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NFT: ⚾Mets @ Rangers Series - Games 1 to 3⚾ Game 1 - 8:05 pm EDT⚾

Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:46 pm
Here we go again with another series thread, this time against the defending World Series champion Rangers in the Lone Star State. Enjoy 😊!

P.S. Sorry for the late posting for this series. Got caught up with some family-related things and just got home.
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Mets @ Rangers: Game 1 –⚾Peterson (L) vs. Gray (R)⚾– 8:05 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games tonight as well as tomorrow evening in Arlington, Texas against the Rangers.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight's and tomorrow’s games will each be broadcast by SNY.
-The weather won’t be an issue for this series since Globe Life Field in Arlington has a retractable roof. The Rangers are one of five teams in MLB that play on a synthetic surface. The others are Arizona, Miami, Toronto and Tampa Bay.
-The upcoming MLB All-Star Game will be played at Globe Life Field in Arlington next month. Let’s see who makes it to play here again for the Mets at the All-Star Game. Too bad Seth Lugo and Zack Wheeler are no longer with the team since they’re having All-Star seasons. In any case, the Mets have won 9 of their last 11 games—they had a total of just 9 for the entirety of the month of May.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Iglesias (R), Marte (R), & Bader (R).
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Check out the Minor League thread for June below:  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:47 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
7-0  
JayBinQueens : 6/17/2024 8:47 pm : link
Metsies.

Only 1 extra base hit.

Stewart with a 3 run hr

Martinez rocketed one 410 ft for an out.

Surprised Gray wasn't pulled
Here are a couple of useful financial websites:  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:47 pm : link
Cot's Baseball Contracts - A Clearinghouse for MLB Salary and Payroll details


RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
just beautiful to see  
Eric on Li : 6/17/2024 8:48 pm : link
this lineup is locked in right now. for as long as this goes they are going to win a lot of games.

Nice to see the Mets playing so well  
Sean : 6/17/2024 8:50 pm : link
Do you all think Stearns will stick with his process at the deadline or will the last 2 weeks alter his thinking?
Thanks  
GF1080 : 6/17/2024 8:50 pm : link
Optimus!!

Fun start to the game here! Every time I request to move on from Stewart he hits a HR to shut me up.

Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:52 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets at Rangers | 8:05 pm EDT start - June 17, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)

Mets at Rangers | 8:05 pm EDT start - June 17, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Rangers’ feed – Bally Sports Southwest (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Rangers – June 17, 2024 - 8:05 pm EDT start


Note: Ron won’t be calling the game tonight.

Enjoy tonight's game 😊
I am glad Peterson struck him out  
Mike in NY : 6/17/2024 8:52 pm : link
But the C for the Rangers is Sam Huff
RE: Nice to see the Mets playing so well  
Eric on Li : 6/17/2024 8:56 pm : link
In comment 16538605 Sean said:
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Do you all think Stearns will stick with his process at the deadline or will the last 2 weeks alter his thinking?


i think the month between now and ASB will decide it. schedule is easy especially after july 1, so if they are in a wild card i doubt they sell anything meaningful. maybe just marte if they can.
RE: Thanks  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 8:56 pm : link
In comment 16538607 GF1080 said:
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Optimus!!

Fun start to the game here! Every time I request to move on from Stewart he hits a HR to shut me up.


Sorry for the lateness. Got home later than I thought I would, but I had the template ready to go. Just needed to make a couple of tweaks/additions to it before posting.

Quite a start! These mongos might actually have something going here. We prolly won't see Senga for another month though, but the starting rotation is doing the job thus far without him. The club playing well since the return of Alvarez is certainly not a coincidence. #LGM!
10 swings and misses for peterson already  
Eric on Li : 6/17/2024 9:04 pm : link
skenes currently todays leader with 18 in 6 ip.
Bullpen notes:  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 9:05 pm : link
-Díaz & Ottavino come into tonight’s game w/2 days of rest.
-Garrett has only thrown 8 pitches in the last 4 calendar days.
Peterson needs to go 6 innings tonight.  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 9:07 pm : link
Give the other guys in the pen besides the three I mentioned above the rest they need.
Keith says Peterson has it going on...  
moze1021 : 6/17/2024 9:08 pm : link
He gets squeezed on an 0-2 fastball on the black..

