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Neckbone1333 : 6/30/2024 8:50 am
Praying IHart takes less and rewards Leon for the work he has done.
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RE: They’re still confident in Ihart coming back  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16546034 ajr2456 said:
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There was a Twitter scenario thrown around that they can do a 2 year deal with an option but the CBA doesn’t allow that.

They could give him 2 years guaranteed and he can opt out in year 3 at 28 and sign a bigger contract then. That could be the best way to maximize his earnings if he believes that he may not thrive quite as much in a new system vs the way he has since coming to the Knicks
RE: RE: They’re still confident in Ihart coming back  
Neckbone1333 : 6/30/2024 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16546037 Strahan91 said:
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There was a Twitter scenario thrown around that they can do a 2 year deal with an option but the CBA doesn’t allow that.


They could give him 2 years guaranteed and he can opt out in year 3 at 28 and sign a bigger contract then. That could be the best way to maximize his earnings if he believes that he may not thrive quite as much in a new system vs the way he has since coming to the Knicks


Thanks for the update!
RE: They’re still confident in Ihart coming back  
Neckbone1333 : 6/30/2024 3:44 pm : link
In comment 16546034 ajr2456 said:
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There was a Twitter scenario thrown around that they can do a 2 year deal with an option but the CBA doesn’t allow that.


Thank you!
Begley sounds very pessimistic on Hartenstein fwiw. On a positive  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 3:45 pm : link
note, it sounds like Deuce won't be a part of the Mikal deal
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RE: RE: They’re still confident in Ihart coming back  
ajr2456 : 6/30/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16546037 Strahan91 said:
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There was a Twitter scenario thrown around that they can do a 2 year deal with an option but the CBA doesn’t allow that.


They could give him 2 years guaranteed and he can opt out in year 3 at 28 and sign a bigger contract then. That could be the best way to maximize his earnings if he believes that he may not thrive quite as much in a new system vs the way he has since coming to the Knicks


Yea but I don’t know if he’s willing to sacrifice for two years
RE: RE: RE: They’re still confident in Ihart coming back  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 3:47 pm : link
In comment 16546044 ajr2456 said:
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There was a Twitter scenario thrown around that they can do a 2 year deal with an option but the CBA doesn’t allow that.


They could give him 2 years guaranteed and he can opt out in year 3 at 28 and sign a bigger contract then. That could be the best way to maximize his earnings if he believes that he may not thrive quite as much in a new system vs the way he has since coming to the Knicks



Yea but I don’t know if he’s willing to sacrifice for two years

I won't blame him if he walks for more money. He deserves it and this is his chance to cash in
sounding more and more like PG3 going to Philly  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2024 4:07 pm : link
wonder if Harden ends up really considering LAL and lebrons offer to take less? would think LAL could move DLo's expiring if they want to, but not sure why he would have opted in without any commitment that they werent going to trade him.

Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
B/R Sources: There’s growing optimism the Philadelphia 76ers will land Paul George in free agency.
Its almost like Dallas didnt watch the Finals  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2024 4:07 pm : link
In what world does Klay Thompson fit next to Kyrie and Luka?
Chris Haynes says “growing optimism”  
bceagle05 : 6/30/2024 4:07 pm : link
about Philly landing PG. Maybe just pressuring LAC but I expect him to land in Philly at this point.
RE: Chris Haynes says “growing optimism”  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 4:11 pm : link
In comment 16546055 bceagle05 said:
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about Philly landing PG. Maybe just pressuring LAC but I expect him to land in Philly at this point.

I’m not saying giving George a 4 year max is a good idea but what the hell are the Clippers going to do to stay competitive without him? They barely have any tradeable assets and the roster just isn’t that good right now. Is it really worth LAC opening up their new arena with a team that will be in the play-in mix?
RE: RE: Chris Haynes says “growing optimism”  
ajr2456 : 6/30/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16546058 Strahan91 said:
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about Philly landing PG. Maybe just pressuring LAC but I expect him to land in Philly at this point.


I’m not saying giving George a 4 year max is a good idea but what the hell are the Clippers going to do to stay competitive without him? They barely have any tradeable assets and the roster just isn’t that good right now. Is it really worth LAC opening up their new arena with a team that will be in the play-in mix?



