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ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:12 pm
Will start it today since I have time.

Anything Knicks, the league, draft, salary cap, etc asks away
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You hearing the same as i am  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 5:14 pm : link
that all hell could break loose once the finals is over because of the cap ramifications july 1st and the draft being so close to July 1st
Do you have a sense  
Jon In NYC : 6/13/2024 5:23 pm : link
of the Knicks key targets in the draft or via trade?
Who’s the biggest target(s)  
colin : 6/13/2024 5:24 pm : link
And who’s the most likely acquisition? Figured I’d get those out of the way, haha. By the way, really appreciate all the info you provide!
RE: You hearing the same as i am  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:25 pm : link
In comment 16536440 nygiants16 said:
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that all hell could break loose once the finals is over because of the cap ramifications july 1st and the draft being so close to July 1st


I don’t think there will be some massive movement of high impact players. Maybe a handful get moved but there will be a lot of movement with the Oubre type players. I could see contenders try to turn some of their high salary/middle impact guys into cheaper versions due to the cap. I wouldn’t classify it as “as hell breaking loose” but there will be some significant movement. Enough that may turn fringe contenders into play in teams and vice versa

I don’t see any stars moving.
RE: Do you have a sense  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:26 pm : link
In comment 16536447 Jon In NYC said:
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of the Knicks key targets in the draft or via trade?


draft info has been kinda dark this year but if I had to guess I’d say Tyler Smith, Dunn, Missi, Edey in that order.

Trade I think would be flipping Bojan for someone slightly better and younger, just uncertain of who
Oh, and…  
colin : 6/13/2024 5:27 pm : link
I know you mentioned in the past that you’d be shocked if OG moved on, is that still true? And what’s the general thought on Hartenstein staying or going?
RE: Who’s the biggest target(s)  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16536448 colin said:
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And who’s the most likely acquisition? Figured I’d get those out of the way, haha. By the way, really appreciate all the info you provide!


Biggest target: Booker, AD
Middle range: Bridges
Most likely: don’t have a specific name yet, but flipping Bojan for a wing upgrade
When do the bulls blow it up?  
JT039 : 6/13/2024 5:30 pm : link
They have to get rid of Lavine, Derozan, and Vucevic.
RE: Oh, and…  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16536454 colin said:
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I know you mentioned in the past that you’d be shocked if OG moved on, is that still true? And what’s the general thought on Hartenstein staying or going?


Still true.

I think the Knicks keep him. I could be wrong but I don’t get the sense a 4 year $100 mill deal is out there for him
RE: When do the bulls blow it up?  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16536456 JT039 said:
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They have to get rid of Lavine, Derozan, and Vucevic.


They should have already, I don’t think they do this summer and I think they regret it. Ownership is stubborn
You'd mentioned Caruso before.  
Jon In NYC : 6/13/2024 5:38 pm : link
Is that still on the table?

Gotta look up some more Tyler Smith. He wasn't really on my radar at all.
RE: You'd mentioned Caruso before.  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:40 pm : link
In comment 16536459 Jon In NYC said:
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Is that still on the table?

Gotta look up some more Tyler Smith. He wasn't really on my radar at all.


I think he is. Not sure if the Bulls make him available
What about OG and Hartenstein?  
robbieballs2003 : 6/13/2024 5:41 pm : link
I know you said you believe OG will be back for a relatively team friendly deal. Would IHart be the same? Are there any cap limitations on keeping both of them? And, finally, the same with Precious.
RE: RE: Who’s the biggest target(s)  
colin : 6/13/2024 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16536455 ajr2456 said:
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And who’s the most likely acquisition? Figured I’d get those out of the way, haha. By the way, really appreciate all the info you provide!



Biggest target: Booker, AD
Middle range: Bridges
Most likely: don’t have a specific name yet, but flipping Bojan for a wing upgrade


Wow very cool. Booker obviously the crown jewel but I’d thing highly unlikely no? And do you think he and Brunson fit well together? I’d love to just see them add a catch n shoot guy, like Korver was back in the day.

Great news on OG and iHart. I love the chemistry iHart brings.
RE: What about OG and Hartenstein?  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16536463 robbieballs2003 said:
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I know you said you believe OG will be back for a relatively team friendly deal. Would IHart be the same? Are there any cap limitations on keeping both of them? And, finally, the same with Precious.


I think all three are back pending if they make a trade. I think iharts deals comes in lower than what’s being speculated.