HR
RE: 10 swings and misses for peterson already  
GF1080 : 6/17/2024 9:08 pm : link
In comment 16538618 Eric on Li said:
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skenes currently todays leader with 18 in 6 ip.


Skenes is ridiculous already. What a talent.

Blah Peterson just gave up a 2 run HR.

And then a nice play at 3B by Vientos.
RE: Peterson needs to go 6 innings tonight.  
GF1080 : 6/17/2024 9:09 pm : link
In comment 16538623 Optimus-NY said:
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Give the other guys in the pen besides the three I mentioned above the rest they need.


Agreed!! Depending on this next month we might have to ADD to the pen.
RE: Keith says Peterson has it going on...  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16538625 moze1021 said:
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He gets squeezed on an 0-2 fastball on the black..

HR


This home-plate ump missed strike 3 and cost the Mets those 2 runs.
Brandon gets it back  
moze1021 : 6/17/2024 9:11 pm : link
Nice!
Nimmo  
GF1080 : 6/17/2024 9:12 pm : link
Gets it right back!
It's nice to see the guys at the top of the batting order earning  
Ira : 6/17/2024 9:39 pm : link
their paychecks.
vientos 3/5 with 3 hard hit balls and for the moment back over .300  
Eric on Li : 6/17/2024 10:35 pm : link
good to see since he'd been starting to slump/k more then tonight:

109.5 mph single
92.2 mph single
110 mph 2b
(also had 96 mph groundout, 89 mph flyout)

has the 2 hardest hit balls in the game out of either team. guy is a hard hit baseball machine.
Such a  
JayBinQueens : 6/17/2024 10:49 pm : link
Long lineup if McNeil starts hitting
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GF1080 : 6/17/2024 11:03 pm : link
Love to see it. 22 hits. Team is on a roll now!!
Grimace  
GF1080 : 6/17/2024 11:06 pm : link
Era could be the thing they needed this whole time.
Put ANOTHER one in the books!  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 11:08 pm : link

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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
RE: Grimace  
Optimus-NY : 6/17/2024 11:09 pm : link
In comment 16538665 GF1080 said:
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Era could be the thing they needed this whole time.


6 in a row since Grimace threw that first ball!
Team was completely unwatchable for long stretches  
Metnut : 6/18/2024 8:23 am : link
and now is exciting with multiple players on fire. Hopefully they can keep it up.
RE: Team was completely unwatchable for long stretches  
JayBinQueens : 6/18/2024 10:50 am : link
In comment 16538707 Metnut said:
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and now is exciting with multiple players on fire. Hopefully they can keep it up.


Yup. Before it was "how will they blow this " and now feels like "how will they respond"
per SNY  
KDavies : 6/18/2024 11:21 am : link
Mets are 17-1 in the last 18 games Alvarez has played in.
guys talk me out of this......  
Rory : 6/18/2024 11:26 am : link
I hate to say it but I became accustomed to the slump and was numb to the losses because I knew how well the market was lining up for the Mets at the deadline.

this deadline was set well for the Mets to be sellers, especially with so many teams to be potentially buying.

The return on Sevy, Alonso, Marte and others would be 5X as much as previous years.

Also movement would set the path for Acuna and Scott to come up for the rest of the year and be ready for 2025 roles.

I love the winning but is this fools gold. we saw this in the beginning of the season before. To me it comes down to this.

Does a "non-hot" (not cold) Mets team have the capability to beat the Phillies/Braves/Dodgers ? I'm not so sure, even with the injuries...

