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Daniel Jones bringing the boys together

Pete from Woodstock : 6/26/2024 8:22 am
Jones has gathered Giants teammates for private workouts in North Carolina and fun on Lake Norman.
Time to Gel. Lets go!

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RE: It really is amazing we are still discussing Daniel Jones  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 4:24 pm : link
In comment 16545956 Sean said:
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I really did think Schoen was going to draft a QB. But, to still have people referencing Simms and Manning to prop up Jones is just so ridiculous to me. Jones is entering year 6. It's ridiculous.

He has a very similar career to Mitch Trubisky. The only difference is the playoff win. Good for Jones, he played very well in that playoff win and he earned it. However, Blake Bortles and Case Keenum have playoff wins too. Among others who NYG fans wouldn't consider "franchise QBs". We've got Giant fans critical of Lamar Jackson. It's absurd.

And regarding Trubisky, he was drafted in 2017, only 2 years before Jones. The Bears have already moved on twice at QB since then (Trubisky & Fields).

But, let's still bring up Simms.


People who bring up Simms in an effort to prop up Jones aren't serious people. This is 2024, not 1984.
 
christian : 6/30/2024 7:13 pm : link
I think a valuable set of questions to consider:

1) Put aside the economic considerations, do you believe the Phil Simms scenario has a high, medium, low, of incredibly low chance or happening again?

2) What do you think is higher odds -- a younger and/or more durable quarterback acquired in the draft or by other means wins a championship or Daniel Jones does?

3) What do you think is more likely, Daniel Jones leaves and enjoys great success at Giants' embarrassment or Daniel Jones stays and plays poorly at the Giants' embarrassment?
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ThomasG : 6/30/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16546160 christian said:
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I think a valuable set of questions to consider:

1) Put aside the economic considerations, do you believe the Phil Simms scenario has a high, medium, low, of incredibly low chance or happening again?

2) What do you think is higher odds -- a younger and/or more durable quarterback acquired in the draft or by other means wins a championship or Daniel Jones does?

3) What do you think is more likely, Daniel Jones leaves and enjoys great success at Giants' embarrassment or Daniel Jones stays and plays poorly at the Giants' embarrassment?


With all due respect, #1 and #3 are not valuable to consider. But somehow I think you knew that when you wrote it for the pondering fans above.

#2 could be valuable to consider but, in practice, seems to be a waste of time. Largely because the Giants can't bring themselves to acquire a QB in the draft. Somehow this position on the roster has become either lesser in importance or permanently filled. Maybe both.
 
christian : 6/30/2024 10:15 pm : link
Valuable to consider for those who think Phil Simms is a good example of what's likely to come for Daniel Jones. However few that might be left.
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ThomasG : 6/30/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16546227 christian said:
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Valuable to consider for those who think Phil Simms is a good example of what's likely to come for Daniel Jones. However few that might be left.


Re-arranging my sock drawer would be more valuable.
Has Jones  
uther99 : 7/1/2024 6:55 pm : link
thrown a pass beyond 5 yards?
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