NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th

I'll post that early NY time on Monday, after the Rockies series. We can just shoot the breeze there for four days in lieu of a series. Draft stuff will be on this thread though and minor league stuff will be on the minors thread for July, as usual.

We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am

The names linked to them id least like Culpepper. Yeah, he’d be under slot but he seems like a future utility player. Very limited realistic upside.

In comment 16552895 DanMetroMan said:

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The names linked to them id least like Culpepper. Yeah, he’d be under slot but he seems like a future utility player. Very limited realistic upside.

What do you think about Seaver King from Wake Forest Dan?

In comment 16552905 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16552895 DanMetroMan said: Quote: The names linked to them id least like Culpepper. Yeah, he’d be under slot but he seems like a future utility player. Very limited realistic upside. What do you think about Seaver King from Wake Forest Dan?

If they go college bat he’s one of my favorites. Walk rate is a concern but he also doesn’t swing at many pitches out of the zone. Outstanding athlete. Some think he’s moving to CF, others like him at SS. I’d like that pick quite a bit. Culpepper was the only name I’ve seen connected with them I wouldn’t be enthusiastic about.

Mainly because he has hit well with wood bats. I would also see if someone like Slade Caldwell is willing to take below slot to go at 19 because it looks like he is falling to supplemental area. At that area you are talking about sub $3M. Would he be willing to swing a deal with the Mets for like $3.8M (~22nd pick money) which would save the Mets $400,000 plus the overslot of 4.99% on that pick (which is about another $210,500)?

Perhaps Dan or some of the knowledgeable locals could share how the MLB prospect development process affects drafting strategy, in terms of success rates at different positions, transferable or teachable skills, age etc?

With the NFL draft we talk about BPA vs needs, can a player start right away or need a year or two in a professional weight room, or time to adjust to the pro game. Also rookie contracts are only 4 years before all but the first rounders reach free agency. Baseball has many more years of control, right? So you can develop a prospect for what, 4-5 years before calling up, then control for a bunch more before his mlb service time earns him arbitration then eventually free agency?

I have a vague understanding of the 40 man roster and the Rule 5 draft, but in general, having more time to develop your draftees would seem to make it seem more important to have good organizational support, coaching and fitness training, and drafting prospects with certain tools instead of mlb ready contributors?

Also, I’ve read talk of trading prospects for veteran bullpen help. It initially seemed to me be expensive to deal an inexpensive everyday player with loads of potential for a one year rental of a situational pitcher, but is that because of the huge uncertainty of a prospects success at the pro level? Is the success rate less predictable than for NFL prospects do you think?

And finally, is it naive or overly simplistic to think loading up on pitching prospects saves the organization money down the line? Are they bigger risks?

Thanks in advance!

In comment 16552929 HopePhil and Optimistic said:

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Perhaps Dan or some of the knowledgeable locals could share how the MLB prospect development process affects drafting strategy, in terms of success rates at different positions, transferable or teachable skills, age etc? With the NFL draft we talk about BPA vs needs, can a player start right away or need a year or two in a professional weight room, or time to adjust to the pro game. Also rookie contracts are only 4 years before all but the first rounders reach free agency. Baseball has many more years of control, right? So you can develop a prospect for what, 4-5 years before calling up, then control for a bunch more before his mlb service time earns him arbitration then eventually free agency? I have a vague understanding of the 40 man roster and the Rule 5 draft, but in general, having more time to develop your draftees would seem to make it seem more important to have good organizational support, coaching and fitness training, and drafting prospects with certain tools instead of mlb ready contributors? Also, I’ve read talk of trading prospects for veteran bullpen help. It initially seemed to me be expensive to deal an inexpensive everyday player with loads of potential for a one year rental of a situational pitcher, but is that because of the huge uncertainty of a prospects success at the pro level? Is the success rate less predictable than for NFL prospects do you think? And finally, is it naive or overly simplistic to think loading up on pitching prospects saves the organization money down the line? Are they bigger risks? Thanks in advance!

MLB Draft is more akin to NHL Draft versus NFL. In the NFL you are getting pro ready players who have competed against competition that generally include NFL talent playing pro schemes. MLB (and NHL) is much more about projection. Outside of the Paul Skenes's of the game, you just are not facing guys in college or definitely High School anywhere close to MLB caliber. In MLB you are lucky if 20-25% of your draft picks ever play a major league game (that includes guys who have a cup of coffee). Compare that to the NFL Draft where good teams can have the overwhelming majority of a draft playing a role on the team.

