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NFT: ⚾Mets vs Nats Series: Games 1 to 3 ⚾Gm 1 - 7:10 pm ET start⚾

Optimus-NY : 7/9/2024 4:41 pm
Here we go again with another series thread. The Mets are back home for the first game of what will be a 6-game homestand before the four-day All-Star Break (July 15th to the 18th). The Mets finished their road trip to D.C. & the ‘Burgh with a record of 4-4 & are going to try and make hey these next 6 home games against the Nats and Rockies. The Mets are 5-2 against the Nationals so far this season, with 6 more games to go against them overall (including this 3-game series). All 6 of the remaining games against the Nats will be at Citi Field (the first 7 were played in D.C.). The last series with the Nats will take place during the stretch-run in mid-September. A series win here is much needed. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets vs. Nationals: Game 1 –⚾Quintana (L) vs. Irvin (R)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Flushing against the Nats.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY as will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for tonight's game at Citi Field is expected to be decent most of the time, but there will be a chance of a thunderstorm & showers briefly during the mid-inning portion of the game. Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets finished their season series with the Pirates with a winning record (5-2). Drew Smith is scheduled to have season-ending elbow surgery on Friday, but he’s not sure what kind of surgery it’s going to be. Click HERE to see the tweet from Tim Healey. Smith isn’t sure if he'll need Tommy John surgery or the slightly less significant internal brace procedure. Click HERE to read an article about this issue.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Iglesias (R), & Gamel (L).
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RE: RE: Reed Garrett to IL  
Rory : 7/10/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16551237 GF1080 said:
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elbow inflammation



That sucks.


see that Cooper. Ever try to pitch with inflamed flexors and Extendors. it fkn sucks.... again, overworked.
Mets vs. Nationals: Game 2 –⚾Severino (R) vs. Corbin (L)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 4:37 pm : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Flushing against the Nats.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY as will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for tonight's game at Citi Field is expected to be good (sans yesterday’s mugginess and chance for showers & thunderstorms). Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets are back at .500 again with yesterday’s victory & are 6-2 overall against the Nats so far this season. The Mets are 4 games ahead of the Nats for 3rd place in the N.L. East, while still having two games in hand over them. Click HERE to see the standings within the division, as well as throughout MLB. The Mets are also 3 games behind the Cardinals for the last wildcard spot in the National League. Click HERE to see how the playoff picture in the National League looks as of the start of play today. The Mets play the Cardinals one last time on August 5th in St. Louis, in a make-up of a rained-out game from May. It’ll be the final game of the season between the two teams, with the Mets having won 3 of the first 5 against them so far this season. That game could be a potential tie-breaker, in case the two clubs finish the season deadlocked, so it’ll be something to keep our eyes on a little less than a month from now (after the trade deadline).

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), McNeil (L), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
Today's roster transactions so far:  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 4:41 pm : link
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07/10/24 - New York Mets placed RHP Reed Garrett on the 15-day injured list. Right elbow inflammation.

07/10/24 - New York Mets activated RHP Phil Maton.

07/10/24 - New York Mets optioned RHP Eric Orze to Syracuse Mets.

07/10/24 - New York Mets recalled LHP Danny Young from Syracuse Mets.



Mets' roster transactions for July so far - ( New Window )
Ok...  
moze1021 : 7/10/2024 4:46 pm : link
72 games left..

No reason this team shouldn't be able to go 44-28 and finish with 89 wins which should all but guarantee a playoff spot.

Just have to take it 1 series at a time and win the series.
RE: Ok...  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/10/2024 5:08 pm : link
In comment 16551300 moze1021 said:
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72 games left..

No reason this team shouldn't be able to go 44-28 and finish with 89 wins which should all but guarantee a playoff spot.

Just have to take it 1 series at a time and win the series.

RE: RE: RE: Reed Garrett to IL  
CooperDash : 7/10/2024 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16551273 Rory said:
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elbow inflammation



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see that Cooper. Ever try to pitch with inflamed flexors and Extendors. it fkn sucks.... again, overworked.


Or…he just sucks. Like every other year he’s pitched. And a pitcher that can’t be pushed. Is ever other Met pitcher with a higher workload going to go on the IL?
RE: RE: RE: Are we going to continue making excuses for Garrett?  
CooperDash : 7/10/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16551059 Rory said:
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Christopher Soto
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Reed Garrett over the last 2 months,

23 appearances
2-3, 6.26 ERA, .287 AVG/.876 OPS against

Here's the key stat

On 0 or 1 days of rest:
0-2, 7.47 ERA, .297 AVG/.954 OPS against, 29.7% K, 13.5% BB

On 2+ days of rest:
7-1, 1.37 ERA, .200 AVG/.574 OPS against, 37.3% K, 10.9% BB



seems overworked/overexposed.


