NFT: NHL - Draft, Free Agency, Awards, Trades - Off-season Thread

In comment 16545943 pjcas18 said:

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how this plays out, but maybe something to keep an eye on (with Hart at least). Chris Johnston @reporterchris Sources say there is no change to the NHL rights of the Canadian world junior players charged with sexual assault. That means Dillon Dubé (CGY), Carter Hart (PHI), Michael McLeod (NJ) and Cal Foote (NJ) will become UFA's if not tendered a qualifying offer by 5 p.m. ET on Sunday.

Yeah no way the Devils tender McLeod. Hart is a very interesting situation.

should be doing right now is commiting 6 or so years at 9+ mill per it's gonna cost for Guentzel. They're off their rocker.

from Domi, hate the Leafs, but I love when players love where they are.


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Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
It was believed it would be an either/or for the Leafs in negotiations with Domi and Bertuzzi. However, with Domi locked down, Toronto continues to negotiate with Tyler Bertuzzi.

In comment 16545948 Stu11 said:

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Yeah no way the Devils tender McLeod. Hart is a very interesting situation.

Yea easy decision there. I think Hart will be the only one tendered.

In comment 16545921 pjcas18 said:

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a lot of trades as the draft. Is there usually more activity? PLD went pre-draft as did Mangiapane - both to WAS. Only one I did not see reported yet was Boqvist. Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC Buyout waivers today: Adam Boqvist (Columbus), Jack Campbell (Edmonton), Nate Schmidt (Winnipeg)

maybe i missed but did any players move for firsts around draft? feel like there have been a bunch in the last few drafts and maybe this is just a nyi centric thing but the trend had felt like more trades of 1st round picks for established players (romanov, fiala, debrincat, but maybe that was just an outlier in 2022).

In comment 16545994 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16545921 pjcas18 said: Quote: a lot of trades as the draft. Is there usually more activity? PLD went pre-draft as did Mangiapane - both to WAS. Only one I did not see reported yet was Boqvist. Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC Buyout waivers today: Adam Boqvist (Columbus), Jack Campbell (Edmonton), Nate Schmidt (Winnipeg) maybe i missed but did any players move for firsts around draft? feel like there have been a bunch in the last few drafts and maybe this is just a nyi centric thing but the trend had felt like more trades of 1st round picks for established players (romanov, fiala, debrincat, but maybe that was just an outlier in 2022).

Well relatively speaking...and omitting player trades for a moment, so just trades involving a 1st...

last year, 2023 draft there were 0 trades. A function of a strong draft class and weak FA class.

but the 2024 draft (just at the draft) there were 6 trades involving 1st round picks.

in 2022 at the draft there were 6.

Some of them in 2022, like Romanov, Debrincat, Dach, etc involved players.

In 2024, none did, but the trades were still happening.

none of top names like necas, ehlers, marner ended up moving, probably because this happens to be a year where you can buy forwards in FA.

of the FA class but also the 2024 draft winding up stronger (from a prospect standpoint) than once was anticipated.

2023 draft is regarded as strong because it was so top heavy with Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, but overall there was not that much positional diversity.

2024 did not have a Bedard, but from a depth standpoint might be stronger than 2023 and has a better mix of F and D, so teams did not want to give up those 1sts after scouting players and becoming comfortable with who could be available when they pick.

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In comment 16546032 Stu11 said:

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What did you think of the Devils draft?

Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
A few notes ahead of July 1 in the NHL…

As I said on our draft broadcast, the Jacob Trouba stuff is real. Believe family considerations are huge - and that could be hold up with potential Red Wings trade. We’ll see what transpires over next few hours before his trade protection kicks in, but his future with NYR is in limbo.

Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
All focus for Tampa Bay after clearing cap space is to sign Jake Guentzel. Canes closed in on framework in Vegas, but Guentzel got so close to July, he decided to test elsewhere. Canes will busy regardless. Many in the NHL are focusing on Nashville for Stamkos but I wouldn’t rule out anything.

Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
The Devils making big moves this offseason. Already got Jacob Markstrom and as @EmptyNettersPod
first reported, expectation is Brett Pesce also signs. Don’t think they’re done after that either.

Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
Patrick Kane is still in communication with Red Wings and I think there’s a possibility he goes back. While fit and a chance to win are most important, term and money also have to make sense.

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Patrick Kane is still in communication with Red Wings and I think there’s a possibility he goes back. While fit and a chance to win are most important, term and money also have to make sense.

What else is left when deciding on a contract lol

In comment 16546046 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 16546032 Stu11 said: Quote: . What did you think of the Devils draft?

