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ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:12 pm
Will start it today since I have time.

Anything Knicks, the league, draft, salary cap, etc asks away
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RE: so did Windhorst  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16538325 Enzo said:
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say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.


He basically tried to outline like for example the Knicks can trade for PG if he opts in, and everyone jncluding Alan Hahn said oh he would be great fit in NY
RE: RE: RE: so did Windhorst  
Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 12:59 pm : link
In comment 16538367 Enzo said:
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say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.



I think so too. They’re already offering him more money than the opt in so really tough to see a path to NYK unless George wants to play here the most.

I need Devin Booker to force a trade here in the worst way.


when Leon was hired I think Booker or Embiid would have been possible. But once the Suns were sold and once Morey was hired, the chances of either dropped to zero.


What happened to the good ol days when NBA stars were whiny babies and demanded trades publicly?

Durant 3x, Harden, Kyrie, Lillard, Ant, Kawhi, etc etc.
RE: RE: so did Windhorst  
Enzo : 6/17/2024 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16538371 nygiants16 said:
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say the Knicks would be in play for PG or they wouldn't?

Regardless, I think at the end of the day, PG wants LA and LA wants PG. I think they figure out the $$.



He basically tried to outline like for example the Knicks can trade for PG if he opts in, and everyone jncluding Alan Hahn said oh he would be great fit in NY

gotcha. I imagine quite a few teams would be interested in that scenario.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 1:02 pm : link
like the Bulls will hold onto Caruso.
RE: RE: RE: New  
Anakim : 6/17/2024 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16538361 Jon In NYC said:
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Hoopshype mock draft.

Few notable comments:

Sounds like the Suns are targeting Kolek at 22 which certainly makes sense.

Knicks take Missi and Dunn which I think most would sign up for.

Tyler Smith was on the board and goes 26. Gets compared to Naz Reid which I love as a player comp and also a fit on this team. Apparently we tried to get a Reid last offseason. Link - ( New Window )




IDK how I feel about Dunn. I know he's possibly the best perimeter defensive player in the Draft, but he is an ATROCIOUS offensive player.



I hear you, with maybe a slight adjustment in that he’s a horrific shooter, not a horrific offensive player. He shot over 50% from the field is a plus offensive rebounder and has a nice handle.

But he has the same jumper I do. He won’t play meaningful minutes until that’s fixed. But if it is he’s OG 2.0. I think worth a swing with a late first in a bad draft.


If I had my druthers, I'd package one of our picks with our second rounder to move up a bit. If we can come away with two of Kel'El Ware, Tyler Smith, Bub Carrington, and Jared McCain, I'd consider that a major win.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 1:04 pm : link
like Kel’el Ware will be long gone by the time the Knicks pick even with a moderate move up.
RE: Sounds  
Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16538377 DanMetroMan said:
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like the Bulls will hold onto Caruso.


That would suck. What did you read?
RE: RE: Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16538381 Jon In NYC said:
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like the Bulls will hold onto Caruso.



That would suck. What did you read?


Will Gottlieb

"“According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the Bulls have received offers from multiple teams, consisting of multiple protected first-round picks. One of those deals included a pick in the top-10 of the 2024 Draft, the source said. The Golden State Warriors were among teams who made a strong offer for Caruso, multiple sources confirmed…the source indicated that there was a mandate from the Reinsdorfs to fight for the Playoffs. That, no doubt, impacted the front office’s decision making when it came to pulling the trigger on any Caruso deal.” "
RE: RE: RE: Sounds  
Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16538382 DanMetroMan said:
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like the Bulls will hold onto Caruso.



That would suck. What did you read?



Will Gottlieb

"“According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the Bulls have received offers from multiple teams, consisting of multiple protected first-round picks. One of those deals included a pick in the top-10 of the 2024 Draft, the source said. The Golden State Warriors were among teams who made a strong offer for Caruso, multiple sources confirmed…the source indicated that there was a mandate from the Reinsdorfs to fight for the Playoffs. That, no doubt, impacted the front office’s decision making when it came to pulling the trigger on any Caruso deal.” "


That’s so fucking stupid. They’re going to lose him for nothing.
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DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 1:06 pm : link
"Having passed on opportunities to trade him, the Bulls must look more seriously at the trade market or attempt to extend him before he becomes a free agent.

