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ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:12 pm
Will start it today since I have time.

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Knicks hire Mo Cheeks  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 7:24 pm : link
As an assistant
RE: Knicks hire Mo Cheeks  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16536582 ajr2456 said:
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As an assistant


Bryant gone? i hope not, sojnded like Borrega was the favorite in Cleveland
I love Mitch just wish he had some offense in his game  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/13/2024 7:35 pm : link
So it would be possible they invest over 30 million into the center position
Thank you for the info  
nygiants16 : 6/13/2024 7:37 pm : link
it is going to be interesting to see how things change once the season is actually over and see if anyone requests a trade..

RE: RE: RE: RE: Who’s the biggest target(s)  
colin : 6/13/2024 7:46 pm : link
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And who’s the most likely acquisition? Figured I’d get those out of the way, haha. By the way, really appreciate all the info you provide!



Biggest target: Booker, AD
Middle range: Bridges
Most likely: don’t have a specific name yet, but flipping Bojan for a wing upgrade



Wow very cool. Booker obviously the crown jewel but I’d thing highly unlikely no? And do you think he and Brunson fit well together? I’d love to just see them add a catch n shoot guy, like Korver was back in the day.

Great news on OG and iHart. I love the chemistry iHart brings.



We have so many catch and shoot guys. Our issue is not that but rather another creator on offense. When Brunson was hobbled and Randle was out, it completely threw off our offense. McBride, DD, Hart, OG, etc. can all catch and shoot.


I hear ya, and I definitely agree that they need another creator, though Randle played that role in the past. Honestly, I may just be judging the team that went on that run which isn’t fair.

I’m sitting here like, “Well, Hart’s streaky as hell,” but he was playing through injury. OG, I wouldn’t call an assassin from deep but he’s no slouch either, and he was hurt. Divo was great, McBride shot above his weight class, but I think about things like the struggles from the stripe and it’s just so odd to me. I’ve never seen it where the entire team can be on or ice cold on a given night.

Again, I may have an odd case of recency bias, almost against the Knicks, but after watching 6 straight games of Maxey and Embiid - and I get that they’re the Sixer’s two best players - we don’t have anyone I’d consider automatic if you leave them open beyond the arc or from the FT line.
One last question regarding Bogey  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/13/2024 9:01 pm : link
Do you think they get an extension on the deadline to guarantee the remainder of his salary?
RE: One last question regarding Bogey  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16536632 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Do you think they get an extension on the deadline to guarantee the remainder of his salary?


If they asked for one, I’m sure Bogey would say yes
Is there still optimism that Brunson  
bceagle05 : 6/13/2024 9:37 pm : link
signs his extension this summer?
RE: Is there still optimism that Brunson  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16536655 bceagle05 said:
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signs his extension this summer?


They still appear to be optimistic
Thanks.  
bceagle05 : 6/13/2024 9:59 pm : link
The way Hart jokingly references it on their podcast makes me think it’s gonna happen.
One other one…  
bceagle05 : 6/13/2024 10:00 pm : link
Who do you think Philly targets with their cap space?
RE: One other one…  
ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16536670 bceagle05 said:
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Who do you think Philly targets with their cap space?


I think it’s PG and if they miss they’re in trouble
RE: RE: Knicks hire Mo Cheeks  
Optimus-NY : 6/14/2024 8:20 am : link
In comment 16536585 nygiants16 said:
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As an assistant



Bryant gone? i hope not, sojnded like Borrega was the favorite in Cleveland


I've heard rumors of Johnny Bryant leaving (e.g., to coach the Cavs), are there any legs to that rumor?
A few thoughts and AJ you tell me if i am way off  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 8:30 am : link
First i know you said no stars are expected to be available or ask out, i still would be shocked if at least 1 player doesnt ask out..

