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ajr2456 : 6/13/2024 5:12 pm
Will start it today since I have time.

Anything Knicks, the league, draft, salary cap, etc asks away
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Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2024 5:16 pm : link
didn't have a shot with Caruso if that's the kind of return the Bulls wanted.
RE: Woj Bomb  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16540351 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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BREAKING: The Chicago Bulls are trading two-time All-Defensive guard Alex Caruso to the Oklahoma City Thunder for guard Josh Giddey, sources tell ESPN.

Love that for OKC. Chicago really should've went the pick route in a Caruso trade but they seem hellbent on making that play in year after year
RE: This can't be good for the Knicks  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16540340 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Unless this is the Sixers posturing to nudge George and the clippers

PG might just not have any interest in going to Philly
RE: RE: This can't be good for the Knicks  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16540356 Strahan91 said:
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Unless this is the Sixers posturing to nudge George and the clippers


PG might just not have any interest in going to Philly


Why? I'm here 😁
RE: Knicks  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16540353 DanMetroMan said:
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didn't have a shot with Caruso if that's the kind of return the Bulls wanted.


I'm not sure Giddey is better than Mitch + 1sts unless you really think Giddey has a lot more in the tank. He was very bad last year.
Philly  
Pete44 : 6/20/2024 5:25 pm : link
Rumor has it their attention is on Jimmy Butler
According to Evan Sidery  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 5:25 pm : link
Involving Alex Caruso, the Bulls had multiple offers on the table at the trade deadline for first-round draft capital.

Chicago instead decided to continue pushing forward for a playoff push.

Another example of bad asset management from Chicago waiting too long to capitalize.


I wonder if Leon made a play
Hopefully  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 5:26 pm : link
this starts the floodgates. PG not going to the Sixers news and this trade in quick succession.
RE: RE: Knicks  
Pete44 : 6/20/2024 5:27 pm : link
In comment 16540367 Jon In NYC said:
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didn't have a shot with Caruso if that's the kind of return the Bulls wanted.


Giddy is a good player - when SGA or Williams were out his stats were very good. He is a good sidekick to Coby white


I'm not sure Giddey is better than Mitch + 1sts unless you really think Giddey has a lot more in the tank. He was very bad last year.
RE: Philly  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 5:27 pm : link
In comment 16540369 Pete44 said:
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Rumor has it their attention is on Jimmy Butler


Good. I think he's getting very close to washed territory.
RE: RE: Philly  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16540376 Jon In NYC said:
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Rumor has it their attention is on Jimmy Butler



Good. I think he's getting very close to washed territory.


I'm fine with that... The whole Playoff Jimmy thing is stupid as he's won the same number of championships as Truck Robinson
recently I posted  
Enzo : 6/20/2024 5:34 pm : link
a potential 3 way:
OKC gets Mitch
Knicks get Caruso
Bulls get Giddey

I've probably come up with dozens of fake stupid trades on BBI and this is the only time one of them has ever come close to actually happening, lol.
I'm a big Caruso fan  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/20/2024 5:41 pm : link
just a really great defensive player and glue guy. That OKC team is looking dangerous as hell. Still need another big body at Center but very good looking team.
Per Stef Bondy  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 8:16 pm : link
"Julius Randle says he’s ahead of schedule in recovery and he’ll be ready for start of season; describes tortured decision to undergo surgery"

Well that's some positive news. Hopefully he's ready at the start of the season and it won't take a month into the seasonto get in shape
RE: Philly  
Pete44 : 6/20/2024 8:19 pm : link
In comment 16540369 Pete44 said:
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Rumor has it their attention is on Jimmy Butler


They are working on deals for both Jimmy butler and Zach Lavine. How they get both is beyond me, but that is what I’m hearing.
RE: RE: Philly  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2024 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16540445 Pete44 said:
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Rumor has it their attention is on Jimmy Butler



They are working on deals for both Jimmy butler and Zach Lavine. How they get both is beyond me, but that is what I’m hearing.


I am guessing Lavine is a oure salary dump
Evan Sidery tweeted  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 8:28 pm : link
That both the Jazz and Sixers are interested in Lavine. I hope the Sixers go there
Would be really  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 8:37 pm : link
funny if the Jazz got LaVine over the Sixers.
Weird that Sixers are already out on George  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2024 8:37 pm : link
either he is about to sign an extension or another team has George's interest
Kyle Neubeck  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2024 9:36 pm : link
Spoke to a league source who said Sixers position on Zach LaVine has not changed since the trade deadline. Philly is not interested in pursuing
RE: Weird that Sixers are already out on George  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/20/2024 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16540456 nygiants16 said:
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either he is about to sign an extension or another team has George's interest


Possible the harden story about telling George not to go to the Sixers was a plant to send a message? I know tin foil hat but still
RE: RE: Weird that Sixers are already out on George  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2024 10:02 pm : link
In comment 16540487 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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either he is about to sign an extension or another team has George's interest



Possible the harden story about telling George not to go to the Sixers was a plant to send a message? I know tin foil hat but still


Yeah just weird since they cant talk to him haha, maybe he found another team?
RE: RE: RE: Weird that Sixers are already out on George  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/21/2024 12:50 am : link
In comment 16540493 nygiants16 said:
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either he is about to sign an extension or another team has George's interest



Possible the harden story about telling George not to go to the Sixers was a plant to send a message? I know tin foil hat but still



Yeah just weird since they cant talk to him haha, maybe he found another team?


