if they are going to get him and play him at the 5, i am in, i dont want him at the 4..
KAT at the 5 matches Boston perfectly, as presently constituted to me to beat Boston Randle will have to play the 5
I would think it would be the opposite because having a defensive C like Gobert masks a lot of KAT's defensive deficiencies. Having KAT play next to Robinson would be similar.
Id rsther him at the 5 because of the perkmiter defense the Knicks are going to have
wouldn't be interested in a Randle for Sengun package?
They seem pretty committed to trying to win now.
Yes. 100 sure. C'mon. He's 21 years old and just put up 21.0 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists on 54% shooting with a 22.0 PER, .163 WS/48 in his age 21 season. He's a "win now" player, not some project.
Randle put up 24, 9 and 5 on 47% from the field, 18.9 PER, .113 WS/48 and is 8 years older. The Rockets would hang up the phone.
Pistons get an upgrade at center and their pick back
Wolves save 18 mil off the cap and get a pick in exchange for a downgrade at PF
Knicks fill the center hole and backup center hole in one swoop.
Those two first round picks have very little value because they more than likely won't convey. The Pistons also aren't paying Precious Achiuwa 9 million dollars a year.
there are a BIT of Sengun trade rumors out there that I linked below.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now. Link - ( New Window )
there are a BIT of Sengun trade rumors out there that I linked below.
Everything on that link seems like speculation (pretty much like BBI :-) ). Most of the fans seem to think they'd be crazy to trade Sengun. I also wonder about this win-now thing with Houston - they were a .500 team last year.
Anyway - I don't think we're trading Randle and Mitch. I think there will be a much smaller move to acquire a backup C.
there are a BIT of Sengun trade rumors out there that I linked below.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now. Link - ( New Window )
The linked video suggests they may have to include him for a "superstar", not looking for a Randle debate but that's clearly not the kind of player people are suggesting when they say the Rockets are looking to "swing big". They are talking about players like Giannis
RE: RE: RE: Yeah Sengin would cost more than Bridges
"The implications of the Rockets landing the Suns' picks? Houston wants to trade for Kevin Durant and that becomes far easier if they can return the Suns' picks that they gave up in the Durant deal to the Nets," Wojnarowski wrote. "Suns have said they're keeping Durant for now, but that could change next season. But now, Houston has the picks to make the Suns whole again."
Wojnarowski then mentioned a different trade scenario involving the Suns and Rockets.
"Rockets possess a pick swap with Suns in 2025, Suns' pick in 2027 and could end up with the Suns' pick in 2029 based on contingencies," Wojnarowski wrote. "If the Suns are ever faced with breaking up team, Houston's also in prime position to pursue a younger Devin Booker. For now, Phoenix is trying to win."
With the Suns trying to win, though, Houston may not wait around. Either way, Wojnarowski says they'll be ultra-aggressive in adding a superstar this offseason.
"As intrigued as the Rockets have been about Durant, they're determined to use the Suns picks to be aggressive on deals elsewhere now, sources tell ESPN," Wojnarowski wrote. "Phoenix has made it clear that they want to run it back with this group, and Houston is seeking a major upgrade now."
Sengun for Randle/Mitch just doesn't make much sense other than Berman speaking out of his ass. The Rockets were reportedly in talks for Bridges (pick heavy package). The Ringer just 2 weeks ago ranked Sengun the #44 player in the NBA, Randle #45. One is nearly a decade younger. Like I said, Sengun goes 1-1 if he was in this years draft.
"Offensive wunderkind with creative flair and defensive shortcomings.
Feel for the Game
Ridiculous Upside
Passing Virtuoso
Analysis
In a league where size, power, creativity, and craft are hard to find in any one player, Sengun checks every box. Defensive warts notwithstanding, here stands a near-7-foot tall magician whose aesthetic can only be compared to a certain Serbian big man who doubles as the best player alive. This doesn’t mean Sengun will ever earn the same hardware Nikola Jokic has, but he can pass like a point guard, bludgeon opponents in the post, and provide insatiable effort on the glass.
