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DanMetroMan : 7/1/2024 10:17 am
Marco Vargas activated, Joseph Yabbour promoted to @stluciemets, Carlos Guzman to @SyracuseMets #Mets .
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Horrendous  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 11:45 am : link
run so far in the DSL for Yovanny Rodriguez (biggest bonus the Mets have ever given out... will be surpassed next signing period). Now hitting .164
Just read that piece  
bhill410 : 7/11/2024 11:53 am : link
Was surprised to see BJ Upton on it. Thought he would have snuck onto something in his first couple of years.
RE: Just read that piece  
GF1080 : 7/11/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16551724 bhill410 said:
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Was surprised to see BJ Upton on it. Thought he would have snuck onto something in his first couple of years.


Agreed especially considering his prospect status.
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 12:50 pm : link
J-Rod 0-1, Gilbert 0-1, Juan 0-1, K, Reimer 0-1, Gutierrez 0-1, Rosa 0-1 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 1:08 pm : link
Drew Gilbert walks to lead-off the 4th for @FCLMets #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 1:19 pm : link
Rosa grounds out. Really disappointing season for Rosa who is now hitting .138 in the FCL #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 1:56 pm : link
Drew Gilbert's day is done 0-2, BB, K #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 2:09 pm : link
Safe to assume that even if Drew Gilbert goes bonkers over the next few weeks, he won't be called up before the 2025 PPI deadline passes. Last season it was 8/18. Stearns isn't forfeiting a potential extra high pick to rush up an unproven player
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 2:10 pm : link
J-Rod 2-4, error. He's 9/27 so far in July, getting back on track after a brutal June, Juan 1-3, K #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 2:30 pm : link
Simon Juan with his second hit of the game, a double, his 10th of the season. Juan has had a very solid season (111 wRC+) and given his age (turns 19 on Saturday) he remains at minimum a name to follow headed into 2025 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 3:25 pm : link
@keithlaw says @mets have been tied to Carson Benge "for months"
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 4:45 pm : link
@fangraphs currently ranks @mets farm system 15th in value #Mets
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GF1080 : 7/11/2024 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16551871 DanMetroMan said:
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Safe to assume that even if Drew Gilbert goes bonkers over the next few weeks, he won't be called up before the 2025 PPI deadline passes. Last season it was 8/18. Stearns isn't forfeiting a potential extra high pick to rush up an unproven player


Very good point! Always forgetting about the PPI stuff.
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DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 5:13 pm : link
Acuna 1-2, Baty 0-1, BB, K (playing 3b), Ritter 1-2, Schwartz 0-0, RBI, Megill 2 perfect 3 k's #Mets
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Named Later : 7/11/2024 7:15 pm : link
Game 1 -- Megill had a 4-0 lead, but coughed up the tying run in the 5th.

Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.


Time for Megill to be converted to BP  
Metnut : 7/11/2024 8:26 pm : link
He’s never going to be more than a 6th or so starter despite showing flashes
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Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16551955 DanMetroMan said:
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@keithlaw says @mets have been tied to Carson Benge "for months"


on a scale from 1 to jett williams, would you be happy with benge? do you have any favorites this year?
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Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16552141 Named Later said:
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Game 1 -- Megill had a 4-0 lead, but coughed up the tying run in the 5th.

Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.



i think the thing people miss with acuna right now is that speed and defense are huge aspects of baseball. always have been and with the rules they are even more.

PCA got called up by the cubs when he was not hitting very well at AAA. In the big leagues he has hit .200 with a 53 run created. but because he plays really good defense he's been worth .7 fwar. he's stolen 16 bases. which basically triple his number of xbh (which is just 8).

you know who wont be worth .7 fwar this year? DJ stewart or ben Gamel. DJ is actually -.1 and Mcneil is even worse. we can pray iglesius continues playing the way he is or that marte somehow comes back healthy and not terrible in RF, but id start making backup plans with acuna in case baty's defense at 2b is problematic. one of those plans would also be baty in the OF.
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DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 9:11 am : link
In comment 16552182 Eric on Li said:
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@keithlaw says @mets have been tied to Carson Benge "for months"



on a scale from 1 to jett williams, would you be happy with benge? do you have any favorites this year?


Outstanding athlete but major concerns with how much power he'll hit for and his swing in general. I like him but would be concerned with the Mets being the team to make the necessary swing changes.

Personally Caldwell, Lindsay, Brecht, Seaver King if they really want a college bat in their range, Cijntje would probably be the players I'd most be happy with. Benge would be a quality addition to the organization.
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DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 9:18 am : link
.@SyracuseMets TBD
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (HR's have been killer for McLean so far, 8 over 34.2 innings. Otherwise his AA numbers don't look far off from his BK work)
@BKCyclones Dakota Hawkins
@stluciemets Ernesto Mercedes #Mets
BA  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 9:24 am : link
now mentioning Culpepper, I wouldn't love that pick.
RE: BA  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 9:48 am : link
In comment 16552313 DanMetroMan said:
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now mentioning Culpepper, I wouldn't love that pick.



19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.

Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.
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Named Later : 7/12/2024 10:01 am : link
I have not heard of Seaver King until this very moment....But I want the Mets to draft this kid.

