NFT: Star Wars The Acolyte

but there’s no shot I watch it, Star Wars is dead

But the entire franchise is circling the drain. They seem to have squeezed every dollar out of it by flooding the market with endless, terrible spin offs. Hopefully they just let it die soon.

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The stories are weak. The acting is flat. Yes, it is bad. And for as much as it's supposed to be 100 years earlier than the main series, it just feels like more of the same (with a little different wardrobe).

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Seriously

Loved it as an 80s kid, but outgrew it as an adult. The only watchable modern SW to me is Rogue One. Because it seems like it was made be an 80s kid SW fan that grew up. Everything else I attempt to watch is just so lame and unwatchable.

Never a big fan although I enjoyed the original and Revenge of the Sith. I thought SW was making a comeback after Rogue One. That was a damn good movie, but since then it's been a steady decline. Even the Mandalorian got tired after a couple seasons. My kid 7 yr keeps watching the trailer for the Acolyte, but then opts for puppy dog pals. Surely better writing with the latter based on the past few SW things I saw

I'd rank that third overall in the universe, behind only Empire and the original Star Wars.

I think Andor is pretty good, and Mandalorian was ok (I didn't bother with season 3 though). The rest of the recent stuff has ranged from passable to bad.

But it was a slow ramp up. I have a friend that bailed on it early in the season and couldn't convince him that it really got to be excellent in later episodes.

is it that bad?

In comment 16536109 Greg from LI said:

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Seriously

The witches were created by Lucas in The Clone Wars, although the ones we saw appear different from those on TCW and Ashoka

In comment 16536137 barens said:

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is it that bad?

Listen to real fans and not sites like Rotten Tomatoes or IGN. They are paid by Disney for positive reviews. The show is a slap in the face to Star Wars.

The mandalorian was great - as were the pre-Disney cartoon series (yes - I have kids). However, the derived plot lines which are meant to solve social justice issues are becoming too much to tolerate in the recent crop of shows.

The prequels were shit but kinda grew on you over time but the only lasting impression of the sequels is that on a scale of 1 to 100, my desire to watch them ever again is approx 1.

But since the sequels I did love Clone Wars, Bad Batch, Rogue One, Rebels, Mandolorian, Andor and a few others. Even Kenobi had some moments I enjoyed. So there's been some great content lately... but those fucking movies just ruin the whole damned thing.

But the Acolyte might be the worst of these Disney spinoffs. I've been "multi-tasking" with Acolyte on in the background.

More politically correct BS from Disney.

We’re great. Book of Fett was a disappointment but not the worst. Kenobi sucked. Andor was good. TCW was good and so was Bad Batch but those are animated.

I had zero interest in Ashoka.

You can only go back to the same well (Jedi! Light sabers! Characters from Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels!) so many times. I thought Andor worked because at least it had a different point of view, showing us how the Empire's bureaucracy operated, and how the rebellion took advantage of the cracks in the armor. But you lose me when you spend whole series trying to build lore and history around characters that aren't compelling (i.e., this new show). Star Wars should be sci-fi fantasy *adventure*, not drawn-out touchy-feely conversations about feelings and past tragedies and whatnot.

It's not amazing, but it's not awful. If your expectation is the original trilogy which is a GOAT movie series, you'll be disappointed by everything.

It'd give them a dozen established character and designs to craft a show around.

That game's storyline with some tweaks would be perfect for an episodic TV series, too - a ragtag group travel around to different planets searching for a MacGuffin to defeat a Sith Lord. You've got multiple Jedi, a Twi'Lek, a Wookie, funny droids, a Mandalorian...it'd be a friggin' lay-up.

Why buy everything in the Star Wars universe if you aren't going to take & use the best stuff? It wasn't exactly a niche game, either.

The witch stuff last episode was a little corny but I’m into the plot so far.

In comment 16536154 SoZKillA said:

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In comment 16536137 barens said: Quote: is it that bad? Listen to real fans and not sites like Rotten Tomatoes or IGN. They are paid by Disney for positive reviews. The show is a slap in the face to Star Wars.

They are paid by Disney for positive reviews? Lets not get crazy, that's not how that works.

In comment 16536262 90.Cal said:

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The witch stuff last episode was a little corny but I’m into the plot so far.

Episode 3 was definitely the weakest so far...the Jedi in the first two episodes are really intriguing especially Sol.

In comment 16536176 SoZKillA said:

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We’re great. Book of Fett was a disappointment but not the worst. Kenobi sucked. Andor was good. TCW was good and so was Bad Batch but those are animated. I had zero interest in Ashoka.

Ahsoka was boring and Rosario Dawson was surprisingly bad. Maybe becuase of the director? Regardless, she was completely wooden.

Rogue One is the only thing I've enjoyed in decades. It was downhill long before Disney got involved and now its just straight garbage. Especially the shows. Including Mandolorian. The writing, the acting, the fight scenes...its all sophomoric. Mandolorian was the last thing I tried to get into. I guess I wouldn't really consider myself a fan anymore tbh.

when they show the Jedi as blood thirsty murderers!
The whole point of this show was for KK to kill Star Wars once and for all and re-invent it in her image.

She got the first part right!

The coven of lesbian space witches creating force kids was about it for me.

The Star Wars universe in my head growing up as a kid 30 years ago was much different than this.

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In comment 16536310 Ben in Tampa said:

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The coven of lesbian space witches creating force kids was about it for me. The Star Wars universe in my head growing up as a kid 30 years ago was much different than this.

This times a million. And it devalues the entire idea of the Force - of hidden Force users, those with innate abilities they never knew about. Or hell, even Anakin himself being the chosen one.

A bunch of ladies chanting around children shouldn't be able to magically bestow the Force upon someone else. It is a stupid, non-canon concept.

