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Neckbone1333 : 6/30/2024 8:50 am
Praying IHart takes less and rewards Leon for the work he has done.
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Hopefully Paul George gets old quick.  
bceagle05 : 6/30/2024 8:46 pm : link
Great fit in Philly.
Ever once believed that “Philly confirms they are moving  
CooperDash : 6/30/2024 9:10 pm : link
on from PG” report. If anything, it just made me believe they were getting him more.
RE: Woj  
Jon In NYC : 6/30/2024 9:25 pm : link
In comment 16546209 DanMetroMan said:
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Free agent center Jonas Valanciunas has agreed on a three-year, $30 million deal with the Washington Wizards, sources tell ESPN.


That feels pretty reasonable for Jonas. Interesting that even with salaries going up he got less than Mitch.

Goga and Nick Richards are fine, but with iHart leaving it's going to be tough to view this as anything less than a suboptimal C rotation.
Not getting all the Klay hype.  
bceagle05 : 6/30/2024 10:24 pm : link
Lebron called him right at 6pm to recruit? Dude has fallen off a cliff.
Would it be crazy to try and get  
Doubledeuce22 : 6/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
Lauri Markkanen? Trade Mitch and picks for him then go for a defensive 5 to backup Lauri.
RE: Not getting all the Klay hype.  
Mike from SI : 6/30/2024 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16546230 bceagle05 said:
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Lebron called him right at 6pm to recruit? Dude has fallen off a cliff.


As strictly a spot shooter, he should be helpful for LBJ on offense. Not sure if his defense is still there, but he used to be very good at it.
 
christian : 6/30/2024 10:53 pm : link
The game of musical chairs for the 2014 All NBA team keeps chugging. The only thing missing is the annual Westbrook trade that should be coming up before noon.
RE: Would it be crazy to try and get  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/30/2024 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16546233 Doubledeuce22 said:
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Lauri Markkanen? Trade Mitch and picks for him then go for a defensive 5 to backup Lauri.


Ainge doesn’t want Robinson and the Knicks already traded the picks he would want in return.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/1/2024 6:09 am : link
Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.
RE: ...  
robbieballs2003 : 7/1/2024 6:25 am : link
In comment 16546256 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.


Yep. It was posted last night.

We have to imagine that every minute that goes by, the odds of IHart coming back to the Knicks increases. These teams know the situation the Knicks are in. If OKC really wanted IHart, it would have gotten done immediately. The C market already looks dried up.
RE: ...  
Reeses Pieces : 7/1/2024 6:26 am : link
In comment 16546256 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.


As a Knicks fan this does not worry me at all. He’s 34, often injured and the will be guarded primarily by OG. The Sixers are desperate, they maxed him and gave him a player option in his final year when he’s 39/40 years old.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/1/2024 7:21 am : link
In comment 16546258 Reeses Pieces said:
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Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.



As a Knicks fan this does not worry me at all. He’s 34, often injured and the will be guarded primarily by OG. The Sixers are desperate, they maxed him and gave him a player option in his final year when he’s 39/40 years old.


I’m not being a phony just because he’s on the Sixers. I never wanted PG on the Knicks for the very reasons you listed. Plus, his age put him out of the window of the current Knicks roster. He’s missed as many postseason games as he’s played the past 3 years.

The Sixers needed to do this. The Knicks didn’t.
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moze1021 : 7/1/2024 7:28 am : link
In comment 16546257 robbieballs2003 said:
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Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.



Yep. It was posted last night.

We have to imagine that every minute that goes by, the odds of IHart coming back to the Knicks increases. These teams know the situation the Knicks are in. If OKC really wanted IHart, it would have gotten done immediately. The C market already looks dried up.


I think last night was just technically heavy speculation.. news broke early this AM..

On iHart, I did see on X that it seems as if OKC leadership already left the meeting with him. Probably good news that we haven't heard anything..
I am definitely  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 7:51 am : link
in the camp of the Sixers are a little scary in the short term, but I'm also not sure how they plan on matching up with the Knicks.

You're going to have a vet min role player guarding Julius? Or you're going to have PG guarding Julius in the past? Doubt that.

Maxey can't guard Brunson so he's going to guard Mikal or OG?

Meanwhile we put Mikal on Maxey, OG on PG and then matchup against Embiid like we just did (admittedly he was fairly dominant even while hurt)
This tells me that if we don't trade for Bridges and agreed to the 4th  
Stu11 : 7/1/2024 7:51 am : link
year, there's a damn good chance PG is a Knick. If the Clippers were convinced he was leaving they would have been itching to make the trade and get something.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/1/2024 8:01 am : link
In comment 16546267 moze1021 said:
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Paul George to the 76ers per Woj.



Yep. It was posted last night.

We have to imagine that every minute that goes by, the odds of IHart coming back to the Knicks increases. These teams know the situation the Knicks are in. If OKC really wanted IHart, it would have gotten done immediately. The C market already looks dried up.