Googled him -- Good Resume' and excellent name.
Simon Juan actually having a decent year  
bhill410 : 7/12/2024 10:06 am : link
Is one development I did not see happening. You do have to wonder though what his actual age is.
Gilbert  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 11:19 am : link
Not in the lineup today. I’m sure that was planned
RE: Gilbert  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 11:28 am : link
In comment 16552400 DanMetroMan said:
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Not in the lineup today. I’m sure that was planned


No Reimer either. Hopefully he's going to meet the Cyclones.


Daiverson has been solid so far in FCL which is good to see.
RE: RE: BA  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 11:30 am : link
In comment 16552322 DanMetroMan said:
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now mentioning Culpepper, I wouldn't love that pick.




19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.

Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.


it seems like brewers under him took athletes who play defense and have that all around good intangibles thing (so i guess nimmo, jett williams and gilbert types). corey ray was their highest bonus over $4m and frelick was i think their second highest pick/bonus at $4m and he seems very similar to drew gilbert. turang is a great glove. mitchell looks to be playing mostly CF and has the "good command of strike zone" thing in his scouting reports.

hiurra was a bat to ball skills guy, he also got a $4m bonus, though his scouting report was a little more one dimensional. lutz seems like the only real power hitter profile they chose and he was a supp pick so his bonus was 2.3m. eric brown and tyler black got similar low 2m's signing bonuses. black sounds like a funky prospect. cant recall any other 1b prospect who stole 55 bases in any season even minors.

there are probably more clues in houston drafts than brewers drafts though. im sure stearns is involved but gross is probably equally if not more involved in developing the short list of guys they believe in.
Really  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 11:42 am : link
hope Gilbert is better than Frelick. Frelick career .345 slugging% over 141 games. Don't think fans would be too excited about a Frelick outcome.
RE: Really  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 11:59 am : link
In comment 16552418 DanMetroMan said:
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hope Gilbert is better than Frelick. Frelick career .345 slugging% over 141 games. Don't think fans would be too excited about a Frelick outcome.


I feel like there was always some concern with Frelick's power whereas for Gilbert not as much. I do agree it would be really disappointing if Gilbert showed up with that type of SLG over his first full season. There's also time for Frelick to at least start to life the ball a bit more.
i tend to read those "good at everything not great at anything" types  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 12:13 pm : link
as likely to be good 3rd/4th OFers/useful role players. i think its far less common they develop into nimmo type all stars.

reading gilbert's scouting report that's how i felt, and while his run in AA last year was super impressive he also had a really high BABIP. my expectation is he is more solid RF with a strong side platoon than star. maybe brett gardner-ish. if he can play plus D in center that raises the ceiling but it doesnt seem likely he's better in center long term than acuna or jett.
DiComo  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 2:20 pm : link
Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise
RE: DiComo  
KDavies : 7/12/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16552484 DanMetroMan said:
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Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise


Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros
Could Mauricio be moved to the outfield when healthy?  
Csonka : 7/12/2024 3:47 pm : link
Not sure where his long term position is.
RE: RE: DiComo  
DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 3:48 pm : link
In comment 16552499 KDavies said:
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Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise



Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros


Yup. Nothing new, just clarity from DiComo. It does make the “what Stearns did in Milwaukee via the draft…” less notable.
RE: DiComo  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16552484 DanMetroMan said:
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Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise


that makes sense, stearns' job is too big to be effective "running the show". im sure he and gross have alignment in what types of players they are looking for, and then it's basically gross' job to go out there and find it.
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Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 3:51 pm : link
In comment 16552523 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16552484 DanMetroMan said:


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Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise



Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros



Yup. Nothing new, just clarity from DiComo. It does make the “what Stearns did in Milwaukee via the draft…” less notable.


i would guess in Milwaukee he worked similarly, especially once Arnold ascended to GM he was probably pretty removed in terms of specific selections.

I think what we might see is anywhere there was overlap in the types of players Houston/Milwaukee tended toward, especially wherever successful, are the types of players we will see Gross/Stearns trying to find. But ultimately the board will fall how it falls so even that only goes so far.
RE: Could Mauricio be moved to the outfield when healthy?  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:26 pm : link
In comment 16552522 Csonka said:
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Not sure where his long term position is.


He looked really good at 2B last year. They should have tried him at one or both of the corner OF spots. It's a little late now though with him being out injured for the year. I want him on this team, but a trade looks inevitable with the logjam we've go in the infield between himself, Baty, Acuna, and Jett. Mauricio and Baty will be ready to rock and roll next year (I'm assuming Baty will spend the rest of the season at Triple A based on the dynamic of things now with the big club).

Acuna will prolly be ready to be promoted to the show as well next season, but I could see them leaving him at Syracuse a lil while longer. Jett is prolly gonna play in the Arizona Fall League after he comes back form his injury and will start the season at either the Bing (AA) or at 'Cuse, depending on a whole bunch of factors. He ain't gonna be coming up to the show till 2026 IMO based on the dynamics of things personnel-wise as of now.
To me, Vientos has won a position on this team. I'm OK with him at the  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:36 pm : link
hot corner now. Before I was iffy, but now, he's ok. Baty is a superior defensive player there, but Vientos has stepped it up. I'm happy for him and proud of him as well.