Now on a team that actually has veteran leadership, lofty goals, and a reliable offensive strategy, Sengun has optimized his unusual gifts. Like Jokic, his vision inverts the court while stimulating plenty of movement to keep opponents on their heels. Also like Jokic, Sengun’s defense can be exploited when he’s not surrounded by pieces who execute an appropriate scheme. The good news for Houston is that Sengun bought in on that end, with better effort and awareness that helped him become a finalist for Most Improved Player. An ankle injury ultimately ended his season a month early, and Jalen Green made his own strides on both sides of the ball. But whatever Houston’s next phase may be, Sengun proved he can be the focal point of a team." Link - ( New Window )
Boston's Derrick White is replacing Kawhi Leonard on the Olympic Squad. I'm sure that Kawhi was the top choice in the drop out betting pool but I'm bit surprised that no one else has joined him. Link - ( New Window )
there are a BIT of Sengun trade rumors out there that I linked below.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now. Link - ( New Window )
The linked video suggests they may have to include him for a "superstar", not looking for a Randle debate but that's clearly not the kind of player people are suggesting when they say the Rockets are looking to "swing big". They are talking about players like Giannis
Maybe it is wishful thinking but it definitely would be a little nutty for Marc Berman, who has covered the team for 30 years? to just throw out random ass names. I know he's a shit stirrer but he didn't used to just fabricate things like Robert Randolph.
I don't see contract details as yet. Anyway, without Paul George, I don't see them going anywhere but like the Warriors, Suns, and others, they can't rebuild just yet. Link - ( New Window )
*only* Berman reports something, I call it BS. IF somebody like Katz followed up with similar info then of course I'd buy it. Sengun is a big enough name where Woj and Co. would be talking about this. What was the last story Berman broke? None I can remember since he retired.
Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
RE: Just listened to CP’s video for the first time…
Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
I saw a couple fantasy basketball guys comment on. But Duren is neither a spacer or a defender. Plus the Pistons just got Paul Reed and are very pot committed on Isiah Stewart.
Deuce and the Pistons pick for Duren? Deuce is honestly probably as strong a fit next to cade as it gets as a 3&D player with point guard size. Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Just listened to CP’s video for the first time…
Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
Why trade for a fourth Villanova player to split up trading Randle, DDV and/or Hart for Towns who isn't a center or a PF...he is a SF in 7 footers body..this is not what this team needs did anyone watch that jan run last year...more offense is not whats needed...We don't need more 3 point shooting in starting lineup...
RE: RE: RE: Just listened to CP’s video for the first time…
Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
Why trade for a fourth Villanova player to split up trading Randle, DDV and/or Hart for Towns who isn't a center or a PF...he is a SF in 7 footers body..this is not what this team needs did anyone watch that jan run last year...more offense is not whats needed...We don't need more 3 point shooting in starting lineup...
to get the salaries to match you would have to ship out Randle, Mitch ,DDv and maybe Duece....That guts the team depth...Thibs is not depend on rookies to fill the void...
Begley confirms the Knicks have talked to Houston about Sengun.
Centers keep going off the board, they have precious sitting there and they need to fill 2 spots
One thing about this front office is everything is done with a purpose. You can draw lives from a player signing that makes no sense but was made with a future deal in mind. The three things mentioned Precious, Kevin McCullar Jr. and roster mission all have to get you thinking.
Also Knicks related is Kessler playing in summer league like he's being showcased
seemed to politely suggest the Sengun stuff isn't true.
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anything new on Duran or Sengun to the #Knicks rumors I keep hearing about?
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How are Hukporti and McCullar on the SL roster if they're not signed yet? I know KFS mentioned it this week but I'm not sure they actually knew the answer (or if they did, I missed it).
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if they are going to get him and play him at the 5, i am in, i dont want him at the 4..
KAT at the 5 matches Boston perfectly, as presently constituted to me to beat Boston Randle will have to play the 5
I would think it would be the opposite because having a defensive C like Gobert masks a lot of KAT's defensive deficiencies. Having KAT play next to Robinson would be similar.
Id rsther him at the 5 because of the perkmiter defense the Knicks are going to have
They seem pretty committed to trying to win now.
They seem pretty committed to trying to win now.
