough to get through a season without restructures.

another non vet min type deal isnt coming.

giants dont have a lot of cap space either next year.
No  
Dankbeerman : 6/9/2024 4:11 pm : link
I dont see the need at this point. We have plenty of younger options that you would rather see if they can be long term solutions then give snaps to those types.
Giants have only $1M in cap space  
shyster : 6/9/2024 4:14 pm : link
dead last of 32 teams, per OTC.

Will of course need more than that to get through the season.
otc - ( New Window )
RE: No  
bigbluewillrise : 6/9/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16533484 Dankbeerman said:
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I dont see the need at this point. We have plenty of younger options that you would rather see if they can be long term solutions then give snaps to those types.


i think at CB2 i would agree, but i think early in camp CB2, DT2, Swing T, Edge are positions to watch.

if flott doesnt perform and looks overmatched - sign someone.
If Nelson busts/isnt healthy at T - sign someone.
If Basham/Azeez arent reliable as your 3rd Edge - sign someone.
For DT - if Phillips isnt available - get someone - hes the only pass rusher type we have at DT.
we might need to sign an Edge run stuffer type as well if someone doesnt emerge.

i hope all 4 of these groups perform well early in training camp/preseason/joint practices so we can keep the cap space and not have to do restructures.
RE: Giants have only $1M in cap space  
bigbluewillrise : 6/9/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16533485 shyster said:
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dead last of 32 teams, per OTC.

Will of course need more than that to get through the season. otc - ( New Window )


with waller retirement we are like at 11 million.
Not sure signing a guy like Gilmore  
Breeze_94 : 6/9/2024 4:26 pm : link
To a one year deal makes sense. Let the young guys play. Roll over the cap into 2025. They only have 11M cap space next year as it stands…this would give them more cushion in the future.
RE: RE: Giants have only $1M in cap space  
shyster : 6/9/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16533492 bigbluewillrise said:
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with waller retirement we are like at 11 million.


OK, wasn't clear to me whether you were talking before or after.
I’d say they  
knowledgetimmons : 6/9/2024 4:59 pm : link
Probably would like to hold on to this for a little in case an injury strikes during camp/preseason.

Who knows. Maybe a player they covet is still out there? I could see another RB vet being brought in. Maybe a DL. I don’t see corner but who knows. Again injuries will tell the story.
Could wait until we see  
RomanWH : 6/9/2024 5:01 pm : link
Who shakes loose from other rosters during final cuts. Anyone signed after the final 53 are non guaranteed contracts, right?
Need the money to sign guys off the streets during the season  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/9/2024 5:05 pm : link
This franchise has the health luck of this years Knicks
RE: Could wait until we see  
Tom in NY : 6/9/2024 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16533519 RomanWH said:
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Who shakes loose from other rosters during final cuts. Anyone signed after the final 53 are non guaranteed contracts, right?


Vet contracts that are signed after Week 1 of the season are non-guaranteed.
RE: Could wait until we see  
Blue Dog : 6/9/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16533519 RomanWH said:
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Who shakes loose from other rosters during final cuts. Anyone signed after the final 53 are non guaranteed contracts, right?


Injuries and roster holes once the pads come on could spur moves. If they see a glaring need during the preseason they could make a move before hand. Matt Nelson and Jordan Phillips questionable health comes to mind, I think they need both. They could also make a bigger splash like when they lost Xavier McKinney and gave Logan Ryan good money as an instant fix.
A vet CB would be nice but  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/9/2024 5:21 pm : link
No reason to over play now. It’s why guys like Gilmore are still around. They want. To get as much as they can. Just scratch Xavian Howard off any list. He’s grade A pile of shit. Just google him. Sent revenge porn to one ex and to another ex’s son.

Even if the Giants over perform roll w the younger guys. A real pass rush would do wonders for the DBs. And is they can’t get a pass Russ w Burns Thibs and Dex we got bigger problems than CB2.
A Rocky Bernard-type  
mittenedman : 6/9/2024 5:30 pm : link
signing would be awesome right now.
Barring a huge FA signing  
Pepe LePugh : 6/9/2024 5:37 pm : link
JS starts the season with more cash and FAR more flexibility than his first two. No need to look for cap space to cover expansion to 53 salaries, pay PS, IR backfills etc. But if needed, there are at least a half dozen restructures available that will not hamstring future caps.
CAP  
Archer : 6/9/2024 5:55 pm : link
The Giants will have $12,720,031 of CAP space with Waller's retirement.

The Giants have numerous ways to create additional CAP space if they choose.

Restructuring contracts can do this.

In addition, some players, who further reduce the Giant's CAP space will be released.
Players that should be concerned are Bashem, Robinson, and Gillan. Cutting those three would free up another $5,000,000 in CAP space.

Additionally, the Giants can sign free agents to the league minimums and prorate a signing bonus over voidable years.

The Giants can acquire any free agents that they may want.

RE: Barring a huge FA signing  
bigbluewillrise : 6/9/2024 6:13 pm : link
In comment 16533537 Pepe LePugh said:
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JS starts the season with more cash and FAR more flexibility than his first two. No need to look for cap space to cover expansion to 53 salaries, pay PS, IR backfills etc. But if needed, there are at least a half dozen restructures available that will not hamstring future caps.


we thought that about waller and jones, we regret both those signings and subsequent restructures.
RE: CAP  
mfjmfj : 6/10/2024 5:06 am : link
In comment 16533545 Archer said:
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The Giants will have $12,720,031 of CAP space with Waller's retirement.

The Giants have numerous ways to create additional CAP space if they choose.

Restructuring contracts can do this.

In addition, some players, who further reduce the Giant's CAP space will be released.
Players that should be concerned are Bashem, Robinson, and Gillan. Cutting those three would free up another $5,000,000 in CAP space.

Additionally, the Giants can sign free agents to the league minimums and prorate a signing bonus over voidable years.

The Giants can acquire any free agents that they may want.


This is true. They probably shouldn't, since it does not seem that this is a team prepared to make a run.
I think they go into camp with  
section125 : 6/10/2024 7:13 am : link
what they have now. Watch the wires to see who shakes loose. If certain positions like CB2 and DT do not pan out, then they can pick up a vet for near minimum deal.

But that $10-$12 range is a good place to be heading into the season.
RE: RE: CAP  
mittenedman : 6/10/2024 2:19 pm : link
In comment 16533750 mfjmfj said:
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In comment 16533545 Archer said:


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The Giants will have $12,720,031 of CAP space with Waller's retirement.

The Giants have numerous ways to create additional CAP space if they choose.

Restructuring contracts can do this.

In addition, some players, who further reduce the Giant's CAP space will be released.
Players that should be concerned are Bashem, Robinson, and Gillan. Cutting those three would free up another $5,000,000 in CAP space.

Additionally, the Giants can sign free agents to the league minimums and prorate a signing bonus over voidable years.

The Giants can acquire any free agents that they may want.




This is true. They probably shouldn't, since it does not seem that this is a team prepared to make a run.


Why not? I don’t think the Giants are looking at it like that. Mara’s spent more than a 3rd of a billion $$$$ the last 2 years in guaranteed $$$$. It’s time to win. This should be a Playoff team bare minimum.
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