I think last night was just technically heavy speculation.. news broke early this AM..

On iHart, I did see on X that it seems as if OKC leadership already left the meeting with him. Probably good news that we haven't heard anything..


Gotcha
RE: This tells me that if we don't trade for Bridges and agreed to the 4th  
Somers24 : 7/1/2024 8:02 am : link
In comment 16546270 Stu11 said:
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year, there's a damn good chance PG is a Knick. If the Clippers were convinced he was leaving they would have been itching to make the trade and get something.


Let's say you are correct (and I think you are). I'd much rather have Bridges than George -- primarily from the standpoint of age/durability/chemistry.
RE: This tells me that if we don't trade for Bridges and agreed to the 4th  
Reeses Pieces : 7/1/2024 8:04 am : link
In comment 16546270 Stu11 said:
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year, there's a damn good chance PG is a Knick. If the Clippers were convinced he was leaving they would have been itching to make the trade and get something.


PG at the 2 with OG and Randle playing the forward spots? He’s older and unreliable when compared to Bridges. Bridges is durable and more versatile, plus he clearly fits the Knicks culture. No regrets making the Bridges deal.
And there is no way IHart would come back had we got Paul.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/1/2024 8:08 am : link
We'd have our pick but would have to dump some to move contracts, maybe. I agree. Bridges was the get. Honestly, when I saw the names of potential trade candidates, I thought Mitchell was the target just because we really needed to make a move now, not because it was the best fit. In addition, when I saw Bridges' name, he made the most sense but didn't think it was possible because of the Nets
Picks not pick  
robbieballs2003 : 7/1/2024 8:08 am : link
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RE: RE: This tells me that if we don't trade for Bridges and agreed to the 4th  
Stu11 : 7/1/2024 8:13 am : link
In comment 16546275 Somers24 said:
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year, there's a damn good chance PG is a Knick. If the Clippers were convinced he was leaving they would have been itching to make the trade and get something.



Let's say you are correct (and I think you are). I'd much rather have Bridges than George -- primarily from the standpoint of age/durability/chemistry.

Absolutely. Bridges is a much better fit chemistry wise, much more dependable and durable and on a much better contract. I'd do that trade 100 times out of 100.
One thing i saw yesterday  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:30 am : link
On the Macri livestream, Jeremy Cohen was breaking down all of the scenarios with Ihart and one thing he had was both Ihart and zmitch coming back and it doesnt work under the second apron....

Could be why Begely had a report yesterday about the Knicks looking at Sims trades, clears an extra 2 million
Begley  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 8:35 am : link
reporting that Goga has an offer from Orlando which is...interesting.

Maybe OKC is really the only real threat.
I think the reason the Knicks and fans were interested  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:38 am : link
Paul George is because A) No one thought the Nets would trade Bridges to the Knicks and B) His skillset was absolutely perfect for the Knicks, really his skillset fits anywhere
Yeah  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 8:39 am : link
I think everyone is in agreement that the Mikal trade was option A the entire time. I don't regret not getting PG, I just he didn't then go to our division.
RE: Begley  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:39 am : link
In comment 16546299 Jon In NYC said:
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reporting that Goga has an offer from Orlando which is...interesting.

Maybe OKC is really the only real threat.


Its a really good sign that he didnt sign right away after meeting with OKC like George did after meeting with Sixers
nygiants16  
Sean : 7/1/2024 8:45 am : link
Do you want IHart back? I recall you torching him on the game 7 thread. Was that more emotion? Seems you want him back now.
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 7/1/2024 8:49 am : link
Like Bitadze might be headed back to Orlando
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:49 am : link
In comment 16546308 Sean said:
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Do you want IHart back? I recall you torching him on the game 7 thread. Was that more emotion? Seems you want him back now.


No other choice in the matter in reality..

I definitely dont want both Mitch and Ihart back, if i had to choose between the 2 i am choosing Ihart..

I want to see a lot of Randle at the 5
Maxey  
DanMetroMan : 7/1/2024 8:54 am : link
Extension with the Sixers 5 for 204
It really  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 8:55 am : link
is wild to me that a man who will have made over 300 mil by the time this 4th year hits decided to leave his entire family on the west coast to just guarantee himself that last 55 mil and be stuck in shitty ass Philly.
So it seems like  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:57 am : link
the Celtics, Sixers and Knicks are all built for a 4 to 5 year window
RE: It really  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 8:57 am : link
In comment 16546315 Jon In NYC said:
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is wild to me that a man who will have made over 300 mil by the time this 4th year hits decided to leave his entire family on the west coast to just guarantee himself that last 55 mil and be stuck in shitty ass Philly.


and he got a player option for the 4th year lol
I am guessing they can make this official  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2024 9:01 am : link
after doing all their signings and go over the cap, but interesting

Shams Charania
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Sources: The Oklahoma City Thunder and free agent F Aaron Wiggins have agreed to a new five-year, $47 million deal. After OKC declined his $2M team option, Wiggins receives $45M in new money, with a significant raise next season. Thunder lock in a key rotation piece long-term

