I can't wait for the episode where they praise Naber's personality and dawg mentality. I'm also curious to see if the skipping the combine thing even registers on management's radar. That sure caused some itchiness among the fans.
RE: does anyone know off hand how many episodes there is going to be
watching the first episode, that some of those meetings and conversations among the GM and the coaching staff ... if a group of the most football-savvy fans here couldn't have had similar and perhaps equally productive conversations.
No, I'm not saying that's realistic or that I/we could run the Giants. But there are things I KNOW I couldn't do (be an actor or a frontman in a band, just a couple of many), but with a team of people around me?
Admit it, if you at any point thought to yourself watching episode one, "these aren't particularly riveting revelations any of these guys are having."
It all seemed somewhat "basic," which also made me wonder (because my thoughts went the direction they did), is this a good front office team we have here? I really don't know. I wasn't incredibly impressed, honestly. Did not get the impression there were any "rockstars" in the room, like you'd have with a Parcells of, slightly different bent, a true leader in Coughlin.
I hope things come together for this group. That's a lot more fun than the other way.
...hard core NFL fans. Cowboys and Falcons. They were both like, "Inside look at the Giants front office and scouting? Oh how thrilling." LOL, I guess this is only attractive to giants superfans and anyone really obsessed with NFL front office operations and offseason stuff. I'm excited...
Makes me a little nostalgic for that nutcase we had, who was that now, Matt in Syracuse? The guy who was absolutely fruit loops over front office machinations and maneuvers, and sleeper stars? That would be entertaining right now. In an oh god make it stop kind of way.
RE: I wonder if anyone else here had a fleeting thought,
watching the first episode, that some of those meetings and conversations among the GM and the coaching staff ... if a group of the most football-savvy fans here couldn't have had similar and perhaps equally productive conversations.
No, I'm not saying that's realistic or that I/we could run the Giants. But there are things I KNOW I couldn't do (be an actor or a frontman in a band, just a couple of many), but with a team of people around me?
Admit it, if you at any point thought to yourself watching episode one, "these aren't particularly riveting revelations any of these guys are having."
It all seemed somewhat "basic," which also made me wonder (because my thoughts went the direction they did), is this a good front office team we have here? I really don't know. I wasn't incredibly impressed, honestly. Did not get the impression there were any "rockstars" in the room, like you'd have with a Parcells of, slightly different bent, a true leader in Coughlin.
I hope things come together for this group. That's a lot more fun than the other way.
I think there are a few BBIers that could be in that room and come off intelligently. I also do not think it is a easy as it looks. It looks very mundane to the average viewer.
Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
He was definitely butt hurt at what the offers had been. Good for Schoen. Don’t pay for a 27 year old RB when your team is full of holes.
Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
best part of this episode was seeing the REAL Brian Daboll.
Also, there is no way Schoen has that conversation with the Patriots unless he was interested in moving up. He may not thought it was likely they would trade back, but the Giants were interested in moving up.
The private talk between Schoen and Brandon Brown was excellent too.
Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
Yeah plus the convo with the Giants Media Director, where Schoen mentioned how he turned down a Bunch of money the year prior it seems like there was a rift between the two and the decision was certainly made that Barkley wanted out from the Giants. Who knows what happened, but Schoen certaibly comes off as the loudest voice against signing him and paying a RB a lot of money. I don’t think anyone other than ownership really wanted him here no matter the cost (Did you see the clip of Mara saying he would lose sleep at night if they don’t re-sign him?). Anyways, glad he is no longer on the team.
I really want Daboll to succeed here. I hope he gets a chance to work with a QB in the near future whom he and management select and can groom together. He certainly is the right guy for the job, just hope doesn’t get thrown out before then by another year or two of shit performance from the poor unit we have currently.
For a football nerd the interviews with Daniel's, Maye, and William's were like crack....
I could listen to these dudes talking x's and O's all day..
I thought Dabolls interviewing tactics were especially fascinating...having the QB change the play, change the conversation, then immediately ask them to recite the play from earlier in the conversation.
Other points I picked up
1) Giants view Corner has a huge need
2) Trade up to pick 3 was real with NE
2) Giants were interested in Christian Wilkins
3) Giants had some interest in retaining Mckinney
4) Giants are concerned Jones may not be ready until week 3/4
5) Giants felt unsure about Maliks personality. Jones approved Maliks talent.
Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
He was definitely butt hurt at what the offers had been. Good for Schoen. Don’t pay for a 27 year old RB when your team is full of holes.
But DO pay $160 million for a mediocre QB when your team's full of holes
Other points I picked up
1) Giants view Corner has a huge need
2) Trade up to pick 3 was real with NE
2) Giants were interested in Christian Wilkins
3) Giants had some interest in retaining Mckinney
4) Giants are concerned Jones may not be ready until week 3/4
5) Giants felt unsure about Maliks personality. Jones approved Maliks talent.
Yup, based on the first two episodes, expect CB to be high on next year's wish list. I expect DT to be too. (QB is a completely different discussion).
some may have found it boring, but I was fascinated by the pre-brief by the PR team. It's exactly how we did it in government.
100%, and I agree completely with your comment on this was a great episode showing the personality and intellect of Brain Daboll. How can you not root for the guy, I truly hope he gets to groom the next Giants QB and doesn’t have the same fate as the 3 failures that came before him. He’s the guy you want here when they need to coach up a new franchise QB.
Surprised they were so into Wilkins. Excellent player but surprised he was such an option.
Surprised by lack of interest in trading for snead. He hasn’t come up once and he is arguably the best cb in the league. Understand Bowen said pass rush is most important and that’s where they focused but still surprised Snead hasn’t come up once.
These guys using stop watches and not having standard agreed upon times is absurd lol. This is a multi billion $ league and this is what they are using?
Would have loved to hear more in depth scouting reports.
caused a lot of resentment. Schoen said "it took 10 years off my life." Saqoun on the phone was super standoffish with Schoen. Saqoun agent was very accommodation of Joe Schoen's call.
Whether its confirmation bias or fact, it's JS sure did convinced himself it's a 27 year old running back and the data is bad when they hit this age. Through the first two episodes other Giants brass seemed a little warming to bring saqoun back.
Lastly, watching this also makes me think maybe Saqoun himself wanted to sign with the eagles as a final slap in the face.
Doubt it will since he was purposely causing copyright issues
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Doubt it will since he was purposely causing copyright issues
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Doubt it will since he was purposely causing copyright issues
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He was playing music on his phone.
It is great Giants entertainment.
Five, every Tues night in July.
No, I'm not saying that's realistic or that I/we could run the Giants. But there are things I KNOW I couldn't do (be an actor or a frontman in a band, just a couple of many), but with a team of people around me?
Admit it, if you at any point thought to yourself watching episode one, "these aren't particularly riveting revelations any of these guys are having."
It all seemed somewhat "basic," which also made me wonder (because my thoughts went the direction they did), is this a good front office team we have here? I really don't know. I wasn't incredibly impressed, honestly. Did not get the impression there were any "rockstars" in the room, like you'd have with a Parcells of, slightly different bent, a true leader in Coughlin.
I hope things come together for this group. That's a lot more fun than the other way.
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I hate that he's a Commander. "Throw a touchdown." That's hilarious.
Makes me a little nostalgic for that nutcase we had, who was that now, Matt in Syracuse? The guy who was absolutely fruit loops over front office machinations and maneuvers, and sleeper stars? That would be entertaining right now. In an oh god make it stop kind of way.
No, I'm not saying that's realistic or that I/we could run the Giants. But there are things I KNOW I couldn't do (be an actor or a frontman in a band, just a couple of many), but with a team of people around me?
Admit it, if you at any point thought to yourself watching episode one, "these aren't particularly riveting revelations any of these guys are having."
It all seemed somewhat "basic," which also made me wonder (because my thoughts went the direction they did), is this a good front office team we have here? I really don't know. I wasn't incredibly impressed, honestly. Did not get the impression there were any "rockstars" in the room, like you'd have with a Parcells of, slightly different bent, a true leader in Coughlin.
I hope things come together for this group. That's a lot more fun than the other way.
I think there are a few BBIers that could be in that room and come off intelligently. I also do not think it is a easy as it looks. It looks very mundane to the average viewer.
Is there a live option as well as delayed stream?