As far as the Leon Rose and Rich Paul meeting, i habe this gut feeling that it was about Lebron or AD coming to the Knicks..You mentioned 10% chance on Lebron, people mention Philly for Lebron but i think the only team he would leave LA for is the Knicks

To me Paul and Rose dont habe a sitdown over Jordan Clarkson, lol, I think it was about AD or Lebron coming to the Knicks, you have already mentioned AD a few times and even Perkins mentioned it...
RE: RE: RE: Knicks hire Mo Cheeks  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 8:31 am : link
In comment 16536756 Optimus-NY said:
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As an assistant



Bryant gone? i hope not, sojnded like Borrega was the favorite in Cleveland



I've heard rumors of Johnny Bryant leaving (e.g., to coach the Cavs), are there any legs to that rumor?


Last i saw was Borrega was the favorite
RE: I love Mitch just wish he had some offense in his game  
Anakim : 6/14/2024 8:35 am : link
In comment 16536588 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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So it would be possible they invest over 30 million into the center position


It's not just his lack of offense. He gets hurt EVERY SINGLE YEAR. He's proven he can't stay healthy.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Knicks hire Mo Cheeks  
Anakim : 6/14/2024 8:37 am : link
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Bryant gone? i hope not, sojnded like Borrega was the favorite in Cleveland



I've heard rumors of Johnny Bryant leaving (e.g., to coach the Cavs), are there any legs to that rumor?



Last i saw was Borrega was the favorite


Borrego or Atkinson
According to Katz  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 10:31 am : link
it sounds like the only Bridges will be traded is if he forces his way out and makes it loud because they view him as a costsr to a top star...They have been offered hoards of firsts and continue to sya they wont trade him..

Also said Knicks are eyeing this offseason to trade for a star but if no one asks out will eye this trade deadline..

Said if Kat is traded the easiest time to trade him will be at the draft to use his 36 million dollar number to match salaries and it would save the twolves almost 20 million
RE: A few thoughts and AJ you tell me if i am way off  
ajr2456 : 6/14/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16536767 nygiants16 said:
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First i know you said no stars are expected to be available or ask out, i still would be shocked if at least 1 player doesnt ask out..

As far as the Leon Rose and Rich Paul meeting, i habe this gut feeling that it was about Lebron or AD coming to the Knicks..You mentioned 10% chance on Lebron, people mention Philly for Lebron but i think the only team he would leave LA for is the Knicks

To me Paul and Rose dont habe a sitdown over Jordan Clarkson, lol, I think it was about AD or Lebron coming to the Knicks, you have already mentioned AD a few times and even Perkins mentioned it...


Probably right it was about someone big. I don’t think the Knicks are the only team Lebron would leave LA for. I think he’d go back to Cleveland to play with Mitchell or to Miami. The possible options are small though. I think Philly is a legitimate option if he leaves
RE: RE: A few thoughts and AJ you tell me if i am way off  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16536858 ajr2456 said:
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First i know you said no stars are expected to be available or ask out, i still would be shocked if at least 1 player doesnt ask out..

As far as the Leon Rose and Rich Paul meeting, i habe this gut feeling that it was about Lebron or AD coming to the Knicks..You mentioned 10% chance on Lebron, people mention Philly for Lebron but i think the only team he would leave LA for is the Knicks

To me Paul and Rose dont habe a sitdown over Jordan Clarkson, lol, I think it was about AD or Lebron coming to the Knicks, you have already mentioned AD a few times and even Perkins mentioned it...



Probably right it was about someone big. I don’t think the Knicks are the only team Lebron would leave LA for. I think he’d go back to Cleveland to play with Mitchell or to Miami. The possible options are small though. I think Philly is a legitimate option if he leaves


Thats true forgot about Cleveland, i wonder if Riley would go after Lebron..
AJ  
Pete44 : 6/14/2024 10:50 am : link
I agree with most of what you said, but I have heard louder rumblings on KAT and KD than you seem to. However, I did hear KD to GS is more likely than NYK, if he is traded.

Also was told that the meeting on Rich Paul was about multiple big-time players, at least 3. I think we can figure it out.

