but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
RE: I know the Knicks have had fun summer teams before
but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
RE: RE: I know the Knicks have had fun summer teams before
but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
The best ever was Porzingis. He was like the summer league hall of fame Knick. In 2 weeks we went from like who is this idiot Jackson drafted??? to holy shit he's a future HOF'er!!
RE: RE: I know the Knicks have had fun summer teams before
but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
I went to the Summer League Knox's rookie year. Left there thinking we had the next Jayson Tatum. Bought the jersey and everything. Oops
RE: I know the Knicks have had fun summer teams before
but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
Last season was the first in recent memory where I didn't watch a single minute.
RE: RE: I know the Knicks have had fun summer teams before
but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
Last season was the first in recent memory where I didn't watch a single minute.
I watched a little bit as I was hoping that a sleeper would emerged. However, it was a collection of inconsistent shooters and limited playmakers who busted their butts on defense.
and seemed skeptical the Knicks would meet the price.
Ainge will ask for a first and some team will give it and then he'll ask for a top 50 player and some team will give it and he'll ask for your first born. I'd like every team to take him to the edge and tell him to pound sand leaving him with nothing
Didn't want him...IMHO the Knicks are trading for Richards. Ainge and his desire to dominate every trade isn't worth it.
Now CP the Franchise is saying they're interested in KAT but we have no moveable firsts plus Julius, Mitch & Deuce don't equal his salary. Have to send out more than we take back or be hard capped at the first apron.
The Knicks have to send out more than they get and the Wolves can't take more or aggregate or they get hard capped at the second and that won't work. Must be at least a 3 team
KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Whatever their flaws, they're part of the core for this year. I think we'll make an MLE-level type deal for one of the backups who may be available for trade. Maybe move Deuce or Dadiet (sp?), but not Mitch or Julius.
KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
They're way past the second apron but not hard capped. They can't get hard capped as their books are a mess. If this is real a third team has to get involved
KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
They're way past the second apron but not hard capped. They can't get hard capped as their books are a mess. If this is real a third team has to get involved
Not the Wolves, the Knicks would go into the first apron with this trade and be capped at the second.
but I really respect what Jeremy Cohen does - the long-form stuff on KFS and the real-time reactions on Twitter whenever rumors surface or news breaks. Maybe there is something to the KAT stuff.
but I really respect what Jeremy Cohen does - the long-form stuff on KFS and the real-time reactions on Twitter whenever rumors surface or news breaks. Maybe there is something to the KAT stuff.
He does a real good job dumbing it down. I appreciate it but I agree it can be boring. It seems deals you could do last year can't be done this year.
Thank God the Knicks front office get it
As much as part of me says the KAT stuff is too big
For the Knicks to want to do at this point roster shakeup wise, I do have to say it's a rumor that never seems to go away and it seems to come from sources all over the map.
We all love Deuce but as this roster develops his role gets more and more reduced with every move. I love putting the Richards thing out there. Let's that little shit Ainge know that we have other options and that he can pound sand with his obscene asking prices.
“League sources have reported that The Knicks have interest in moving Miles McBride for Charlottes Center Nick Richards.
Says Knicks are comfortable running Tyler Kolek for 10-12 minutes a night at back-up PG.
Also reports Knicks have multiple irons in the fire.”
Deuce is a better player than Nick Richards. I’d hate to lose Deuce, but I’d want draft capital coming back to the Knicks if I gave up Deuce for Richards.
Jeremy Cohen does a fantastic job with what they would have to do with a 3 way deal including Charlotte.
If the Knicks acquired KAT + Richards and traded out Randle + Mitch + Achiuwa (S&T at $6.5M) then they'd take in $4.4M. That can't happen.
@thecohencidence
Two solutions:
1. Add Deuce, OR
2. Overpay Precious ($11M in Y1)
I don't think a double S&T w/Precious + Jeffries is possible lol
I attached the link below where you can see that once they fill in Kolek and Hakpuri, a trade bringing back 4.4M would take them past the first apron and hard cap them at the second, which is what I've been explaining all along lol. That would not only be totally fine, but also still leave them some wiggle room to fill out the roster with the space before they hit the second apron. Link - ( New Window )
but at the same time and i know injuries but how many minutes is deuce getting?
Divo and Hart are going to be your main guards off the bench, Mikal is going to play the 2/3, OG is going to play the 3 and 4, Randle the 4 and maybe some 5..
Deuce is going to get 10 maybe 15 minutes a night? Now do i want to trade him for Nick Richards? no but at the same time if a center comes available and they want deuce i probably wouldnt hesitate
if they are going to get him and play him at the 5, i am in, i dont want him at the 4..
KAT at the 5 matches Boston perfectly, as presently constituted to me to beat Boston Randle will have to play the 5
I would think it would be the opposite because having a defensive C like Gobert masks a lot of KAT's defensive deficiencies. Having KAT play next to Robinson would be similar.
@NYPost_Berman
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
@NYPost_Berman
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
0% chance the Rockets trade Sengun for anything the Knicks can realistically offer. He's a core piece for them and a budding star
@NYPost_Berman
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
Berman just loves to create chaos. Am I really supposed to believe he's working sources as a part-time writer for the Palm Beach Post?
@NBA_NewYork
Dmytro Skapintsev has joined the summer Knicks, according his IG & his agent's
7'1" Skapintsev played for the summer, Westchester & New York Knicks last year
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
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but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
The best ever was Porzingis. He was like the summer league hall of fame Knick. In 2 weeks we went from like who is this idiot Jackson drafted??? to holy shit he's a future HOF'er!!
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but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
The Kevin Knox or the Michael Sweetney/Maciej Lampe years were clearly more bitable.