It’s definitely weird. Barring major injury I think 3 of the 4 years of that deal will be productive enough to justify it
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 4:21 pm : link
If PG leaves, that Kawhi-PG era in LAC...what a flop. I have some Clipper fans in my life & man...that's a tough beat.
RE: RE: RE: Chris Haynes says “growing optimism”  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/30/2024 4:25 pm : link
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It’s definitely weird. Barring major injury I think 3 of the 4 years of that deal will be productive enough to justify it


The Clips letting him walk over a year would be madness. However, he missed a ton of time two years ago and missed the end of the season last year. The Sixers and Warriors were desperate, but I’m glad the Knicks went the way they ultimately did.
A 34 year old PG  
Carl in CT : 6/30/2024 4:26 pm : link
Doesn’t opt out of $48.7m 1 year deal unless he has a mega deal in place
Of course i will be at Kevin Hart tonight  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2024 4:36 pm : link
and usually at comedy shows they lock your phone in a pouch
Second apron comes in lower then expected  
KevinBBWC : 6/30/2024 5:00 pm : link
Kristian Winfield
@Krisplashed
The second apron was projected to be $189.5 million. The actual apron is coming in at $188.9M.

The Knicks will likely be hard-capped at the second apron this season. They now have ~$600k less in space to play with to build out a roster.
Knicks likely knew that  
ajr2456 : 6/30/2024 5:11 pm : link
When they made the trade
I love how these rule changes seem to always happen  
Mike in NJ : 6/30/2024 5:12 pm : link
At the worst possible time for the Knicks. Finally ready to contend and have to jump through all kinds of hoops with these apron restrictions.

Reminds me of the year Zion was in the draft, and the Knicks had the worst record in the league, but of course it coincides with when the league smooths out the lottery odds and we end up getting dropping to third.
Begley mentions Nick Richards as a potential option  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 5:25 pm : link
if Hartenstein walks. He'd be a great get/fit but I'm not sure what the Knicks could offer Charlotte that would entice them. Maybe 2 2nd rounders? Not sure if that'd be enough tbh
Has to be a future Laker  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 5:43 pm : link
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Golden State is waiving Chris Paul, sources tell
@TheAthletic
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Anakim : 6/30/2024 5:49 pm : link
Andrew Schlecht
@AndrewKSchlecht

It wouldn’t surprise me to see OKC get Hartenstein on a 3 year deal with a team option at the end

2 years also makes a lot of sense

20-25 million annually would be the ball park for Hartenstein
Harden back to LAC 2 yrs $70M  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 5:50 pm : link
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RE: RE: Obi gets 4yrs/$60 million from Indy.  
mfsd : 6/30/2024 6:27 pm : link
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All the Knicks are getting paid.



Very happy for Obi.


Me too, I’ve mentioned here before one of my best college buddies is Obi’s cousin. As a Knicks fan, I can see he wasn’t a great fit for Thibs, but I’ve heard stories of his excellent work ethic and will always root for him. Except for when he plays us
IHart  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 6:30 pm : link
Meeting with OKC in Oregon
Hartenstein is meeting with OKC. Seems like he’s  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2024 6:30 pm : link
a goner
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Anakim : 6/30/2024 6:31 pm : link
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
With cap space teams Orlando focused on wing free agents and Utah focused on current roster decisions, and Knicks working to un-hardcap — sources say the OKC Thunder are in Eugene, Oregon, set to meet with Isaiah Hartenstein.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 6:35 pm : link
I will have zero memories of CP3 as a Warrior.
There's not a chance in hell IHart is turning down 4/70  
Stu11 : 6/30/2024 6:39 pm : link
From the Knicks to sign for 2/45 from OKC. His model wife will have his head in a basket.
RE: Harden back to LAC 2 yrs $70M  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 6:56 pm : link
In comment 16546108 Strahan91 said:
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Generations from now, people will look @ Harden's stats & say, 'Wow. All time great.'

A complete zero in the spring.
For whomever sign Klay  
Stu11 : 6/30/2024 6:58 pm : link
Does the contract include money for the fork sticking out of his back too?
RE: For whomever sign Klay  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16546145 Stu11 said:
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Does the contract include money for the fork sticking out of his back too?