Knicks are going to be a second apron team if they keep both OG and ihart
I don’t see Booker or AD hitting the market  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:47 pm : link
I do think there may be a 10% chance of Lebron depending on the coaching hire
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robbieballs2003 : 6/13/2024 5:47 pm : link
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And who’s the most likely acquisition? Figured I’d get those out of the way, haha. By the way, really appreciate all the info you provide!



Biggest target: Booker, AD
Middle range: Bridges
Most likely: don’t have a specific name yet, but flipping Bojan for a wing upgrade



Wow very cool. Booker obviously the crown jewel but I’d thing highly unlikely no? And do you think he and Brunson fit well together? I’d love to just see them add a catch n shoot guy, like Korver was back in the day.

Great news on OG and iHart. I love the chemistry iHart brings.


We have so many catch and shoot guys. Our issue is not that but rather another creator on offense. When Brunson was hobbled and Randle was out, it completely threw off our offense. McBride, DD, Hart, OG, etc. can all catch and shoot.
Would you agree  
Jon In NYC : 6/13/2024 5:52 pm : link
it sounds like the Nets seem intent on keeping Bridges?
RE: I don’t see Booker or AD hitting the market  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16536469 ajr2456 said:
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I do think there may be a 10% chance of Lebron depending on the coaching hire


Sounds like Redick is the front runner now
I think their desire between the draft and trades in order  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:53 pm : link
1. Is a potential elite big (AD)
2. A creator (Booker)
3. A defensive wing (Bridges/caruso)


In the draft they want to add multiple position guys Smith could play the 3-4 and small ball 5 in spurts. Dunn defensively could play 3- small ball 5 but his offense has a ways to go. They know they need to improve the back of the bench after what happened with the injuries
Who are the teams  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 5:54 pm : link
that it sounds lkke they are ready to blow it up? Detroit? Chicago? Atlanta?
RE: Would you agree  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:54 pm : link
In comment 16536475 Jon In NYC said:
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it sounds like the Nets seem intent on keeping Bridges?


I don’t think it’s so much they want to keep him as they overrate his value
RE: Who are the teams  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:54 pm : link
In comment 16536478 nygiants16 said:
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that it sounds lkke they are ready to blow it up? Detroit? Chicago? Atlanta?


Atlanta really is it so far. I think Detroit is a blow it up team next year.
RE: RE: Who are the teams  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16536481 ajr2456 said:
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that it sounds lkke they are ready to blow it up? Detroit? Chicago? Atlanta?



Atlanta really is it so far. I think Detroit is a blow it up team next year.


Murray a target?
RE: RE: Would you agree  
Jon In NYC : 6/13/2024 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16536479 ajr2456 said:
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it sounds like the Nets seem intent on keeping Bridges?



I don’t think it’s so much they want to keep him as they overrate his value


That's positive, maybe there's a path forward even if the Knicks need to overpay. Bridges for Bogie and a bunch of picks I still think is a major step forward.

I unfortunately now have gotten irrationally excited about KD and am setting myself up for disappointment
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ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16536484 nygiants16 said:
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that it sounds lkke they are ready to blow it up? Detroit? Chicago? Atlanta?



Atlanta really is it so far. I think Detroit is a blow it up team next year.



Murray a target?


Think that ship has sailed
Do you think the Knicks will be agressive?  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 6:32 pm : link
or do you think they are happy to run it back?
RE: Do you think the Knicks will be agressive?  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:37 pm : link
In comment 16536516 nygiants16 said:
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or do you think they are happy to run it back?


That’s a tough one though answer. If AD, Booker or Giannis became available they’d aggressively pursue it. Otherwise I think they’re fine running it back with a Brunson-Dante-OG-Randle-ihart starting lineup and making some tweaks to the wings and depth. They’ll aggressively pursue fixes to the depth and backup wings but I don’t think many people will consider that being aggressive.

I think they’d like to bring Burks back as the 11/12 guy and he’d be cool with it in just not sure there’s a path for it
The Knicks are confident  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:38 pm : link
They can win a ring in the new apron era running it back. But obviously big move increases your chances
RE: RE: Do you think the Knicks will be agressive?  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16536519 ajr2456 said:
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or do you think they are happy to run it back?



That’s a tough one though answer. If AD, Booker or Giannis became available they’d aggressively pursue it. Otherwise I think they’re fine running it back with a Brunson-Dante-OG-Randle-ihart starting lineup and making some tweaks to the wings and depth. They’ll aggressively pursue fixes to the depth and backup wings but I don’t think many people will consider that being aggressive.

