sure how many of these guys were given second workouts but Mogbo getting 2 is interesting. He's been projected round 2 but I've seen him as high as late 1.
Hollinger loves Mogbo
A LOT to like in regard to Mogbo. His lack of outside shot obviously limits his upside (unless of course you're buying that he supposedly has displayed surprisingly solid range in workouts, 69.2% from the line also *potentially* gives you some optimism there) but he runs the court like a guard, 7'2" wingspan, very good passer for his size
Sarr looking to pull an Eli by not working out for the Hawks, seems like very high odds it'll be Risacher #1 with some late buzz on Clingan. I don't envy the Hawks, what a crap year to pick 1st or even high at all.
Sarr looking to pull an Eli by not working out for the Hawks, seems like very high odds it'll be Risacher #1 with some late buzz on Clingan. I don't envy the Hawks, what a crap year to pick 1st or even high at all.
Has it been reported why he wants Washington and not Atlanta? Neither are dream destinations but it's an odd preference to have.
Sarr looking to pull an Eli by not working out for the Hawks, seems like very high odds it'll be Risacher #1 with some late buzz on Clingan. I don't envy the Hawks, what a crap year to pick 1st or even high at all.
Has it been reported why he wants Washington and not Atlanta? Neither are dream destinations but it's an odd preference to have.
He wouldn't answer the question today. He basically "blamed" his handlers. I guess theoretically, he'd be option #1 or #2 from the jump with the Wizards but even then...maybe he is trying to force his way to Houston or SA (far more appealing organizations) but he worked out for the Wizards so...
That trade would end up like when they got Kiki Vandeweigh and Rolando Blackman a year or 2 too late. Also, there would be a serious premium from the Heat.
ive wondered about that since he/heat started publicly bickering. seems like fit there if both sides can get past the all the history/baggage. think knicks seemingly have more they can offer heat than philly.
says he hears that the Knicks are going to make their picks and they will be players that fit Thibs is system.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
says he hears that the Knicks are going to make their picks and they will be players that fit Thibs is system.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
He mentioned Ware specifically - says he can do some of what Derek Lively did.
Mogbo has some things working against him, which is why I couldn’t quite get him into my top 20. He’s only 6-6 and played as a rim-running five at San Francisco, making zero 3-pointers and attempting only two all season. He’s already 22. And he didn’t play in a power conference.
Nonetheless, he becomes a compelling proposition because the strengths here are strong; if the shooting comes around at all, he has a great chance to be a steal in the back half of the draft. Mogbo played guard as a kid before a late growth spurt and handles the ball very well for his size, but more importantly, he is a good passer who averaged 7.4 dimes per 100 possessions – lofty stuff for a center. He’s able to push his own rebounds, lead the break and make decisions on the move and run actions from the elbows in the half court.
He combines that with a very different skill: elite rebounding, despite being an undersized center. His 22.0 percent rebound rate led the WCC and was fourth in the nation – just ahead of some guy named Zach Edey.
Mogbo has great instincts that show up behind his passing, particularly in a superb steal rate for a center (3.2 swipes per 100 possessions) and his high field goal percentage in the paint. While he’s not going to be rim-running for dunks except, perhaps, in brief cameos as a junk-ball five, he’s shown he has the all-court game to be a productive NBA forward. He reflected much of that in the NBA Draft Combine, where in 37 minutes across two games, he filled the stat sheet with 11 rebounds, seven assists and four steals.
Now, about the shooting: I’ve seen Mogbo shoot 3s before games, and his shot isn’t broken. He has a push shot from distance and it’s a bit slow, but he can be threatening enough to warrant at least some token degree of respect from defenses. He shot 69.2 percent from the line in his final college season.
At this point in the draft, I’d take those positives and the upside over the fairly meh outlooks of the rest of the field. Realistically, I expect Mogbo to be picked in the 40s or 50s, but I think he’s one of the most interesting players in this class.
ive wondered about that since he/heat started publicly bickering. seems like fit there if both sides can get past the all the history/baggage. think knicks seemingly have more they can offer heat than philly.
