I'm not sure how it would be a massive disaster. Who outside the Giants fan base is expecting this team to win more than 8 games? The over/under is currently set at 6.5 wins.
Do I think we're going to win a heck of a lot more? No.
Reality is that until we prove we can win consistently and get a QB people feel confident in, we're going to be projected to suck by the media. Get used to these articles over the next month or so.
RE: Welcome in Bill Belichick if that's the scenario
I'll go one step further. If this team did go 4-13 and fired Daboll but kept Schoen, we are probably in for another decade of 4 win seasons. And honestly I don't think BB is coming here to work on a reclamation project unless Schoen is gone too.
I'm not sure how it would be a massive disaster. Who outside the Giants fan base is expecting this team to win more than 8 games? The over/under is currently set at 6.5 wins.
4 wins is a bad season, but this is a bad team.
I'm not concerned about what people outside think, the actions of the regime don't indicate they plan for this to be a 4 win season.
-Year 3 of the regime
-QB making $40M
-WR1 drafted at #6 overall
-Invested in the OL via free agency
-Traded a top 40 draft pick for Brian Burns and paid him significantly
-Schoen has drafted numerous players now with what should be impact picks (Kayvon, Neal, Robinson, Banks, JMS, Hyatt)
4 wins would be a massive disaster and should result in a new regime if it's THAT bad.
And they can probably support their position better than the Giants being say, .500. I believe we have probably better talent than we’ve had in a decade but that’s based on projecting player development and performance no one else has to believe in. But remember, predicting the future is always a risky proposition. And that cuts both ways.
Oh good. Now I don't have to have the stress of watching
There are just way too many factors in play to say a team will win this many games. The Giants have a good team, if they don't have too many injuries I think they can be very competitive.
back in the saddle. Clear out all the dead wood on the sidelines AND in the front office. Bring along all the lesser Belichickians and the rest of his entourage to right this sinking ship we call the Giants. Looking forward to that .433 winning percentage he had in his last 4 years in NE.
A flying frig what these guys think! Let’s enjoy the season without predictions (which is waste of time anyway) and hope for positive results. The team has improved significantly on paper. Let’s see how it plays out.
but I’d be pretty stunned if they only won 4 games. There are still a number of holes on the team, but I think the talent level is substantially better than last year. We’ll see.
that isn't worth the toilet paper we used this morning.
That said - I'm genuinely curious how people think a young team that was crushed by injuries last year and a brutal schedule is going to win even less games this year.
Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
that isn't worth the toilet paper we used this morning.
That said - I'm genuinely curious how people think a young team that was crushed by injuries last year and a brutal schedule is going to win even less games this year.
between a 4 win and 8 win season isn't as wide a line as some people think.
especially when you look into how many games are 1-score games there are in the league.
The Giants had 7 one-score games (out of 17) in 2023. they went 4-3.
Of course there is context in a one score game. sometimes a late score makes it a one-score game, but reality is the last score could come with next to no time left, but for arguments sake, consider all one-score games the same, void of context. Also consider a one-score game could become a two score at the end meaning it was closer than the two-score outcome would indicate, but it probably evens out if all one-score games are considered the same.
If you have a 7-9 win roster, and get a couple key injuries (like you know will happen) that can easily become a 4 - 6 win roster.
RE: RE: Welcome in Bill Belichick if that's the scenario
I'll go one step further. If this team did go 4-13 and fired Daboll but kept Schoen, we are probably in for another decade of 4 win seasons. And honestly I don't think BB is coming here to work on a reclamation project unless Schoen is gone too.
But the biggest question remark remains the most important position. If there is no great leap forward from the QB position, I wouldn't expect much from this season.
Only 4 wins seems on the low end, but I don't think it's much higher than that without significantly improved QB play.
There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
For this team. A lot would have to go wrong (injuries).
They won 6 games last year with a tougher schedule and chaos at the QB position. Thomas also missed significant time. They lost Saquon, yes, but he averaged only 4YPC and missed time with injury. They improved interior OL pass pro ,added a #1 WR, and added a top 12 edge rusher. Nabers & Burns are two players who can change the entire units dynamic on their side of the ball.
Looking at the roster, it’s not great, but it is much better than 2022 team which won 9 games. The biggest issue is depth at OT, IDL, and CB - but if young players like Neal, Flott, Andru Phillips, and Jordon Riley surprise this team could easily surpass expectations.
There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
They get called out even when they're right.
Um, it's a team website... so not exactly sure what you're expecting. There are sites in Dallas and Philly who welcome tireless negativity towards the NYG with open arms.
needs to have so many young players suddenly develop and be difference makers and the o-line to finally be functional, on top of the continuing mountain of injuries year-after-year..4-13 is not out of the realm of possibility but would prove Schoen/Daboll aren't the solution. This is still a bad team with not enough proven NFL-quality players, a ton of question marks and an abyssal track record to assume that it's suddenly going to be competitive this season.
Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
They get called out even when they're right.
Um, it's a team website... so not exactly sure what you're expecting. There are sites in Dallas and Philly who welcome tireless negativity towards the NYG with open arms.
Calling the Giants a poor team and poorly run organization is a statement that, for a decade, is not negativity. It is fact.
