New York Giants Mandatory Mini-Camp: Day Two

Patricia Traina
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Giants are holding the three receivers who were dinged yesterday. Also Daboll said Bellinger had something happen a few weeks ago and they’re being cautious with him.

The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daboll says something happened a few weeks ago with Bellinger but he’s fine. He will be ready for camp.
That explains why Bellinger was on side yesterday.

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Daboll - have to make sure you keep the competitlve spirit alive among the players but more important now to get the fundamentals right

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll - been totally impressed with nabers skills albut also with his football smarts...knows what all the skill guys on offense are doing....hyatt also had a great camp

The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daboll on Wan’Dale Robinson:
“We ask him to do a lot, smart, runs a variety of routes. Good football player”

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Daboll - been a lot of good collaboration among the asst coaches....kafka, etx been very valuable with their input

#NYGiants Daboll - can count on neal...been here and working his butt off...participatimg in the meetings..expects all to be cleared for training camp

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Daboll - every experience can help you learn and grow....easy to be up, but you will have tough times and there is much to learn...you dont have all the answers and you lean on others to try to grow....the lows are not fun but very good learning tools if used correctly

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Daboll - OL has had communication...the chemistry been good, too...that's what you look for at this time of year without pads

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants first training camp practice will be July 24

The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daboll says the hope is every injured player will be ready for camp. Obviously the big one is Evan Neal and I get the feeling they’re not sure on Neal yet.

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said “something happened a few weeks ago” to TE Daniel Bellinger in explaining his reduced reps this spring. Daboll said he’s being cautious and Bellinger is fine.

Daboll said WR Darius Slayton won’t practice today. He’s still hopeful everyone will be ready for camp.

Art Stapleton
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🕷️ 🕷️ 🕷️ #Giants100
@wanda1erobinson

@jalinhyatt

@whyguard13

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1800909923561394624 - ( New Window )

Wan’Dale
Hyatt
Nabers

Are going to be a very good trio for years to come. Let’s just hope whoever the QB is can utilize them.

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Haven’t seen tennis balls used this creatively since Judge was taping them to DB’s hands to stop them from holding
https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1800912742607401126 - ( New Window )

Charlotte Carroll
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Some one handed grabs from Malik Nabers today #giants

Just makes it look easy
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1800912826611245155 - ( New Window )

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Punt returners using tennis balls to test their concentration #Giants100 Wan’Dale Robinson
Ayir Asante
Tyrone Tracy

Giants Videos

@SNYGiants
Daniel Jones ➡️ Malik Nabers
https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1800911233010299186 - ( New Window )

In comment 16535316 Eric from BBI said:

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Art Stapleton @art_stapleton · 2m Punt returners using tennis balls to test their concentration #Giants100 Wan’Dale Robinson Ayir Asante Tyrone Tracy

The PR clearly had the number 87. So either McKenzie was doing it, or there is some issue there which is why Asante changed his number.

In comment 16535061 bigbluewillrise said:

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In comment 16535031 Eric from BBI said: Quote: In comment 16535028 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: This seems like way too much of a hypothetical. Yes. That being said, Cota's injury could be serious. Some may say "so what?" but filling up IR with guys who weren't going to make the team can have cumulative salary cap ramifications. thats why we wont see teh major splash move unless schoen gets desperate. i think prices will come down too. so i dont think well see a 1 year7-8m signing.

We don't really have the money for a signing of that caliber anyway. Yes, the Giants do technically have enough cap space right now, but if you earmark $10M for in-season operating space, you're left with $2M and change, so any signing above that will likely trigger a restructure elsewhere (if not immediately, eventually).

Unfortunately for the Giants, the easiest contract for them to tap for space this year is also probably one that they'd like to avoid touching unless/until all other avenues to cap space are exhausted. For that reason, I expect the Giants to avoid putting themselves at greater risk to need that contract's available balance, and a FA signing in the $7-8M range would definitely increase that risk. I think they'd prefer to stay under $4M (and probably closer to $3M) for any late new additions.

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Brief, light practice to wrap minicamp. Vets Andrew Thomas, Dexter Lawrence, Bobby Okereke and Brian Burns got the day off from team drills.

Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
An extremely light 2nd and final #Giants minicamp practice just wrapped up here in East Rutherford. Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Andrew Thomas, Bobby Okereke and Azeez Ojulari didn’t do any team work. The receivers who got hurt yesterday, including Darius Slayton, didn’t practice. Training camp next in late July

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants WDRobinson - difference from last yr is night and day....now in full go

#NYGiants WDRobinson - back to himself after not having to rehab the knee.....will do whatever role they ask

#NYGiants WDRobinson - young WR room has different skillsets...trying to learn every day.....kind of felt at end of last yr that he would step up as a young leader

#NYGiants WDRobinson - thinks he will be much more explosive after the catch ..... were times last year - especially early - when he didnt feel it....confidence has returned

#NYGiants WDRobinson - did some GPS numbers this offseason that he never hit before

#NYGiants WDRobinson - everybody's production in the WR room with help everybody else in the room.

#NYGiants WDRobinson - daboll always been a fun joking guy...now that he's calling plays in the spring, maybe a little more intense but still the same guy

GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Eleumunor - guard is one of the spots they needed....he started at LG at start of his pro career...just wants to be out there

#NYGiants Eleumunor - bricillo believes in his technique and puts guys in the right place in the right time....explains eveything about how and why the play is designed

#NYGiants Eleumunor - says it is a terrific OL room...one big family and having a lot of fun with them

#NYGiants Eleumunor - not important what position he plays but would rather just stay at LG, now that it is where he's been working...says confidence in going vs this defensive front is key in how you react after they win a battle

#NYGiants Eleumunor - practiced at multiple positions with raiders even though they played him at RT

#NYGiants Eleumunor - strugglwd with confidence early in his career.....thought his career was over 2 yrs ago but then he got to practice vs raiders maxx crosby and it helped him become the player he wants to be...says he has more upside

#NYGiants Eleumunor - helping neal to gain confidence because he knows the kind of RT he can be

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Jermaine Eluemunor said he doesn’t care if he plays guard or tackle, he just wants to start. Eluemunor said he is focusing solely on LG now since that’s where the team put him. He said he has confidence in Evan Neal at RT.

Art Stapleton
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#NYGiants wrapped their on-field portion of the offseason program. Team will meet tomorrow morning and have an organization BBQ before breaking for summer.

Select players will stick around for the team's Legends Event at The Theater at MSG next Thursday.

Then: see you July 23.

So I am going to complain for a second. What's the point of a 2-day mini-camp if the 2nd day is going to be "light"? They only get so many days to work. It used to be a 3-day camp and the last day was always light, now it's 2 and the last day is light.... it's not like we are lighting things up season to season so why are we not putting in a full "go hard" practice? Finish Hard before the break and make every rep count. Just my opinion.

In comment 16535382 dairborn said:

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So I am going to complain for a second. What's the point of a 2-day mini-camp if the 2nd day is going to be "light"? They only get so many days to work. It used to be a 3-day camp and the last day was always light, now it's 2 and the last day is light.... it's not like we are lighting things up season to season so why are we not putting in a full "go hard" practice? Finish Hard before the break and make every rep count. Just my opinion.

Agreed.

To build muscle memory and understanding you don't start out doing things hard and fast. There is a saying with teaching and learned skills: If you can’t do it slow, you can’t do it fast. Also a Navy SEAL motto: “Slow is smooth and smooth is fast”, meaning a focus on deliberate actions prioritizing accuracy over haste.

That the Giants put Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG despite the fact that both have played mostly on the opposite side their entire career.

but they ended only an hour and 20 minutes into a slotted two-hour session. I sat quietly last year with this coaching staff, with things I questioned. I'm not doing it this year. You had 40 more minutes to be "light", but you left meat on the bone. Get the work in. Sorry, I don't agree. Start showing me what it means to be a pro, rather than just saying it.

I do think they need to add more intensity when they get to training camp. There were issues last year, agreed, though I can't say with confidence what the source, particularly on all the problems with Oline were. But the team not knowing what it means to be a pro in June would not be my first guess.

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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CB Tre Herndon, a tryout for the #NYGiants here at minicamp, made a nice play on a deflected Tommy DeVito pass popped in air by Darrian Beavers, taking it to the house with the rest of the defense chasing him to party in the end zone.