I think the Knicks and Heat have only made one trade ever and it was for Pat Riley so I don't think there's a chance in hell they'd trade Butler to the Knicks
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Rival executives are monitoring Tyus Jones as a possible sign-and-trade candidate from the Wizards, per @MikeAScotto
(https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-2024-nba-mock-draft-paul-george-tyrese-maxey-free-agency-zach-lavine-trade-talks/
).
like a guy who would benefit from playing with Brunson
An unusual player who requires several viewings to get a handle on, Mitchell is a strong lefty who has a variety of finishes in the paint area and thrived putting small guards in jail on the block. I’m not sure that will work as well in the NBA as it did in the Big West, but he has other skills to fall back on, as he showed at the combine when he ran the point for two games and handed out nine assists.
A big swing skill for Mitchell will be his 3-point shooting; he upped his percentage to 39.3 percent this past season but on very low volume. From a flat-footed standstill, he has a low release and it’s a bit slow getting out, but it’s fine – his 81.8 percent career mark from the line supports that.
Where things get weird is on the move, where it seems like a hidden grappling hook off screens is tugging him to his right; watching him shoot before a game, he consistently ended up several inches to the right of his takeoff spot. That balance issue is important because he will need to shoot 3s off the bounce at the next level, and right now, that’s not in his bag.
Physically, Mitchell is not an elite athlete by any stretch, but he has a strong base and a solid frame that should help him guard up a position on defense if he needs to. Mitchell has a Belgian passport, incidentally, but it seems unlikely that he would be selected as a stash pick.
Knicks apparently made an agressive pursuit for Caruso
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The New York Knicks made an aggressive push for Alex Caruso, offering draft capital, before Chicago decided to trade him to Oklahoma City, per
@KCJHoop
“League sources indicated that the New York Knicks and Sacramento Kings both offered draft capital to the Bulls in packages they felt were superior to the one-for-one deal. The Athletic previously reported the Kings' offer that featured the 13th overall pick in this week’s NBA Draft.”
says he hears that the Knicks are going to make their picks and they will be players that fit Thibs is system.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
He mentioned Ware specifically - says he can do some of what Derek Lively did.
It's nice that Hahn reads BBI:
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Im not sure this is a bold
Jon In NYC : 7:59 am : link : reply
take but I would be stunned if the Knicks didn't draft a center.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
RE: RE: Knicks apparently made an agressive pursuit for Caruso
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@TheDunkCentral
The New York Knicks made an aggressive push for Alex Caruso, offering draft capital, before Chicago decided to trade him to Oklahoma City, per
@KCJHoop
“League sources indicated that the New York Knicks and Sacramento Kings both offered draft capital to the Bulls in packages they felt were superior to the one-for-one deal. The Athletic previously reported the Kings' offer that featured the 13th overall pick in this week’s NBA Draft.”
This makes it hurt a bit more. I definitely wanted Caruso
The Bulls are so stupid. Easily the worst run team in the league
Is better than what you guys are giving him credit for. Look at his stats when SGA and Williams were out. He’d be a top 10 pick in this draft maybe higher.
The bulls are still dumb but Giddey is a good player, even if he likes underage girls.
No way in hell can I see Thibs moving Mitch and replacing him with a guy like Filipowski. I think he can be a nice get but I don't see Thibs not having a true rim protector and not have a guy that can bang with someone like Embiid.
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sure how many of these guys were given second workouts but Mogbo getting 2 is interesting. He's been projected round 2 but I've seen him as high as late 1.
Hollinger loves Mogbo
A LOT to like in regard to Mogbo. His lack of outside shot obviously limits his upside (unless of course you're buying that he supposedly has displayed surprisingly solid range in workouts, 69.2% from the line also *potentially* gives you some optimism there) but he runs the court like a guard, 7'2" wingspan, very good passer for his size
I'd be shocked if they didn't use at least 1 frp
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Hard to get too excited about the draft for the Knicks, because can't imagine them keeping these picks.
