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Over/under win totals: Best bets and predictions

Sky King : 6/15/2024 2:51 pm
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Best bet:

New York Giants
Over 6.5 (+120)

The Giants were not surprised that Darren Waller retired this week. And probably not that upset about it either, as injuries and maybe some focus issues rendered Waller less than the dominant tight end he was with the Raiders. The Giants also probably got a chuckle when some people thought Drew Lock was brought in to take Daniel Jones’ job. Jones is not that bad, people. He will be able to get the ball to Malik Nabers. And Brian Daboll didn’t suddenly forget how to coach last season when the Giants disappointed many and fell from 9-7-1 to 6-11.

This is a great bounce-back spot, and a defense led by Dexter Lawrence II and Kayvon Thibodeaux will be much better with the addition of Brian Burns.

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I’m going over,  
Section331 : 6/15/2024 3:30 pm : link
but not by much - 7-10.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/15/2024 3:49 pm : link
"He will be able to get the ball to Malik Nabers."

A lot of that falls on the OL & given the state of the OL going back like a decade...I ain't confident.
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MOOPS : 6/15/2024 4:16 pm : link


"That's right. I'm all in, dogs. 11-6. There it is. I said it."
They are 100% correct about bounce-back  
HBart : 6/15/2024 4:19 pm : link
Forget about off-season improvements or the names on last years' players jerseys. Just regressing to the mean on injuries -- total lost games, and which positions (QB1, QB2, OLT1, OLT2 & K) -- makes a bounce-back an easy blind bet. You don't even need to know the team name.
I don't think 11-6 is unrealistic  
WillieYoung : 6/15/2024 6:10 pm : link
A lot has to go right but we've got promising young players at the spots where we have questions. Get your popcorn, it could be fun.
Giants will win 10 games because of Daniel Jones!  
Jack Stroud : 6/15/2024 7:49 pm : link
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Even though the  
Gman11 : 6/15/2024 8:41 pm : link
OL stunk and the offense itself stunk, the defense wasn't exactly stellar either. Some people were upset when AShawn Robinson wasn't resigned, but he was supposed to be a run stuffer. It seemed to me that the only thing he stuffed was his stomach at meal time.
RE: Even though the  
RCPhoenix : 6/15/2024 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16537620 Gman11 said:
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OL stunk and the offense itself stunk, the defense wasn't exactly stellar either. Some people were upset when AShawn Robinson wasn't resigned, but he was supposed to be a run stuffer. It seemed to me that the only thing he stuffed was his stomach at meal time.


The defense is completely different under the new DC. The major question is how long it takes them to figure out the new system.
Sub .500  
56goat : 6/16/2024 9:24 am : link
A lot depends on the O. If we can consistently get the ball down the field to our speed WRs, then everything opens up. If it continues to be a checkdown, short passing fest, then it is likely to get ugly.
RE: RE: Even though the  
gridirony : 6/16/2024 9:41 am : link
In comment 16537623 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 16537620 Gman11 said:


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OL stunk and the offense itself stunk, the defense wasn't exactly stellar either. Some people were upset when AShawn Robinson wasn't resigned, but he was supposed to be a run stuffer. It seemed to me that the only thing he stuffed was his stomach at meal time.



The defense is completely different under the new DC. The major question is how long it takes them to figure out the new system.


From reading a thread, here, a while ago, apparently the new defense coach has a priority in stopping the run first, by requiring a lot of hitting/tackling by the secondary.

Figuring out the new defense will be one thing, and keeping starters on the field possibly could be another.
Best Bet is Nutty  
giantstock : 6/16/2024 12:45 pm : link
Stay away from the nutjob calling this "a best bet." Not saying the Giants can't go 7-10 etc but DJ is also injury prone.Ad in one wrong hit with his neck and "he's done."

If a pro-gambler is making this recomendation - I would run-away from the nutjob. There isn't any other "best bet?"
RE: Giants will win 10 games because of Daniel Jones!  
mfjmfj : 6/17/2024 8:05 am : link
In comment 16537582 Jack Stroud said:
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So if we start Drew Lock we go undefeated?
RE: Giants will win 10 games because of Daniel Jones!  
mfjmfj : 6/17/2024 8:06 am : link
In comment 16537582 Jack Stroud said:
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So if we start Drew Lock we go undefeated?
The biggest problem this year is the schedule.  
DeVito32 : 6/17/2024 1:07 pm : link
This is probably the best and most talented team we’ve had in a while (barring injuries of course)

But the schedule is brutal. Playing the AFC North we probably lose every game. Except maybe the Steelers. Wash is a lot better so I think we split.

So I think the team will be much improved but the record won’t show it this year. Yes Parcells “you’re only as good as your record” yada yada… but still this is the best team we’ve had in a while.
I'll go 8 wins  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/17/2024 1:18 pm : link
with a range of 6-10 wins. So I guess I'm a little higher than that line suggests.

I think the defense is significantly better, especially against the run. Too much talent not to be better. And I'm hoping with my fingers crossed that the OL is finally a better unit, that happens and the offense should at least be closer to 18th than 28th.

~10th ranked defense
~20th ranked offense

Basically a .500 team that will depend on luck to decide if they are closer to the 8th pick in the draft or making a WC spot.
6-8 wins seems most likely  
Greg from LI : 6/17/2024 1:20 pm : link
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I'm feeling  
darren in pdx : 6/17/2024 2:04 pm : link
under until they field a functional o-line and overall offensive unit. Realistically they'll probably win 6 to 8 because NFL is like that, but until proven otherwise, this is and has been a non-competitive and injury-riddled team. Defense will most likely struggle early on with a lot of young players in starting roles. Three years into Schoen's roster, if there isn't a significant improvement I don't think he and Daboll will be around much longer.
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