Overexposed? Sure.

But also - not a good pitcher.
This bullpen better not be the reason they miss out on a playoff spot.  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 6:35 pm : link
We were chatting about options this past offseason that would have been nice additions to the club. Back then, they only cost money, but now they're gonna cost prospects. The Rays are the sisters of the poor, so the Mets could pick at their carcass with their financial strength, but that's not the normal or typical way clubs are going to be able to go about it. At least they've added Maton (RHP) who's w/the big club now and Gage (LHP) from the LAD for cash down in Triple-A. We'll prolly see Gage with the big club soon too. More needs to be done though.
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 7:07 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Nationals | 7:10 pm EDT start - July 10, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. Nationals | 7:10 pm EDT start - July 10, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Nationals' feed – MASN (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Nationals – July 10, 2024 - 7:10 pm EDT start


Note: Keith isn’t calling the game tonight.


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
Talk about a tough contract...  
dannysection 313 : 7/10/2024 7:17 pm : link
Patrick Corbin is 28-65 in the last five years.

Earnings over these five years, including this year, his last on the contract?

About 105 million...he's on the books for 25 million this year.

Nice work if you can find it...
Rory, we can both be right and both be wrong  
CooperDash : 7/10/2024 7:20 pm : link
No dispute that Garrett has had a higher workload…but, I mean, it was for like a month and a half. There’s 13 RPs that have pitched more innings than Garrett and a ton that have pitched just as many innings (or very close to) as him. Are they all hurt too because of being “overworked”?

This isn’t some great RP with a track record of success. He’s a mediocre/bad pitcher most of his career. He had a lucky month and a half - that’s it.

He started to fade on 5/22 - and he only pitched on back to back days three times through 5/22. And many times had 3 - 4 days rest between outings. This “overworked” thing is a convenient excuse, but I don’t see some poor pitcher that was abused.

MY point is that Stearns built such a poor BP that it left us with little options when some inevitable injuries happened. Garrett is just a poor pitcher that was reverting to the norm. At least, that’s my opinion.
man is Nimmo on a heater  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2024 7:22 pm : link
he deserves his first ASG. insane he's not already there.
Nimmo!!!  
Ira : 7/10/2024 7:22 pm : link
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hard to make better contact than this  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2024 7:25 pm : link
Shitty-ass Corbin shutting us down is the most Mets thing ever  
CooperDash : 7/10/2024 8:12 pm : link
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Come on Pete  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 8:36 pm : link
Gotta score there on that double
All-Star defense by Lindor!  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 9:11 pm : link
Respect!
Ok Mets fans...  
moze1021 : 7/10/2024 9:27 pm : link
I don't care how excited you are for big Jose Iglesias hits..

Doing the "Jose" chant is NOT ok. Blasphemous. That belongs to the guy who is the best Mets SS in history (for at least a couple more years until Lindor accumulates enough time...lol)

I'm bullish on Butto  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 9:35 pm : link
Dude is a good pitcher. Plain and simple.
Butto is a good pitcher. I'm glad the Mets closed it out without  
Ira : 7/10/2024 9:38 pm : link
using Diaz.
Put another one in the books!  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 9:43 pm : link

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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
RE: Ok Mets fans...  
81_Great_Dane : 7/10/2024 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16551458 moze1021 said:
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I don't care how excited you are for big Jose Iglesias hits..

Doing the "Jose" chant is NOT ok. Blasphemous. That belongs to the guy who is the best Mets SS in history (for at least a couple more years until Lindor accumulates enough time...lol)
My father told me the story of when the Yankees brought up this catcher named Lawrence Berra. Radio guy called him "Larrupin' Larry Berra." That had been Gehrig's nickname, Larrupin' Lou. So the guy ended up spending the rest of the broadcast apologizing for calling Berra "Larrupin' Larry."

Yogi was a better nickname anyway.
Cards are about to lose again. Game's in the Bot of the 9th.  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 10:17 pm : link
K.C. is up 8 to 5 now. That'd put the Cards only a game ahead of the Mets.

Nice business today. Mets win and lots of scoreboard help.  
Metnut : 7/10/2024 10:30 pm : link
Would love to see them hit a bit with an early start for once tomorrow.
Butto looked good  
KDavies : 7/10/2024 10:37 pm : link
hopeful he can be the late inning reliever they desperately need
RE: RE: Ok Mets fans...  
moze1021 : 7/10/2024 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16551474 81_Great_Dane said:
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I don't care how excited you are for big Jose Iglesias hits..