Jay I loved the Silayev pick. His size and skating and defensive/shut down and hitting upside are a fit on any team. Buium would have been an interesting pick and has tremendous upside as well, but with Luke, Hamilton and even Nemec here for the foreseeable future offensively we're fine there. The rest of the draft was very meh to me. I mean I'm going on all what I read, I wouldn't know these guys if they fell out of the sky into my living room. The 3rd Rd kid from Finland is interesting with his size and upside. The goalie in the 2nd Rd. Doesn't blow me away. Seems like he's most likely a backup. What did you think?

Lol

are predominantly the 1st round.

That's not to say the rest is meaningless, of course its meaningful, but the odds of NHL draft success is skewed to the 1st round more than any other sports draft, even baseball.

THW just did a study of every draft from 1963-2023.

Just a draft pick playing at least 1 NHL game drops 20% from Round 1 to Round 2 (88% to 68%).

playing at least 100 games drops over 30% from round 1 to round 2 (from 70% to 39%) basically that's saying a 2nd round pick in the NHL draft has historically a 40% chance of playing at least 100 games. a season is 82). A 2nd round pick has just a 25% chance of playing 300 NHL games which is considered an ok career.

Every later round gets worse.

Which is why I'd give up 2nd round picks or later very easily, but I'd be hesitant to give up 1sts (not groundbreaking, lol, but the discrepancy is wide).

Article linked below...
Success Rate of NHL Draft Picks - ( New Window )

I absolutely loved the Silayev pick. I saw several mocks with him going 3rd overall so I didn't expect him to fall to 10. I've seen comps to Hedman and Chara but I think the Hedman comps are extreme best case scenario but he is exactly what this team needs, a potential elite shutdown defenseman. If his offensive game develops more I expect him to be a 1st line LD who can chip in 35-45 points a year. Buium is very talented but he's another offensive Dman with a questions about his play in his own zone. The Devils have enough offensive defensemen with Hamilton, Hughes, Nemec, and soon Casey. Now they can play Silayev with Nemec or Casey in the future.

I really did like the Yegorov pick. He was arguably the best goalie prospect in the draft and he is already in North America so there is no concern about him possibly not coming over. He is committed to BU in the 25-26 season.

The other picks were meh but I was happy to see them take another goalie later. It is so difficult to project goalies and so many mid to late round picks turn into good starters so the more chances you take the better the odds. Even after trading Schmid the Devils have a nice group of goalie prospects with Daws, Brennan, Malek, Yegorov, and Louhivaara.

Schmid I am fine with trading as there was a logjam in net in the minors with all the prospects but I wanted to see how Holtz would perform with a fresh start under Keefe. Cotter is a solid 4th line LW but nothing special and they could have easily found a player similar.

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
It's not only the Rangers who swing and miss. Dallas traded a No. 1 for Nils Lundkvist. He played 119 games for Stars over two years, was not qualified, and is eligible to become UFA tomorrow at age 23.

a good player.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#UtahHC Sean Durzi breakdown:

2024-26: $7.1 million
2025-26: $5.6 million
2026-27: $4.8 million
2027-28: $6.5 million

Total: 4 years, $24 million, $6 million AAV
Includes a 10-team NTC clause starting July 1, 2026.
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Hearing #Habs have traded D Jonathan Kovacevic.

No word yet on where or return.

Canadiens had a logjam on defense - and no shortage of right-shooting blueliners at that.

In comment 16546092 Jay on the Island said:

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Schmid I am fine with trading as there was a logjam in net in the minors with all the prospects but I wanted to see how Holtz would perform with a fresh start under Keefe. Cotter is a solid 4th line LW but nothing special and they could have easily found a player similar.

That was my initial reaction to the trade. However as I mentioned in another post trade wise Holtz had no value around the league. I agree I'd have loved to see him get a fresh start with Keefe. However it seems like they just gave up on him. The analytics actually like Cotter. He's a very good skater and hitter, dirt cheap at less than a million. Tomorrow will be very interesting. Everyone seems to think Pesce is all but done but the have space to do other things as well. They're still in the market for a top 6 fwd.

In comment 16546099 pjcas18 said:

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Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Hearing #Habs have traded D Jonathan Kovacevic.

Kovacevic is going to #njdevils in exchange for a 2026 4th Round Pick.

Kovacevik is solid, but not spectacular.

In comment 16546104 pjcas18 said:

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Kovacevik is solid, but not spectacular.

I like it. He's still pretty young and he was solid but it's odd that they added another RD. They have Hamilton, Nemec, and likely Pesce there plus DeSimone and Casey in the minors.

In comment 16546104 pjcas18 said:

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Kovacevik is solid, but not spectacular.

