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NFT: Death Valley lives up to it's name, AGAIN ....

Manny in CA : 7/8/2024 2:13 pm

Having lived in the California desert for 53 years, I'm still amazed how folks have NO respect for the tremendous heat, here ....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/motorcycle-tour-death-valley-turns-011043327.html
It's not just the heat  
JohnF : 7/8/2024 2:36 pm : link
During the winter, it can get bitter cold at night. Some parts get very windy, icy, and snow-covered over the higher passes. Do not drive from Death Valley up highway 395 at night, for example, in the winter.

And there is danger from flash floods...which can overwhelm you. There are rattlesnakes there as well. People need to understand Deserts are dangerous places, even if you're prepared...which the motorcyclists were not.
Morons  
bwitz : 7/8/2024 4:16 pm : link
I heard Vegas set a head record of 120 degrees  
BlackLight : 7/8/2024 4:24 pm : link
and my first thought was surprise that the previous heat record wasn't already well above that.
It was so hot in AZ the other day  
bwitz : 7/8/2024 4:31 pm : link
a message popped up in the center console telling me that all of the cameras used for lane management and such were not functional until they cooled off. That was only about 118.

And these dumbasses are just taking a jaunt on motorcycles in Death Valley. No
Common sense.
the heat is entirely bearable if you're smart  
gtt350 : 7/8/2024 4:47 pm : link
there is 3% humidity so you don't even sweat. I wear a long sleeve shirt and a safari hat and i'm good to go.
I'm talking Vegas not Death Valley  
gtt350 : 7/8/2024 4:48 pm : link
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Been going to Death Valley since the 80's  
Ron from Ninerland : 7/8/2024 5:34 pm : link
including by motorcycle. One thing you absolutely must do when riding a bike in 100 degree plus weather is protect your self from the wind. What means long sleeves and a full face helmet.

Another thing specific to Death Valley is that Badwater Creek, where this biker met his maker is considerably hotter than Furnace Creek, where the "official temperature" for Death Valley was recorded.

The last time I was there ( in an air conditioned automobile at my age ), the car's thermometer showed 128 degrees at Badwater. I acutally got out walked some. When we got back to Furnace Creek where it was "only" 110, it felt mild.
situational awareness is a thing  
RobCrossRiver56 : 7/8/2024 6:16 pm : link
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RE: situational awareness is a thing  
islander1 : 7/8/2024 6:46 pm : link
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... that many Americans lack.
Darwin  
Bill in UT : 7/8/2024 7:35 pm : link
had it right
RE: RE: situational awareness is a thing  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/8/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16549973 islander1 said:
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... that many Americans lack.


We are bad but I've found human stupidity a world wide issue. But we definitely have more than our share sadly
About sweating in the desert ....  
Manny in CA : 7/8/2024 8:07 pm : link

The humidity is so low, that often it evaporates so quickly that you don't feel it, and THAT is the trap - unrecognized dehydration, after that comes heat exhaustion then heat stroke.

In my youth, I used to work all day in temps of up to 112 (with breaks). Above that, it's like your body starts screaming at you. The hottest temp I've ever worked in was 118 - that was living HELL.

The hottest temp I've ever experienced was at Lake Havasu AZ - was 124. It was hard to breath. The parking lot surface felt like walking on a hot skillet; my sneaker shoes were totally inadequate from protecting my feet from the furnace-like heat.

128, I don't see how anybody survives more than a 2-3 hours of hours riding on a hot piece of metal, with the sands of Hell blasting you (no matter how young you are and your clothing).

Death Valley is a beautiful and amazing place in the Winter - I highly recommend it.
RE: situational awareness is a thing  
DCGMan : 7/8/2024 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16549952 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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Most Americans think that’s an iPhone camera setting.
RE: About sweating in the desert ....  
DCGMan : 7/8/2024 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16550026 Manny in CA said:
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The humidity is so low, that often it evaporates so quickly that you don't feel it, and THAT is the trap - unrecognized dehydration, after that comes heat exhaustion then heat stroke.

In my youth, I used to work all day in temps of up to 112 (with breaks). Above that, it's like your body starts screaming at you. The hottest temp I've ever worked in was 118 - that was living HELL.

The hottest temp I've ever experienced was at Lake Havasu AZ - was 124. It was hard to breath. The parking lot surface felt like walking on a hot skillet; my sneaker shoes were totally inadequate from protecting my feet from the furnace-like heat.

128, I don't see how anybody survives more than a 2-3 hours of hours riding on a hot piece of metal, with the sands of Hell blasting you (no matter how young you are and your clothing).

Death Valley is a beautiful and amazing place in the Winter - I highly recommend it.


I worked in Phoenix in 2017 when it hit 117 a couple times, and Phoenix airport would have to shutdown.

My job required me to walk outside during the afternoon. Would try to minimize the time outside in that heat but damn did I feel almost drunkish being outside for more than 10 minutes.
I got married outdoors in Vegas  
Ron from Ninerland : 7/9/2024 1:22 am : link
It was 110. I was in a wool tuxedo. My hands were sweating and my wife's was sweating a swollen. I could barely get the ring on. At least the canopy provided some shade.

The other hottest days I experienced was stopping in Dodge City, Kansas where it was 115 degrees. I had to walk our dogs in the heat and I remember practically shoving their heads into the water bowl so they'd drink.

The hottest was that day in Death Valley. It was 100-teens when we arrived in Furnace Creek and 120's at Badwater.
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