That said, I'm loving the Grimace era. Matches up well with the city connect jerseys too lol
has any milwaukee team in the last decade matched up w/ lad/atl/etc?  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 11:37 am : link
did the diamondbacks match up last year?

if the team is above .500, make smart moves and try to keep winning. who knows where it goes.

trying to and ultimately winning as many games as possible is a fundamental part of becoming a winning organization.
RE: has any milwaukee team in the last decade matched up w/ lad/atl/etc?  
KDavies : 6/18/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16538884 Eric on Li said:
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did the diamondbacks match up last year?

if the team is above .500, make smart moves and try to keep winning. who knows where it goes.

trying to and ultimately winning as many games as possible is a fundamental part of becoming a winning organization.


Yep, you never know what happens. Not smart to sell in the playoff hunt.

Sevy and Alonso should get QOs as well. So if not back, they would get a comp pick.
RE: RE: has any milwaukee team in the last decade matched up w/ lad/atl/etc?  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 11:56 am : link
In comment 16538897 KDavies said:
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did the diamondbacks match up last year?

if the team is above .500, make smart moves and try to keep winning. who knows where it goes.

trying to and ultimately winning as many games as possible is a fundamental part of becoming a winning organization.



Yep, you never know what happens. Not smart to sell in the playoff hunt.

Sevy and Alonso should get QOs as well. So if not back, they would get a comp pick.


yep, no real urgency to sell unless there's something special another team puts on the table, and honestly the most special thing they got back last year may be J-rod, who only cost them Pham.

I'd be shopping Marte for something along those lines, fully paid down, but that's because i think his defense is such a net negative he is blocking them from a better roster construction.

at present marte is the worst fielder in MLB:



by DRS he's -10. those 2 main methodologies for advanced defense often disagree, but with marte they are in total alignment.
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 11:59 am : link
they didn't have JDM, Marte at DH would make a ton of sense. Alas....
RE: If  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16538911 DanMetroMan said:
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they didn't have JDM, Marte at DH would make a ton of sense. Alas....


yep, hopefully there's another team without JDM that feels the same way.
RE: RE: has any milwaukee team in the last decade matched up w/ lad/atl/etc?  
JayBinQueens : 6/18/2024 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16538897 KDavies said:
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In comment 16538884 Eric on Li said:



Yep, you never know what happens. Not smart to sell in the playoff hunt.

Sevy and Alonso should get QOs as well. So if not back, they would get a comp pick.


The issue is there's what, 3 teams not in the hunt? Things will shake out a little more in the next month but I'd probably still sell a guy like JDM
RE: RE: RE: has any milwaukee team in the last decade matched up w/ lad/atl/etc?  
KDavies : 6/18/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16538944 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 16538897 KDavies said:


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In comment 16538884 Eric on Li said:



Yep, you never know what happens. Not smart to sell in the playoff hunt.

Sevy and Alonso should get QOs as well. So if not back, they would get a comp pick.



The issue is there's what, 3 teams not in the hunt? Things will shake out a little more in the next month but I'd probably still sell a guy like JDM


Yeah, it's a month and 10 days, so anything can happen between now and then. But as is now, I don't see them being sellers. If they are out of it by the end of July, of course.
wow this board quickly became hyper optimistic  
Rory : 6/18/2024 1:30 pm : link
lol.

I'm here for it though.
so many teams being in hunt could be a good thing for selling marte  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 1:33 pm : link
first let's look at rental bats, soto/bregman/teoscar/ozuna not going anywhere.

giants probably not trading anyone if they are around .500.

cubs have fallen back but i'd kind of doubt they trade bellinger.

if mets were looking for a bat right now, tommy pham, eloy jimenez and justin turner are probably the best rental options i'd be able to come up with. luis robert would be an interesting consideration but he will cost a ton and he is presently hitting .186 with a 40% k-rate.

if marte's bat continues the way it has, he is a strong option if the mets pay him down to where he is essentially "free" DH/part time OF for 2 years.

