the zgeorge sruff fasicnates me even if the Knicks arent involved, Sixers basically take themselves out before it starts, Report now that George will opt in and request a trade, that in reality takes out the Magic..no reason to opt in if he wants the magic..
I see a lot of people quoting BR implying they are reporting OG is coming back 5 for 200. They are not. They have one *prediction* for every team and that’s one for the Knicks
that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
Fischer is a Philly guy, he seems to be doing their bidding this offseason
that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
Fischer is a Philly guy, he seems to be doing their bidding this offseason
There is some smoke on the OG thing with the Knicks, from what I heard. He feels he has them by the balls and is playing hardball. I’m not sure Philly is the threat Fischer makes them out to be. Do they need a player as injury prone as Embid? However, who is to say all parties are not looking into 3 team deals. I’ll let AJ opine some more , but I have heard there is smoke to OG being difficult. The 4th option thing is a bit of nonsense as hart prefers to not shoot and Donte is very unselfish.
I've long thought that a deal around PG and Randle would make sense for both parties. I guess it'll come down to how LAC feels about Randle. Losing PG would be a massive loss for them given that they've pushed all their chips into winning now but Randle can play with Harden and Kawhi and he's younger and (usually) healthier than those guys.
There is some smoke on the OG thing with the Knicks, from what I heard. He feels he has them by the balls and is playing hardball. I’m not sure Philly is the threat Fischer makes them out to be. Do they need a player as injury prone as Embid? However, who is to say all parties are not looking into 3 team deals. I’ll let AJ opine some more , but I have heard there is smoke to OG being difficult. The 4th option thing is a bit of nonsense as hart prefers to not shoot and Donte is very unselfish.
I don't get this. Rose's son is playing hardball with Rose? Imo more likely is that this is all an effort to avoid any issues the league might have with the Rose's after they got hit with the tampering charge for Brunson
Gotta think that Randle and Robinson would both be shipped out for cap reasons, no?
Just fwiw:
Guessing that the Clips would want Randle.
PG is a free agent so they have little leverage. It's either our pupu platter or he goes for nothing.
We may have to add a first or two but I think we could get it done without Randle.
Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re-signing Hartenstein and OG and acquiring PG13?
Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
No reason PG can't play SG though
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re-signing Hartenstein and OG and acquiring PG13?
Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
No reason PG can't play SG though
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re-signing Hartenstein and OG and acquiring PG13?
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re-signing Hartenstein and OG and acquiring PG13?
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re-signing Hartenstein and OG and acquiring PG13?
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
I’ve been hoping for a PG trade for a couple of years.
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
Saying he’s never been a sg is just factually incorrect. He was for the majority of his time in Indiana playing next to Danny Granger.
But either way it’s a far more position less game than it used to be. In fact I bet he’d end up guarding a fair share of PGs and hiding Brunson on a wing.
Or you have OG guard the guard and move PG to the wing. Either way if you have two elite defensive wings that’s a great spot to be in.
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
Saying he’s never been a sg is just factually incorrect. He was for the majority of his time in Indiana playing next to Danny Granger.
But either way it’s a far more position less game than it used to be. In fact I bet he’d end up guarding a fair share of PGs and hiding Brunson on a wing.
Or you have OG guard the guard and move PG to the wing. Either way if you have two elite defensive wings that’s a great spot to be in.
Agree to disagree. I understand modern basketball. It's split up into bigs, wings and guards. OG and PG are wings. Referencing what PG did at Indiana a decade ago doesn't move the needle for me. I still don't see a fit with IHart, Randle, OG, and George. Maxey, Donovan Mitchell, Haliburton type guards will be very problematic because they won't have a defender quick enough laterally to guard them.
Pete, safe to assume Knicks won’t be in on Durant?
Phoenix does not want to trade him, but reuniting KAT with Booker would ease some of the pain and might even improve them. I have heard Durant wants either Minne or GS, too much baggage with NYK, but you never know. I’d be shocked if this deal happened but very reliable source, who I forced it out of.
averaged 23ppg, shot 41% from three, 90% from the FT line, and is a perennial All-Star isn’t a fit? The “perfect” fits aren’t available to us, and the time is now to go for the ring.
averaged 23ppg, shot 41% from three, 90% from the FT line, and is a perennial All-Star isn’t a fit? The “perfect” fits aren’t available to us, and the time is now to go for the ring.
Only a few contenders cna actually trade for him
Hard to judge that kind of move without knowing what Knicks do after that proposed deal. I would want to see the finished product first.
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Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Would they be able to keep OG and get PG?
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
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that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
on his pod just saw a clip
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that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
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I asked my source why would KD want Minnesota and he said he loves Anthony Edwards.
Again just a rumor from a very reliable source that is connected to KD.
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that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
Fischer is a Philly guy, he seems to be doing their bidding this offseason
I asked my source why would KD want Minnesota and he said he loves Anthony Edwards.
Again just a rumor from a very reliable source that is connected to KD.
I actually love this for both teams. Suns need size and an ANT/KD duo is fun as shit
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that OG was miffed by being the 4th option behind the villanova 3....
Right....he was so miffed he risked serious injury to play in game 7
Just curious where did you see that? It wasn’t in his article today.
Nevermind just saw it. That seems like extremely reckless reporting which is Fisher's MO. He took 19 shots in his last full game a Knick. That's not enough?