Orlando possibly?
I could see Orlando  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2024 8:08 am : link
they need shooters, I wonder what kind of role does he want
I had sort of written off  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 9:02 am : link
Baylor Scheierman working out for the Knicks...but he can really ball. I did watch some Creighton last year and knew he could shoot but didn't realize he averaged 9 boards and 4 assists.

Maybe profiles as a young Joe Ingles?
RE: I had sort of written off  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2024 9:04 am : link
In comment 16540599 Jon In NYC said:
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Baylor Scheierman working out for the Knicks...but he can really ball. I did watch some Creighton last year and knew he could shoot but didn't realize he averaged 9 boards and 4 assists.

Maybe profiles as a young Joe Ingles?


I think you can find a really good role player in this draft, people are down on it because of no stars
I’m all in on Ryan Dunn  
Mike in NJ : 6/21/2024 9:07 am : link
I’m going to be pretty disappointed if the Knicks don’t end up with him next week. I think they can develop him into a serviceable offensive player, and he’s got all defense potential.

I really like Jamal Shead out of Houston as well. He’d be a nice replacement for Deuce if they ever have to include him as a part of a trade.
Yeah I think  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 9:14 am : link
Dunn is the kind of high upside swing you want to be taking with the 25th pick in a weak draft.

Has a somewhat stable floor of defensive guru and cutter and if he develops a serviceable shot all of a sudden you have a cost controlled guy right in that 3 & D archetype. OG is about to make 40 mil, having someone in that ilk developing as his backup is only good business.

You don't even have to play him, just hire a private shooting coach and then go hang in the Maldives for 3 years and get a trillion shots up.
How high can we trade up if we package our second rounder  
Anakim : 6/21/2024 9:20 am : link
with one of our firsts? Because I'd like to trade up for Bub Carrington and then take Tyler Smith with our other first.
Bleacher Report is just so bad.  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 9:24 am : link
They published a Mock Draft that has the Knicks trading Mitch and 24 to New Orleans for 6 and Larry Nance.

The problem? The Pelicans don't own the 6th pick. The Hornets do.
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Anakim : 6/21/2024 9:25 am : link
Evan Sidery
@esidery
Goga Bitadze, the No. 18 overall pick from 2019 draft, is a player many contending teams are targeting as a backup big option on the veteran’s minimum market.

The Clippers, Heat, Kings, Knicks, Mavericks, Pelicans and Suns are teams expected to show interest in Bitadze.

Bitadze averaged 5.0 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.3 assists and 1.2 blocks in 15.4 minutes per game for the Magic.
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Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 9:28 am : link
In comment 16540614 Anakim said:
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Evan Sidery
@esidery
Goga Bitadze, the No. 18 overall pick from 2019 draft, is a player many contending teams are targeting as a backup big option on the veteran’s minimum market.

The Clippers, Heat, Kings, Knicks, Mavericks, Pelicans and Suns are teams expected to show interest in Bitadze.

Bitadze averaged 5.0 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.3 assists and 1.2 blocks in 15.4 minutes per game for the Magic.


YES. Give me Goga.

He's an elite shot blocker and not a complete stiff offensively. I cannot for the life of me figure out why the Magic insisted on playing WCJ over him.

If we traded Mitch for something of value and replaced him with Goga for a fraction of the cost I'd be thrilled.
According to Windy  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2024 9:55 am : link
George would likely opt in and request a trade
RE: RE: I had sort of written off  
Stu11 : 6/21/2024 9:56 am : link
In comment 16540601 nygiants16 said:
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Baylor Scheierman working out for the Knicks...but he can really ball. I did watch some Creighton last year and knew he could shoot but didn't realize he averaged 9 boards and 4 assists.

Maybe profiles as a young Joe Ingles?



