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pjcas18 : 6/25/2024 8:27 am
The SC finals are in the rearview and the longest season in NHL history is put to bed.

The NHL Awards are handed out on Thursday night and the draft begins Friday night at the Sphere in Vegas.

The off-season is expected to be a busy one with the first salary cap increase since COVID. The players association opted to leave salaries as is instead of accepting a pay cut during the COVID season(s) and to do that they basically borrowed against future earnings, which suppressed the cap at the current levels.

Anyway, lot of activity could happen between now, the draft and free agency. Several big names rumored to be on the trading block.

Trevor Zegras (MTL and NYR among those named as "interested")
Martin Necas
Patrik Laine
Linus Ullmark (just traded to OTT)
Nikolaj Ehlers
Maybe Mitch Marner and more and then there is buyouts, FA, etc.


Here is the Ullmark trade FWIW:

TRADE ALERT: The #Sens have acquired G Linus Ullmark from @NHLBruins in exchange for (Boston’s original) ’24 first-round draft pick (no. 25 overall), C Mark Kastelic and G Joonas Korpisalo. As part of the transaction, the #Sens will retain 25% of Korpisalo’s remaining salary.… pic.twitter.com/0xRMxi8wZS

— Ottawa Senators (@Senators) June 24, 2024
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RE: Interesting chart on twitter  
BrettNYG10 : 7/9/2024 3:43 pm : link
In comment 16550267 pjcas18 said:
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I'm not exactly sure what "era adjusted" means. Regardless, one thing that struck me is I think of Ovi as better offensive player than Crosby, but it's not close really. I guess Ovi is just a better goal scorer.

I assume McDavid doesn't have the required 700 games played yet for the all-time list. And Lemieux over Gretzky? Gretzky in the NHL had 2857 points at a whopping 1.92 PPG, and Lemieux had 1723 points at a whopping 1.88 PPG. Not sure how they adjusted it for era.



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Paul Pidutti
@AdjustedHockey
🥅 With 2023-24 in the books, here are the top career *era adjusted* point scorers.

CAREER LENGTH matters. Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Gretzky, Sakic maintained over 1,100+ games.

Any big surprises? Panarin, Marner... 👀
#LetsGoOilers #LetsGoPens #GoAvsGo #LeafsForever





I haven't dived into the methodology but I love this stuff, lol.

Lemieux had more of the dead puck era than Gretzky, I guess?

And yeah, McDavid is ~50 games short of the 700 number.
RE: Good article  
Stu11 : 7/9/2024 6:20 pm : link
In comment 16550362 pjcas18 said:
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from THW re: Devils 6th round pick. overager Matyas Melovsky.

The Hockey Writers
@TheHockeyWriter
Devils’ 6th-Round Pick Matyas Melovsky Could Be a Hidden Gem https://ift.tt/MjFm7Ud #THW link - ( New Window )

Thanks PJ good read. Yeah definitely someone to keep an eye on down the road. Sometimes maturity is overlooked when assessing prospects.
Good tutor  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2024 8:24 pm : link


Georges Laraque
@GeorgesLaraque
I’m training Matt Rempe and Tyrel Bauer for hockey fighting, this week in Edmonton, at the Silent Ice arena. If you thought Rempe was a problem this year in the @NHL
, wait till you see him this coming season… 🔥🔥

J’entraîne Matt Rempe et Tyrel Bauer aux combats de hockey, cette semaine à Edmonton, à l’aréna Silent Ice. Si vous pensiez que Rempe était un problème cette année dans la LNH, attendez de le voir lors de la prochaine saison... 🔥🔥🔥

@NYRangers
Most of these guys  
pjcas18 : 7/11/2024 11:20 am : link
signing ELCs will not begin in the NHL (in fact very few will) and many of these ELCs will slide, but it seems like this volume is unprecedented.

Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#UtahHC signs Tij Iginla to a three-year entry-level deal
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pjcas18 : 7/11/2024 11:31 am : link
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#SJSharks sign Sam Dickinson to a three-year entry-level deal
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Sounds like McGroarty  
pjcas18 : 7/12/2024 10:47 am : link
going back to UM for the year, but maybe this floated by WIN is an issue. But wasn't this already known? This isn't a WIN the city thing, it's a WIN the franchise thing. He wasn't happy with their development plan.

"At least two other teams thought they had a deal for Rutger McGroarty during the first round of the draft. One of them, to my knowledge, was put off by the idea that his hope was a clear path to NHL playing time"
RE: Sounds like McGroarty  
JayBinQueens : 7/12/2024 11:05 am : link
In comment 16552369 pjcas18 said:
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going back to UM for the year, but maybe this floated by WIN is an issue. But wasn't this already known? This isn't a WIN the city thing, it's a WIN the franchise thing. He wasn't happy with their development plan.

"At least two other teams thought they had a deal for Rutger McGroarty during the first round of the draft. One of them, to my knowledge, was put off by the idea that his hope was a clear path to NHL playing time"


It makes sense for a kid to want to see that, but is he good enough to demand/expect it?
RE: RE: Sounds like McGroarty  
pjcas18 : 7/12/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16552389 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 16552369 pjcas18 said:


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going back to UM for the year, but maybe this floated by WIN is an issue. But wasn't this already known? This isn't a WIN the city thing, it's a WIN the franchise thing. He wasn't happy with their development plan.

"At least two other teams thought they had a deal for Rutger McGroarty during the first round of the draft. One of them, to my knowledge, was put off by the idea that his hope was a clear path to NHL playing time"



It makes sense for a kid to want to see that, but is he good enough to demand/expect it?


I don't like to see any player demand or even expect playing time, you want everyone to earn it, but I didn't hear this from McGroarty (or read it as a quote from him) so I take it with a grain of salt.

he's a good player, no doubt about it. I view him as a slightly lesser version of Cutter Gauthier.
I notice the cap friendly  
SJGiant : 7/12/2024 6:24 pm : link
Site is down forever. Is there another hockey cap site?
RE: I notice the cap friendly  
pjcas18 : 7/12/2024 6:26 pm : link
In comment 16552614 SJGiant said:
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Site is down forever. Is there another hockey cap site?


The Capitals bought it.

Try puckpedia
link - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 7/13/2024 1:03 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Braden Schneider and NYR have a deal

2 x $2.2M
Braden Schneider  
SJGiant : 7/13/2024 1:37 pm : link
Signing as well as another defenseman.
Branden Schneider signing - ( New Window )
I'm not as big hockey guys as most of you  
Mike from SI : 7/13/2024 3:55 pm : link
but Schneider struck me last year as pretty good with a lot of upside.
RE: I'm not as big hockey guys as most of you  
pjcas18 : 7/13/2024 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16552972 Mike from SI said:
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but Schneider struck me last year as pretty good with a lot of upside.


Absolutely. He has the tools, he was known in the draft as a defensive first defenseman, but with ability for an offensive game to develop. It hasn't really yet, but he's just turning 23 in September so there's time.

off-season  
pjcas18 : 7/15/2024 8:47 am : link
pace is slowing, this is the time a lot of execs take vacations.

One thing I read is CBJ and MTL talking Kent Johnson.

that would be a good addition for MTL and my guess is D would go the other way. Ideally someone like Barron or Harris (plus).

He hasn't produced at the NHL level but he's been hurt and on some bad teams and is still 21 until October. Would probably slot in to the top 6 in MTL. If Dach can come back healthy would be some nice 2nd line options with Dach, Newhook, Johnson, etc. and add Demidov next year now you're talking.

Probably push Gally and Anderson to 3/4th line.

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pjcas18 : 7/15/2024 12:20 pm : link
Daria Tuboltseva
@DariaTuboltseva
Per http://championat.com Evgeni Kuznetsov is set to sign a 4-year contract with SKA as soon as he terminates his agreement with the Hurricanes #CauseChaos #Canes
Really coming in to his own  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 10:18 am : link
big players like him often take longer to acclimate to the NHL game (and grow into their bodies).