I'd be shocked if they didn't use at least 1 frp
I hope they do, some nice rotational pieces in the 15-40 range.
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Hard to get too excited about the draft for the Knicks, because can't imagine them keeping these picks.
I'd be shocked if they didn't use at least 1 frp
I think they trade 1 in either a kick the can or in a bigger trade..
The other they package with thwir 2nd and maybe a future pick to move up to the teens
Has it been reported why he wants Washington and not Atlanta? Neither are dream destinations but it's an odd preference to have.
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Sarr looking to pull an Eli by not working out for the Hawks, seems like very high odds it'll be Risacher #1 with some late buzz on Clingan. I don't envy the Hawks, what a crap year to pick 1st or even high at all.
Has it been reported why he wants Washington and not Atlanta? Neither are dream destinations but it's an odd preference to have.
He wouldn't answer the question today. He basically "blamed" his handlers. I guess theoretically, he'd be option #1 or #2 from the jump with the Wizards but even then...maybe he is trying to force his way to Houston or SA (far more appealing organizations) but he worked out for the Wizards so...
Also Berman says Knicks are interested jn joining the Jimmy Butler Sweepstakes
I feel like that site is run by 11 year old kids.
Also said OG negotiations and George negotiations have nothing to do with the other
That trade would end up like when they got Kiki Vandeweigh and Rolando Blackman a year or 2 too late. Also, there would be a serious premium from the Heat.
ive wondered about that since he/heat started publicly bickering. seems like fit there if both sides can get past the all the history/baggage. think knicks seemingly have more they can offer heat than philly.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
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says he hears that the Knicks are going to make their picks and they will be players that fit Thibs is system.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
He mentioned Ware specifically - says he can do some of what Derek Lively did.
Mogbo has some things working against him, which is why I couldn’t quite get him into my top 20. He’s only 6-6 and played as a rim-running five at San Francisco, making zero 3-pointers and attempting only two all season. He’s already 22. And he didn’t play in a power conference.
Nonetheless, he becomes a compelling proposition because the strengths here are strong; if the shooting comes around at all, he has a great chance to be a steal in the back half of the draft. Mogbo played guard as a kid before a late growth spurt and handles the ball very well for his size, but more importantly, he is a good passer who averaged 7.4 dimes per 100 possessions – lofty stuff for a center. He’s able to push his own rebounds, lead the break and make decisions on the move and run actions from the elbows in the half court.
He combines that with a very different skill: elite rebounding, despite being an undersized center. His 22.0 percent rebound rate led the WCC and was fourth in the nation – just ahead of some guy named Zach Edey.
Mogbo has great instincts that show up behind his passing, particularly in a superb steal rate for a center (3.2 swipes per 100 possessions) and his high field goal percentage in the paint. While he’s not going to be rim-running for dunks except, perhaps, in brief cameos as a junk-ball five, he’s shown he has the all-court game to be a productive NBA forward. He reflected much of that in the NBA Draft Combine, where in 37 minutes across two games, he filled the stat sheet with 11 rebounds, seven assists and four steals.
Now, about the shooting: I’ve seen Mogbo shoot 3s before games, and his shot isn’t broken. He has a push shot from distance and it’s a bit slow, but he can be threatening enough to warrant at least some token degree of respect from defenses. He shot 69.2 percent from the line in his final college season.
At this point in the draft, I’d take those positives and the upside over the fairly meh outlooks of the rest of the field. Realistically, I expect Mogbo to be picked in the 40s or 50s, but I think he’s one of the most interesting players in this class.
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claims the Knicks are interested in Jimmy
ive wondered about that since he/heat started publicly bickering. seems like fit there if both sides can get past the all the history/baggage. think knicks seemingly have more they can offer heat than philly.
