works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
RE: RE: Knicks film school is doing a Cap podcast figureing out how the money
works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
I can’t see Washington trading Deni for that package
Obviously draft picks would be involved
RE: RE: What is the point of trading Randle for PG?
“A league source indicated no immediate announcement was expected, but by the time that Anunoby can sign a new deal June 30 it’s hard to imagine it won’t get done”
RE: RE: Knicks film school is doing a Cap podcast figureing out how the money
works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
Found this which I think is interesting. Per 36 nearly identical in Rebounds and Assists and literally the exact same TS%. And Deni is 6 years younger.
RE: RE: RE: Knicks film school is doing a Cap podcast figureing out how the money
works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
Found this which I think is interesting. Per 36 nearly identical in Rebounds and Assists and literally the exact same TS%. And Deni is 6 years younger.
I think it’s fair to point out however that he’s generally getting those numbers against smaller defenders as he’s a SF while Julius is going against bigger bodies. If he replaces Randle is his being 30-40 lbs lighter than Randle going to impact his production? I don’t know the answer and Thibs is the guy to figure it out but I just think it’s worth noting
Leon Rose's daughter posted a picture of him "working the phones" last night. It may mean nothing but as most offseason shit goes, everyone is looking for hints to things going down.
I think the implication is Leon is working hard on trades and maybe something is close?
I do think we're in the window where any minute now a trade can be announced. Would not surprise me at all if all sides wanted this done before the draft so picks can be made with the future roster state in mind.
I think the implication is Leon is working hard on trades and maybe something is close?
I do think we're in the window where any minute now a trade can be announced. Would not surprise me at all if all sides wanted this done before the draft so picks can be made with the future roster state in mind.
I think George trade couod be announced today, tomorrow or thursday, i think George and the clippers will want the deal done with a couple of days to spare just in case..
a Mikal Bridges if its going to happen will haporn today or tomorrow because the Nets want a pick this yesr
take but I would be stunned if the Knicks didn't draft a center.
Precious is almost certainly gone. Mitch seems to be a likely trade candidate. By the end of the year Jericho was the 4th option.
Even if they sign Goga or Drummond or some backup to iHart, you're one achilles flare up from a 48 minute center rotation of Goga and Jericho.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen--- the demand for him was well above his level of play--- they could get young player and picks to be able to tank... instead they are looking to pair him... which he will be like 30 and on a bad contract by the time that could even happen--- so dumb
is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen--- the demand for him was well above his level of play--- they could get young player and picks to be able to tank... instead they are looking to pair him... which he will be like 30 and on a bad contract by the time that could even happen--- so dumb
yeah and we obsess in here on getting him to the Knicks but they don't have to deal with that at all with multiple teams interested they could drive his price sky high and deal him far away from the city to a team like Houston for a haul.
is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen--- the demand for him was well above his level of play--- they could get young player and picks to be able to tank... instead they are looking to pair him... which he will be like 30 and on a bad contract by the time that could even happen--- so dumb
What I don’t understand is what star they’re chasing to pair with Bridges. Donovan Mitchell was the hot name for awhile but all signs point to him extending with Cleveland. So that leaves, Trae Young? I have a feeling he’s not getting moved either
take but I would be stunned if the Knicks didn't draft a center.
Precious is almost certainly gone. Mitch seems to be a likely trade candidate. By the end of the year Jericho was the 4th option.
Even if they sign Goga or Drummond or some backup to iHart, you're one achilles flare up from a 48 minute center rotation of Goga and Jericho.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
Ware is one of my favorite potential picks for the Knicks. Missi would also be a good get. Maybe if they move up to the teens, Edey could be on the board as well
the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
la la, Knicks working out some players I really like. Mogbo really reminds me of a starter kit Josh Hart, Ware they will probably have to trade up for, Mitchell is a late bloomer who has *some* Brunson to his game and Freeman is a late bloomer who is NBA ready and could be a Thibs favorite.
