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NFT: ⚾Mets @ Rangers Series - Games 1 to 3⚾ Game 1 - 8:05 pm EDT⚾

Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:46 pm
Here we go again with another series thread, this time against the defending World Series champion Rangers in the Lone Star State. Enjoy 😊!

P.S. Sorry for the late posting for this series. Got caught up with some family-related things and just got home.
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Mets @ Rangers: Game 1 –⚾Peterson (L) vs. Gray (R)⚾– 8:05 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games tonight as well as tomorrow evening in Arlington, Texas against the Rangers.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight's and tomorrow’s games will each be broadcast by SNY.
-The weather won’t be an issue for this series since Globe Life Field in Arlington has a retractable roof. The Rangers are one of five teams in MLB that play on a synthetic surface. The others are Arizona, Miami, Toronto and Tampa Bay.
-The upcoming MLB All-Star Game will be played at Globe Life Field in Arlington next month. Let’s see who makes it to play here again for the Mets at the All-Star Game. Too bad Seth Lugo and Zack Wheeler are no longer with the team since they’re having All-Star seasons. In any case, the Mets have won 9 of their last 11 games—they had a total of just 9 for the entirety of the month of May.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Iglesias (R), Marte (R), & Bader (R).
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What a win tonight by these guys!  
Optimus-NY : 6/18/2024 11:27 pm : link
They're not dead after all. The key is to continue to play well throughout this second third of the season. If they do that, then there not only won't be a fire sale BUT this team might have a chance to make some noise.

If they buy at the deadline, it'd be for bullpen help. Any additions that can help the club though would mostly be from within: either Senga coming back after the All-Star Break and/or the kids in the minors stepping up (e.g., Scott, Vasil, Baty, Acuna, or Gilbert).

P.S. Alvarez should be named captain of the Mets NOW.
alvarez 2b was 114.8 mph vientos homer was 113.2 mph  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 11:28 pm : link
each of their hardest hit balls on the season. alvarez hardest hit ball as a big leaguer, and at a key moment.

and somehow mauricio hits the ball harder than both of them.
RE: alvarez 2b was 114.8 mph vientos homer was 113.2 mph  
Optimus-NY : 6/18/2024 11:46 pm : link
In comment 16539413 Eric on Li said:
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each of their hardest hit balls on the season. alvarez hardest hit ball as a big leaguer, and at a key moment.

and somehow mauricio hits the ball harder than both of them.


RE: RE: alvarez 2b was 114.8 mph vientos homer was 113.2 mph  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 11:50 pm : link
In comment 16539418 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16539413 Eric on Li said:


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each of their hardest hit balls on the season. alvarez hardest hit ball as a big leaguer, and at a key moment.

and somehow mauricio hits the ball harder than both of them.





ive been swayed to thinking that was more eppler pushing vogelbach than buck. not sure and i dont think it totally excuses buck because nobody made him act the way he did, but its crazy to think about how much time was wasted.
Alvarez being back is the game changer  
spike : 6/18/2024 11:55 pm : link
0.5 game out of the last NL wild card spot! They should be able to chase the DBs and the Cardinals.
I’ll cop to turning the game off at 6-2,  
Section331 : 6/19/2024 11:28 am : link
that’ll show me! Great effort, but one thing I haven’t seen mentioned is Severino gutting it out into the 7th. That was key, shortening the game for the bullpen.

I just have to wonder how much more rope they give McNeil? I guess since they’re winning, they don’t see it as that necessary, but at some point, they’re going to have to consider moving in another direction. I wonder how much work Baty will need in Cuse to get ready?
RE: RE: alvarez 2b was 114.8 mph vientos homer was 113.2 mph  
Rory : 6/19/2024 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16539418 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16539413 Eric on Li said:


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each of their hardest hit balls on the season. alvarez hardest hit ball as a big leaguer, and at a key moment.

and somehow mauricio hits the ball harder than both of them.





God thats a funny ass pic.
looks like 1/3 chance of playoffs as of today  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 12:59 pm : link
the schedule continues to mostly ease up pre-ASB, so as long the BP doesn't do another may implosion they should be over .500 by ASB and maybe close to 50%.