I get it's a Giants site. Does that mean we have to lie about what's happening?
Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
First, Snyder is gone and Harris is a smart guy. Second, Quinn and Kingsbury are big upgrades over Rivera and Bieniemy. Third, Daniels is much better than Howell. Even if Daniels were to have a shaky start, that team is going to respond positively to a Kingsbury led offense with Daniels at the helm. Fourth, the Commanders had the best draft in the NFL in 2024. And fifth, they had a sensational off season in terms of free agents - Ekeler, Ertz, Wagner, Biadasz, Ferrell, Fowler, Zaccheaus. Just to name a few. So yeah, I would expect it to be more difficult for the Giants to sweep them again in 2024.
Keeping his $160M man at QB, drafting said QB a lottery WR, trading high draft assets for another edge threat, adding more experienced bodies to the OL, etc, tells us that Schoen thinks this should be a double-digit win team.
Short of major injuries, that should be everyone's expectations based on those moves from our stylish, PB&J eating GM...
Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
First, Snyder is gone and Harris is a smart guy. Second, Quinn and Kingsbury are big upgrades over Rivera and Bieniemy. Third, Daniels is much better than Howell. Even if Daniels were to have a shaky start, that team is going to respond positively to a Kingsbury led offense with Daniels at the helm. Fourth, the Commanders had the best draft in the NFL in 2024. And fifth, they had a sensational off season in terms of free agents - Ekeler, Ertz, Wagner, Biadasz, Ferrell, Fowler, Zaccheaus. Just to name a few. So yeah, I would expect it to be more difficult for the Giants to sweep them again in 2024.
To sum up...
All of Washington moves are upgrades and better. All of our moves were downgrades and we are worst.
Washington has been and continue to be the offseason champs and The Mike is vice president of their fan club.
I'm not sure how it would be a massive disaster. Who outside the Giants fan base is expecting this team to win more than 8 games? The over/under is currently set at 6.5 wins.
4 wins is a bad season, but this is a bad team.
Do I think we're going to win a heck of a lot more? No.
Reality is that until we prove we can win consistently and get a QB people feel confident in, we're going to be projected to suck by the media. Get used to these articles over the next month or so.
I'll go one step further. If this team did go 4-13 and fired Daboll but kept Schoen, we are probably in for another decade of 4 win seasons. And honestly I don't think BB is coming here to work on a reclamation project unless Schoen is gone too.
That is bad. Thank you for saving me the time.
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That would be a massive disaster.
I'm not sure how it would be a massive disaster. Who outside the Giants fan base is expecting this team to win more than 8 games? The over/under is currently set at 6.5 wins.
4 wins is a bad season, but this is a bad team.
I'm not concerned about what people outside think, the actions of the regime don't indicate they plan for this to be a 4 win season.
-Year 3 of the regime
-QB making $40M
-WR1 drafted at #6 overall
-Invested in the OL via free agency
-Traded a top 40 draft pick for Brian Burns and paid him significantly
-Schoen has drafted numerous players now with what should be impact picks (Kayvon, Neal, Robinson, Banks, JMS, Hyatt)
4 wins would be a massive disaster and should result in a new regime if it's THAT bad.
But like every year since 2012 (!!!), it's all about the OL.
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Traded Barkley to the Eagles.? With a statement like that how can anything else said be believable.
That is bad. Thank you for saving me the time.
I am guessing with something that dumb, it's an AI-written article.
Unlikely.
Isn't 10+ years of hiding in the weeds long enough?
Proof -
Look at what happened Brady's last two years and then thereafter.
I get the predictions.
You have to. And at that point, I don't care how old Belichick is. You need someone with credibility to fix it.
Unlikely.
I don’t follow the logic either.
They were crippled by devastating injuries last year and had a brutal schedule. And they won 6. Now they’ll only win 4, fully healthy?
OK.
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the Giants are going to be worse than last year?
Unlikely.
I don’t follow the logic either.
They were crippled by devastating injuries last year and had a brutal schedule. And they won 6. Now they’ll only win 4, fully healthy?
OK.
How often is this franchise NOT riddled with injuries?
5-6 with Taylor/DeVito
Daniel Jones is 22-36-1 and that avgs to 4.5 wins per season in 5 seasons
That said - I'm genuinely curious how people think a young team that was crushed by injuries last year and a brutal schedule is going to win even less games this year.
Is it because Barkley and Wink are gone?
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
We are the weeds
That said - I'm genuinely curious how people think a young team that was crushed by injuries last year and a brutal schedule is going to win even less games this year.
Is it because Barkley and Wink are gone?
It's because Jones is back
especially when you look into how many games are 1-score games there are in the league.
The Giants had 7 one-score games (out of 17) in 2023. they went 4-3.
Of course there is context in a one score game. sometimes a late score makes it a one-score game, but reality is the last score could come with next to no time left, but for arguments sake, consider all one-score games the same, void of context. Also consider a one-score game could become a two score at the end meaning it was closer than the two-score outcome would indicate, but it probably evens out if all one-score games are considered the same.
If you have a 7-9 win roster, and get a couple key injuries (like you know will happen) that can easily become a 4 - 6 win roster.