"Ajay Mitchell, Jonathan Mogbo, Enrique Freeman, Kel’el Ware and Antonio Reeves have all worked out for the Knicks recently and presumably are on New York’s radar as the draft approaches."
the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
That’s only in a direct 2 team deal. In a 3 team deal, they could for example sign and trade Precious or Burks to send out additional salary. They could also use both their first round picks or use one first and a second to move up for a higher salary slot, sign those guys and wait a month to execute the deal so their salaries can be included. Like I said, it gets complicated but it is possible.
the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
This is not true
It absolutely is true. Go rewatch the KFS video again
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
That’s only in a direct 2 team deal. In a 3 team deal, they could for example sign and trade Precious or Burks to send out additional salary. They could also use both their first round picks or use one first and a second to move up for a higher salary slot, sign those guys and wait a month to execute the deal so their salaries can be included. Like I said, it gets complicated but it is possible.
Can't sign and trade and aggregate salaries so that's not an option.
Plus on top of all of this the Clippers as ajr said aren't just sitting on empty roster spots.
It's not feasible to not include Randle, keep OG and keep iHart, as much as I'd like to.
Can't sign and trade and aggregate salaries so that's not an option.
Plus on top of all of this the Clippers as ajr said aren't just sitting on empty roster spots.
It's not feasible to not include Randle, keep OG and keep iHart, as much as I'd like to.
Yes you can. Cavs did it with Sexton in the Mitchell trade. It just needs to be a multi-team trade because LAC can't acquire a player via sign and trade
What I've learned is that its folly to try and think we know the exact
logistics of the cap and salaries involved. Especially now in this new era of the draconian aprons. There are so many moving parts here with the opt out/option dates, July 1, July 6 etc...the way the order of the transactions can be manipulated, cap holds/quali offers and the draft thrown into the middle of all of this. Silly to fight over it. the teams pay experts a lot of money to figure this all out. Think it will all come to a head in the next 10 days or so. Rose is very meticulous in his planning and execution. I have faith that he has been preparing for this for years. I agree with NYGiants though about the PG thing. It will be decided definitely by Friday at the very latest and very possibly by Wed or Thursday with the draft picks hanging over it.
and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
It also occurred to me that the Knicks could be posturing in an attempt to get Randle to accept a team-friendly extension
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and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
It also occurred to me that the Knicks could be posturing in an attempt to get Randle to accept a team-friendly extension
Yeah i am sure they went to him early on and said if you dont want to extend thats fine, but then we are going to put you in trades
and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
RE: RE: My guess if Knicks are working hard on this
and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
He doesnt need to play games he has a team eith cap space, there are no reason for games..
If opt in and trades are being discussed its the clippers who initiated that scenario
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and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
He doesnt need to play games he has a team eith cap space, there are no reason for games..
If opt in and trades are being discussed its the clippers who initiated that scenario
He does not want to play for the teams that have cap space, this is a game of chicken. He wants to stay with LA, but wants the same extension that Kawhi Leonard got and the Clips seem to be balking at that. Thus, he threatens to opt in and wants a trade to GS or NYK, where they most likely will not get a player of PG's ability. We can talk about Randle being a good return and maybe he is, but I have said this before and I know it for a fact, other teams don't see Randle the way the Knicks do.
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
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works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
I can’t see Washington trading Deni for that package
Obviously draft picks would be involved
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I don't get it.
Fit, george is a better player, better matchup to beat Boston...
Also are you paying Randle 45 to 50 million next year?
Hmmmm Randle may not be here for too many more years...
I still don't want PG,he's not worth the $.
Patience is the best player here
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works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
Found this which I think is interesting. Per 36 nearly identical in Rebounds and Assists and literally the exact same TS%. And Deni is 6 years younger.
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works for a Paul George trsd eand he is theorizing that the Mitch and Wizards talks are actually part of a 3 team trade involving the Clippers and PG..
Knicks get: George and Deni
Clippers get: Randle and diakite
Mitch, Bojan and jefferies to Wizards
This would be an unbelievable trade. I am going to keep beating the drum that Deni is really good and is definitely the third best player in that trade.
