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pjcas18 : 6/25/2024 8:27 am
The SC finals are in the rearview and the longest season in NHL history is put to bed.

The NHL Awards are handed out on Thursday night and the draft begins Friday night at the Sphere in Vegas.

The off-season is expected to be a busy one with the first salary cap increase since COVID. The players association opted to leave salaries as is instead of accepting a pay cut during the COVID season(s) and to do that they basically borrowed against future earnings, which suppressed the cap at the current levels.

Anyway, lot of activity could happen between now, the draft and free agency. Several big names rumored to be on the trading block.

Trevor Zegras (MTL and NYR among those named as "interested")
Martin Necas
Patrik Laine
Linus Ullmark (just traded to OTT)
Nikolaj Ehlers
Maybe Mitch Marner and more and then there is buyouts, FA, etc.


Here is the Ullmark trade FWIW:

TRADE ALERT: The #Sens have acquired G Linus Ullmark from @NHLBruins in exchange for (Boston’s original) ’24 first-round draft pick (no. 25 overall), C Mark Kastelic and G Joonas Korpisalo. As part of the transaction, the #Sens will retain 25% of Korpisalo’s remaining salary.… pic.twitter.com/0xRMxi8wZS

— Ottawa Senators (@Senators) June 24, 2024
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RE: I'd like to offer  
Eric on Li : 7/2/2024 4:40 pm : link
In comment 16547375 pjcas18 said:
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sheet Seth Jarvis, but I think CAR can match. I'd still like to force them to do it.

I think they regret their "revenge" Kotkaniemi offer sheet.


most offer sheets end up regretted because the only way to win is to overpay. it's really a no win situation, unless the team getting poached is so up against the cap they cant match a fair offer.
RE: RE: I'd like to offer  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16547384 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16547375 pjcas18 said:


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sheet Seth Jarvis, but I think CAR can match. I'd still like to force them to do it.

I think they regret their "revenge" Kotkaniemi offer sheet.



most offer sheets end up regretted because the only way to win is to overpay. it's really a no win situation, unless the team getting poached is so up against the cap they cant match a fair offer.


100% agree, overpay or find a poison pill loophole that the current team can't match - which they are trying to legislate out, but still can happen from time to time.
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pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 5:32 pm : link
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#TBLightning sign Cam Atkinson to a one-year deal at $900,000
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pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 5:43 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing Ottawa and Shane Pinto have solved the stalemate.

Sounds like 2 x $3.5M+ (not exactly sure of the number)
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 5:47 pm : link
In comment 16547429 pjcas18 said:
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing Ottawa and Shane Pinto have solved the stalemate.

Sounds like 2 x $3.5M+ (not exactly sure of the number)


Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#Sens re-sign Shane Pinto to a two-year deal at a 3.75M AAV
RE: RE: .  
Eric on Li : 7/2/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16547430 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16547429 pjcas18 said:


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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing Ottawa and Shane Pinto have solved the stalemate.

Sounds like 2 x $3.5M+ (not exactly sure of the number)



Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#Sens re-sign Shane Pinto to a two-year deal at a 3.75M AAV


Looks like they found out lol
wow  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 7:46 pm : link
I wonder if he starts in the NHL or AHL.

Allan Walsh🏒
@walsha
Congrats to 16th overall pick Adam Jiricek on signing his NHL Entry-Level Contract with the @StLouisBlues
. He’s the 1st player signed to an NHL contract from the 2024 Draft. @adamjiricek5
@ehshockey
⁦@OctagonHockey
PJ if you were an expansion team GM  
Stu11 : 7/2/2024 8:16 pm : link
Your first 2 picks in the expansion draft would be Tuna and Toffoli loL
RE: PJ if you were an expansion team GM  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16547463 Stu11 said:
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Your first 2 picks in the expansion draft would be Tuna and Toffoli loL


I love those guys, and then Joel Armia. lol.