They may have the inside track on keeping him — it’s possible Caruso, given his perpetual risk of injury, prefers to lock in long-term security with an extension. He may instead prefer to test free agency where he will likely attract equal or better offers in team contexts more conducive to winning.
Good  
DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 1:15 pm : link
read from Begley

BOGDANOVIC’S ROLE

Let’s start with Bojan Bogdanovic. His contract is currently guaranteed for $2 million. It becomes fully guaranteed at $19 million on June 28. If you’re thinking about a significant trade, the Knicks' decision on Bogdanovic is key.

Here’s Gozlan: "I think it makes sense to keep him and guarantee him for the upcoming season if the Knicks feel like there is a trade for an All-Star on the horizon. Attaching his $19 million with Julius Randle's $28.9 million allows them to match for just about anyone. If Bogdanovic is gone, they likely need to trade Josh Hart or Mitchell Robinson, or even try to get Precious Achiuwa involved in a sign-and-trade to get enough money to send out."
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I wonder at what point  
Enzo : 6/17/2024 1:22 pm : link
they'd consider moving Hart or DVD in a trade.
RE: I wonder at what point  
Anakim : 6/17/2024 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16538393 Enzo said:
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they'd consider moving Hart or DVD in a trade.


I'd imagine Brunson would be quite disgruntled
RE: RE: I wonder at what point  
Enzo : 6/17/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16538394 Anakim said:
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they'd consider moving Hart or DVD in a trade.



I'd imagine Brunson would be quite disgruntled

hence the question. They're clearly not untouchable level players but it's safe to say they're part of the core going forward. But there's a point where you start talking about potentially acquiring players of a certain caliber - and Brunson's feelings just won't be enough to keep them out of the deal.
RE: RE: RE: I wonder at what point  
ILGMan : 6/17/2024 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16538398 Enzo said:
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they'd consider moving Hart or DVD in a trade.



I'd imagine Brunson would be quite disgruntled


hence the question. They're clearly not untouchable level players but it's safe to say they're part of the core going forward. But there's a point where you start talking about potentially acquiring players of a certain caliber - and Brunson's feelings just won't be enough to keep them out of the deal.


I can't imagine they would make any move the Brunson is not 100% on board with until after he signs an extension. And even then he deserves a full season with his core and OG mixed in, whether it includes Randle or a substitution. I imagine even the Randall question is whether Brunson wants to play with him or not.
At this moment in time it seems like they'll look to mostly  
Stu11 : 6/17/2024 1:49 pm : link
run it back with some moves on the margins/draft picks. Of course that could always change if some star asks out. Unless a deal presents itself by June 28 you probably have to pick up Bojan's option. I get this crashes us into the 2nd Apron, but like others have mentioned we can operate as a 2nd apron team because of the fact none of our contracts are bad at all. This could change when/if Randle signs an extension, but that wouldn't be until August at the earliest and they can put it off if they want.
RE: At this moment in time it seems like they'll look to mostly  
Carl in CT : 6/17/2024 4:07 pm : link
In comment 16538404 Stu11 said:
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run it back with some moves on the margins/draft picks. Of course that could always change if some star asks out. Unless a deal presents itself by June 28 you probably have to pick up Bojan's option. I get this crashes us into the 2nd Apron, but like others have mentioned we can operate as a 2nd apron team because of the fact none of our contracts are bad at all. This could change when/if Randle signs an extension, but that wouldn't be until August at the earliest and they can put it off if they want.


Yup Stu looks like the same team with maybe a draft pick (if we keep one). Looks like no bargain studs out there. Unless you want Chicago’s headache. I just don’t see (or heard) anything of substance.
Good  
DanMetroMan : 6/17/2024 4:43 pm : link
read as always from Fred Katz
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I dont think they flat out just run it back  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 5:02 pm : link
I dont think they can, it doesnt make sense to, picking up Bogies contract and keeping it on the books will put them into apron 2 and makes it nearly impossible to trade for a star..