The Knick beats keep mentioning KAT as well, but who knows. I do see the fit, with or without Randle.
From what I understand  
ajr2456 : 6/14/2024 11:11 am : link
If Towns wasn’t about to make $60 million they would have made the deal already. Trading for Towns will make it very hard to operate as a second apron team.
RE: RE: I love Mitch just wish he had some offense in his game  
Mike in NJ : 6/14/2024 11:12 am : link
In comment 16536773 Anakim said:
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So it would be possible they invest over 30 million into the center position



It's not just his lack of offense. He gets hurt EVERY SINGLE YEAR. He's proven he can't stay healthy.


Yes Mitch gets hurt every year, but that isn't something unique to him. Kind of just comes with the territory with big guys. Look at the top centers in the league, outside of like Jokic and Gobert, they all miss a ton of games.
They’d also do KD  
ajr2456 : 6/14/2024 11:13 am : link
If it was “basically free”. Which I don’t see Suns doing, so that’s why I don’t think that happens
Nothing big in the hopper  
Carl in CT : 6/14/2024 11:13 am : link
At all at this time.
RE: Nothing big in the hopper  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16536894 Carl in CT said:
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At all at this time.


Not surprised things wont pick up until the finals are over
I think Suns will quietly shop KD  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 11:22 am : link
if they get an offer they like, they will trade him, if not they keep him and move on
I wonder if Terrance Shannon will move up draft boards  
Stu11 : 6/14/2024 12:37 pm : link
now that he has been acquitted. Saw a lot of B1G basketball this year and for my money he was the best all around player in the conference. I think if he slides to the bottom of the 1st rd/2nd he'll be a steal.
My thing with the Suns is  
ajr2456 : 6/14/2024 12:42 pm : link
If you aren’t trading Booker you have to keep KD because you’re not improving enough by trading KD.

The package isnt going to be big
RE: My thing with the Suns is  
Mike in NJ : 6/14/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16536988 ajr2456 said:
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If you aren’t trading Booker you have to keep KD because you’re not improving enough by trading KD.

The package isnt going to be big


Would the Knicks be willing to include Randle in a deal for KD? Maybe that moves the needle enough for Phoenix if it is Randle and picks.

Probably would make sense for the Knicks to move Julius in that scenario, where are you playing KD if Randle and OG are on the roster? You arent bringing any of those guys off the bench.
I don’t think they’d  
ajr2456 : 6/14/2024 1:05 pm : link
Give up more than one of the protected firsts with Randle for KD
Problem for the suns  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 1:28 pm : link
is Beal has a no trade, so even if you wanted to blow it up and start collecting draft picks and soreading out the cap, they couldnt
RE: Problem for the suns  
Stars_and_stripes : 6/14/2024 1:47 pm : link
In comment 16537045 nygiants16 said:
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is Beal has a no trade, so even if you wanted to blow it up and start collecting draft picks and soreading out the cap, they couldnt


I would think given the age and injury propensity of KD and Beal, they might welcome a Randle trade with a pick or two because it would kind of help them on multiple fronts:

1. Gives them a younger and arguably less injury risk player vs KD (even considering last years dirty play shoulder injury)
2. Gets them out of that monstrous ballooning contract of KD who is owed a lot of money next four years
3. Might get a pick or two in the process.

Randle is a 25/10/5 guy , he is a higher level of player than almost any team gets back when they trade away a superstar.

Randle is approx 27M (if traded prior to July 1st) + Bojan fully gtd at 19M + 1-2 First round picks

KD is 47M (if traded prior to July 1st)

The salaries match almost perfectly.



I highly doubt Randle would not be included but some fun math:

Mitchell Robinson 15M + Achiuwa 6M + McBride 4.7M + Sims 2.5M + D'Quan 2.5M + Bojan 19-20 gtd would get us close to KDs salary
RE: RE: Problem for the suns  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16537062 Stars_and_stripes said:
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is Beal has a no trade, so even if you wanted to blow it up and start collecting draft picks and soreading out the cap, they couldnt



I would think given the age and injury propensity of KD and Beal, they might welcome a Randle trade with a pick or two because it would kind of help them on multiple fronts:

1. Gives them a younger and arguably less injury risk player vs KD (even considering last years dirty play shoulder injury)
2. Gets them out of that monstrous ballooning contract of KD who is owed a lot of money next four years
3. Might get a pick or two in the process.

