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NFT: How would you fix this door hinge?

pjcas18 : 6/10/2024 3:25 pm
to set the stage for you DIYers, I can fix anything if I have good directions. I need step by step directions and I need to have the right tools. if I do then nothing is off limits - plumbing, electric, light carpentry, anything.

When I don't get good directions or have the right tools and I need to improvise I'm a disaster. I have installed light fixtures, new sinks, replaced sinks, toilets, fixtures, etc. and also caused so much damage when things didn't go well the plumbers and electricians in town recognize my number when I call them.

So, now that you know what you're dealing with.

I have a small coat closet in our entry way. The lower hinge seems like the screws are stripped. I thought why not just get longer screws. That worked for a while, but eventually I guess the weight of the door won out and now I need to fix it the real way. but with the door hinge not exactly being adjustable I was not sure how to fix it the right way. Maybe some wood filler in the holes and then redrill the holes and screw in the hinge?

a picture in case it's not clear - the screws are loose - they don't tighten.

any advice?

you can  
Burt64 : 6/10/2024 3:28 pm : link
try packing the screw hole with tooth picks and attempt to refasten.
RE: you can  
Racer : 6/10/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16534059 Burt64 said:
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try packing the screw hole with tooth picks and attempt to refasten.


+1
You can also drill a 4th hole to the right of the middle screw.  
Racer : 6/10/2024 3:32 pm : link
Drill normally through the hinge to account for the thread diameter. Get a larger metal bit and 'start' a larger hole so you can countersink the screw head.
Toothpicks or a dowel  
mgreenie03 : 6/10/2024 3:32 pm : link
and a good wood glue.
thanks  
pjcas18 : 6/10/2024 3:35 pm : link
I used toothpicks on a drawer knob that became stripped.

do you think that is a "permanent" solution?

If it works even temporarily it's better than what I have now, just curious.
I like  
pjcas18 : 6/10/2024 3:38 pm : link
drilling the 4th hole too, I may do that and the toothpicks.

Thank you for the replies.
I'd stuff it with epoxy  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/10/2024 3:41 pm : link
then drill into the epoxy...that shit ain't going anywhere
RE: I'd stuff it with epoxy  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/10/2024 3:41 pm : link
In comment 16534081 I Love Clams Casino said:
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then drill into the epoxy...that shit ain't going anywhere


from a syringe
Buy a new door hinge  
Jimmy Meatballs : 6/10/2024 3:43 pm : link
with 4 screw holes instead of three. The screw holes should not match up so you can drill into a better spot. If they do live up for a couple screw holes, try some of the other suggestions like toothpicks
RE: I'd stuff it with epoxy  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/10/2024 4:08 pm : link
In comment 16534081 I Love Clams Casino said:
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then drill into the epoxy...that shit ain't going anywhere


This. I like JB Weld Kwikwood. Comes in a stick that’s the consistency of Playdoh. You cut a piece off, mix the two halves between your fingers and press into the hole. Fully cures in an hour and is then sandable and drillable.

Use a dowel.  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/10/2024 4:15 pm : link
Insert it with some wood glue and cut and sand flush with the surface.

Now you will have a new surface to grip your screw.

Toothpicks work too.
Get a 1/4 or 5/16 inch  
section125 : 6/10/2024 4:18 pm : link
bit and drill out the existing screw holes. But a length of wooden dowel the same size as the drill bit. Use a good wood glue and drive pieces of the appropriate dowel into the holes you drilled - using plenty of glue. Allow the glue to dry overnight. Shave the excess dowel off even with the jamb.

Actually if you have a good set of bits, you may want a bit slightly smaller than the wooden dowel you will drive into the hole so it is in there very tight - cannot rattle around. If you aren't forcing the dowel into the hole, it will not hold when you try re-attaching the hinge. Pencil mark the hinge screw holes and drill pilot holes for the screws.
a golf tee  
Burt64 : 6/10/2024 4:20 pm : link
is a decent alternative to toothpicks as well.
RE: RE: you can  
Blue21 : 6/10/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16534063 Racer said:
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In comment 16534059 Burt64 said:


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try packing the screw hole with tooth picks and attempt to refasten.



+1
+2 I be used this trick many times on many different projects
Tooth picks and wood glue.....  
Ryan : 6/10/2024 4:26 pm : link
Wood glue has more than enough strength.
fill hole with elmor's glue....  
BCD : 6/10/2024 4:59 pm : link
dip tooth picks in glue one at a time as far as it will go then snap off extra end....and keep stuffing them in tight...let dry ( 1 day) then screw back in....worked for me several times.
thank you all  
pjcas18 : 6/10/2024 5:29 pm : link
some good suggestions within my skill set and available tools.