Byfield signs 5-year, $31.25 million contract with Kings
RE: off-season  
5BowlsSoon : 7/16/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16553530 pjcas18 said:
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pace is slowing, this is the time a lot of execs take vacations.

One thing I read is CBJ and MTL talking Kent Johnson.

that would be a good addition for MTL and my guess is D would go the other way. Ideally someone like Barron or Harris (plus).

He hasn't produced at the NHL level but he's been hurt and on some bad teams and is still 21 until October. Would probably slot in to the top 6 in MTL. If Dach can come back healthy would be some nice 2nd line options with Dach, Newhook, Johnson, etc. and add Demidov next year now you're talking.

Probably push Gally and Anderson to 3/4th line.


HABS very quiet….my brother sent me this YouTube video from some guy called legorocks99 showing rumors with my Leafs trading both Marner and or Nylander to the HABS. lol…..you wish…..

I also see McGroarty is being talked about as being a HABS….are you interested in him?
I would think MTL  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 12:53 pm : link
can make a move for a young forward like McGroarty, Zegras, Kent Johnson for a D and probably should. I like Zegras more than McGroarty, but Kent Johnson is interesting too. Some of the older names like Necas or Ehlers may cost more, but could also be interesting. Then they need health, growth and one of the goalies to pan out. I saw a few sites penciling them in as a playoff team in 2025-2026 without major injury issues.

I would trade for Marner, but I already shared my offer with you and you rejected it, lol.


Joe Pavelski  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 1:35 pm : link
officially retires. I think we knew that, but made it official.

Maybe a shot at USA Hockey Hall of Fame.

He won't get in the Hockey Hall of Fame IMO (not even really close), but there is something to be said for a great career anyway. From the time he was 22 until he retired at 39 when he played a full season he never had fewer than 40 points and averaged .8 ppg over his 18 years for a 66 points per season average.

just a solid, team captain type, you can slot in your top 6 and expect solid two-way play.
Isles sign Holmstrom  
JayBinQueens : 7/16/2024 8:08 pm : link
1 year $850k

Just to stir the pot in the offseason



Rob Taub
@RTaub_
Simon Holmstrom: 15 goals, 25 points. $850K deal.

Kaapo Kakko: 13 goals, 19 points. $2.4M deal.

Interesting.
PJ how common is it for teams to carry 22 skaters instead of 23?  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 9:07 pm : link
isles are so close to the cap they can carry 22 but not 23. i assume they have some kind of plan but in theory their lineup could be set at 22 with 1 extra only. i dont see them buying out JGP but that would probably be the simplest move if they wanted space. more likely i assume they have a team with cap space willing to take on salary with a pick attached if they need it.

i know rangers had to do all sorts of stuff to fit kane a couple years ago but that was short term. has anyone ever done it entering a season?
RE: PJ how common is it for teams to carry 22 skaters instead of 23?  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16554422 Eric on Li said:
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isles are so close to the cap they can carry 22 but not 23. i assume they have some kind of plan but in theory their lineup could be set at 22 with 1 extra only. i dont see them buying out JGP but that would probably be the simplest move if they wanted space. more likely i assume they have a team with cap space willing to take on salary with a pick attached if they need it.

i know rangers had to do all sorts of stuff to fit kane a couple years ago but that was short term. has anyone ever done it entering a season?

Teams do it. Not sure how common it is but they do it for that exact reason.

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pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 10:18 pm : link
Torey Krug could miss the upcoming season for the St. Louis Blues because of an ankle issue.

The defenseman is out indefinitely after being diagnosed with pre-arthritic changes in his left ankle, which resulted from a bone fracture sustained earlier in his NHL career.
Athletic article on 10 worst contracts.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/18/2024 1:32 pm : link
No Rangers!
The Athletic - ( New Window )
RE: Athletic article on 10 worst contracts.  
Stu11 : 7/18/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16555446 BrettNYG10 said:
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No Rangers! The Athletic - ( New Window )

Surprised Palat wasn't in there.
RE: Athletic article on 10 worst contracts.  
pjcas18 : 7/18/2024 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16555446 BrettNYG10 said:
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No Rangers! The Athletic - ( New Window )


I immediately thought Darnell Nurse. lol.