Randle is a 25/10/5 guy , he is a higher level of player than almost any team gets back when they trade away a superstar.

Randle is approx 27M (if traded prior to July 1st) + Bojan fully gtd at 19M + 1-2 First round picks

KD is 47M (if traded prior to July 1st)

The salaries match almost perfectly.



I highly doubt Randle would not be included but some fun math:

Mitchell Robinson 15M + Achiuwa 6M + McBride 4.7M + Sims 2.5M + D'Quan 2.5M + Bojan 19-20 gtd would get us close to KDs salary


KD only has 2 years lef ton his deal, its why many say he would be the guy to trade because they cna get the most for him
RE: RE: RE: Problem for the suns  
Stars_and_stripes : 6/14/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16537064 nygiants16 said:
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is Beal has a no trade, so even if you wanted to blow it up and start collecting draft picks and soreading out the cap, they couldnt



I would think given the age and injury propensity of KD and Beal, they might welcome a Randle trade with a pick or two because it would kind of help them on multiple fronts:

1. Gives them a younger and arguably less injury risk player vs KD (even considering last years dirty play shoulder injury)
2. Gets them out of that monstrous ballooning contract of KD who is owed a lot of money next four years
3. Might get a pick or two in the process.

Randle is a 25/10/5 guy , he is a higher level of player than almost any team gets back when they trade away a superstar.

Randle is approx 27M (if traded prior to July 1st) + Bojan fully gtd at 19M + 1-2 First round picks

KD is 47M (if traded prior to July 1st)

The salaries match almost perfectly.



I highly doubt Randle would not be included but some fun math:

Mitchell Robinson 15M + Achiuwa 6M + McBride 4.7M + Sims 2.5M + D'Quan 2.5M + Bojan 19-20 gtd would get us close to KDs salary



KD only has 2 years lef ton his deal, its why many say he would be the guy to trade because they cna get the most for him


I thought it was 4 more years as I think I was quickly scanning the page and thought Beals contract was KD's .

Yeah that 2 year deal makes him more tradeable for sure. All depends on the direction they want to go I guess. If it's all about next year for them I could see them say no. But if they like Randle enough and want to try different chemistry or want the 50+ M cap relief for 2025-26 (both Randle and Bojan expire by then) it might have a shot.
According to windy  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 2:18 pm : link
Paul George and Clippers not on the same page when it comes to contract talks
Nobody leaving coaching staff  
nygiants16 : 6/14/2024 4:36 pm : link
Cheeks just being added
RE: RE: Do you have a sense  
Jon In NYC : 6/14/2024 6:30 pm : link
In comment 16536452 ajr2456 said:
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of the Knicks key targets in the draft or via trade?



draft info has been kinda dark this year but if I had to guess I’d say Tyler Smith, Dunn, Missi, Edey in that order.

Trade I think would be flipping Bojan for someone slightly better and younger, just uncertain of who


I’m on my phone so can’t link but I just saw that Smith worked out for the Knicks recently
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BigBlueShock : 6/14/2024 6:35 pm : link
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of the Knicks key targets in the draft or via trade?



draft info has been kinda dark this year but if I had to guess I’d say Tyler Smith, Dunn, Missi, Edey in that order.

Trade I think would be flipping Bojan for someone slightly better and younger, just uncertain of who



I’m on my phone so can’t link but I just saw that Smith worked out for the Knicks recently

You can provide links from your phone too…fyi, lol
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Jon In NYC : 6/14/2024 6:41 pm : link
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of the Knicks key targets in the draft or via trade?



draft info has been kinda dark this year but if I had to guess I’d say Tyler Smith, Dunn, Missi, Edey in that order.