I think the Knicks and Heat have only made one trade ever and it was for Pat Riley so I don't think there's a chance in hell they'd trade Butler to the Knicks
@esidery
Rival executives are monitoring Tyus Jones as a possible sign-and-trade candidate from the Wizards, per @MikeAScotto
(https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-2024-nba-mock-draft-paul-george-tyrese-maxey-free-agency-zach-lavine-trade-talks/
).
I don’t know why this gave me flashbacks to Phil Jackson drafting Frank over Donovan Mitchell because he “fit” the triangle offense better.
Id put this at a less than 10% chance.
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claims the Knicks are interested in Jimmy
Id put this at a less than 10% chance.
The interest or a deal getting done?
An unusual player who requires several viewings to get a handle on, Mitchell is a strong lefty who has a variety of finishes in the paint area and thrived putting small guards in jail on the block. I’m not sure that will work as well in the NBA as it did in the Big West, but he has other skills to fall back on, as he showed at the combine when he ran the point for two games and handed out nine assists.
A big swing skill for Mitchell will be his 3-point shooting; he upped his percentage to 39.3 percent this past season but on very low volume. From a flat-footed standstill, he has a low release and it’s a bit slow getting out, but it’s fine – his 81.8 percent career mark from the line supports that.
Where things get weird is on the move, where it seems like a hidden grappling hook off screens is tugging him to his right; watching him shoot before a game, he consistently ended up several inches to the right of his takeoff spot. That balance issue is important because he will need to shoot 3s off the bounce at the next level, and right now, that’s not in his bag.
Physically, Mitchell is not an elite athlete by any stretch, but he has a strong base and a solid frame that should help him guard up a position on defense if he needs to. Mitchell has a Belgian passport, incidentally, but it seems unlikely that he would be selected as a stash pick.
NBACentral
@TheDunkCentral
The New York Knicks made an aggressive push for Alex Caruso, offering draft capital, before Chicago decided to trade him to Oklahoma City, per
@KCJHoop
“League sources indicated that the New York Knicks and Sacramento Kings both offered draft capital to the Bulls in packages they felt were superior to the one-for-one deal. The Athletic previously reported the Kings' offer that featured the 13th overall pick in this week’s NBA Draft.”
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claims the Knicks are interested in Jimmy
Id put this at a less than 10% chance.
The interest or a deal getting done?
Both
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says he hears that the Knicks are going to make their picks and they will be players that fit Thibs is system.
I'll say this quite a few of the players they are being connected to seem like Thibs-types. I mean, yeah "duh" but I'm talking about players who seem like they can come in immediately and slide into the rotation or at least provide some depth.
He mentioned Ware specifically - says he can do some of what Derek Lively did.
It's nice that Hahn reads BBI:
Jon In NYC : 7:59 am : link : reply
take but I would be stunned if the Knicks didn't draft a center.
I think you need more talent in that room. I could see them trading up for Kel'el Ware who they just had in for a visit. You don't bring in a guy a few days before the draft unless there's serious interest, and Ware wouldn't make the trip unless he thought he could go there.
I think he's going to be a very good NBA player. Maybe not a star but I don't see anything Derrick Lively is doing right now that Ware can't. Definitely not a mauler but can shoot can block shots, has nice touch. I think he has a ton of upside.
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offering drsft capital but the Bulls chose Giddey
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@TheDunkCentral
The New York Knicks made an aggressive push for Alex Caruso, offering draft capital, before Chicago decided to trade him to Oklahoma City, per
@KCJHoop
“League sources indicated that the New York Knicks and Sacramento Kings both offered draft capital to the Bulls in packages they felt were superior to the one-for-one deal. The Athletic previously reported the Kings' offer that featured the 13th overall pick in this week’s NBA Draft.”
This makes it hurt a bit more. I definitely wanted Caruso
They took a player who doesnt even fit with their team, they already have Ayo and Coby and decide to add another guard who wants to start...
Meanwhile they want to brjng back derozan, it really makes no sense lol
The bulls are still dumb but Giddey is a good player, even if he likes underage girls.
Surprised they didnt even work him out
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