Doing the "Jose" chant is NOT ok. Blasphemous. That belongs to the guy who is the best Mets SS in history (for at least a couple more years until Lindor accumulates enough time...lol)


My father told me the story of when the Yankees brought up this catcher named Lawrence Berra. Radio guy called him "Larrupin' Larry Berra." That had been Gehrig's nickname, Larrupin' Lou. So the guy ended up spending the rest of the broadcast apologizing for calling Berra "Larrupin' Larry."

Yogi was a better nickname anyway.


Cool story!! Thanks for sharing!
Mets vs. Nationals: Game 3 – ⚾Peterson (L) vs. Gore (L)⚾ – 1:10 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 7/11/2024 11:45 am : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow in Flushing against the Nats and Rockies respectively.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on SNY as will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for today's game at Citi Field is expected to be dandy. Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-Going into today, the Mets are half a game behind the Padres for the third Wildcard spot in the N.L. & only a game and a half behind the Cardinals for the second Wildcard spot. The Mets have won 10 of their last 12 games at Citi Field—scoring 6.92 runs per game during that period—and are looking to improve their losing record at home (23-25). Strangely enough, they’ve got a better record on the road (23-20) than they do at home.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Alvarez (R), Iglesias (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
LGM  
GF1080 : 7/11/2024 12:42 pm : link
Let's get the sweep.
RE: LGM  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16551765 GF1080 said:
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Let's get the sweep.


A sweep and then at least 2/3 vs the Rockies would be great
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/11/2024 1:17 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Nationals | 1:10 pm EDT start - July 11, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (flostreams.xyz)

Mets vs. Nationals | 1:10 pm EDT start - July 11, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Nationals' feed – MASN (thestreameast.to)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Nationals – July 11, 2024 - 1:10 pm EDT start


Note: Keith isn’t calling the game today.


Enjoy today's game 😊
Peterson loves early jams but he does have a knack for getting  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 1:40 pm : link
out of them too. unimpressive at bat by all star abrams there.
what a difference in catcher defense  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 1:55 pm : link
nice having 2 guys with great arms back there. they made a really good call keeping torrens.
RE: what a difference in catcher defense  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 2:18 pm : link
In comment 16551856 Eric on Li said:
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nice having 2 guys with great arms back there. they made a really good call keeping torrens.


Agreed. Good find by them. Torrens has a weird resume. '21 had 15 HR at the age of 25, but didn't get much play after that. Didn't know much about him, but certainly looks to be an improvement on Nido.
Torrens starting the rally with a 2B  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 2:49 pm : link
Nimmo with a bases clearing double, and Martinez and Alonso with RBI singles

5-0 good guys.
good article from MLB.com  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 2:50 pm : link
on Nimmo: "He’s also – and we can prove this – coming up on being the owner of a title no one actually wants: the most underappreciated player of the post-war era."
Link - ( New Window )
So many things about this team are starting to take shape  
Chris684 : 7/11/2024 2:56 pm : link
We have a no name/lunch pail group of starters who are reliable and just seem to give you quality and get the job done.

Catcher is a position of strength both offensively and defensively.

Bench/spot starter guys like Taylor, Iglesias and Torrens seemingly provide minimal drop off from the regular guys they replace.

This team is fun and with Senga back, if the Mets solve these bullpen issues, they can be a real threat in the NL playoffs.
RE: good article from MLB.com  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16551921 KDavies said:
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on Nimmo: "He’s also – and we can prove this – coming up on being the owner of a title no one actually wants: the most underappreciated player of the post-war era." Link - ( New Window )


repost from yesterday, he is already the 8th most productive met by fwar, and with 1 more prime season he should get up to 4th. seems very likely to end his career 2nd or 3rd depending on whether or not lindor can leap frog him.

RE: So many things about this team are starting to take shape  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16551926 Chris684 said:
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We have a no name/lunch pail group of starters who are reliable and just seem to give you quality and get the job done.

Catcher is a position of strength both offensively and defensively.

Bench/spot starter guys like Taylor, Iglesias and Torrens seemingly provide minimal drop off from the regular guys they replace.

This team is fun and with Senga back, if the Mets solve these bullpen issues, they can be a real threat in the NL playoffs.


Yep, the rotation should be fine with Senga coming back.
The bullpen should be fine with maybe one majorish edition and another Maton type added, with Diaz already back and Maton and Butto added to the bullpen. An OF like Luis Robert may be a nice addition as well to take Stewart's place.
RE: RE: what a difference in catcher defense  
Mike in NY : 7/11/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16551884 KDavies said:
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nice having 2 guys with great arms back there. they made a really good call keeping torrens.