RE: the JDM addition was so big  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16539406 Eric on Li said:
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i know by the time ST rolled around there was a general disappointment that the offseason was low key, and then he had the delayed start to the season, but right now they are getting the guy who hit cleanup in the ASG last year. it is very hard to do better than Lindor, Nimmo, JDM, Alonso #1-4. If that group isnt on the level of ATL/PHI/LAD it's darn close.

then you add in a Vientos breakout, Alvarez, and Bader/Marte having good years in the bottom half and this is a lineup that is a lot better than the group in 2022 even with McNeil struggling.

need diaz to be this version of diaz because other than him the pitching is largely mediocre, but this lineup is absolutely good enough to carry mediocre pitching. getting very close to time to start considering what a buying move could look like (luzardo? d-rob? jansen?).


Without Betts its a lot closer, but I can't say Lindor, Nimmo, Alonso and JDM is "it's darn close" to:
Betts
Ohtani
Freeman
Smith

RE: I’ll cop to turning the game off at 6-2,  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16539596 Section331 said:
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that’ll show me! Great effort, but one thing I haven’t seen mentioned is Severino gutting it out into the 7th. That was key, shortening the game for the bullpen.

I just have to wonder how much more rope they give McNeil? I guess since they’re winning, they don’t see it as that necessary, but at some point, they’re going to have to consider moving in another direction. I wonder how much work Baty will need in Cuse to get ready?


Baty has only made 1 appearance at 2b, safe to say he's only getting a look over there to add to his utility vs. a legitimate option to replace McNeil.
Nido to the Cubs  
dannysection 313 : 6/19/2024 3:43 pm : link
So, lot's of hugs from his former teammates this weekend...assuming he plays and gets on base.

Good for Tomas...always liked him even though he was never a great player. Ironically, he swung the bat best, I thought, in his last six weeks with the mets this spring.
RE: RE: the JDM addition was so big  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16539704 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16539406 Eric on Li said:


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i know by the time ST rolled around there was a general disappointment that the offseason was low key, and then he had the delayed start to the season, but right now they are getting the guy who hit cleanup in the ASG last year. it is very hard to do better than Lindor, Nimmo, JDM, Alonso #1-4. If that group isnt on the level of ATL/PHI/LAD it's darn close.

then you add in a Vientos breakout, Alvarez, and Bader/Marte having good years in the bottom half and this is a lineup that is a lot better than the group in 2022 even with McNeil struggling.

need diaz to be this version of diaz because other than him the pitching is largely mediocre, but this lineup is absolutely good enough to carry mediocre pitching. getting very close to time to start considering what a buying move could look like (luzardo? d-rob? jansen?).



Without Betts its a lot closer, but I can't say Lindor, Nimmo, Alonso and JDM is "it's darn close" to:
Betts
Ohtani
Freeman
Smith


the bold (along with acuna out) is kind of a big factor there for at least the next 2 months, and even with Betts for most of the last 2 months the Mets offense has in fact been "darn close".



4/5 players most responsible for that are the ones i mentioned.



were it not for diaz/garrett blowing the 4 or 5 saves in a row they would be in a WC right now thanks to the offense producing like a top of league team.
RE: RE: I’ll cop to turning the game off at 6-2,  
Section331 : 6/19/2024 4:03 pm : link
In comment 16539706 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16539596 Section331 said:


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that’ll show me! Great effort, but one thing I haven’t seen mentioned is Severino gutting it out into the 7th. That was key, shortening the game for the bullpen.

I just have to wonder how much more rope they give McNeil? I guess since they’re winning, they don’t see it as that necessary, but at some point, they’re going to have to consider moving in another direction. I wonder how much work Baty will need in Cuse to get ready?



Baty has only made 1 appearance at 2b, safe to say he's only getting a look over there to add to his utility vs. a legitimate option to replace McNeil.


Thanks Dan, I thought they were giving him a longer look there.
id like to see them try baty in LF again  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 4:16 pm : link
he could be an option to take DJ Stewarts spot and platoon with marte in a corner.

marte vs lefties = 162 wrc
marte vs rights = 102 wrc

he is literally worst defensive player in MLB right now so id hope baty cant be worse.