I think you can find a really good role player in this draft, people are down on it because of no stars

Yeah I agree I'm actually pretty excited about most of the names that seem to slot in around where the Knicks are picking
More Bleacher Report trash  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 10:00 am : link
but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens:

“While getting OG Anunoby for $30 million per season would have been the dream for New York, expect the 26-year-old to sign a five-year, $200 million contract instead.”
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RE: According to Windy  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16540637 nygiants16 said:
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George would likely opt in and request a trade


Do we still want PG? He seems to just want to be a role player that makes max money. I'm not trading Julius for him. They can have Mitch and Bogie and a couple picks.
RE: More Bleacher Report trash  
Stu11 : 6/21/2024 10:13 am : link
In comment 16540643 Jon In NYC said:
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but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens:

“While getting OG Anunoby for $30 million per season would have been the dream for New York, expect the 26-year-old to sign a five-year, $200 million contract instead.” Link - ( New Window )

Yeah that's a big gulp but you gotta swallow and pay it. We pursued the guy for 2 seasons and we saw the affect he had on winning. Just gotta pray he stays healthy for a championship run at some point.
RE: RE: According to Windy  
TyreeHelmet : 6/21/2024 10:14 am : link
In comment 16540644 Jon In NYC said:
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George would likely opt in and request a trade



Do we still want PG? He seems to just want to be a role player that makes max money. I'm not trading Julius for him. They can have Mitch and Bogie and a couple picks.


I would pass on PG. Not a good fit with this culture here.
RE: RE: According to Windy  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2024 10:21 am : link
In comment 16540644 Jon In NYC said:
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George would likely opt in and request a trade



Do we still want PG? He seems to just want to be a role player that makes max money. I'm not trading Julius for him. They can have Mitch and Bogie and a couple picks.


I dont think you can make the deak without Randle
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Anakim : 6/21/2024 10:26 am : link
The Strickland
@TheStrickland
Bleacher Report's latest 2024 NBA Mock Draft has the Knicks trading Mitchell Robinson and the No. 24 pick to New Orleans for Larry Nance Jr. and the No. 6 pick.

The Knicks are mocked to select UConn's Stephon Castle at No. 6, and Dayton's DaRon Holmes at No. 25.




Thoughts?
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Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 10:30 am : link
In comment 16540658 Anakim said:
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The Strickland
@TheStrickland
Bleacher Report's latest 2024 NBA Mock Draft has the Knicks trading Mitchell Robinson and the No. 24 pick to New Orleans for Larry Nance Jr. and the No. 6 pick.

The Knicks are mocked to select UConn's Stephon Castle at No. 6, and Dayton's DaRon Holmes at No. 25.




Thoughts?


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Bleacher Report is just so bad.
Jon In NYC : 9:24 am : link : reply
They published a Mock Draft that has the Knicks trading Mitch and 24 to New Orleans for 6 and Larry Nance.

The problem? The Pelicans don't own the 6th pick. The Hornets do.
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DanMetroMan : 6/21/2024 10:37 am : link
Paul George could opt in and request a trade to his preferred destination, per
@WindhorstESPN


“[Clippers] have not been willing to meet Paul George’s price. He remains un-signed. You can’t just look at teams with salary cap space. If Paul George changes teams, it’s very likely going to be a situation where he opts into his contract and requests a trade.”
RE: RE: RE: According to Windy  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16540653 nygiants16 said:
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George would likely opt in and request a trade



Do we still want PG? He seems to just want to be a role player that makes max money. I'm not trading Julius for him. They can have Mitch and Bogie and a couple picks.



I dont think you can make the deak without Randle


Mitch, Bogie, and Deuce for PG works in the trade machine. That's probably as high as I'd go.
Probably  
DanMetroMan : 6/21/2024 10:38 am : link
won't be there when the Knicks pick but Ja'Kobe Walter feels underrated at this point. Crap draft he should be a lottery lock.
This  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 10:46 am : link
is from yesterday but I actually think Windy makes some good nuanced points about the Knicks and does call the Knicks the best fit out of the Clippers/Sixers/Knicks. And Windy is pretty plugged in.
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I haven’t heard anything regarding the pelicans  
ajr2456 : 6/21/2024 10:49 am : link
And there’s nothing to be worried about with OG I think.
Begley  
DanMetroMan : 6/21/2024 11:25 am : link
Heard something similar to the Yahoo report on NYK's Mitchell Robinson. In NYK talks about potential trades, Robinson's name has come up. Don't think NYK is fully committed to moving him but his salary (2 years left on 4-year $60M descending contract) is valuable potential deals
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Greg from LI : 6/21/2024 11:33 am : link
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“Hartenstein, at this moment, is now generally expected to return to New York.”

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DanMetroMan : 6/21/2024 11:59 am : link

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“Jimmy Butler will be traded. Rival executives have been buzzing about it for months, for all the obvious reasons. Butler is about to turn 35 (with a lot of hard miles and a lot of injuries)”

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At this point  
Jon In NYC : 6/21/2024 12:04 pm : link
I’d be more surprised if Jimmy to the Sixers doesn’t happen.
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