Now, ASSUMING Pete is re-signed (which is a BIG assumption right now), I would be fine with Baty and Vientos alternating between DH and 3B. I'd prefer Baty to play there defensively more than not, but that's a good combo IF Baty figures his $hit out and learns to launch the ball at Syracuse this year before coming back next year. I'm also assuming J.D. Martinez won't be back next year (sorry to say that).

Mauricio would look nice at 2B. He didn't embarrass himself there last year. Keep Jett in the minors till at least 2026. That leaves Acuna, who should be ready for the big club next year. I could one of Acuna or Mauricio going in a trade, particularly Acuna, for a corner OF, starting pitcher, or a first baseman if Pete leaves in free agency. If Pete's back I could even see the Mets making a play for a big-time reliever (perhaps Alexis Diaz). Let's see how things work themselves out because there will promise to be lots of moving parts this coming off-season.
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Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16552327 Named Later said:
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I have not heard of Seaver King until this very moment....But I want the Mets to draft this kid.

Googled him -- Good Resume' and excellent name.


Georgia produces some good players. The Braves sure do love to mine their home state for talent. He'd be a good addition to the Mets' minor league cache of talent.

This Seaver is terrific too: MLB Draft prospect forging remarkable path | July 11th, 2024 | By Anthony Castrovince @castrovince


How Seaver King went from good Division II player to potential first-round MLB Draft pick | By Sara Tidwell | Athens Banner-Herald | July 8, 2024 - ( New Window )
RE: Time for Megill to be converted to BP  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:47 pm : link
In comment 16552159 Metnut said:
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He’s never going to be more than a 6th or so starter despite showing flashes


+1
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DanMetroMan : 7/12/2024 6:40 pm : link
As I said back in May, @mets were/are reportedly high on Yonatan Henriquez. He is now hitting .301/.474/.369 31/20 BB/K (not a typo), 15/18 SB's. Came into today with a 146 wRC+, 9th best in the FCL
Are you guys cool if I start a draft thread today?  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 10:08 am : link
People were asking on the Rockies series thread. What say you? I think it's a good idea.
RE: Are you guys cool if I start a draft thread today?  
pjcas18 : 7/13/2024 10:12 am : link
In comment 16552810 Optimus-NY said:
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People were asking on the Rockies series thread. What say you? I think it's a good idea.


thumbs up from me...
Clifford  
GF1080 : 7/13/2024 10:18 am : link
2/4 with a 2B and a BB yesterday. Up to .238/.380/.544 line in AA good for a 154 wRC+. Parada hit another HR as well. Pretty sure he's been on fire the last 2 weeks. Maybe there's some hope there after all and seems like his D is improving. Up to a 95 wRC+.

Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.
RE: RE: Are you guys cool if I start a draft thread today?  
KDavies : 7/13/2024 10:25 am : link
In comment 16552813 pjcas18 said:
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People were asking on the Rockies series thread. What say you? I think it's a good idea.



thumbs up from me...


Absolutely 100% from me. Like the separate draft thread
OK. Separate Draft thread it is.  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 10:42 am : link
I'm making one now. I'll also do an All-Star Break thread too, in lieu of a series thread. This way we can have a stream of consciousness thing going there too for whatever other random stuff people might want to chat about during that time not associated with the draft or minor leagues. It'll help to organize and consolidate things better I think. The suggestion was made about the draft thread today and it made sense. I should post it very shortly. Won't be anything complicated. Just a place we can follow the goings-on starting tomorrow.
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DanMetroMan : 7/13/2024 11:29 am : link
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@SyracuseMets
TBD
@RumblePoniesBB
Luis Moreno
@BKCyclones
Felipe De La Cruz
@stluciemets
Joel Diaz
#Mets
RE: Clifford  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 11:34 am : link
In comment 16552818 GF1080 said:
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2/4 with a 2B and a BB yesterday. Up to .238/.380/.544 line in AA good for a 154 wRC+. Parada hit another HR as well. Pretty sure he's been on fire the last 2 weeks. Maybe there's some hope there after all and seems like his D is improving. Up to a 95 wRC+.

Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.


parada has hit for xbh most of his career so his carrying tool is still sort of carrying, or at least keeping him treading water.

the problem is it is carrying a lot of negative baggage with the contact problems and defense. though like you said those things appear to be somewhat improving and it is not abnormal for catchers to take longer.

i think he is clearly an interesting trade chip that a team searching for hitting upside in the upper minors could be tempted by. however long the odds are he is a solid powerball ticket.
A  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2024 11:42 am : link
major point of concern in regard to optimism with Parada (and Houck has a similar red flag)... in zone whiff rates. If you're swinging and missing at pitches out of the zone, that's something that's "easier" to correct. We've seen plenty of free swingers become more selective. Missing pitches IN the strike zone at a high level has been proven to be far more difficult to correct.
The  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2024 11:50 am : link
Mets have 44 pitchers under contract who have yet to throw a pitch in 2024 (most of them due to injury).
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