dj right now is a 13 wrc vs lefties, so he is basically unplayable same side. vs righties he's 120. baty had a 96 wrc vs righties when he was up, so that was one role he was at least decent at. vs lefties he was 56.
Baty in LF is a good idea.  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 5:43 pm : link
Have him go between 3B and LF. I would have done almost the same with Mauricio if he weren't hurt (except trying him at 2B and LF).
Mets @ Rangers: Game 3 –⚾ Manaea (L) vs. Heaney (L)⚾– 8:05 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 7:15 pm : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the game tonight in Arlington against the Rangers and after tomorrow in Chicago against the Cubs.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight's game will be broadcast by SNY. Friday afternoon’s game at Wrigley Field will also be broadcast by SNY.
-The weather won’t be an issue for this series since Globe Life Field in Arlington has a retractable roof. The Rangers are one of five teams in MLB that play on a synthetic surface. The others are Arizona, Miami, Toronto and Tampa Bay.
-The Mets have a season long winning streak of 7 games, which is their longest since 2022. Going into today they’re only 1 game behind the Cardinals, the holders of the last wildcard spot in the National League.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Stewart (L), & McNeil (L).
Why is our starter for Friday a mystery?  
BigBlueNH : 6/19/2024 7:40 pm : link
Isn't Quintana up? Or did I miss something?
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 7:57 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets at Rangers | 8:05 pm EDT start - June 19, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)

Mets at Rangers | 8:05 pm EDT start - June 19, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Rangers’ feed – Bally Sports Southwest (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Rangers – June 19, 2024 - 8:05 pm EDT start


Note: Ron won’t be calling the game tonight.


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
The greatest baseball player EVER ⬇️  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 8:03 pm : link
Counting tomorrow, the Mets have 3 off-days in the last 11 days of  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 8:07 pm : link
June: tomorrow, the 24th, and the 27th.
RE: Why is our starter for Friday a mystery?  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16539832 BigBlueNH said:
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Isn't Quintana up? Or did I miss something?


You are correct sir. Check it out HERE.
The Mets have released their starting pitchers for their 3-game series  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 8:51 pm : link
in the Windy City against the Cubbies starting on Thursday, after tomorrow's off day (the Cubs have only announced their starting pitcher for the first game). They're as follows currently:

Game 1:
Jose Quintana
LHP
2-5, 4.98 ERA, 50 SO

vs.

Shota Imanaga
LHP
7-1, 1.89 ERA, 78 SO


Game 2:
Tylor Megill
RHP
2-3, 3.52 ERA, 37 SO

vs.

TBD


Game 3:
David Peterson
LHP
3-0, 3.97 ERA, 12 SO

vs.

TBD
The Mets will appear on national tv on Sunday Night Beisbol on BSPN.  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 9:19 pm : link
baty another homer for cuse - 107 mph / 436 feet  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 9:25 pm : link
acuna 1-2 with 2 walks, 1 hard hit ball. baty hitting .381 with a 1.188 ops. some reinforcements when needed.
imagine this version of jdm had been healthy at 2022 deadline  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 9:31 pm : link
and they'd have holderman instead of ramirez.
polar bear 427 feet + 108.5mph homer  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 9:34 pm : link
not an easy lineup to pitch through 3x right now, heaney looked real good other than that pitch.
RE: imagine this version of jdm had been healthy at 2022 deadline  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16539885 Eric on Li said:
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and they'd have holderman instead of ramirez.


They would've won the division for sure.
Can we just swap Baty and McNeil?  
CooperDash : 6/19/2024 10:00 pm : link
I CANNOT STAND Jeff McNeil. Personally, I think he’s the ultimate “me” player that got his money and would rather be golfing. He sucks.
Drew Smith  
spike : 6/19/2024 10:13 pm : link
HR machine.

TX up 5-3
And Drew Smith continues to suck and give up Bombs.  
CooperDash : 6/19/2024 10:13 pm : link
Please move on from this fucker too. Clean out the old ghosts please.
The Drew Smith experience never ceases to disappoint.  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 10:26 pm : link
God do I despise him.
drew smith is the most annoying met of this era for me  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 10:27 pm : link
right down to whenever he finally leaves and thrives as a closer somewhere else with less pressure. here he cant seem to not give up rockets every other outing. 100% confident he is the next sewald/heath bell.
RE: The Drew Smith experience never ceases to disappoint.  
CooperDash : 6/19/2024 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16539910 Optimus-NY said:
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God do I despise him.


You despise Smith as much as I despise McNeil, lol. Let’s jettison both of them to the moon.
RE: drew smith is the most annoying met of this era for me  
GF1080 : 6/19/2024 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16539911 Eric on Li said:
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right down to whenever he finally leaves and thrives as a closer somewhere else with less pressure. here he cant seem to not give up rockets every other outing. 100% confident he is the next sewald/heath bell.