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pjcas18 : 7/2/2024 10:54 pm : link
Winnipeg Sports Talk
@SportsTalkWPG
"One person told me three teams to keep an eye on here are Buffalo, Columbus, and the New York Islanders" - @mikemcintyrewpg
discussing Rutger McGroarty's potential trade destinations with @hustlerama
on today's program.
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 7/2/2024 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16547591 pjcas18 said:
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Winnipeg Sports Talk
@SportsTalkWPG
"One person told me three teams to keep an eye on here are Buffalo, Columbus, and the New York Islanders" - @mikemcintyrewpg
discussing Rutger McGroarty's potential trade destinations with @hustlerama
on today's program.


other than an A+ hockey name, what's the deal with him? odd to be trading such a recent first round pick right?
RE: RE: .  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 7:48 am : link
In comment 16547592 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16547591 pjcas18 said:


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Winnipeg Sports Talk
@SportsTalkWPG
"One person told me three teams to keep an eye on here are Buffalo, Columbus, and the New York Islanders" - @mikemcintyrewpg
discussing Rutger McGroarty's potential trade destinations with @hustlerama
on today's program.



other than an A+ hockey name, what's the deal with him? odd to be trading such a recent first round pick right?


Similar to how Cutter Gauthier was in PHI, I don't think McGroarty is comfortable with the development plan from the Jets.

My interpretation is he thinks he's NHL ready, I think most outsiders would agree, but the Jets don't seem to think so I guess.
I read the NY Post  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 8:22 am : link
story for the first time, and thought this blurb was interesting. Anakim is ready to go burn the guys house down, but turns out he didn't even block anything. DET may be on his NT list, that isn't shared, but reports of him blocking a trade are not true. At least not yet.

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....The anticipated trade to Detroit did not materialize after No. 8 handed in his 15-team no-trade list to GM Chris Drury as due on Monday. Sources now report that the deal as depicted in this space on Saturday with the Blueshirts retaining $2.5 million of Trouba’s annual $8M cap charge the next two years was not on the table. We are told that the suggestion Trouba rejected the deal is not true.....
the guys on Blueshirts Breakaway  
bigbluehoya : 7/3/2024 9:28 am : link
(who I have mixed feelings about, but they do a pretty thorough job covering the team, and have good relationships with some of the people who are plugged in) seem pretty convinced that Trouba is still not going to be here and that it's just taking some time to sort out.

There's  
Jon In NYC : 7/3/2024 9:29 am : link
no way he's returning after all this.

Larry basically doxxed his wife, they probably want to get the fuck out of here at this point.
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 9:41 am : link
I have a hard time seeing how he plays for the team after this. Certainly not as captain and that's always awkward (though it happens - Lindros, Sakic, maybe more, maybe even Brett Hull).

But now that they mismanaged it the team lost any leverage and will need a Grier or someone to bail them out.

RE: I read the NY Post  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 9:43 am : link
In comment 16547658 pjcas18 said:
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story for the first time, and thought this blurb was interesting. Anakim is ready to go burn the guys house down, but turns out he didn't even block anything. DET may be on his NT list, that isn't shared, but reports of him blocking a trade are not true. At least not yet.



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....The anticipated trade to Detroit did not materialize after No. 8 handed in his 15-team no-trade list to GM Chris Drury as due on Monday. Sources now report that the deal as depicted in this space on Saturday with the Blueshirts retaining $2.5 million of Trouba’s annual $8M cap charge the next two years was not on the table. We are told that the suggestion Trouba rejected the deal is not true.....



So Uncle Larry admitted he lied?
Maybe even Joe Thornton  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 9:48 am : link
as a player who was captain and then not, but remained on the team.
RE: Maybe even Joe Thornton  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 9:50 am : link
In comment 16547723 pjcas18 said:
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as a player who was captain and then not, but remained on the team.