They will make a deal, how big? who knows but they will make a deal
RE: Good  
Stu11 : 6/17/2024 6:34 pm : link
In comment 16538488 DanMetroMan said:
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read as always from Fred Katz Link - ( New Window )

Yeah it was a good read. He made a great point that even the first apron is pretty restrictive in that trades have to be dollar for dollar making it near impossible for 2 teams over the 1st apron to make a trade with each other without getting a 3rd team involved.
I know this stuff means little to nothing  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 8:33 pm : link
but the Knicks are the betting favorite to land Jarret Allen if he leaves Cleveland
RE: I know this stuff means little to nothing  
Jon In NYC : 6/17/2024 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16538589 nygiants16 said:
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but the Knicks are the betting favorite to land Jarret Allen if he leaves Cleveland


Forget iHart is he even better than a healthy Mitch?
RE: I know this stuff means little to nothing  
BigBlueShock : 6/17/2024 8:44 pm : link
In comment 16538589 nygiants16 said:
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but the Knicks are the betting favorite to land Jarret Allen if he leaves Cleveland

Yuck. That dude is soft as butter. And I’m tired of centers with zero offensive game
RE: RE: I know this stuff means little to nothing  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16538596 BigBlueShock said:
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but the Knicks are the betting favorite to land Jarret Allen if he leaves Cleveland


Yuck. That dude is soft as butter. And I’m tired of centers with zero offensive game


He is very talented, and there is a part of me that would love to see what Thibs could do with him but yeha he is softer than tissue power
Lets start the offseason!!  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2024 10:01 pm : link
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Bogie  
Jon In NYC : 6/18/2024 11:07 am : link
And a pick this year for Sexton could make sense.

They need a scoring PG for the second unit and as a Brunson fill in.

Saves 3 mil off the cap too
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RE: Bogie  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16538845 Jon In NYC said:
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And a pick this year for Sexton could make sense.

They need a scoring PG for the second unit and as a Brunson fill in.

Saves 3 mil off the cap too Link - ( New Window )


Utah is interesting, Markannen is going to be an UFA after next yesr, does he sign an extension or will he force their hand to trade him
,  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 12:39 pm : link
Let the negotiations begin  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2024 12:46 pm : link
My favorite part about watching it was Jay Williams chiming in at the end, "oh yeah i have heard that to" Shut up
there's lots of  
Enzo : 6/18/2024 12:51 pm : link
wiggle room on an OG contract since IMO he's not a clear cut full max player. And maybe he wants a shorter deal so he can get an even bigger deal in 3 years? He's still pretty young. Rose better not f--k this up.
Lol you guys have to admit though  
Stu11 : 6/18/2024 12:51 pm : link
It would be the Knickiest thing ever to F this up
Redick  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 12:54 pm : link
the next Lakers coach per Irwin.
I have said all along...  
Jan in DC : 6/18/2024 12:54 pm : link
that he probably isn't taking less to stay with the Knicks. So his agents will go out and talk to the 76ers, they'll offer him higher than what the Knicks will and then the Knicks ultimately match that.

That's how I think it plays out.
RE: Bogie  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/18/2024 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16538845 Jon In NYC said:
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And a pick this year for Sexton could make sense.

They need a scoring PG for the second unit and as a Brunson fill in.

Saves 3 mil off the cap too Link - ( New Window )


It will take 2 future unrestricted #1s to get Ainge to pick up the phone.
Partial  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 12:55 pm : link
list of players the Knicks have worked out



436

24
Ryan Dunn
Virginia PF So
437
25
Tyler Smith
G League Ignite PF 2004
438
NR
Bryan Antoine
Radford SG Sr
439
NR
Mohamed Diarra
North Carolina St C Jr
440
NR
Coleman Hawkins
Illinois PF Sr
441
NR
Joseph Girard III
Clemson PG Sr
442
NR
Andrija Jelavic
Mega Basket PF 2004
443
NR
Malevy Leons
Bradley PF Sr
444
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Jahmir Young
Maryland PG Sr
Begley  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 12:56 pm : link
We know they’ve worked out Virginia’s Ryan Dunn. They also recently had Creighton’s Baylor Scheierman in for a group workout, per sources
OG  
TyreeHelmet : 6/18/2024 12:57 pm : link
Has all the leverage. They have no means to replace him, clearly gave up a lot to get him and he would immediately make Philly better than the Knicks.

