Hip-Drop Tackle: New Penalty the 2024 NFL Season

That's where they are going with all these rule changes.

Screw the NFL.

Similar to flagrant fouls in the NBA and major penalties in the NHL.

They happen way too fast and are way too subjective to be left up to on the field calls.

(1) grab offensive player with both arms;

(2) drop hips to pull down offensive player; and

(3) landing on and trapping the runner’s leg(s) at or below the knee.

Many tackles will involve the first two parts, but probably not so many will include the third.

Agreed.

In comment 16551810 NBGblue said:

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(1) grab offensive player with both arms; (2) drop hips to pull down offensive player; and (3) landing on and trapping the runner’s leg(s) at or below the knee. Many tackles will involve the first two parts, but probably not so many will include the third.

season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed.

In comment 16551793 Red Dog said:

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That's where they are going with all these rule changes. Screw the NFL.

I take it that you don't trust the NFL's view that the hip-drop tackle is harmful and dangerous.

I have been watching pro football for many decades. I do not trust NFL officials to get calls on this right, or the league to intervene to correct them when necessary.

Also, NFL rules are in a long progression of softening up the game. Today's game is already two hand touch compared to what it was a couple of decades ago.

In comment 16551908 Red Dog said:

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I have been watching pro football for many decades. I do not trust NFL officials to get calls on this right, or the league to intervene to correct them when necessary. Also, NFL rules are in a long progression of softening up the game. Today's game is already two hand touch compared to what it was a couple of decades ago.

Alright. Just because things were done a certain way yesterday does not mean they were good. I don't necessarily trust the NFL or anyone organization with that much power, but getting rid of the hip-drop tackle seems like a good idea to help protect the players from severe injuries from a non-necessary form of tackling.

Against the Eagles. I think it was McCloud who took down AJ Brown with a hip drop tackle that sent Brown to the tent. I believe he played the following week so he wasn't severely injured but it sure looked like it at the time. The announcers were talking about the tackle and said McCloud did not land on his legs so it wouldn't have qualified for the rule change this season but watching it in real time, I c certainly would not feel confident that refs would get that call correctly on the field. This is going to be a subject of some debate at least half the time this gets called in a game.

In comment 16551894 BigBlueBuff said:

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season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed.

This.

With that said, this is the correct response. However, the reason this is even an issue anymore is because you can't hit on defense anymore. The hip drop tackle really evolved from the other rules against tackling.

it's the referee's call on the field. How many roughing the passer penalties are there where the defensive player barely breathes on the QB? How many pass interference penalties where somebody actually makes a good play? How many holding penalties where there wasn't any holding?

In comment 16551894 BigBlueBuff said:

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season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed.

Yeah, it won't be a problem when you can't tackle a guy from behind. The only way to do it now, unless you're faster than the ballcarrier, is to dive for his knees. That isn't dangerous. Can't wait to see some 290 pound DE chasing Jones out of the pocket dive into the back of his legs.

In comment 16552105 k2tampa said:

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In comment 16551894 BigBlueBuff said: Quote: season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed. Yeah, it won't be a problem when you can't tackle a guy from behind. The only way to do it now, unless you're faster than the ballcarrier, is to dive for his knees. That isn't dangerous. Can't wait to see some 290 pound DE chasing Jones out of the pocket dive into the back of his legs.

Can't hit a QB that low...

In comment 16552105 k2tampa said:

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In comment 16551894 BigBlueBuff said: Quote: season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed. Yeah, it won't be a problem when you can't tackle a guy from behind. The only way to do it now, unless you're faster than the ballcarrier, is to dive for his knees. That isn't dangerous. Can't wait to see some 290 pound DE chasing Jones out of the pocket dive into the back of his legs.

That's not at all how a hip tackle works. You can still tackle a guy from behind, you just can't use your bodyweight to land on their legs. If you think it can't be done, watch a rugby match. They banned hip drop and tackle from behind all the time.

In steer wrestling also.🙃

a $100,000 Corvette.

When a team owner invests tens of millions of dollars in a player, he doesn't want the paint scratched.

In comment 16552120 section125 said:

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In comment 16552105 k2tampa said: Quote: In comment 16551894 BigBlueBuff said: Quote: season at FSU last year. Good riddance, and like the horse collar it won’t be missed. Yeah, it won't be a problem when you can't tackle a guy from behind. The only way to do it now, unless you're faster than the ballcarrier, is to dive for his knees. That isn't dangerous. Can't wait to see some 290 pound DE chasing Jones out of the pocket dive into the back of his legs. Can't hit a QB that low...

You can when he leaves the pocket. And of course that doesn't help RBs and receivers.

He knew how to tackle. Lots of tackles from behind, but 90% of the time he would turn the player sideways so he landed on the ground behind the ball carrier (“spooning”, if you would). IMO, drop hip tackles are by untrained, lazy tacklers.

In comment 16553500 pivo said:

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He knew how to tackle. Lots of tackles from behind, but 90% of the time he would turn the player sideways so he landed on the ground behind the ball carrier (“spooning”, if you would). IMO, drop hip tackles are by untrained, lazy tacklers.

Hip drop….

In comment 16553500 pivo said:

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He knew how to tackle. Lots of tackles from behind, but 90% of the time he would turn the player sideways so he landed on the ground behind the ball carrier (“spooning”, if you would). IMO, drop hip tackles are by untrained, lazy tacklers.

I have said for a long time LTs tackling may have been vicious, but it was clean by most of today's standards. The only difference may be some would be considered late hits now.

In comment 16551795 Mellowmood92 said:

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Similar to flagrant fouls in the NBA and major penalties in the NHL. They happen way too fast and are way too subjective to be left up to on the field calls.

I like this.