Yeah could be Bahl's replacement on the roster. Cheap depth piece.

allegedly in on McGroarty.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Patrick Kane and the Red Wings closing in on a one-year deal
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Among players who did not receive qualifying offers today, making them free agents: Calen Addison, Joey Anderson, Jake Bean, Jesper Boqvist, Erik Brannstrom, Jacob Bryson, Max Comtois, Dillon Dube, Cal Foote, Noah Gregor, Carter Hart, Boris Katchouk, Parker Kelly, Nils Lundkvist, Michael McLeod, Alex Nylander, Mason Shaw, Sam Steel, Jack Studnicka, Filip Zadina

NHL indicated the four players charged in the Team Canada 2018 case would have to be qualified for their teams to keep their rights. None did so.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Add to this lis:t: Blake Lizotte, Mattias Norlinder and Pierre-Olivier Joseph

No one will touch him till this gets resolved one way or another but if he's acquitted Hart will make a nice free agent killing.

the NTC/NMC and then act like the player is the problem.

Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
I’ve been working on the train and will share a few tidbits in this thread heading into a big Monday…

- The Trouba situation has gotten messy. Makes sense for #NYR to move him and use cap space elsewhere, but you can also understand him not wanting to uproot his family.

Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
- Part of reason he wanted to come to NY in first place was for his wife’s medical career and now they have 6-month-old. Can’t blame him for wanting to stay put, and I don’t think the way he and Goodrow have been handled this offseason is sitting well with some teammates.

Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
- Fences will need to be mended if Trouba is back, but you have to wonder if all this makes him feel unwanted and he ultimately decides to go. Clock is ticking for #NYR, who need cap certainty ASAP as they weigh UFA decisions, especially with Guentzel & Kane likely off the table.

Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
- Steven Stamkos is a guy many have their eye on and I do believe #NYR have interest. Bertuzzi, Marchessault and Toffoli also make some sense, otherwise they could go cheaper at RW and put more focus on C and D. Depth at both positions is a legit concern. Lots of intrigue!

PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
Recently acquired Goalie Akira Schmid did not receive a qualifying offer from #VegasBorn, making him a free agent

is going back to play in Europe.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
#Habs qualified RFAs Justin Barron and Arber Xhekaj.

No QO for Jesse Ylonen, Lias Andersson, Filip Cederqvist, and Mattias Norlinder. @PuckPedia

Not a Drury fan but his handling of Goodrow and Trouba is a big positive.

The goal is to win the Cup. If you wanted to remain best friends forever, you should have won one.

Although I guess that isn't true either since Stamkos and Sergachev are gone from Tampa lol

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Sources say #GoBolts have agreed to terms on a contract with Jake Guentzel after a productive Sunday.

Details have been hard to come by as Tampa has other moving parts, and info might not come out until tomorrow.

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
Sounds like @TBLightning
have progressed and closing in on a Contract Extension with D Hedman. #GoBolts #HockeyX

THE SHOW GOES ON IN HOCKEYTOWN!

The #RedWings have signed Patrick Kane to a one-year contract extension.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing the Panthers did get Sam Reinhart signed to a maximum-term eight-year deal before the midnight deadline
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Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
The Steven Stamkos Sweepstakes are just that, with six or more teams still very much in the running. Amongst the many suitors still pitching to Stamkos and his agent Don Meehan are NSH, ANA, CAR, DET and NJ but it’s a fluid situation and others are involved as well.

Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
I would think Jake Guentzel’s deal with TB will be the richest of the day. Word on the street — that is, not necessarily an official number — is that it will be seven years with an AAV of $9 million or thereabouts.

Carolina would be an interesting destination if he wants to contend for a cup. The Panthers save someone from massively overpaying Reinhart for a ridiculous career year.

was a huge case of SC euphoria/keep the band together-ism.

I definitely would not have bent over backwards for the 8th year.

In comment 16546292 pjcas18 said:

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was a huge case of SC euphoria/keep the band together-ism. I definitely would not have bent over backwards for the 8th year.

Yeah I guess if you're Florida you're doing everything you can to repeat so you justify it. Of course the Guentzel deal is crazy but then again with Igor wanting 12 mill soon enough I guess it will look like a bargain by then.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Stanley Cup champion goaltender Anthony Stolarz will have a decision to make. Three teams, including Florida and Toronto are working on signing the 6’6 tender.

In comment 16546312 pjcas18 said:

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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Stanley Cup champion goaltender Anthony Stolarz will have a decision to make. Three teams, including Florida and Toronto are working on signing the 6’6 tender.

Per Dreger, CHI is the 3rd team.

to CHI

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Bertuzzi’s 4-year deal with Chicago will come with a $5.5M AAV
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Sam Carrick is joining the NY Rangers on a 3-year, $3M total deal.
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Tampa makes the Jake Guentzel deal official: 7 years at $9M AAV
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
#Flames are trying to add up front today. Anthony Mantha is a player they’re targeting