Found this which I think is interesting. Per 36 nearly identical in Rebounds and Assists and literally the exact same TS%. And Deni is 6 years younger.
I think it’s fair to point out however that he’s generally getting those numbers against smaller defenders as he’s a SF while Julius is going against bigger bodies. If he replaces Randle is his being 30-40 lbs lighter than Randle going to impact his production? I don’t know the answer and Thibs is the guy to figure it out but I just think it’s worth noting
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I don't get it.
Leon Rose's daughter posted a picture of him "working the phones" last night. It may mean nothing but as most offseason shit goes, everyone is looking for hints to things going down.
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I don't get it.
I think the implication is Leon is working hard on trades and maybe something is close?
I do think we're in the window where any minute now a trade can be announced. Would not surprise me at all if all sides wanted this done before the draft so picks can be made with the future roster state in mind.
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I don't get it.
I think the implication is Leon is working hard on trades and maybe something is close?
I do think we're in the window where any minute now a trade can be announced. Would not surprise me at all if all sides wanted this done before the draft so picks can be made with the future roster state in mind.
I think George trade couod be announced today, tomorrow or thursday, i think George and the clippers will want the deal done with a couple of days to spare just in case..
a Mikal Bridges if its going to happen will haporn today or tomorrow because the Nets want a pick this yesr
Precious is almost certainly gone. Mitch seems to be a likely trade candidate. By the end of the year Jericho was the 4th option.
Even if they sign Goga or Drummond or some backup to iHart, you're one achilles flare up from a 48 minute center rotation of Goga and Jericho.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
yeah and we obsess in here on getting him to the Knicks but they don't have to deal with that at all with multiple teams interested they could drive his price sky high and deal him far away from the city to a team like Houston for a haul.
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AJR - any updates on your end on OG or a trade for PG?
What I don’t understand is what star they’re chasing to pair with Bridges. Donovan Mitchell was the hot name for awhile but all signs point to him extending with Cleveland. So that leaves, Trae Young? I have a feeling he’s not getting moved either
Precious is almost certainly gone. Mitch seems to be a likely trade candidate. By the end of the year Jericho was the 4th option.
Even if they sign Goga or Drummond or some backup to iHart, you're one achilles flare up from a 48 minute center rotation of Goga and Jericho.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
Ware is one of my favorite potential picks for the Knicks. Missi would also be a good get. Maybe if they move up to the teens, Edey could be on the board as well
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AJR - any updates on your end on OG or a trade for PG?
Nothing new
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
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the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
"Ajay Mitchell, Jonathan Mogbo, Enrique Freeman, Kel’el Ware and Antonio Reeves have all worked out for the Knicks recently and presumably are on New York’s radar as the draft approaches."
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the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
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Jonathan Mogbo recently had a pre-draft workout with the Knicks, per SNY’s @IanBegley
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Mogbo is 6’8 with a 7’2 wingspan and ranked second in the in class in dunks, behind Zach Edey
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
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The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
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The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
That’s only in a direct 2 team deal. In a 3 team deal, they could for example sign and trade Precious or Burks to send out additional salary. They could also use both their first round picks or use one first and a second to move up for a higher salary slot, sign those guys and wait a month to execute the deal so their salaries can be included. Like I said, it gets complicated but it is possible.
Zero chance OG is signed first, he cant become official until july 6th..George has to opt in by friday..
and even if OG signs first they arent a second apron team..
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the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
This is not true
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the Robinson rumors are in conjunction with a bigger Paul George trade, any talks involving him are because of the bigger deal
I haven't played around with the numbers yet but it's possible they're working on a way to send Kuzma to LAC who would be a nice fit there and makes ~$8M or so more than Mitch to match PG's contract. That makes more sense to me than them moving Avdija. Could be contingent on the draft too. I doubt they'd be as interested in Mitch if they wind up with Sarr at 2, unless it's more about whatever pick compensation they'd get vs the player.
Forgot to add, this would be in an effort to avoid having to include Randle
The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
This is not true
It absolutely is true. Go rewatch the KFS video again
49 for george
24 for Jalen
28 for Randle
18 for hart
11 for divo
thats 130..35 milion for og gets you to 165..
