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More dumbness from Lombardi

BlackLight : 7/10/2024 2:11 pm
"Why didn't the Giants ask Daniel Jones to take a 10 million pay cut, earned back with roster game incentives to then Franchise Barkely? Why is Jones's base salary untouchable?"

If you're going to make that ask of your QB, you better have at least a carrot, if not a stick, and preferably both.

Given that the Giants had no stick to threaten Jones with, what does Lombardi think the Giants should've offered Jones to take this offer?
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There are so many stupid people  
Thegratefulhead : 7/10/2024 2:14 pm : link
That believe the Giants have the same opinion of Jones that they do, Lombardi is just reaching out to them for clicks and impressions. Low hanging fruit. People that hate, click. It is proven.

Look at the Giants actions.

Lay off the sauce, their belief is transparent.
we're seeing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/10/2024 2:15 pm : link
why Lombardi isn't a GM. In order to force a paycut, you have to have leverage. The Giants can't cut Jones right now. They have no leverage.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/10/2024 2:18 pm : link
Did a Mara bed his wife or something?
This whole paying Jones paying Barkley is misunderstood  
UberAlias : 7/10/2024 2:21 pm : link
NYG overpaid Jones, but the basic point is absolutely correct. They are building an offense that is pass first. They will move on from Jones in time, but they are never going to build an offense around a running back.
Lombardi  
Trainmaster : 7/10/2024 2:27 pm : link
is the poster child for "disgruntled hacks".

He very likely will never sniff an NFL front office job, so being a contrarian blowhard is all he has.

.....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 7/10/2024 2:28 pm : link
People's take on Barkley works as an IQ test.

Giving a 27 year old running back a second contract with a big guarantees rarely works out.

Surprised the Eagles made the move - was the last running back FA they paid this kind of money to Demarco Murray?
Maybe they offered $10M  
90.Cal : 7/10/2024 2:32 pm : link
But he jumped ship just to get $12.5M…
Why would Jones do that? Were they going to extend him or  
Blue21 : 7/10/2024 2:55 pm : link
Something? Why tie yourself further to his contract at this point? Lombardi is losing any credibility he has left .
RE: we're seeing  
k2tampa : 7/10/2024 3:23 pm : link
In comment 16551134 Eric from BBI said:
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why Lombardi isn't a GM. In order to force a paycut, you have to have leverage. The Giants can't cut Jones right now. They have no leverage.


Exactly. You need leverage or be willing to add a year with more guaranteed money.
RE: Lombardi  
Optimus-NY : 7/10/2024 3:27 pm : link
In comment 16551154 Trainmaster said:
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is the poster child for "disgruntled hacks".

He very likely will never sniff an NFL front office job, so being a contrarian blowhard is all he has.


Pretty much
Lombardi trying to share credit with Belichick and Newsome  
bceagle05 : 7/10/2024 3:39 pm : link
for the foundation that was laid in Cleveland/Baltimore reminds me of this meme….

Yeah man  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2024 3:40 pm : link
why don’t all GMs ask all players to take pay cuts? Idiots.
Jones has 36 Mil in guaranteed salary this year  
Dankbeerman : 7/10/2024 3:50 pm : link
Cant give any of that back just add more dead money going forward.
Could you imagine  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 7/10/2024 4:09 pm : link
what would happen to this forum if the Giants somehow re-worked Daniel Jones contract to give him even a penny of more guaranteed money? That's basically what Lombardi is saying to do. Unless he is so obtuse as to say that Daniel Jones agent would be the first in history to advise his client to "do the right thing for the team" and just forfeit money.

Either way- 0.0 chance

RE: Jones has 36 Mil in guaranteed salary this year  
RCPhoenix : 7/10/2024 5:01 pm : link
In comment 16551265 Dankbeerman said:
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Cant give any of that back just add more dead money going forward.


This - does Lombardi not understand math?
the leverage the Giants had  
BigBlueCane : 7/10/2024 5:12 pm : link
was that no one else in the league would willingly pay Jones what he would earn even after a paycut.

RE: There are so many stupid people  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/10/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16551131 Thegratefulhead said:
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That believe the Giants have the same opinion of Jones that they do

On this we agree, kinda.
RE: the leverage the Giants had  
bceagle05 : 7/10/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16551316 BigBlueCane said:
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was that no one else in the league would willingly pay Jones what he would earn even after a paycut.

That’s only relevant if the Giants could actually release him if he refused the pay cut, and they’re in no position to do that right now given the cap ramifications.
The only change  
Reale01 : 7/10/2024 5:32 pm : link
Might be to the injury guarantee. i think he may allow it to be adjusted in exchange for not sitting him at some point. Lets hope he plays well and it does not happen.
I can't get back  
WillieYoung : 7/10/2024 5:52 pm : link
the 15 minutes I spent reading this thread.
RE: I can't get back  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/10/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16551340 WillieYoung said:
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the 15 minutes I spent reading this thread.

Can't hurt to try.
Wouldn’t the leverage have been drafting QB at 6?  
HardTruth : 7/10/2024 6:29 pm : link
Since Saquon and his FA occurred before the draft?
“Daniel, we need you to take a pay cut!”  
Mike from Ohio : 7/10/2024 7:48 pm : link
“No.”

“Well, shit guys, I tried. What now?”
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