Here are 16 teams who have gotten nothing from their DH so far - hopefully 1 of them would give us another j-rod/vargas:



Marte has hit better than Arraez this year, who also has 1 more year after this one. Knock the value down by half since Marte is so bad in the field and that is still probably a return we'd be THRILLED with.
Eloy Jimenez  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 1:37 pm : link
is currently hitting .231/.288/.381 and has been worth 0.5 fWAR since OD 2023 (156 games)
RE: wow this board quickly became hyper optimistic  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16538999 Rory said:
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lol.

I'm here for it though.


speaking of optimism, a couple more we should keep faith with stearns, erick fedde who they were a finalist for looks like he would have been the steal of the offseason and michael tonkin whom he was heavily criticized for now has a 2.9 era. the guys i loudly criticized him for not signing for a lot more money have been awful.

so far his eye on the pitching side has been excellent. diaz going in the tank for may was the only real big problem so far.
RE: Eloy Jimenez  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16539009 DanMetroMan said:
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is currently hitting .231/.288/.381 and has been worth 0.5 fWAR since OD 2023 (156 games)


it's amazing but once again tommy pham is probably going to end up the best bat on the market lol.

there's a real selling window for marte, i hope they don't pass on it.
RE: RE: Eloy Jimenez  
Rory : 6/18/2024 1:45 pm : link
In comment 16539013 Eric on Li said:
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is currently hitting .231/.288/.381 and has been worth 0.5 fWAR since OD 2023 (156 games)



it's amazing but once again tommy pham is probably going to end up the best bat on the market lol.

there's a real selling window for marte, i hope they don't pass on it.


Eric, do you think White Sox move Crochet? I'm not so sure they do nor they should.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 1:52 pm : link
Chandler Rome
@Chandler_Rome
Astros manager Joe Espada tells @SportsMT
that Justin Verlander’s progress “is slower than we expected.” Thursday’s starter against the White Sox is still TBA.
RE: RE: RE: Eloy Jimenez  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 1:52 pm : link
In comment 16539018 Rory said:
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is currently hitting .231/.288/.381 and has been worth 0.5 fWAR since OD 2023 (156 games)



it's amazing but once again tommy pham is probably going to end up the best bat on the market lol.

there's a real selling window for marte, i hope they don't pass on it.



Eric, do you think White Sox move Crochet? I'm not so sure they do nor they should.


Reportedly asked for an "absurd" package from the Padres.
RE: .  
Optimus-NY : 6/18/2024 1:54 pm : link
In comment 16539028 DanMetroMan said:
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Chandler Rome
@Chandler_Rome
Astros manager Joe Espada tells @SportsMT
that Justin Verlander’s progress “is slower than we expected.” Thursday’s starter against the White Sox is still TBA.


It  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 1:57 pm : link
was suggested to me that the Getz asked for both Salas and De Vries + "multiple" top pitching prospects (presumably one being Lesko and or Snelling)
RE: RE: RE: Eloy Jimenez  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2024 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16539018 Rory said:
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In comment 16539009 DanMetroMan said:


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is currently hitting .231/.288/.381 and has been worth 0.5 fWAR since OD 2023 (156 games)



it's amazing but once again tommy pham is probably going to end up the best bat on the market lol.

there's a real selling window for marte, i hope they don't pass on it.



Eric, do you think White Sox move Crochet? I'm not so sure they do nor they should.


big trades with players who have term left are rare. look at how many false starts there have been with luzardo and some of these other pitchers who have been rumored available for years now.

look at what arraez cost with 1 more year left after this one.

rental market is generally much easier to estimate both in terms of availability and cost. especially if a team like nym is willing to eat as much $ as necessary to facilitate.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2024 2:35 pm : link
as if MLB is moving away potentially going to a full ABS system (robo umps)
RE: Sounds  
GF1080 : 6/18/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16539064 DanMetroMan said:
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as if MLB is moving away potentially going to a full ABS system (robo umps)


I always thought it would be a challenge system. How many challenges will be the question.
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