Won't be surprised if Herndon gets a deal.

Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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The Giants are signing veteran CB Tre Herndon, per agents
@davidcanter
and
@NessMugrabi
. A quality vet added to the mix after he had an interception for a TD at today's minicamp practice.

Herndon has played in 83 career games with 34 starts.

A lot of people were suspecting they'd bring in a veteran dback.

In comment 16535398 Jay on the Island said:

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That the Giants put Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG despite the fact that both have played mostly on the opposite side their entire career.

You might want to double check your facts. Jon Runyan jr has played almost equal snaps at LG and RG. He has more snaps at RG and that is where he has been playing the last year and a half where he has over 1600 snaps.

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According to Pro Football Focus, the 26-year-old Runyan has extensive experience at the NFL level playing both guard positions, with 1,611 of his snaps coming at left guard and 1,709 at right guard.

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He played 925 snaps at right guard for the Packers in 2023, allowing only two sacks and six quarterback hits in 568 pass-block snaps, according to Pro Football Focus. His pass rush win rate in 2023 of 94.2 percent was the ninth best among guards.

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Runyan in 2022 played 680 snaps at right guard and 370 at left guard.

Jermaine Eluemunor is the only one going to a new position as he played LT and RT last year, but he has played under Carmen Bricillo for most of his career. He also has experience playing guard.

In comment 16535357 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 16535061 bigbluewillrise said: Quote: In comment 16535031 Eric from BBI said: Quote: In comment 16535028 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: This seems like way too much of a hypothetical. Yes. That being said, Cota's injury could be serious. Some may say "so what?" but filling up IR with guys who weren't going to make the team can have cumulative salary cap ramifications. thats why we wont see teh major splash move unless schoen gets desperate. i think prices will come down too. so i dont think well see a 1 year7-8m signing. We don't really have the money for a signing of that caliber anyway. Yes, the Giants do technically have enough cap space right now, but if you earmark $10M for in-season operating space, you're left with $2M and change, so any signing above that will likely trigger a restructure elsewhere (if not immediately, eventually). Unfortunately for the Giants, the easiest contract for them to tap for space this year is also probably one that they'd like to avoid touching unless/until all other avenues to cap space are exhausted. For that reason, I expect the Giants to avoid putting themselves at greater risk to need that contract's available balance, and a FA signing in the $7-8M range would definitely increase that risk. I think they'd prefer to stay under $4M (and probably closer to $3M) for any late new additions.

The easiest contract to adjust is Andrew Thomas. His salary is already fully guaranteed for the next 3 years and his salary is basically flat and he has no bonus money tied to the last 2 years of his deal yet. Convert salary to bonus push it over 5 years can easily add 12 - 14 mil to the cap space.

I would argue they should do it anyway. create the space now( or likely at the end of camp) to cover incidentals throughout the season and if you don't need it then you carry it over to next year when it can take some of the sting away from the dead money that will be owed to Jones

In comment 16535398 Jay on the Island said:

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That the Giants put Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG despite the fact that both have played mostly on the opposite side their entire career.

I think it's because Runyan is being handed the starting right guard job whereas Eluemunor will be competing for the left guard and right tackle spots. That's my best guess. I think they still love Ezeudu (every bit as much as they still love Neal) and want him to win the left guard job with Eluemunor as the top backup at several spots along the line. This is just my guess. And I think for the OTA's they didn't like the optics of the beat reporters seeing Eluemunor at right tackle with Neal out, so they had him working with the #1's at left guard and put Ezeudu at left tackle and right tackle.

Again, just my opinion/guess/hunch, don't yell at me!

John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
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We recap the final day of minicamp and the offseason program for the
@Giants
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https://x.com/Schmeelk/status/1800949593091473870 - ( New Window )

In comment 16535218 Eric from BBI said:

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GiantsWFAN @giantswfan · 2m #NYGiants Bowen on his base defense - will find out what best fits the players... mulitplicity on the backend The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper @GiantInsider · 1m Complicity on backend, physical, fundamentally sound, that’s how DC Shane Bowen describes what he wants from his D

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Complicity? What does that mean? I guess I need to hear the interview.

