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| Former NFL cornerback Patrick Peterson isn’t impressed with what he’s seen from New York Giants cornerback Daniel Jones. Peterson, a 13-year NFL veteran with three first-team All-Pro honors and eight Pro Bowl berths to his name, commented on his All Things Covered podcast in which former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs guested. "I had an opportunity to play against Daniel Jones a couple times — ain’t nothing impressive about him to a defense," Peterson said. "He’s big and strong, but he hasn’t shown us arm talent, like, crazy arm talent." Peterson didn’t stop there, pivoting his criticism of Jones to the quarterback’s mental processing ability after the ball was snapped. "He’s shown an inability to read defenses quickly, to get the ball out quickly, and I just think he has a problem dissecting the 11 guys on defense," Peterson said. "His process is too slow to excel as a great NFL quarterback. He has talent. He has all the measurables. It just not coming together on the football field." |
Jones is very athletic, big and strong and has good but not elite arm talent that seems to struggle processing and reading defenses after the snap. That weakness seems to lead to less than ideal choices at times.
To me, that is a fair analysis. I hope Jones can both stay healthy and improve in the processing side of things this year, if that assessment is accurate. (I'm not doubting Peterson's ability to analyze I just don't know enough to state that as fact myself).
Hopefully, this doesn't upset company man Carl Banks too much and he starts a fight on X.
But it doesn’t matter what is said or what could have been. We’ll see what he is able to do this year then they will make a decision based on that information.
Hopefully, this doesn't upset company man Carl Banks too much and he starts a fight on X.
Banks on Twitter is the IQ equivalent of one of those roll back the prices graphics in car commercials.
Familiar Jones' INT. Comes under pressure when Evan Neal loses his man and he gets rid of the ball without really seeing that the play is there to be made.
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The fact that an aging Peterson was playing for a horrendous defense at the end of his career doesn't invalidate his perspective.
My sentiments exactly.
A lot of players have said this. Seahawks and Eagles. Go back to the Seattle game last year from the rookie CB.
Drives me crazy!!!!
But he and his DB's were smoked in 2022 and twice by DJ - one earning a playoff victory.
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when the guy had the best game of his career playing against you, on the road, in the playoffs, you might consider your words a bit...
I see the Jones fans are going to ignore the other times Peterson played against Jones
You are if you use it to try to diminish his point, while also ignoring the two games against Peterson prior to that.
But…but…but… what about the Senior Bowl?!?
I still think Jones is in the wrong sport. I think he might have been a phenomenal decathlete. I said the same thing about Evan Engram.
Well, a less heralded player, Devon Witherspoon, a rookie at the time, expressed how predictable Jones was to defend. And had a pick six to prove it.
Would you find him more credible?
lol I was just going to say this. Two of his best games in 2022 against Minnesota and Mr. Peterson.... lol
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When they faced the Giants in 2022
lol I was just going to say this. Two of his best games in 2022 against Minnesota and Mr. Peterson.... lol
So would he be wrong if he said Mac Jones and Mike White also aren't very good QBs? After all they also torched the 22 Vikes defense
Jones that we saw under Shurmur was a risk taking decisive mutha. Judge just shattered him into a million pieces and he hasn't really ever recovered.
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When they faced the Giants in 2022
lol I was just going to say this. Two of his best games in 2022 against Minnesota and Mr. Peterson.... lol
So would he be wrong if he said Mac Jones and Mike White also aren't very good QBs? After all they also torched the 22 Vikes defense
I didn't say he was wrong or right, and personally I don't even care. But it's fucking hilarious that two really strong games where the guy making the comment and his defense were torched by who he's making the comment about.
But it doesn’t matter what is said or what could have been. We’ll see what he is able to do this year then they will make a decision based on that information.
I sort of agree too. Peterson's summary: "His process is too slow to excel as a great NFL quarterback. He has talent. He has all the measurables. It just not coming together on the football field."
But he doesn't have to be great to win a SB; he has to be good and have some great games at the right time, as he's already demonstrated. Only a handful of teams have great QBs -- it's a big advantage but it's neither necessary or sufficient.
Also, that wasn't an issue in school or as a rookie; for example, in the linked NFL draft profile:
Quick worker through progressions. Early recognition of deep ball opportunities and feathers throws into the target.
I don't see evidence it's an innate or insoluble problem, and some (possibly very large) percentage is his targets.
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Thin in his lower body. Had 12 passes batted down at line of scrimmage in 2018. Benefitted from heavy play-action/RPO scheme. Incessant patting of the ball through progressions. Waits an extra step before cutting it loose too often. Average release speed slowed by small windup. Attempts throws into some impossible windows. Needs to work ahead of schedule more often on next level. Succumbs to off-platform tosses rather than working into better positioning. Showed willingness to throw it up for grabs rather than take sack. Loose ball handling in face of pressure leads to fumbles. Too much bravado as a runner. Took licks when slides or dashes out of bounds were options.
It seems like he's over corrected on a number of fronts and not corrected others.
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Thin in his lower body. Had 12 passes batted down at line of scrimmage in 2018. Benefitted from heavy play-action/RPO scheme. Incessant patting of the ball through progressions. Waits an extra step before cutting it loose too often. Average release speed slowed by small windup. Attempts throws into some impossible windows. Needs to work ahead of schedule more often on next level. Succumbs to off-platform tosses rather than working into better positioning. Showed willingness to throw it up for grabs rather than take sack. Loose ball handling in face of pressure leads to fumbles. Too much bravado as a runner. Took licks when slides or dashes out of bounds were options.
It seems like he's over corrected on a number of fronts and not corrected others.
Indeed
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Weaknesses
Thin in his lower body. Had 12 passes batted down at line of scrimmage in 2018. Benefitted from heavy play-action/RPO scheme. Incessant patting of the ball through progressions. Waits an extra step before cutting it loose too often. Average release speed slowed by small windup. Attempts throws into some impossible windows. Needs to work ahead of schedule more often on next level. Succumbs to off-platform tosses rather than working into better positioning. Showed willingness to throw it up for grabs rather than take sack. Loose ball handling in face of pressure leads to fumbles. Too much bravado as a runner. Took licks when slides or dashes out of bounds were options.
It seems like he's over corrected on a number of fronts and not corrected others.
As was David Te's
Dave Te Scouting Report on Daniel Jones - ( New Window )
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When they faced the Giants in 2022
lol I was just going to say this. Two of his best games in 2022 against Minnesota and Mr. Peterson.... lol
So would he be wrong if he said Mac Jones and Mike White also aren't very good QBs? After all they also torched the 22 Vikes defense
I didn't say he was wrong or right, and personally I don't even care. But it's fucking hilarious that two really strong games where the guy making the comment and his defense were torched by who he's making the comment about.
You should look up Jones’ games vs Peterson and the Cardinals in 2019 and 2020
He has a great year and ours all those critiques to bed ok. But if he's ok cut him.
No need to over pay for mediocrity
I'd like to ask Peterson just how many"great" QBs are there in the NFL. IMO about 4-7. The words great and phrase "franchise QB" are meaningless w average guys getting that label way to often
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If you cite facts about the last time they both met.
You are if you use it to try to diminish his point, while also ignoring the two games against Peterson prior to that.
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Isn't sharing anything new."
I recognize the flaws and deficiencies. It's also short sighted to ignore the defenses Peterson played a part of whiie said struggling QB stomped over those units. It doesn't make somebody a homer for it.