RE: I am guessing they can make this official  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:02 am : link
In comment 16546323 nygiants16 said:
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after doing all their signings and go over the cap, but interesting

Shams Charania
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Sources: The Oklahoma City Thunder and free agent F Aaron Wiggins have agreed to a new five-year, $47 million deal. After OKC declined his $2M team option, Wiggins receives $45M in new money, with a significant raise next season. Thunder lock in a key rotation piece long-term


I think that's notable. The Thunder are historically a team that avoids taxes at all costs and they have big extensions coming up.
RE: So it seems like  
Strahan91 : 7/1/2024 9:04 am : link
In comment 16546316 nygiants16 said:
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the Celtics, Sixers and Knicks are all built for a 4 to 5 year window

There's no way neither Embiid nor George don't breakdown sooner than that
RE: So it seems like  
Sean : 7/1/2024 9:06 am : link
In comment 16546316 nygiants16 said:
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the Celtics, Sixers and Knicks are all built for a 4 to 5 year window

Yep. This is it now. No more speculation as to what the next big move will be, this is the team mostly. Go out and win.
RE: I am guessing they can make this official  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:07 am : link
In comment 16546323 nygiants16 said:
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after doing all their signings and go over the cap, but interesting

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Sources: The Oklahoma City Thunder and free agent F Aaron Wiggins have agreed to a new five-year, $47 million deal. After OKC declined his $2M team option, Wiggins receives $45M in new money, with a significant raise next season. Thunder lock in a key rotation piece long-term


Isiah Joe now getting 4/48…
Windhorst said he thinks Markkanen will be traded.  
Strahan91 : 7/1/2024 9:07 am : link
OKC would be crazy not to outbid the field for him. They won't find a better fit for their current roster in terms of skillset and age.
RE: Begley  
Stu11 : 7/1/2024 9:08 am : link
In comment 16546299 Jon In NYC said:
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reporting that Goga has an offer from Orlando which is...interesting.

Maybe OKC is really the only real threat.

Once Orlando signed KCP they were out on IHart. OKC is it.
I take the OKC moves  
ajr2456 : 7/1/2024 9:08 am : link
As a positive sign, but OKC could buck the trend and pay taxes
RE: Begley  
Stu11 : 7/1/2024 9:08 am : link
In comment 16546299 Jon In NYC said:
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reporting that Goga has an offer from Orlando which is...interesting.

Maybe OKC is really the only real threat.

Once Orlando signed KCP they were out on IHart. OKC is it.
RE: RE: Begley  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16546337 Stu11 said:
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reporting that Goga has an offer from Orlando which is...interesting.

Maybe OKC is really the only real threat.


Once Orlando signed KCP they were out on IHart. OKC is it.


I actually think they have enough for both. They came in with a ton of cap space. But a Goga offer suggests they’re not waiting for Isaiah. They also have plenty of other needs. Notably someone who can score the basketball
you would think  
Enzo : 7/1/2024 9:12 am : link
the Sixers still need some more depth but if (and I realize this is a big "if") their top guys somehow stay healthy they can win it all.
RE: you would think  
Strahan91 : 7/1/2024 9:13 am : link
In comment 16546345 Enzo said:
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the Sixers still need some more depth but if (and I realize this is a big "if") their top guys somehow stay healthy they can win it all.

George has been mostly terrible in the playoffs for much of his career. One reason why LAC fans wanted him gone. I don't see that getting better with age.
I'm guessing Markkanen  
Enzo : 7/1/2024 9:16 am : link
has signaled he doesn't want to stay in Utah. I feel like he would have been a good fit here.
RE: I'm guessing Markkanen  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16546351 Enzo said:
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has signaled he doesn't want to stay in Utah. I feel like he would have been a good fit here.


Still could be. I think Randle might be the better fit with a mediocre playmaker at the 2 in Mikal, but they have more picks to offer + Randle if they wanted to.
RE: RE: I'm guessing Markkanen  
Enzo : 7/1/2024 9:21 am : link
In comment 16546354 Jon In NYC said:
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has signaled he doesn't want to stay in Utah. I feel like he would have been a good fit here.



Still could be. I think Randle might be the better fit with a mediocre playmaker at the 2 in Mikal, but they have more picks to offer + Randle if they wanted to.

or a crazy 3 or 4 team trade. But I feel like it's hard to find teams around the league where Randle works in terms of fit and timeline.

With Markkanen, anyone trading for him is taking a risk because his current salary means he's almost 100% getting to unrestricted free agency next summer.
His contract is so reasonable  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:22 am : link
anyone with picks can basically come in and trade for it. I really hope it's not the Sixers.

Keep him out west.
If  
Jon In NYC : 7/1/2024 9:25 am : link
I'm the Warriors in fact I'm giving the PG offer and then some for Lauri.

Kuminga, Wiggins, Moody, future picks.
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