Yes. 100 sure. C'mon. He's 21 years old and just put up 21.0 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists on 54% shooting with a 22.0 PER, .163 WS/48 in his age 21 season. He's a "win now" player, not some project.
Randle put up 24, 9 and 5 on 47% from the field, 18.9 PER, .113 WS/48 and is 8 years older. The Rockets would hang up the phone.
Randle, Robinson and Deuce does not even get it done, unless Houston has a bad contract to send back that I can't think of.
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Randle, Robinson and Deuce does not even get it done, unless Houston has a bad contract to send back that I can't think of.
Pistons get an upgrade at center and their pick back
Wolves save 18 mil off the cap and get a pick in exchange for a downgrade at PF
Knicks fill the center hole and backup center hole in one swoop.
Pistons get an upgrade at center and their pick back
Wolves save 18 mil off the cap and get a pick in exchange for a downgrade at PF
Knicks fill the center hole and backup center hole in one swoop.
Those two first round picks have very little value because they more than likely won't convey. The Pistons also aren't paying Precious Achiuwa 9 million dollars a year.
Pistons get an upgrade at center and their pick back
Wolves save 18 mil off the cap and get a pick in exchange for a downgrade at PF
Knicks fill the center hole and backup center hole in one swoop.
Can't trade both 1st Round picks next year. Only one can go because of the Stepien Rule.
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Duran is more realistic. Weren't the Knicks linked to him when he was drafted before they traded the pick to clear space for Brunson?
I think you mean Mcbride not Bridges...lol
No I meant the package to get him would be larger than it cost to get Bridges.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now.
Link - ( New Window )
Everything on that link seems like speculation (pretty much like BBI :-) ). Most of the fans seem to think they'd be crazy to trade Sengun. I also wonder about this win-now thing with Houston - they were a .500 team last year.
Anyway - I don't think we're trading Randle and Mitch. I think there will be a much smaller move to acquire a backup C.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now. Link - ( New Window )
The linked video suggests they may have to include him for a "superstar", not looking for a Randle debate but that's clearly not the kind of player people are suggesting when they say the Rockets are looking to "swing big". They are talking about players like Giannis
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Duran is more realistic. Weren't the Knicks linked to him when he was drafted before they traded the pick to clear space for Brunson?
I think you mean Mcbride not Bridges...lol
No I meant the package to get him would be larger than it cost to get Bridges.
Wojnarowski then mentioned a different trade scenario involving the Suns and Rockets.
"Rockets possess a pick swap with Suns in 2025, Suns' pick in 2027 and could end up with the Suns' pick in 2029 based on contingencies," Wojnarowski wrote. "If the Suns are ever faced with breaking up team, Houston's also in prime position to pursue a younger Devin Booker. For now, Phoenix is trying to win."
With the Suns trying to win, though, Houston may not wait around. Either way, Wojnarowski says they'll be ultra-aggressive in adding a superstar this offseason.
"As intrigued as the Rockets have been about Durant, they're determined to use the Suns picks to be aggressive on deals elsewhere now, sources tell ESPN," Wojnarowski wrote. "Phoenix has made it clear that they want to run it back with this group, and Houston is seeking a major upgrade now."
Sengun for Randle/Mitch just doesn't make much sense other than Berman speaking out of his ass. The Rockets were reportedly in talks for Bridges (pick heavy package). The Ringer just 2 weeks ago ranked Sengun the #44 player in the NBA, Randle #45. One is nearly a decade younger. Like I said, Sengun goes 1-1 if he was in this years draft.
"Offensive wunderkind with creative flair and defensive shortcomings.
Feel for the Game
Ridiculous Upside
Passing Virtuoso
Analysis
In a league where size, power, creativity, and craft are hard to find in any one player, Sengun checks every box. Defensive warts notwithstanding, here stands a near-7-foot tall magician whose aesthetic can only be compared to a certain Serbian big man who doubles as the best player alive. This doesn’t mean Sengun will ever earn the same hardware Nikola Jokic has, but he can pass like a point guard, bludgeon opponents in the post, and provide insatiable effort on the glass.