I appreciate it.
Then paint it,  
gridirony : 6/10/2024 5:33 pm : link
to an orange door hinge.

As for me, I drill into the existing screw hole, wiggling the tip of the drill bit, so that the hole is tapered wider the deeper it is. Then use filler, and finally re-drill new non-tapered hole.
PJ, this is the only way to do it...  
DefenseWins : 6/10/2024 5:43 pm : link
Buy 1/4 inch by 1 inch wood dowels. They come in a small pack at home depot.

Remove those screws and they are short screws then replace them with longer wood screws.

Use a 1/4 inch drill bit and drill a new pilot hole through slightly longer than 1 inch.

Apply wood glue to the dowels and hammer them in lightly. Make sure you sink them to at least flush with the jam or slightly inside by a hair. Otherwise, the hinge will not be tight to the jam when you reinstall.

wipe off any remaining glue and wait one hour before proceeding.

The hinge pin should be removed from that hinge so you can hold it in place against the jam freely. Place the hinge on the jam and take a pencil to mark the dowel through the hinge in the center. Use a punch or something else pointy to start the spot where your drill bit will be placed.

Take a 1/16 or 1/8 bit and drill a pilot hole one inch deep for all three locations. replace the hinge plate and install the screws. You can use a screw gun but do not go all the way with it. You should hand tighten when you get close so the gun does not strip your hole.

If the hinge is loose on the door, then you will need to do the same thing there too.

I actually just did one like this today
Two tooth picks. Period. Done it. It's easy.  
Marty in Albany : 6/10/2024 5:50 pm : link
Look it up on Youtube.

Nothing so annoying was ever fixed so easily.
RE: you can  
Matt M. : 6/10/2024 7:01 pm : link
In comment 16534059 Burt64 said:
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try packing the screw hole with tooth picks and attempt to refasten.
I did exactly this with my coat closet.
RE: Two tooth picks. Period. Done it. It's easy.  
DefenseWins : 6/10/2024 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16534164 Marty in Albany said:
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Look it up on Youtube.

Nothing so annoying was ever fixed so easily.


That is temporary. If you are going to do it that way, jam a few of them in there with wood glue.
All good suggestions  
haper : 6/10/2024 8:25 pm : link
But I'll add one other thing to try, longer screws. Hinge screws are only long enough to penetrate the door frame. Longer screws will get through the door frame to the actual stud.
RE: All good suggestions  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/10/2024 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16534250 haper said:
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But I'll add one other thing to try, longer screws. Hinge screws are only long enough to penetrate the door frame. Longer screws will get through the door frame to the actual stud.

Read the OP. He already tried that and it failed.
RE: Tooth picks and wood glue.....  
Scooter185 : 6/10/2024 10:36 pm : link
In comment 16534113 Ryan said:
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Wood glue has more than enough strength.


Do this all the time at the bowling alley for repairing stripped screws in the approach
RE: All good suggestions  
DefenseWins : 6/11/2024 5:53 am : link
In comment 16534250 haper said:
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But I'll add one other thing to try, longer screws. Hinge screws are only long enough to penetrate the door frame. Longer screws will get through the door frame to the actual stud.


The problem with this method is although you feel the screw grab onto something, it is not stable. You have a widened hole going through the door jam so that hinge can still move.
I started with longer  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2024 7:23 am : link
screws. it's how my brain works. try and find the easiest solution. and it did work, for about a month or two, and then I guess the weight of the door and constant opening and closing of the door loosened the newly connected part of the screw in the stud and gradually they all became loose again.

I guess if i got really long screws the same width, like a foot long, it could work for longer, lol,
RE: Toothpicks or a dowel  
Beer Man : 6/11/2024 7:56 am : link
In comment 16534068 mgreenie03 said:
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and a good wood glue.
+1. I have done this a number of times and it works great.
FYI  
pjcas18 : 6/14/2024 5:19 pm : link
to just thank you all for your advice.

I went with the KwikWood epoxy, filled the screw holes (also discovered the middle hinge was stripped too or loose at least so filled those screws as well) and re-drilled the holes and attached the hinges and then the door.

Seems fixed. Could not have been any easier. I went with the epoxy over toothpicks because I felt like after reading up on the epoxy it wouldn't succumb to the weight of the door like toothpicks eventually might over time.

It seems like a really heavy door for an internal closet, but whatever, it opens and closes like new.

Thank you all for the advice.
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