In comment 16535158 Eric from BBI said:

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Dan Salomone @Dan_Salomone · 5m STC Michael Ghobrial said the new kickoff return will have more elements of an offensive run play. The space and hang time aren’t there to get creative with the blocking.

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I can’t question Ghobrial’s abilities or credentials, but if I am running the Giants, I would think seriously about hiring a special assistant who has coached under the new Kickoff rules to help out.I don’t want to watch preseason and 4-5 games before they figure out the new rule strategy.

Eric from BBI said:

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[Nubin] brings a certain presence that blends well with Jason Pinnock, Dane Belton and Nick McCloud, who has been seeing action in three-safety looks.

Is McCloud on his way to being purely - or at least primarily - a safety?

In comment 16535513 Big Blue Blogger said:

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Eric from BBI said: Quote: [Nubin] brings a certain presence that blends well with Jason Pinnock, Dane Belton and Nick McCloud, who has been seeing action in three-safety looks. Is McCloud on his way to being purely - or at least primarily - a safety?

I think he's been playing nickel.

In comment 16535398 Jay on the Island said:

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That the Giants put Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG despite the fact that both have played mostly on the opposite side their entire career.

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At least the Giants appear to have a Plan A and a Plan B for Neal. Apparently, if Eluemunor has to move to RT, Stinnie at LG and Runyan at RG is better than the reverse. Also, if Neal does have to move to guard, the consensus is that he should be at LG although I don’t know why except that LG is where he played at Alabama.

In comment 16535460 Milton said:

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In comment 16535398 Jay on the Island said: Quote: That the Giants put Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG despite the fact that both have played mostly on the opposite side their entire career. I think it's because Runyan is being handed the starting right guard job whereas Eluemunor will be competing for the left guard and right tackle spots. That's my best guess. I think they still love Ezeudu (every bit as much as they still love Neal) and want him to win the left guard job with Eluemunor as the top backup at several spots along the line. This is just my guess. And I think for the OTA's they didn't like the optics of the beat reporters seeing Eluemunor at right tackle with Neal out, so they had him working with the #1's at left guard and put Ezeudu at left tackle and right tackle. Again, just my opinion/guess/hunch, don't yell at me!

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Milton, I think you are right about the optics. Having Eluemunor start to practice at RT could be interpreted as the Giants panicking about Neal and his recovery. Put that off for 6 weeks. Eluemunor is experienced and has shown to be able to handle any changes pretty easily.

In comment 16535493 Ivan15 said:

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In comment 16535218 Eric from BBI said: Quote: GiantsWFAN @giantswfan · 2m #NYGiants Bowen on his base defense - will find out what best fits the players... mulitplicity on the backend The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper @GiantInsider · 1m Complicity on backend, physical, fundamentally sound, that’s how DC Shane Bowen describes what he wants from his D _________ Complicity? What does that mean? I guess I need to hear the interview.

think it’s supposed to read “multiplicity”

but hardly got on the field the first five of those years, in part because of a couple of major injuries.

Last year, he finally got some significant playing time as a starter beginning Week 8, when the guy ahead of him went down.

After watching him play, Tampa had no apparent interest in bringing him back, and he signed with the Giants for not much more than minimum.

Not your typical 30 yo vet OL. And not in a comforting way.

In comment 16535533 shyster said:

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but hardly got on the field the first five of those years, in part because of a couple of major injuries. Last year, he finally got some significant playing time as a starter beginning Week 8, when the guy ahead of him went down. After watching him play, Tampa had no apparent interest in bringing him back, and he signed with the Giants for not much more than minimum. Not your typical 30 yo vet OL. And not in a comforting way.

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Stinnie fills a need for vet guard but at 30 years old, he can be replaced easily if he falters.So who his backup may be in late August could be very important.

Was it exceptional

In comment 16535379 Eric from BBI said:

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Art Stapleton @art_stapleton · 1m #NYGiants wrapped their on-field portion of the offseason program. Team will meet tomorrow morning and have an organization BBQ before breaking for summer. Select players will stick around for the team's Legends Event at The Theater at MSG next Thursday. Then: see you July 23.

Neal flipping the dogs and burgers?

You can tell he wants more out of these guys when we get to camp. Very open take here.