I think they’d like to bring Burks back as the 11/12 guy and he’d be cool with it in just not sure there’s a path for it


Thats fair, my worry is they become a 2nd apron team running it back and they get stuck
Fair concern  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:51 pm : link
But when they become a second apron team at least they’ll have contracts people want, unlike the Suns and some other teams
RE: The Knicks are confident  
bluefin : 6/13/2024 6:51 pm : link
In comment 16536520 ajr2456 said:
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They can win a ring in the new apron era running it back. But obviously big move increases your chances

January validates this confidence.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/13/2024 6:52 pm : link
Any Giannis buzz? I know it's a longshot, but figured I'd ask.
The Knicks are becoming a 2nd apron team  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:52 pm : link
Because they’ll have 8 or 9 guys on middle to low high dollar contracts, not because they have 3 aging super max contracts

They’ll be able to find ways to maneuver. It’ll have some uncomfortable decisions, but they’ll have ways.
RE: ...  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:53 pm : link
In comment 16536536 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Any Giannis buzz? I know it's a longshot, but figured I'd ask.


He has a deal with ownership that they’ll trade him if he asks, I don’t think he asks this year though. But it’s why resigning and overpaying Randle may be a good thing
Have you heard of any concerns  
bluefin : 6/13/2024 6:55 pm : link
about potential lingering issues with Randle’s shoulder?
ajr.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/13/2024 6:55 pm : link
Thanks!
RE: The Knicks are becoming a 2nd apron team  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16536537 ajr2456 said:
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Because they’ll have 8 or 9 guys on middle to low high dollar contracts, not because they have 3 aging super max contracts

They’ll be able to find ways to maneuver. It’ll have some uncomfortable decisions, but they’ll have ways.


Yeah thats my issue i dont want to have to trade Divo, Hart or OG to make a deal work, but i get if nothing is out there you cant force it
RE: Have you heard of any concerns  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16536542 bluefin said:
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about potential lingering issues with Randle’s shoulder?


He should be good to go
RE: ajr.  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16536544 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Thanks!


Anytime
RE: RE: The Knicks are becoming a 2nd apron team  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16536545 nygiants16 said:
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Because they’ll have 8 or 9 guys on middle to low high dollar contracts, not because they have 3 aging super max contracts

They’ll be able to find ways to maneuver. It’ll have some uncomfortable decisions, but they’ll have ways.



Yeah thats my issue i dont want to have to trade Divo, Hart or OG to make a deal work, but i get if nothing is out there you cant force it


I really think they get a ring out of this group without having to trade one of those guys
RE: RE: RE: The Knicks are becoming a 2nd apron team  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 7:03 pm : link
In comment 16536552 ajr2456 said:
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Because they’ll have 8 or 9 guys on middle to low high dollar contracts, not because they have 3 aging super max contracts

They’ll be able to find ways to maneuver. It’ll have some uncomfortable decisions, but they’ll have ways.



Yeah thats my issue i dont want to have to trade Divo, Hart or OG to make a deal work, but i get if nothing is out there you cant force it



I really think they get a ring out of this group without having to trade one of those guys


I hope so, in the other thread we were talking about KD and how perfrct he would be because his contract runs 2 years then they would create cap soace just in time to sign Bridges
I can’t see Kd buying into  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:08 pm : link
Thibs program
What are the Nets thinking?  
Sean : 6/13/2024 7:08 pm : link
I've read the Rockets are willing to offer a lot of the Nets draft capital back to them for Bridges. Are they going to try to recoup assets or build around Bridges?
RE: What are the Nets thinking?  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16536565 Sean said:
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I've read the Rockets are willing to offer a lot of the Nets draft capital back to them for Bridges. Are they going to try to recoup assets or build around Bridges?



They’ll trade Bridges but it’ll have to be on their terms. To be honest I don’t know who the Nets want to build around. They’re rudderless
First of thank you for everything you share over the years  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/13/2024 7:15 pm : link
Do you see them trading Mitch if IHart re-signs? Also any possibility they cut bait with Bogey and not guarantee the remainder of his contact?

Thank you again
RE: First of thank you for everything you share over the years  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16536572 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Do you see them trading Mitch if IHart re-signs? Also any possibility they cut bait with Bogey and not guarantee the remainder of his contact?

Thank you again


Not unless it’s for a start.

It’s possible if there’s nobody on the trade market they 👍
Star*  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:18 pm : link
That should say
What about KAT?  
Jon In NYC : 6/13/2024 7:22 pm : link
Sounds like the Wolves have to blow it up at some level
RE: What about KAT?  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16536580 Jon In NYC said:
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Sounds like the Wolves have to blow it up at some level


I don’t think there’s significant interest in KAT from what I heard
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