Huberdeau trade/signing is a disaster, who could have figured out he was a product of Barkov in FLA?
I love seeing  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2024 5:19 pm : link
stuff like this. also just in general how players celebrate with the cup. There was a link last week showing how the 4 Finnish Panthers celebrated like heroes at home in Finland. They showed Ovi on a week-long bender when the Caps won.

Tkachuk with fire/first responders and the Stanley Cup in his hometown. Also brought it to a children's hospital.


link - ( New Window )
holy shit  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2024 8:10 pm : link
Panarin. if this ever went in....
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RE: holy shit  
BrettNYG10 : 7/21/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16556450 pjcas18 said:
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Panarin. if this ever went in.... link - ( New Window )


Pft, I can do that.
RE: RE: holy shit  
pjcas18 : 7/21/2024 6:12 pm : link
In comment 16556553 BrettNYG10 said:
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Panarin. if this ever went in.... link - ( New Window )



Pft, I can do that.


I can't lol. the worst thing about seeing things like this is it's all the kids want to do these days and I want them practicing fundamentals. the best thing is as a coach, so many more kids now show up to stick time and open skates when we get older kids to help them work on stuff like this.
The Athletic evaluates active players for their HOF  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2024 11:58 am : link
status with the following tiers:

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They could retire today and make it
Right on the cusp
Outside shots
On track
Check back in a few years


no arguments with the top tier.
I can share names if anyone is interested. didn't want to duplicate the whole article if no one cares.

Not sure this guy should work in the NHL again  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2024 9:48 am : link
but I also believe in redemption. So this has me conflicted. I will not pretend to know what he knew and when, but I think it's fair to say he did know something and did not act. I feel like I now need to root against EDM.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing the Edmonton Oilers will hire Stan Bowman as GM today…media conference to be held sometime this morning.
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RE: RE: RE: holy shit  
BrettNYG10 : 7/25/2024 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16556725 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16556553 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 16556450 pjcas18 said:


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Panarin. if this ever went in.... link - ( New Window )



Pft, I can do that.



I can't lol. the worst thing about seeing things like this is it's all the kids want to do these days and I want them practicing fundamentals. the best thing is as a coach, so many more kids now show up to stick time and open skates when we get older kids to help them work on stuff like this.


Lol, I played with a guy last week who plays in Czechia that can do what Panarin did. But he was great at everything else, too.
RE: The Athletic evaluates active players for their HOF  
BrettNYG10 : 7/25/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16557554 pjcas18 said:
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status with the following tiers:



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They could retire today and make it
Right on the cusp
Outside shots
On track
Check back in a few years




no arguments with the top tier.
I can share names if anyone is interested. didn't want to duplicate the whole article if no one cares.


Thanks for sharing the link.
RE: RE: The Athletic evaluates active players for their HOF  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2024 5:42 pm : link
In comment 16559826 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 16557554 pjcas18 said:


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status with the following tiers:



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They could retire today and make it
Right on the cusp
Outside shots
On track
Check back in a few years




no arguments with the top tier.
I can share names if anyone is interested. didn't want to duplicate the whole article if no one cares.




Thanks for sharing the link.


lol, I figured grown ups could find it on the Athletic site for themselves.


link for people who cannot type in athletic.com - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 7/25/2024 5:59 pm : link
Pittsburgh Penguins
@penguins
SIGNED ✍️

The Penguins have signed forward Brayden Yager to a three-year, entry-level contract.

Details: https://pens.pe/3ybojVY
RE: RE: RE: The Athletic evaluates active players for their HOF  
BrettNYG10 : 7/25/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16559843 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16559826 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 16557554 pjcas18 said:


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status with the following tiers:



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They could retire today and make it
Right on the cusp
Outside shots
On track
Check back in a few years




no arguments with the top tier.
I can share names if anyone is interested. didn't want to duplicate the whole article if no one cares.