Or Blake Wheeler
As a Ranger fan this offseason has been totally underwhelming  
Rick in Dallas : 7/3/2024 9:55 am : link
The last 3 years playoff run has shown that this core group of players cannot get over the hump to win the Cup.
I know we have salary cap constraints but the deletions and additions to the roster this offseason is meh at best
Plus the Trouba drama probably doesn’t play well in the locker room and chemistry of team.
Not a big fan of Drury to say the least
Living in Texas I don’t get all the newspaper articles about the team and to his offseason
But as a fan living 1600 miles away I am underwhelmed by the moves.
Maybe my Ranger buddies on BBI can fill in the blanks for me to give me hope for next season
Just reading between the lines, my best guess is that Drury overplayed  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 9:57 am : link
his hand.


I think the Red Wings proposal was very much on the table, but it occurred before Trouba was obligated to submit his 15-team trade list. I think Drury assumed that Trouba would've been happy to go to the Red Wings because they were his childhood team and he grew up in Michigan and his wife went to UMich (not sure where she grew up). And if the Uncle Larry article wasn't printed before July 1st, Trouba may very well not have had Detroit on his no-trade list.


But because it was released early, it spooked Trouba and caught him off-guard and now we're in the position we're in.

So Drury overplayed his hand and was ruthless, Uncle Larry either lied or carelessly wrote this story at an inopportune time, and Trouba is now butthurt.




That's my take, at least.
RE: As a Ranger fan this offseason has been totally underwhelming  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16547730 Rick in Dallas said:
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The last 3 years playoff run has shown that this core group of players cannot get over the hump to win the Cup.
I know we have salary cap constraints but the deletions and additions to the roster this offseason is meh at best
Plus the Trouba drama probably doesn’t play well in the locker room and chemistry of team.
Not a big fan of Drury to say the least
Living in Texas I don’t get all the newspaper articles about the team and to his offseason
But as a fan living 1600 miles away I am underwhelmed by the moves.
Maybe my Ranger buddies on BBI can fill in the blanks for me to give me hope for next season


I think the only good move Drury has made was signing Trocheck
I wouldn't use butthurt  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 10:21 am : link
to describe a man looking out for his family and considering options completely within his rights to address considering their best interest, but I see how you, a single person, could look at it that way.
RE: I wouldn't use butthurt  
BrettNYG10 : 7/3/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16547753 pjcas18 said:
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to describe a man looking out for his family and considering options completely within his rights to address considering their best interest, but I see how you, a single person, could look at it that way.


rekt
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BrettNYG10 : 7/3/2024 10:32 am : link
I want what's best for the Rangers, but Trouba negotiated for his NTC and is well within his rights to do whatever he wants.

I've said this forever: I don't think players utilize their leverage enough. There should be more Eli Manning's, Cutter Gauthier, Adam Fox's, Kevin Hayes's, etc. (Notice how my team is usually on the winning side of those, lol)
RE: I wouldn't use butthurt  
Mad Mike : 7/3/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16547753 pjcas18 said:
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to describe a man looking out for his family and considering options completely within his rights to address considering their best interest, but I see how you, a single person, could look at it that way.

I agree, I don't think Trouba's done anything wrong, or even unexpected, here. And the fact that it seems so unexpected to me makes it very frustrating that Drury has allowed the situation to develop this way. They know his situation, they surely knew he'd be resistant to a trade. I don't know exactly what the rules are about how quickly a player has to provide his no-trade list, but it's a real failure that the team didn't get that squared away before moving forward with a potential trade that he wouldn't accept. Now the team looks bad and he's taking, at least from some quarters, undeserved grief.
RE: I wouldn't use butthurt  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16547753 pjcas18 said:
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to describe a man looking out for his family and considering options completely within his rights to address considering their best interest, but I see how you, a single person, could look at it that way.


How do you know I'm single?
When term  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 11:39 am : link
is more important than $$. I wonder if he got a NTC.

NHL.com
@NHLdotcom
Carrier signs 6-year, $12 million contract with Hurricanes:
i think it's cool when brothers are on the same team  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 11:49 am : link
like the Hughes' brothers, so this is cool to me with POJ joining Matthew.