Knicks have too much to lose. They have to pay him what he wants. It would be insane to let him walk.
RE: I have said all along...  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16538968 Jan in DC said:
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that he probably isn't taking less to stay with the Knicks. So his agents will go out and talk to the 76ers, they'll offer him higher than what the Knicks will and then the Knicks ultimately match that.

That's how I think it plays out.


One of his agents is Sam Rose, the other was hired by Leon Rose...

Think about it this way, thia report came out on Monday, they werent able to start negotiations until today but he is already mad?
Sixers can  
Enzo : 6/18/2024 1:05 pm : link
offer him 4/182. But I'm curious if they'd really go near that number. Even if they sign him or get PG - they have to fill out the rest of their roster. Pretty much everyone on the team other than Embiid and Maxey is a free agent.
RE: RE: I have said all along...  
Jan in DC : 6/18/2024 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16538976 nygiants16 said:
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that he probably isn't taking less to stay with the Knicks. So his agents will go out and talk to the 76ers, they'll offer him higher than what the Knicks will and then the Knicks ultimately match that.

That's how I think it plays out.



One of his agents is Sam Rose, the other was hired by Leon Rose...

Think about it this way, thia report came out on Monday, they werent able to start negotiations until today but he is already mad?


Oh, the report is probably bullshit.

But I do think that his agents will talk to other teams, find the highest contract they can, and come back to the Knicks and allow them to match it.

Wouldn't surprise me if the standing offer is like 4/140 and he gets an offer for 4/160 and then the Knicks match.
my problem with these type of reports  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2024 1:21 pm : link
they all end the same way with, well he is most likely signing with the Knicks bit they make it out to be something when in reality it isnt..

I like Windhorst to and think he is legit and i am sure he has heard he wont sign before free agency..
supposedly Siakam  
Enzo : 6/18/2024 1:29 pm : link
is close to extending. He's starting from a higher contract value so an extension is not necessarily a below market deal in his case.
OG  
Pete44 : 6/18/2024 1:48 pm : link
I have confidence in this FO, there are questions about OG and his durability, so why start off with the highest offer. He is CAA and you know the Knicks will have an opportunity to match. Let's see if Philly or OKC or anyone actually makes an offer to OG.
RE: Begley  
Anakim : 6/18/2024 2:32 pm : link
In comment 16538971 DanMetroMan said:
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We know they’ve worked out Virginia’s Ryan Dunn. They also recently had Creighton’s Baylor Scheierman in for a group workout, per sources


There's your Bojan replacement
Money  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 2:58 pm : link
talks but it's been said OG didn't love playing for Nick Nurse.
Need AJ to chime in  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2024 3:01 pm : link
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From  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 3:17 pm : link
what I can tell, that stems from the idea that OG wanted to be more involved in the offense, at times be the primary ball handler and Nurse didn't allow him to do so. Now if this bothered OG because he felt it was going to cost him money... but the Sixers make the highest bid, it probably won't matter. Who knows if it's even true?
,  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 3:18 pm : link
Scott Agness
@ScottAgness
The Pacers are nearing a long-term contract extension with forward Pascal Siakam, league sources told Fieldhouse Files.

Both sides know how each other feels + want the partnership to continue. Story to come.
RE: Need AJ to chime in  
ajr2456 : 6/18/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16539081 nygiants16 said:
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Smoke screen to avoid tampering
RE: RE: Need AJ to chime in  
Jon In NYC : 6/18/2024 4:24 pm : link
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Smoke screen to avoid tampering


Have you heard what the contract could/will look like?
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