I went to the Summer League Knox's rookie year. Left there thinking we had the next Jayson Tatum. Bought the jersey and everything. Oops
Last season was the first in recent memory where I didn't watch a single minute.
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but this year's should be the most fun one to watch in awhile. Dadier, Kolek, Hukporti, McCullar jr along with Rokas will definitely be something to sink our teeth into. Especially after last year's snooze fest of a team.
Last season was the first in recent memory where I didn't watch a single minute.
I watched a little bit as I was hoping that a sleeper would emerged. However, it was a collection of inconsistent shooters and limited playmakers who busted their butts on defense.
Ainge will ask for a first and some team will give it and then he'll ask for a top 50 player and some team will give it and he'll ask for your first born. I'd like every team to take him to the edge and tell him to pound sand leaving him with nothing
If ever a trade should have been vetoed by the commissioner, it was that one and not the Chris Paul trade.
If Brunson and or Julia extends at a lower number then Leon, Wes & Aller should be canonized
Didn't want him...IMHO the Knicks are trading for Richards. Ainge and his desire to dominate every trade isn't worth it.
Now CP the Franchise is saying they're interested in KAT but we have no moveable firsts plus Julius, Mitch & Deuce don't equal his salary. Have to send out more than we take back or be hard capped at the first apron.
Wow that feels like ancient history now.
What does that even look like at this point? Randle + Mitch to a third team for assets that go to Minnesota?
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
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KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
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In comment 16550461 Jon In NYC said:
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KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
They're way past the second apron but not hard capped. They can't get hard capped as their books are a mess. If this is real a third team has to get involved
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In comment 16550487 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 16550461 Jon In NYC said:
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KAT to Knicks
Randle, Ivey to Wolves
Mitch to Pistons
Works under the cap, not sure if KAT is worth Randle and Mitch, but you can go 5 out with Brunson-DVO-Bridges-OG-KAT and holy shit what an offensive juggernaut with the two best wing defenders in the league?
Just have to hope KAT stays healthy and holds up defensively. Need a backup 5 even more now too.
I just don't see any other combination of players to trade besides Mitch and Julius
Knicks need to send out more. KAT is 49 while Julius and Mitch are 43/44. Still would need a back up 5
I believe that trade would send them past the first apron into the second apron and hardcap them there, which I think is okay.
But yeah backup 5 is a big issue. They might be able to use a trade player exception and a pick for Richards?
They're way past the second apron but not hard capped. They can't get hard capped as their books are a mess. If this is real a third team has to get involved
Not the Wolves, the Knicks would go into the first apron with this trade and be capped at the second.
If the Knicks acquired KAT + Richards and traded out Randle + Mitch + Achiuwa (S&T at $6.5M) then they'd take in $4.4M. That can't happen.
@thecohencidence
Two solutions:
1. Add Deuce, OR
2. Overpay Precious ($11M in Y1)
I don't think a double S&T w/Precious + Jeffries is possible lol
Sending Deuce to Minnesota in the previously described deal would save the Knicks ($262K) and the Wolves ($15.5M). So it'd work.
Not advocating, just reporting the math!
He does a real good job dumbing it down. I appreciate it but I agree it can be boring. It seems deals you could do last year can't be done this year.
Thank God the Knicks front office get it
Says Knicks are comfortable running Tyler Kolek for 10-12 minutes a night at back-up PG.
Also reports Knicks have multiple irons in the fire.”
Says Knicks are comfortable running Tyler Kolek for 10-12 minutes a night at back-up PG.
Also reports Knicks have multiple irons in the fire.”
Deuce is a better player than Nick Richards. I’d hate to lose Deuce, but I’d want draft capital coming back to the Knicks if I gave up Deuce for Richards.
If the Knicks acquired KAT + Richards and traded out Randle + Mitch + Achiuwa (S&T at $6.5M) then they'd take in $4.4M. That can't happen.
@thecohencidence
Two solutions:
1. Add Deuce, OR
2. Overpay Precious ($11M in Y1)
I don't think a double S&T w/Precious + Jeffries is possible lol
I attached the link below where you can see that once they fill in Kolek and Hakpuri, a trade bringing back 4.4M would take them past the first apron and hard cap them at the second, which is what I've been explaining all along lol. That would not only be totally fine, but also still leave them some wiggle room to fill out the roster with the space before they hit the second apron.
Link - ( New Window )
I actually think at this point they wouldn't even trade him for Kessler.
I actually think at this point they wouldn't even trade him for Kessler.
Very hard pass Deuce for Richards for me
Divo and Hart are going to be your main guards off the bench, Mikal is going to play the 2/3, OG is going to play the 3 and 4, Randle the 4 and maybe some 5..
Deuce is going to get 10 maybe 15 minutes a night? Now do i want to trade him for Nick Richards? no but at the same time if a center comes available and they want deuce i probably wouldnt hesitate
KAT at the 5 matches Boston perfectly, as presently constituted to me to beat Boston Randle will have to play the 5
KAT at the 5 matches Boston perfectly, as presently constituted to me to beat Boston Randle will have to play the 5
I would think it would be the opposite because having a defensive C like Gobert masks a lot of KAT's defensive deficiencies. Having KAT play next to Robinson would be similar.
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
0% chance the Rockets trade Sengun for anything the Knicks can realistically offer. He's a core piece for them and a budding star
Berman is snarky when it comes to the Knicks even in success, he is bitter and Bondy has carried it on.
Leon Rose was in 1st row of presser yesterday with Mikal's mother. Didn't talk, but he's still cooking, wants to make big center move after Philly's 2 additions. Heard Houston's Sengun has been on radar, even Detroit's Jalen Duren. And that was before Pistons signed Paul Reed.
Berman just loves to create chaos. Am I really supposed to believe he's working sources as a part-time writer for the Palm Beach Post?