Fischer is a Philly guy, he seems to be doing their bidding this offseason
There is some smoke on the OG thing with the Knicks, from what I heard. He feels he has them by the balls and is playing hardball. I’m not sure Philly is the threat Fischer makes them out to be. Do they need a player as injury prone as Embid? However, who is to say all parties are not looking into 3 team deals. I’ll let AJ opine some more , but I have heard there is smoke to OG being difficult. The 4th option thing is a bit of nonsense as hart prefers to not shoot and Donte is very unselfish.
I've long thought that a deal around PG and Randle would make sense for both parties. I guess it'll come down to how LAC feels about Randle. Losing PG would be a massive loss for them given that they've pushed all their chips into winning now but Randle can play with Harden and Kawhi and he's younger and (usually) healthier than those guys.
There is some smoke on the OG thing with the Knicks, from what I heard. He feels he has them by the balls and is playing hardball. I’m not sure Philly is the threat Fischer makes them out to be. Do they need a player as injury prone as Embid? However, who is to say all parties are not looking into 3 team deals. I’ll let AJ opine some more , but I have heard there is smoke to OG being difficult. The 4th option thing is a bit of nonsense as hart prefers to not shoot and Donte is very unselfish.
I don't get this. Rose's son is playing hardball with Rose? Imo more likely is that this is all an effort to avoid any issues the league might have with the Rose's after they got hit with the tampering charge for Brunson
This is a crazy take. Stewart is a tweener that doesn't really fit at the 4 or 5. The Knicks interior defense and rebounding would take a massive hit
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Gotta think that Randle and Robinson would both be shipped out for cap reasons, no?
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Guessing that the Clips would want Randle.
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Gotta think that Randle and Robinson would both be shipped out for cap reasons, no?
Just fwiw:
Guessing that the Clips would want Randle.
PG is a free agent so they have little leverage. It's either our pupu platter or he goes for nothing.
We may have to add a first or two but I think we could get it done without Randle.
It’s fine they’ll draft Dunn and be net even on Hoos
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Gotta think that Randle and Robinson would both be shipped out for cap reasons, no?
Just fwiw:
Guessing that the Clips would want Randle.
PG is a free agent so they have little leverage. It's either our pupu platter or he goes for nothing.
We may have to add a first or two but I think we could get it done without Randle.
It's possible but also assumes there are no other suitors he'd be willing to go to
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Gotta think that Randle and Robinson would both be shipped out for cap reasons, no?
Just fwiw:
Guessing that the Clips would want Randle.
PG is a free agent so they have little leverage. It's either our pupu platter or he goes for nothing.
We may have to add a first or two but I think we could get it done without Randle.
Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
No reason PG can't play SG though
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Randle, PG, OG, Brunson and IHart don't really work. PG and OG are wings, not guards. I can't see the Knicks trading for PG and re-signing OG while keeping Randle.
No reason PG can't play SG though
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
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He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
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He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
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He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
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He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
Saying he’s never been a sg is just factually incorrect. He was for the majority of his time in Indiana playing next to Danny Granger.
But either way it’s a far more position less game than it used to be. In fact I bet he’d end up guarding a fair share of PGs and hiding Brunson on a wing.
Or you have OG guard the guard and move PG to the wing. Either way if you have two elite defensive wings that’s a great spot to be in.
Not sure if this was covered, but do you think Randle would be in a possible PG trade?
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He's not a shooting guard, especially at his advanced age. He's more of a small ball four than he is a two. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy chasing smaller guards all over the court.
I don't really agree with that. He's still a very very good perimeter defender and most teams play positionless basketball anyways. You can always use OG against quicker guards or stagger one of their main guys with the bench unit
OG struggles against smaller, quicker guards. He couldn't guard Maxey in the 76ers series. PG is 34 and has been a forward his entire career. Playing him at the 2 at 34 makes no sense.
Which matchup specifically is he struggling with? He’s a 4x all defensive player and just played 75 games and playoffs. He’s not decrepit.
Every accomplishment you just mentioned was done as a wing/forward. He's not a shooting guard, never has been and certainly isn't going to morph into one at 34.
Saying he’s never been a sg is just factually incorrect. He was for the majority of his time in Indiana playing next to Danny Granger.
But either way it’s a far more position less game than it used to be. In fact I bet he’d end up guarding a fair share of PGs and hiding Brunson on a wing.
Or you have OG guard the guard and move PG to the wing. Either way if you have two elite defensive wings that’s a great spot to be in.
Agree to disagree. I understand modern basketball. It's split up into bigs, wings and guards. OG and PG are wings. Referencing what PG did at Indiana a decade ago doesn't move the needle for me. I still don't see a fit with IHart, Randle, OG, and George. Maxey, Donovan Mitchell, Haliburton type guards will be very problematic because they won't have a defender quick enough laterally to guard them.
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Phoenix does not want to trade him, but reuniting KAT with Booker would ease some of the pain and might even improve them. I have heard Durant wants either Minne or GS, too much baggage with NYK, but you never know. I’d be shocked if this deal happened but very reliable source, who I forced it out of.
What are you hearing on OG? I’m hearing he is playing hardball that could cause some friction in the locker room.
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Just won a title without a real 2 or 4 in the starting lineup.
Not sure if this was covered, but do you think Randle would be in a possible PG trade?
Just my guess but I think they only do it if they’re keeping Randle
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Just won a title without a real 2 or 4 in the starting lineup.
What are you hearing on OG? I’m hearing he is playing hardball that could cause some friction in the locker room.
He’ll be back
Not anymore
And still a top tier defender