Other folks on social media are up in arms over another female lead being cast (I could care less) and the ethnical diversity of the cast (another point I think is asinine).

The writing is piss poor. The plot is frayed. Great costumes as always, but its a godawful show.

Is it true there is a he/she/they/them character?

Kathleen Kennedy needs to be shit canned and Disney needs to turn the reigns over to Favreau and Filoni

It's fine. I actually loved the wirework and fight scenes in the first two episodes. I am kind of tired of SW making pretty big continuity changing mistakes and I feel like this is destined to do that once again so it may end up being terrible in the end. I just don't see how they can have a sith (The sith have been extinct for a millenia - direct quote from the prequels) in the show and not break continuity. Even if he kills whatever jedi are remaining, how would they not then investigate 4 murdered jedi and discover the truth?

It seems like Disney is trying to use these TV series to fill in the innumerable blanks left by the sequel abominations. A lot of season 3 of the Mandalorian sets up the rise of the First Order, a plot point I feel like should have been a focus of a different show instead of shoehorning into the adventures of a bounty hunter and his son lol

The Acolyte seems like it's trying to set the stage for the creation of Luke Skywalker and maybe explaining how Palpatine survived (lol idiotic).

We'll see what happens, I guess. So far, I like it way more than Obi Wan, Boba Fett, and maybe even Mando Season 3. And anything is better than the sequels lol

In comment 16536325 Roto_Wizard said:

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A bunch of ladies chanting around children shouldn't be able to magically bestow the Force upon someone else. It is a stupid, non-canon concept.

I guess it's a good thing that never happened then. I assume you're referring to the girls' ascension ceremony? They were already force users as shown when they both messed around with that butterfly/moth thing when they were introduced. I'm assuming what the ceremony was doing was somehow connecting the girls to the larger group. Perhaps creating some kind of empathetic force connection. Hopefully, that gets explained at some point.

But no, the girls already had force powers that they were shown using prior to the ceremony you referenced. Unless you're talking about something else.

doc on the rise and fall of Galaxy's Edge at Disney. Simply incredible stuff by the girl who did it.

I'm not sure where to put the Acolyte yet but the previous series I have:

Andor
Mando S1&2
Ashoka
Mando S3
Kenobi
BOBF

In comment 16536363 Bold Ruler said:

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doc on the rise and fall of Galaxy's Edge at Disney. Simply incredible stuff by the girl who did it.

I watched this too, she was great. Some of that stuff is so hard to believe, but there it is on video.

awaited Thursdays for the latest SW or Marvel episode. We’ve mentioned watching this one but haven’t bothered and have absolutely no enthusiasm. It feels more like a chore than entertainment.

Amazing how quickly the gleam of those franchises went away.

I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it.

In comment 16536506 uconngiant said:

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I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it.

DEI at it's best!

is the best live action SW since Mando season 1 so far. It has been excellent.

In comment 16536506 uconngiant said:

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I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it.

I think Disney has been trying to eliminate the political aspect of their content, but they had already made so much, there was no going back.

I haven't started yet, but one of my issues with Star Wars, is the way they just casually have so many Jedi's. It used to be a novelty, not everyone under the sun is a Jedi. Not that way to expand the Star Wars universe IMHO.

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In comment 16536753 barens said:

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In comment 16536506 uconngiant said: Quote: I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it. I think Disney has been trying to eliminate the political aspect of their content, but they had already made so much, there was no going back. I haven't started yet, but one of my issues with Star Wars, is the way they just casually have so many Jedi's. It used to be a novelty, not everyone under the sun is a Jedi. Not that way to expand the Star Wars universe IMHO.

Andor, Mando, and The Bad Batch are Jedis? Hmmm... Must have missed that.

In comment 16536506 uconngiant said:

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I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it.

LOL! The first movie was literally about taking on an evil government dictatorship. Yeah, not too political...

In comment 16536762 vonritz said:

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In comment 16536753 barens said: Quote: In comment 16536506 uconngiant said: Quote: I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it. I think Disney has been trying to eliminate the political aspect of their content, but they had already made so much, there was no going back. I haven't started yet, but one of my issues with Star Wars, is the way they just casually have so many Jedi's. It used to be a novelty, not everyone under the sun is a Jedi. Not that way to expand the Star Wars universe IMHO. Andor, Mando, and The Bad Batch are Jedis? Hmmm... Must have missed that.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but there have been Jedi's in just about every series with the exception of Andor(which was fantastic BTW). It's just overkill.

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is the best live action SW since Mando season 1 so far. It has been excellent.

wow talk about a simp.... excellent?? L O L

comments that say this show is bad, you will get one that boasts how great it is. That lines right up with the fan reviews it has been getting on websites and such. This show is terrible. The writing stinks and it is cringeworthy

#3 weak weak, but I'll keep watching.
The SW hate is over the top. Andor in particular was really good.

Poorly written dialogue, worse delivery. This is starting to feel like it’s going to be BoBF levels of bad.

Carrie Ann Moss is kind of always cool, but can only do so much with what she’s given (same with that last Matrix movie, which was TURRRIBLE)

Andor is the exception to the rule, as was Rogue One. The Mandalorian started out strong, but it really seems to have lost its way. The rest of the shows are unwatchable sh*tstorms.
Although Obi-Wan’s singular redeeming quality is that it managed to distill the prequel trilogy into a three minute flashback montage, and it turns out that’s all we really needed.

Really the best non-original trilogy stuff is the animated stuff. Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch…they were awesome.

In comment 16536769 vonritz said:

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In comment 16536506 uconngiant said: Quote: I like Star Wars but this is just so bad. I won't watch another one until they drop the political crap from it. LOL! The first movie was literally about taking on an evil government dictatorship. Yeah, not too political...

He’s not talking about the politics within the story.