St. Louis Blues
@StLouisBlues
The Blues have signed Pierre-Olivier Joseph to a one-year contract. #stlblues
For the Devils fans in here Fitz had his presser today at rookie camp  
Stu11 : 7/3/2024 12:07 pm : link
some interesting stuff. #10 came down to Helenius vs. Silayev and it was almost flip a coin time they went with the 6'7 unicorn type D. Also I think he's really looking for Mercer to be a top 6 guy. Sounds like he's pretty much done. Dougie is 100%, Jack and Timo still not but will be ready by September. Timo's injury was quiet but its clear he wasn't near 100% for much of last year hence how poorly he played till the last 25 games or so. The Kovacevic thing fell into his lap on Sunday. Wasn't looking at him at all. Jay I know you're concerned about all the back 6 guys they added but he saw that as an area that really needed to improve along with the D.
Link - ( New Window )
The high floor  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 12:17 pm : link
Fin vs the high ceiling Russian.

hard to second guess it either way. I think both players wind up solid NHL players.
Regarding the Rangers  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/3/2024 12:27 pm : link
and I saw this on NYR Reddit and thought it was applicable, but every team is "not good enough" to get over the hump, until they do it. Much like ARod and his Yanks tenure, he was maligned as a playoff failure and choke artist, until he wasn't. Look at the prior 3 year results of some of the last few Cup winners:

2024 Panthers: Lost the Cup, Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in 1st Round
2023 Golden Knights: Outlier due to the expansion, so I'll exclude them
2022 Avalanche: Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in 2nd Round
2020 TBL (first of the repeat): Swept in 1st round after 128 points, Lost ECF, No Playoffs
2019 Blues: No Playoffs, Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in WCF
2018 Caps: Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in 2nd Round, Lost in 2nd Round

This is a team that just won the President's Cup, and if anything, should find themselves right back in the mix next year. Arguably our best skater in Fox was hurt in the 1st round which completely hampered his game. We lost to a superior team, no doubt. The organization certainly knows where the problems are, and even though it's much of the same core coming back, I imagine the looks will be different. Minutes scaled back for players, are younger guys being given tougher assignments etc. Drury tried with Trouba, and it's in his right to make utilize his leverage to stay. The sky is falling for this team is a bit much. We still have Igor, and I'll go to war with him net any year.
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pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 1:52 pm : link
Ryan S. Clark
@ryan_s_clark
BREAKING: The Seattle Kraken have hired Jessica Campbell as an assistant coach which makes her the first woman in NHL history to be behind the bench. #SeaKraken
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pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 4:13 pm : link
Florida Panthers
@FlaPanthers
We have agreed to terms with defenseman Nate Schmidt on a one-year contract!
.  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 4:13 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
6 x $5M AAV for Lundell
RE: For the Devils fans in here Fitz had his presser today at rookie camp  
Jay on the Island : 7/3/2024 4:50 pm : link
In comment 16547840 Stu11 said:
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some interesting stuff. #10 came down to Helenius vs. Silayev and it was almost flip a coin time they went with the 6'7 unicorn type D. Also I think he's really looking for Mercer to be a top 6 guy. Sounds like he's pretty much done. Dougie is 100%, Jack and Timo still not but will be ready by September. Timo's injury was quiet but its clear he wasn't near 100% for much of last year hence how poorly he played till the last 25 games or so. The Kovacevic thing fell into his lap on Sunday. Wasn't looking at him at all. Jay I know you're concerned about all the back 6 guys they added but he saw that as an area that really needed to improve along with the D. Link - ( New Window )

The bottom 6 desperately needed an infusion of new blood. I wasn't upset of who they brought in but I just didn't like the term on Noesen's contract. Tatar is clearly declining but he should still be a very good addition to the bottom 6 along with Cotter, Noesen, and the return of Nolan Foote. I hope this spells the end of Bastian on the everyday roster. He really had a poor season last year.

While they paid a little too much for Pesce and Dillon I was happy with both additions. I really liked the Kovacevic addition. An unspectacular but solid Dman who is still young.