I think he ends up with Dallas.
RE: RE: For whomever sign Klay  
Stu11 : 6/30/2024 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16546146 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Does the contract include money for the fork sticking out of his back too?



I think he ends up with Dallas.

Keep an eye on him to the Lakers too
New tampering rules kinda killed Fa  
ajr2456 : 6/30/2024 7:01 pm : link
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NBA Network says Clippers looking to trade Westbrook  
Stu11 : 6/30/2024 7:02 pm : link
And that the Nuggets are interested. Makes sense. Reggie Jackson is gone and KCP will be next.
Andre Drummond signs with Philadelphia  
Anakim : 6/30/2024 7:06 pm : link
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Free agent center Andre Drummond plans to sign a two-year, $10-plus million deal with the Philadelphia 76ers.
RE: RE: Harden back to LAC 2 yrs $70M  
Mike from SI : 6/30/2024 7:07 pm : link
In comment 16546143 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Generations from now, people will look @ Harden's stats & say, 'Wow. All time great.'

A complete zero in the spring.


Even moreso for Westbrook, in my opinion. But the criticism of Harden is also fair.
Mavs had no scoring outside  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/30/2024 7:13 pm : link
Luka/Kyrie. Luka is also ridiculously ball dominant so a guy like Klay who can score 15-20 on elite off-ball outside shooting is a nice fit in theory.

Klay is no longer a two way player or 2nd option. He’s “washed” in terms of being that guy. But he’s still as good a volume 3pt shooter as any in the league besides Curry and his size means he won’t be a cone on defense like smaller older guys. I could see him being a good rotation piece on Dallas/LA where he just needs to score 15 or so off-ball and shoot at his usual levels.

Embiid/PG feels like a duo where we all kind of know what will happen. Maybe Maxey levels up again but the odds of all 3 of those guys being healthy for a playoff run feels like 25% chance and even that might be pushing it.
Mike from SI.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 7:13 pm : link
Oh, it applies to Westbrook too.

I've never been a fan of either.
CP3 is a bit overbearing  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/30/2024 7:20 pm : link
But he’s also insanely smart and seen a lot. A vet PG like him and Pop as the HC would give Wemby so much mentorship as he develops. Hope CP3 goes to the Spurs but I’m thinking he’ll try to win a ring somewhere else.
KCP to Orlando  
Anakim : 6/30/2024 7:24 pm : link
Jeff Zillgitt
@JeffZillgitt

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope leaving the Denver Nuggets and headed to the Orlando Magic on a three-year deal, I’m told.
Good for KCP  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/30/2024 7:28 pm : link
Him and Jrue are the only 2x champs in this decade which is pretty crazy. Winning role player. Denver looking shaky.

Orlando looking solid. It all depends on how good Paolo becomes.
I'm sure KCP got 20+mill per  
Stu11 : 6/30/2024 7:33 pm : link
So say goodbye to them as a destination for IHart. It's probably OKC or the Knicks.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/30/2024 7:34 pm : link
Orlando is going to be a threat in the East.
RE: RE: RE: Obi gets 4yrs/$60 million from Indy.  
Optimus-NY : 6/30/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16546123 mfsd said:
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All the Knicks are getting paid.



Very happy for Obi.



Me too, I’ve mentioned here before one of my best college buddies is Obi’s cousin. As a Knicks fan, I can see he wasn’t a great fit for Thibs, but I’ve heard stories of his excellent work ethic and will always root for him. Except for when he plays us


I've always thought that Obi was a cool dude. Good to hear it. Wish him nothing but the best, except against the Knicks.
Clippers  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 8:28 pm : link
Confirm Paul is leaving
Sixers  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 8:28 pm : link
Sign Eric Gordon
Paul  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 8:31 pm : link
Joining Wemby
PG13  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 8:33 pm : link
May announce he’s joining the Sixers as soon as tonight
Woj  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2024 8:43 pm : link
Free agent center Jonas Valanciunas has agreed on a three-year, $30 million deal with the Washington Wizards, sources tell ESPN.
love cp3 choosing to go to SAS  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2024 8:44 pm : link
he should be good for that group.

KCP seems like a bit of a misfire for Orlando. dont hate it but dont see it moving the needle.
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