Now on a team that actually has veteran leadership, lofty goals, and a reliable offensive strategy, Sengun has optimized his unusual gifts. Like Jokic, his vision inverts the court while stimulating plenty of movement to keep opponents on their heels. Also like Jokic, Sengun’s defense can be exploited when he’s not surrounded by pieces who execute an appropriate scheme. The good news for Houston is that Sengun bought in on that end, with better effort and awareness that helped him become a finalist for Most Improved Player. An ankle injury ultimately ended his season a month early, and Jalen Green made his own strides on both sides of the ball. But whatever Houston’s next phase may be, Sengun proved he can be the focal point of a team."
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there are a BIT of Sengun trade rumors out there that I linked below.
They also went on a 10 game win streak without him to end the year.
I don't think it's the absolute most batshit insane thing ever to suggest that a package of Randle and Mitch for Sengun and fillers would be interesting to them, especially because we know the directive has been to win now. Link - ( New Window )
The linked video suggests they may have to include him for a "superstar", not looking for a Randle debate but that's clearly not the kind of player people are suggesting when they say the Rockets are looking to "swing big". They are talking about players like Giannis
Maybe it is wishful thinking but it definitely would be a little nutty for Marc Berman, who has covered the team for 30 years? to just throw out random ass names. I know he's a shit stirrer but he didn't used to just fabricate things like Robert Randolph.
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Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
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17/14.4(!)/3 assists, .7 steals, 1 block
You hope the defense can improve but the athleticism and offensive upside is definitely there.
80% FT shooter too.
Deuce and the Pistons pick for Duren? Deuce is honestly probably as strong a fit next to cade as it gets as a 3&D player with point guard size.
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Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
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Didn’t seem like he knew the Knicks can’t offer Randle an extension til August, so his “why haven’t the Knicks extended Randle yet?” argument fell flat.
Otherwise, he was adamant that the Knicks like Randle, but they like Towns better. He added they want to spread the court more for Brunson and match up better with Boston’s five-out approach.
Pulling off huge trades for OG, Bridges and Towns within a few months seems unfathomable, but these are the guys we knew they’d be after from the start. Brunson as well. They made a huge run at Donovan Mitchell, too. Booker’s the only one who’s been completely unattainable to this point.
I love CP and KFTV, but the smarter podcast---albeit dryer---is Knicks Film School, especially when Macri and Cohen talk shop and the business of the league.
Why trade for a fourth Villanova player to split up trading Randle, DDV and/or Hart for Towns who isn't a center or a PF...he is a SF in 7 footers body..this is not what this team needs did anyone watch that jan run last year...more offense is not whats needed...We don't need more 3 point shooting in starting lineup...
Under the old regime I would have thought it was because they're inept. Now I think they're up to something.
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who havnt submitted their final Las Vegas summer league roster
Under the old regime I would have thought it was because they're inept. Now I think they're up to something.
Kevin Maccular still not signed either
One thing about this front office is everything is done with a purpose. You can draw lives from a player signing that makes no sense but was made with a future deal in mind. The three things mentioned Precious, Kevin McCullar Jr. and roster mission all have to get you thinking.
Also Knicks related is Kessler playing in summer league like he's being showcased
I've never had a guy play for the US in any sport that I couldn't root for. He's the first.
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anything new on Duran or Sengun to the #Knicks rumors I keep hearing about?
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What's the deal with Jimmy Butler? Is he just going to stay on the Heat? Felt like he was out the door.
What's the deal with Jimmy Butler? Is he just going to stay on the Heat? Felt like he was out the door.
Shams reported he doesn't want to be traded and that Riley is focused on trying to win this upcoming season.
Not that it matters much, but any guess at the starting 5 out of that group? The four drafted rookies plus Rokas?
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Not that it matters much, but any guess at the starting 5 out of that group? The four drafted rookies plus Rokas?
Idk.. its a role of Dice
I couldn't resist
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Not that it matters much, but any guess at the starting 5 out of that group? The four drafted rookies plus Rokas?
Idk.. its a role of Dice
lol nice one
How are Hukporti and McCullar on the SL roster if they're not signed yet? I know KFS mentioned it this week but I'm not sure they actually knew the answer (or if they did, I missed it).