Thanks for sharing the link.



lol, I figured grown ups could find it on the Athletic site for themselves.
link for people who cannot type in athletic.com - ( New Window )


Why did you think I was a grown up??

Also, I'm grossed out by the Bowman stuff. He did a bad job those final years too, lol, weird hire. I don't get why Holland left anyway, I'm out of touch these days.
I think Holland  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2024 1:29 pm : link
was asked to leave and they framed it as mutual. just my guess.

I think this matters. I don't know how much or if its materially in the standings. I know these guys aren't flying commercial, but as a work traveler for many years I can say air travel is exhausting.

Mostly Pacific teams bear the brunt of it.

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NHLtoSeattle
@NHLtoSeattle
Travel distance by team for the upcoming NHL Season. #SeaKraken




RE: I think Holland  
JayBinQueens : 7/26/2024 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16560368 pjcas18 said:
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was asked to leave and they framed it as mutual. just my guess.

I think this matters. I don't know how much or if its materially in the standings. I know these guys aren't flying commercial, but as a work traveler for many years I can say air travel is exhausting.

Mostly Pacific teams bear the brunt of it.



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NHLtoSeattle
@NHLtoSeattle
Travel distance by team for the upcoming NHL Season. #SeaKraken






I would imagine it's a similar list every year. Seattle doesn't have many teams close buy compared to the Metro etc
Ryan Lindgren signs 1/$4.5  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2024 2:08 pm : link
.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/30/2024 2:32 pm : link
pj, I think it's weird they got rid of him after a successful season.

Greg, I would have traded Lindgren and tried to get Chychrun before he went to WAS. Meh.
yeah I'm on record as being fine with moving on from Lindgren  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2024 2:34 pm : link
His metrics were pretty bad last season, big drop from previous years, and he's undersized for the style he plays.

I get Dan Girardi vibes from him.
RE: Ryan Lindgren signs 1/$4.5  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2024 2:39 pm : link
In comment 16563883 Greg from LI said:
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Fair.

Basically that fills out the Rangers roster.

They have 23/23 contracts.

623k in cap space.

If they make no other moves.
RE: yeah I'm on record as being fine with moving on from Lindgren  
BrettNYG10 : 7/30/2024 2:48 pm : link
In comment 16563935 Greg from LI said:
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His metrics were pretty bad last season, big drop from previous years, and he's undersized for the style he plays.

I get Dan Girardi vibes from him.


Hopefully we won't have to suffer from three years of declining, objectively awful play while a few morons scream about what a warrior he is as a defense for his atrocious play.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/30/2024 2:54 pm : link
Rangers legend Eric Staal retired.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2024 2:56 pm : link
In comment 16563927 BrettNYG10 said:
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pj, I think it's weird they got rid of him after a successful season.

Greg, I would have traded Lindgren and tried to get Chychrun before he went to WAS. Meh.


it may seem weird to say after losing game 7 of the SCF, but I kind of think in EDM they view that as under-performing.

So top heavy still.

Wild  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2024 7:57 pm : link
taking care of business.

The Hockey News
@TheHockeyNews
The Minnesota Wild made a massive investment in signing sophomore Brock Faber to an eight-year, $68-million contract, but it's all about being proactive, says Adam Proteau:
Kent Hughes  
pjcas18 : 7/31/2024 9:28 am : link
doing work. MTL has no excuses now but to improve.

they have locked up Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, and Guhle

the latter three all 1st round picks they nailed.

If they could get rid of Gallagher and Anderson it would be better but for now those two are in the bottom 6.

Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have agreed to terms on a six-year contract extension (2025-26 to 2030-31) with defenseman Kaiden Guhle.

News release ↓ #GoHabsGo
Just seeing  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2024 8:09 am : link
some highlights from the WJSS I feel like some teams are going to regret passing on Cole Eiserman.
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