Trade I think would be flipping Bojan for someone slightly better and younger, just uncertain of who



I’m on my phone so can’t link but I just saw that Smith worked out for the Knicks recently


You can provide links from your phone too…fyi, lol


I know but it’s marginally more difficult and I was feeling lazy lol
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Woj said Derrick White would probably replace Kawhi  
nygiants16 : 6/15/2024 9:51 am : link
for team USA if he cant play, How is he still hurt? He hasnt played a game in 3 months..That extension is going to be terrible
RE: Nobody leaving coaching staff  
Optimus-NY : 6/15/2024 10:20 am : link
In comment 16537141 nygiants16 said:
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Cheeks just being added


Excellent. Losing Bryant would've hurt and sucked. I'm guessing he'd be the Knicks' next HC once Thibs is ready to hang 'em up.
Off topic but Barkley  
bceagle05 : 6/15/2024 10:23 am : link
says he’s retiring from TV work after next year, regardless of what happens. So it’s the swan song for that show either way.
New  
Jon In NYC : 6/15/2024 3:49 pm : link
Hoopshype mock draft.

Few notable comments:

Sounds like the Suns are targeting Kolek at 22 which certainly makes sense.

Knicks take Missi and Dunn which I think most would sign up for.

Tyler Smith was on the board and goes 26. Gets compared to Naz Reid which I love as a player comp and also a fit on this team. Apparently we tried to get a Reid last offseason.
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NbA Finals game 5 is tonight  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 8:48 am : link
remember if the Celtics win teams can immediately start negotiating with their own players, So a guy like Maxey will probably be announced right away..

It will be interesting to see if the Knicks can lock down OG before July 1st, i dont expect them to be able to with Hartenstein because they have a limit on what they can offer..

Also Windy for the first time mentioned the kNicms in the Paul George talks, now he underlined it as an example for a Paul George opt in and trade but Windy wouldnt mention the Knicks like that..

He also said OG could still test the market but expects him to return to the Knicks
so did Windhorst  
Enzo : 6/17/2024 12:01 pm : link
say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.
RE: New  
Anakim : 6/17/2024 12:12 pm : link
In comment 16537509 Jon In NYC said:
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Hoopshype mock draft.

Few notable comments:

Sounds like the Suns are targeting Kolek at 22 which certainly makes sense.

Knicks take Missi and Dunn which I think most would sign up for.

Tyler Smith was on the board and goes 26. Gets compared to Naz Reid which I love as a player comp and also a fit on this team. Apparently we tried to get a Reid last offseason. Link - ( New Window )



IDK how I feel about Dunn. I know he's possibly the best perimeter defensive player in the Draft, but he is an ATROCIOUS offensive player.
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Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16538340 Anakim said:
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Hoopshype mock draft.

Few notable comments:

Sounds like the Suns are targeting Kolek at 22 which certainly makes sense.

Knicks take Missi and Dunn which I think most would sign up for.

Tyler Smith was on the board and goes 26. Gets compared to Naz Reid which I love as a player comp and also a fit on this team. Apparently we tried to get a Reid last offseason. Link - ( New Window )




IDK how I feel about Dunn. I know he's possibly the best perimeter defensive player in the Draft, but he is an ATROCIOUS offensive player.


I hear you, with maybe a slight adjustment in that he’s a horrific shooter, not a horrific offensive player. He shot over 50% from the field is a plus offensive rebounder and has a nice handle.

But he has the same jumper I do. He won’t play meaningful minutes until that’s fixed. But if it is he’s OG 2.0. I think worth a swing with a late first in a bad draft.
RE: so did Windhorst  
Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16538325 Enzo said:
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say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.


I think so too. They’re already offering him more money than the opt in so really tough to see a path to NYK unless George wants to play here the most.

I need Devin Booker to force a trade here in the worst way.
RE: RE: so did Windhorst  
Enzo : 6/17/2024 12:47 pm : link
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say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.



I think so too. They’re already offering him more money than the opt in so really tough to see a path to NYK unless George wants to play here the most.

I need Devin Booker to force a trade here in the worst way.

when Leon was hired I think Booker or Embiid would have been possible. But once the Suns were sold and once Morey was hired, the chances of either dropped to zero.
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