Agreed. Good find by them. Torrens has a weird resume. '21 had 15 HR at the age of 25, but didn't get much play after that. Didn't know much about him, but certainly looks to be an improvement on Nido.


Being forced to spend all of 2017 in the majors as a Rule V pick despite never having played above South Atlantic League probably played a role. Nobody really knew what they had. Not saying he is a starter, but he definitely has more potential in a platoon role than some of the others we have trotted out.
RE: So many things about this team are starting to take shape  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 3:04 pm : link
In comment 16551926 Chris684 said:
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We have a no name/lunch pail group of starters who are reliable and just seem to give you quality and get the job done.

Catcher is a position of strength both offensively and defensively.

Bench/spot starter guys like Taylor, Iglesias and Torrens seemingly provide minimal drop off from the regular guys they replace.

This team is fun and with Senga back, if the Mets solve these bullpen issues, they can be a real threat in the NL playoffs.


agree all around but you buried the lede, the offense can rake with anyone in the NL. lindor, nimmo, jdm, alonso is as good of a top 4 as they've had since 99 or 06. and it's probably deeper in the bottom half. marte went out and it's barely noticeable.

their team defense continues to improve as well, probably in large part thanks to marte being out since he was the biggest negative. what started as a statistical negative in the first 2 months is now trending to a positive.
RE: RE: RE: what a difference in catcher defense  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 3:05 pm : link
In comment 16551929 Mike in NY said:
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nice having 2 guys with great arms back there. they made a really good call keeping torrens.



Agreed. Good find by them. Torrens has a weird resume. '21 had 15 HR at the age of 25, but didn't get much play after that. Didn't know much about him, but certainly looks to be an improvement on Nido.



Being forced to spend all of 2017 in the majors as a Rule V pick despite never having played above South Atlantic League probably played a role. Nobody really knew what they had. Not saying he is a starter, but he definitely has more potential in a platoon role than some of the others we have trotted out.


Didn't realize that one. Good info.
Maton era starting nicely  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 3:07 pm : link
honestly just find 2-3 more like him and this BP can get a lot better quickly. Especially if Garrett can come back healthy and Nunez can keep doing what he's doing.
dont look now but if mets can close this one out they are just 4 wins  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 3:22 pm : link
behind atlanta. 5 in loss column.
Maton  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 3:23 pm : link
was one of the RP I most wanted in the offseason
RE: Maton  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 3:26 pm : link
In comment 16551954 DanMetroMan said:
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was one of the RP I most wanted in the offseason


50 career high leverage innings with a 3.29 fip. 90 medium leverage. the velocity probably caps the ceiling but he is an experienced late game reliever and not ancient like diekman/otto. also more consistent with walks.
RE: RE: Maton  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16551956 Eric on Li said:
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was one of the RP I most wanted in the offseason



50 career high leverage innings with a 3.29 fip. 90 medium leverage. the velocity probably caps the ceiling but he is an experienced late game reliever and not ancient like diekman/otto. also more consistent with walks.


21.2 career innings in the playoffs 0.83 era
clear non-contenders are  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 3:29 pm : link
White Sox, A's, Angels, Rockies, Marlins. Angels and Marlins seem to be the best realistic trading options, as I don't consider Mason Miller a realistic option.

Priority bullpen wise would be Tanner Scott. Lefty. 1.42 ERA this year, 2.31 ERA last year. FA after this year. Would be instant set-up man. Would a Parada/Vasil package be enough?

Other guys I'd look at would with the Angels would be Carlos Estevez (pending FA), and old friend Hunter Strickland who is having a resurgence this year and could likely be had for a Maton type return (though has 42 appearances already)
RE: RE: RE: Maton  
KDavies : 7/11/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16551961 DanMetroMan said:
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was one of the RP I most wanted in the offseason



50 career high leverage innings with a 3.29 fip. 90 medium leverage. the velocity probably caps the ceiling but he is an experienced late game reliever and not ancient like diekman/otto. also more consistent with walks.



21.2 career innings in the playoffs 0.83 era


Wow!
nunez getting the garrett treatment  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2024 3:31 pm : link
28 innings in 19 appearances as a met. plus 13 more innings at cuse.

6th appearance in 11 days of july. 2 of them back to backs. was off yesterday though.
Just  
DanMetroMan : 7/11/2024 3:32 pm : link
looked it up

Ladies and gentleman, your active career post-season era leader amongst RP's (20 innings or more) Phil Maton (0.83). Nearly 1/2 a runner better than #2 (Tyler Matzek) #Mets
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