If I log on at 9 will I get the show?
Is there a live option as well as delayed stream?
If I log on at 9 will I get the show?
Is there a live option as well as delayed stream?
If I log on at 9 will I get the show?
Yes.
NVM. Had to click “Resume Ep. 1” and at the end it prompted me to begin Ep 2. Weird it wasn’t showing on the main page for Hard Knocks though.
I'm sure he was until they knew they could get their hands on Burns.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
He was definitely butt hurt at what the offers had been. Good for Schoen. Don’t pay for a 27 year old RB when your team is full of holes.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
His tone sucked. He wanted out.
Also, there is no way Schoen has that conversation with the Patriots unless he was interested in moving up. He may not thought it was likely they would trade back, but the Giants were interested in moving up.
The private talk between Schoen and Brandon Brown was excellent too.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
Yeah plus the convo with the Giants Media Director, where Schoen mentioned how he turned down a Bunch of money the year prior it seems like there was a rift between the two and the decision was certainly made that Barkley wanted out from the Giants. Who knows what happened, but Schoen certaibly comes off as the loudest voice against signing him and paying a RB a lot of money. I don’t think anyone other than ownership really wanted him here no matter the cost (Did you see the clip of Mara saying he would lose sleep at night if they don’t re-sign him?). Anyways, glad he is no longer on the team.
I really want Daboll to succeed here. I hope he gets a chance to work with a QB in the near future whom he and management select and can groom together. He certainly is the right guy for the job, just hope doesn’t get thrown out before then by another year or two of shit performance from the poor unit we have currently.
For a football nerd the interviews with Daniel's, Maye, and William's were like crack....
I could listen to these dudes talking x's and O's all day..
I thought Dabolls interviewing tactics were especially fascinating...having the QB change the play, change the conversation, then immediately ask them to recite the play from earlier in the conversation.
Fucking S tier stuff.
Other points I picked up
1) Giants view Corner has a huge need
2) Trade up to pick 3 was real with NE
2) Giants were interested in Christian Wilkins
3) Giants had some interest in retaining Mckinney
4) Giants are concerned Jones may not be ready until week 3/4
5) Giants felt unsure about Maliks personality. Jones approved Maliks talent.
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Barkley conversation toward the end on the phone with Schoen is really fascinating. Barkley's tone seemed odd, or distant, or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Next episode will address more with Brian Burns. Can't wait for that.
He was definitely butt hurt at what the offers had been. Good for Schoen. Don’t pay for a 27 year old RB when your team is full of holes.
But DO pay $160 million for a mediocre QB when your team's full of holes
Other points I picked up
1) Giants view Corner has a huge need
2) Trade up to pick 3 was real with NE
2) Giants were interested in Christian Wilkins
3) Giants had some interest in retaining Mckinney
4) Giants are concerned Jones may not be ready until week 3/4
5) Giants felt unsure about Maliks personality. Jones approved Maliks talent.
Yup, based on the first two episodes, expect CB to be high on next year's wish list. I expect DT to be too. (QB is a completely different discussion).
They did interview all of the QBs.
I was waiting for that.
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to pay.
Yes, but that price came waaaaay down.
100%, and I agree completely with your comment on this was a great episode showing the personality and intellect of Brain Daboll. How can you not root for the guy, I truly hope he gets to groom the next Giants QB and doesn’t have the same fate as the 3 failures that came before him. He’s the guy you want here when they need to coach up a new franchise QB.
Surprised they were so into Wilkins. Excellent player but surprised he was such an option.
Surprised by lack of interest in trading for snead. He hasn’t come up once and he is arguably the best cb in the league. Understand Bowen said pass rush is most important and that’s where they focused but still surprised Snead hasn’t come up once.
These guys using stop watches and not having standard agreed upon times is absurd lol. This is a multi billion $ league and this is what they are using?
Would have loved to hear more in depth scouting reports.
Whether its confirmation bias or fact, it's JS sure did convinced himself it's a 27 year old running back and the data is bad when they hit this age. Through the first two episodes other Giants brass seemed a little warming to bring saqoun back.
Lastly, watching this also makes me think maybe Saqoun himself wanted to sign with the eagles as a final slap in the face.