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That would be a massive disaster.
I'll go one step further. If this team did go 4-13 and fired Daboll but kept Schoen, we are probably in for another decade of 4 win seasons. And honestly I don't think BB is coming here to work on a reclamation project unless Schoen is gone too.
BB is not coaching this team no matter what.
Only 4 wins seems on the low end, but I don't think it's much higher than that without significantly improved QB play.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
They get called out even when they're right.
They won 6 games last year with a tougher schedule and chaos at the QB position. Thomas also missed significant time. They lost Saquon, yes, but he averaged only 4YPC and missed time with injury. They improved interior OL pass pro ,added a #1 WR, and added a top 12 edge rusher. Nabers & Burns are two players who can change the entire units dynamic on their side of the ball.
Looking at the roster, it’s not great, but it is much better than 2022 team which won 9 games. The biggest issue is depth at OT, IDL, and CB - but if young players like Neal, Flott, Andru Phillips, and Jordon Riley surprise this team could easily surpass expectations.
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There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
They get called out even when they're right.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
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There's going to be a lot of people looking extremely foolish. This is a young team who was devastated with impactful injuries a year ago and has made notable talent upgrades in more than one key spot (Oline, pass rush, and WR). It seems pretty obvious that there's a path for this team to be significantly improved. It doesn't mean that's how it will play out, but the path is clearly out there for anyone to see who isn't clueless or doesn't have an axe to grind.
Say what you want right now but those beating relentlessly on the drum about this being a bad team could and should be called out if proven wrong.
They get called out even when they're right.
Um, it's a team website... so not exactly sure what you're expecting. There are sites in Dallas and Philly who welcome tireless negativity towards the NYG with open arms.
Calling the Giants a poor team and poorly run organization is a statement that, for a decade, is not negativity. It is fact.
I get it's a Giants site. Does that mean we have to lie about what's happening?
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Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
First, Snyder is gone and Harris is a smart guy. Second, Quinn and Kingsbury are big upgrades over Rivera and Bieniemy. Third, Daniels is much better than Howell. Even if Daniels were to have a shaky start, that team is going to respond positively to a Kingsbury led offense with Daniels at the helm. Fourth, the Commanders had the best draft in the NFL in 2024. And fifth, they had a sensational off season in terms of free agents - Ekeler, Ertz, Wagner, Biadasz, Ferrell, Fowler, Zaccheaus. Just to name a few. So yeah, I would expect it to be more difficult for the Giants to sweep them again in 2024.
Keeping his $160M man at QB, drafting said QB a lottery WR, trading high draft assets for another edge threat, adding more experienced bodies to the OL, etc, tells us that Schoen thinks this should be a double-digit win team.
Short of major injuries, that should be everyone's expectations based on those moves from our stylish, PB&J eating GM...
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Could be slightly better, could be slightly worse. But there is a good chance we will have a worse record than a year ago.
First, as it relates to the NFCE, the Commanders will be significantly better on every level. The Giants will be lucky to split this year. So that is at least one or possibly two fewer wins. I don't expect the Giants to win any of the four games against the Eagles or Cowboys, so since they split with the Eagles last year, that is possibly another fewer win. So I would expect 1-5 against the division in 2024, as compared to 3-3 last year. Maybe they win the meaningless week 18 game against the Eagles? But I would not count on it.
And second, the rest of the schedule is about the same. Yes the 2024 NFC South is easier than the 2023 NFC West, but the 2024 AFC North is more difficult than the 2023 AFC East. I would expect a 2-6 record against these two divisions. Split with the NFC South and lose all four games against the AFC North. So then it comes down to the 2024 Colts, Vikings and Seahawks v the 2023 Raiders, Packers and Saints. Sounds slightly tougher to me. Colts and Seahawks better than the Raiders and Saints, Packers better than the Vikings. So I would expect a 1-2 record against these three teams.
So this is realistically 4-13. Could it be better? Yes, a couple of upsets and some good luck could get them to 7-10 perhaps? But overall, unless miracles occur in 2024 at QB/OL/RB, this is a bottom tier NFL team.
How is Washington significantly better? They still have glaring holes on defense and OL is looking worse than Big Blue's crew. Their depth chart is really bad on the line. Still have good wide puts and you assume Daniels makes them better, but we don't know that for sure yet. Mariota is worse than Lock.
First, Snyder is gone and Harris is a smart guy. Second, Quinn and Kingsbury are big upgrades over Rivera and Bieniemy. Third, Daniels is much better than Howell. Even if Daniels were to have a shaky start, that team is going to respond positively to a Kingsbury led offense with Daniels at the helm. Fourth, the Commanders had the best draft in the NFL in 2024. And fifth, they had a sensational off season in terms of free agents - Ekeler, Ertz, Wagner, Biadasz, Ferrell, Fowler, Zaccheaus. Just to name a few. So yeah, I would expect it to be more difficult for the Giants to sweep them again in 2024.
To sum up...
All of Washington moves are upgrades and better. All of our moves were downgrades and we are worst.
Washington has been and continue to be the offseason champs and The Mike is vice president of their fan club.