It may prevent you from signing Hartenstein but it wont prevent you from signing OG
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49 for george
24 for Jalen
28 for Randle
18 for hart
11 for divo
thats 130..35 milion for og gets you to 165..
It may prevent you from signing Hartenstein but it wont prevent you from signing OG
You're missing cap holds for like 11 guys and also you're just gonna let iHart walk and have no centers since Mitch is being traded?
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The problem is without Randle you’re sending out more than you’re taking back which hardcaps you and prevents you from signing OG
Not necessarily in a multi-team scenario but that gets complicated.
More likely though is that if they can get PG and keep Randle, they may be find with being hard capped. Order of operations matters though. They can agree on the deal with execute an OG extension before the PG deal is official
The only non Randle way to do is to send out Hart or Dante which I strongly doubt they will do
That’s only in a direct 2 team deal. In a 3 team deal, they could for example sign and trade Precious or Burks to send out additional salary. They could also use both their first round picks or use one first and a second to move up for a higher salary slot, sign those guys and wait a month to execute the deal so their salaries can be included. Like I said, it gets complicated but it is possible.
Can't sign and trade and aggregate salaries so that's not an option.
Plus on top of all of this the Clippers as ajr said aren't just sitting on empty roster spots.
It's not feasible to not include Randle, keep OG and keep iHart, as much as I'd like to.
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even if you get hard capped at 178..
49 for george
24 for Jalen
28 for Randle
18 for hart
11 for divo
thats 130..35 milion for og gets you to 165..
It may prevent you from signing Hartenstein but it wont prevent you from signing OG
You're missing cap holds for like 11 guys and also you're just gonna let iHart walk and have no centers since Mitch is being traded?
6 guys, so thats 8 cap holds..
2 spots for draft picks at around 3 million if they arent in the deal..
you can sign a couple of vet minimum deals like Andre drummond to fill spots..
Either way they will most likely use a 3rd team to circumvent being hard capped at the first apron and most likely be hard capped at apron 2..
This is way you stack the cupboard of picks
Can't sign and trade and aggregate salaries so that's not an option.
Plus on top of all of this the Clippers as ajr said aren't just sitting on empty roster spots.
It's not feasible to not include Randle, keep OG and keep iHart, as much as I'd like to.
Yes you can. Cavs did it with Sexton in the Mitchell trade. It just needs to be a multi-team trade because LAC can't acquire a player via sign and trade
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
It also occurred to me that the Knicks could be posturing in an attempt to get Randle to accept a team-friendly extension
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and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
It also occurred to me that the Knicks could be posturing in an attempt to get Randle to accept a team-friendly extension
Yeah i am sure they went to him early on and said if you dont want to extend thats fine, but then we are going to put you in trades
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
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and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
He doesnt need to play games he has a team eith cap space, there are no reason for games..
If opt in and trades are being discussed its the clippers who initiated that scenario
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and George is said to be leaning towards opting in..
Clippers must have paramters of a deal with someone, if its the Knicks, my guess is the deal they have set includes Randle and kNicks are trying to work one without Randle and if they cant they will do the deal they have the paramaters for
I think George is playing games and will stay with LA. He is just trying extract the best contract possible. He wants to stay in LA and be near his family.
He doesnt need to play games he has a team eith cap space, there are no reason for games..
If opt in and trades are being discussed its the clippers who initiated that scenario
He does not want to play for the teams that have cap space, this is a game of chicken. He wants to stay with LA, but wants the same extension that Kawhi Leonard got and the Clips seem to be balking at that. Thus, he threatens to opt in and wants a trade to GS or NYK, where they most likely will not get a player of PG's ability. We can talk about Randle being a good return and maybe he is, but I have said this before and I know it for a fact, other teams don't see Randle the way the Knicks do.
Threatening to opt in and asking for a trade is not a threat to the clippers...
The clippers ar einitiating the opt in discussions because they know they wont sign him and they also dont want to lose him for nothing..
and he doesnt want the Kawhi contract, he wants 4 years and max money