Maybe/maybe not. I don't see much changing with him.
marte, vientos, alvarez, mcneil, stewart  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 10:28 pm : link
hopefully a little magic left. back of texas BP all pitched unsuccessfully yesterday, hopefully they do it again.
RE: RE: drew smith is the most annoying met of this era for me  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2024 10:29 pm : link
In comment 16539915 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16539911 Eric on Li said:


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right down to whenever he finally leaves and thrives as a closer somewhere else with less pressure. here he cant seem to not give up rockets every other outing. 100% confident he is the next sewald/heath bell.



Maybe/maybe not. I don't see much changing with him.


it will not happen here but he is going to find some stupid cutter grip or something and end up really good somewhere with minimal pressure like oakland.
RE: RE: The Drew Smith experience never ceases to disappoint.  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 10:32 pm : link
In comment 16539913 CooperDash said:
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God do I despise him.



You despise Smith as much as I despise McNeil, lol. Let’s jettison both of them to the moon.


"Bet!", as they say in the hood, lol!
😞  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 10:40 pm : link

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RE: RE: drew smith is the most annoying met of this era for me  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 10:49 pm : link
In comment 16539915 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16539911 Eric on Li said:


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right down to whenever he finally leaves and thrives as a closer somewhere else with less pressure. here he cant seem to not give up rockets every other outing. 100% confident he is the next sewald/heath bell.



Maybe/maybe not. I don't see much changing with him.


+1

Drew Smith will ALWAYS SUCK. They guy is a waste of space. Phuq him. He needs to be DFAd if they can't trade him. Bring up a second lefty (Danny Young) to add to this pen in his place. The only leagues he might ever be successful in are the Mexican league or out east---in the FAAAAAR EAST in Korea or Japan, lol.
What a loser and waste of space this PoS is...⬇️😡🤬  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 11:02 pm : link
Check it:  
Optimus-NY : 6/19/2024 11:22 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: drew smith is the most annoying met of this era for me  
Rory : 6/20/2024 8:14 am : link
In comment 16539917 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16539911 Eric on Li said:


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right down to whenever he finally leaves and thrives as a closer somewhere else with less pressure. here he cant seem to not give up rockets every other outing. 100% confident he is the next sewald/heath bell.



Maybe/maybe not. I don't see much changing with him.



it will not happen here but he is going to find some stupid cutter grip or something and end up really good somewhere with minimal pressure like oakland.


thats what happened with Paul Sewald.
Smith and Ottavino  
X : 6/20/2024 1:49 pm : link
Both scare me when they come into the game. In the back of my mind I'm thinking home run. At least Adam had success earlier in his career. Walks are also a concern.

Ottavino and his inability to hold runners on is ridiculous for a major league pitcher.
RE: Smith and Ottavino  
Optimus-NY : 6/20/2024 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16540191 X said:
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Both scare me when they come into the game. In the back of my mind I'm thinking home run. At least Adam had success earlier in his career. Walks are also a concern.

Ottavino and his inability to hold runners on is ridiculous for a major league pitcher.


Ottavino scares me too, no doubt, but at least he's not a total washout who still has his moments, even at this late stage in his career. What has Drew Smith EVER done?

Thank God he's a FA at the end of this season. The Mets made him available this past off-season, but nobody wanted him. Smith was one of the tank commanders after the trade deadline last season for a reason.
Hes shown glimpses ..Lol. Just prepare yourself  
Rory : 6/20/2024 6:15 pm : link
When he goes to Cleveland or tampa and excells in a no pressure city. He can throw gas when called upon.
RE: Hes shown glimpses ..Lol. Just prepare yourself  
Optimus-NY : 6/20/2024 7:09 pm : link
In comment 16540402 Rory said:
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When he goes to Cleveland or tampa and excells in a no pressure city. He can throw gas when called upon.


What he does is throw gas on the fire.
There  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2024 7:23 pm : link
Is close to 0% chance Smith returns next season. He is what he is and if another team unlocks something then good for them. This isn’t even a Sewald situation where you can question the sample size
RE: There  
Optimus-NY : 6/20/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16540424 DanMetroMan said:
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Is close to 0% chance Smith returns next season. He is what he is and if another team unlocks something then good for them. This isn’t even a Sewald situation where you can question the sample size


The sooner he gets DFAd the better.
Bummer they have to face Imanaga right after the streak ends  
Metnut : 6/21/2024 8:43 am : link
Cubs arent that's impressive outside of the games that he starts
RE: Bummer they have to face Imanaga right after the streak ends  
Optimus-NY : 6/21/2024 9:29 am : link
In comment 16540581 Metnut said:
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Cubs arent that's impressive outside of the games that he starts


He's amazing. Wish we signed him. He's only making 10 million bucks this year to boot!
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