I have no idea how the D lineups will work out but ideally they will be:
Hughes Pesce
Siegenthaler Hamilton
Dillon Nemec
Kovacevic
DET  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 5:04 pm : link
having an interesting off-season.

Detroit Red Wings
@DetroitRedWings
HEADED TO THE TARASENK-SHOW!

The #RedWings today signed forward Vladimir Tarasenko to a two-year contract with an AAV of $4.75M.
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pjcas18 : 7/3/2024 6:00 pm : link
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
TRADE:

To Anaheim Ducks:
Robby Fabbri
2025 conditional 4th round pick (BOS)

To Detroit Red Wings
Gage Alexander

CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
Adding Robby Fabbri's $4M cap hit brings the Anaheim Ducks above the cap floor.

All 32 teams are now above the cap floor. The Calgary Flames currently hold the most cap space with a projection of $21.7M in cap space.
That really wasn't cool, PJ.  
Anakim : 7/3/2024 11:49 pm : link
I know you're better than that.
RE: That really wasn't cool, PJ.  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2024 8:07 am : link
In comment 16548144 Anakim said:
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I know you're better than that.



What are you talking about wasn't cool?
$2.8M  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2024 11:15 am : link
.

Carolina Hurricanes
@Canes
Starting the fireworks early today 🎆

The #Canes have signed forward Jack Roslovic to a one-year deal!

Details » http://n.carhur.com/3RWxlN7
RE: That really wasn't cool, PJ.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/4/2024 11:25 am : link
In comment 16548144 Anakim said:
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I know you're better than that.


Is he tho
RE: RE: That really wasn't cool, PJ.  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2024 11:38 am : link
In comment 16548283 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 16548144 Anakim said:


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I know you're better than that.



Is he tho


lol, no. Still not sure what specifically though I did but I am probably not "better than that"
SEA signing Tolvanen  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2024 3:26 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
GM Ron Francis announced the deal during development camp

2 x $3.475M for Tolvanen
.  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2024 3:26 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Believe Winnipeg will be acquiring D Dylan Coghlan from Carolina, too

RFA with a big shot
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pjcas18 : 7/5/2024 3:30 pm : link
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Alright, let's try this again 🤪... 4 players drafted last week in Vegas have signed their 3-year ELCs today, so far:

Seattle signed Berkly Catton (8th overall)
Calgary signed Zayne Parekh (9th OV) & Matvei Gridin (28th OV)
Washington signed Terik Parascak (17th OV)
.  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2024 4:07 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Ryan McLeod is being traded from Edmonton to Buffalo
Anakim loved Savoie in this draft  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2024 4:20 pm : link
one of those "shot is the carrying tool" prospects.

Will fit in better in EDM than BUF probably.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Believe Matt Savoie is return. Ty Tullio also going to Sabres
seems like  
pjcas18 : 7/6/2024 8:03 pm : link
quite a few players signing ELC's - not sure if this is unusual or not, or if its' just a way to get them out of NCAA or keep them in NA. Maybe these ELCs slide on year 1 and the player plays juniors or something for year 1.

I just don't remember so many ELC's signed so early.

Philadelphia Flyers
@NHLFlyers
OFFICIAL: Jett’s taking flight. #LetsGoFlyers

RE: seems like  
Stu11 : 7/6/2024 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16549190 pjcas18 said:
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quite a few players signing ELC's - not sure if this is unusual or not, or if its' just a way to get them out of NCAA or keep them in NA. Maybe these ELCs slide on year 1 and the player plays juniors or something for year 1.

I just don't remember so many ELC's signed so early.

Philadelphia Flyers
@NHLFlyers
OFFICIAL: Jett’s taking flight. #LetsGoFlyers


Yeah PJ I was wondering the same thing. I was surprised Beckette Sennecke signed his yesterday. From the sounds of it pre-draft it seemed like he was a late riser due to his OHL playoff performance. Didn't seem like he was near NHL ready but maybe like you said he'll either be sent right back to juniors for next season or have the 6 game NHL tryout to see if he can stick or not burn a year of his ELC.
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