In comment 16552937 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16552929 HopePhil and Optimistic said: Quote: Perhaps Dan or some of the knowledgeable locals could share how the MLB prospect development process affects drafting strategy, in terms of success rates at different positions, transferable or teachable skills, age etc? With the NFL draft we talk about BPA vs needs, can a player start right away or need a year or two in a professional weight room, or time to adjust to the pro game. Also rookie contracts are only 4 years before all but the first rounders reach free agency. Baseball has many more years of control, right? So you can develop a prospect for what, 4-5 years before calling up, then control for a bunch more before his mlb service time earns him arbitration then eventually free agency? I have a vague understanding of the 40 man roster and the Rule 5 draft, but in general, having more time to develop your draftees would seem to make it seem more important to have good organizational support, coaching and fitness training, and drafting prospects with certain tools instead of mlb ready contributors? Also, I’ve read talk of trading prospects for veteran bullpen help. It initially seemed to me be expensive to deal an inexpensive everyday player with loads of potential for a one year rental of a situational pitcher, but is that because of the huge uncertainty of a prospects success at the pro level? Is the success rate less predictable than for NFL prospects do you think? And finally, is it naive or overly simplistic to think loading up on pitching prospects saves the organization money down the line? Are they bigger risks? Thanks in advance! MLB Draft is more akin to NHL Draft versus NFL. In the NFL you are getting pro ready players who have competed against competition that generally include NFL talent playing pro schemes. MLB (and NHL) is much more about projection. Outside of the Paul Skenes's of the game, you just are not facing guys in college or definitely High School anywhere close to MLB caliber. In MLB you are lucky if 20-25% of your draft picks ever play a major league game (that includes guys who have a cup of coffee). Compare that to the NFL Draft where good teams can have the overwhelming majority of a draft playing a role on the team.

Thanks Mike! Wow, 20-25%? That would imply low emotional investment from a fans perspective.

MMO WEEKLY EPISODE 87: MLB DRAFT FEATURING MATT MANCUSO | Posted by Sal Manzo | Jul 13, 2024 | MMO.com


VIDEO's below:

MMO's Matt Mancuso Joins The Show | MMO Weekly 2024 Ep 87

Carlos hearing significant chatter that @mets are targeting Vance Honeycutt at #19

School: North Carolina Commit/Drafted: Giants ’21 (20)
Age At Draft: 21.2
BA Grade: 55/Extreme
Tools: Hit: 40. Power: 55. Run: 65. Field: 70. Arm: 60.

Honeycutt was a relatively under-the-radar player when he got to campus at North Carolina in 2022, but he quickly made a name for himself after hitting 25 home runs and stealing 29 bases as a freshman. Three years later, Honeycutt stands as UNC’s all-time home run leader with 61 deep flies. In 2024, he became the first Division I player to hit more than 60 homers and steal more than 70 bases in a career. Pair that power-speed combination with Honeycutt’s excellent athleticism and defensive prowess in center field and you have one of the most dynamic and high-upside players in the class. The fact that a 6-foot-3, 205-pound center fielder with his physical tools and production in the Atlantic Coast Conference isn’t viewed at the very top of the class speaks to the questions present in his offensive profile. Honeycutt has oscillated between a highly productive hitter with loads of strikeouts and one who can reign in the whiffs but at the cost of his power output. He hit over .300 for the first time in his career in 2024, though that came with a 28% strikeout rate. He has significant contact questions, particularly against secondary stuff. Honeycutt’s at-bats lead scouts to wonder about his pitch recognition at times, but he’s as capable as anyone of hammering a mistake pitch out of the park to left field or right-center. Honeycutt comes with real risk but should have enough potential to dream on to earn a first-round selection.

Scouting Report
Bats: R, Throws: R
Honeycutt is a 70 defender with 70 power, but even with a midseason swing change to raise his hands, he still struck out too often — even whiffing in-zone — to be a first-rounder for me. He takes a solid stride but doesn’t plant that front leg strongly until well after he’s gotten his hands started, so he ends up with a pretty severe uppercut on far too many of his swings. When he does get the front leg down in time and stays more upright through contact, though, it’s easy power even to dead center.

His bigger issue is pitch and ball/strike recognition, as he swung and missed on nearly a third of the pitches he saw, including a 21 percent whiff rate on pitches in the zone. It’s 30-homer potential in a potentially elite defender in center — I’ve had scouts say he’s at least as good as 2023 first-rounder Enrique Bradfield Jr., on defense — so there’s clear appeal for a team looking for high upside. He’s a project for the right player development department.

How does he rank on your list of guys you'd like the Mets to draft?

In comment 16553156 Optimus-NY said:

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Bat carries *significant* risk but there is also no denying the upside is there for him to be a + CF with 30+ homers, likely carrying a lowish average. He's not the proverbial "remote throw" pick, but I do have reservations in regard to the Mets being the team to "fix him". More than one scout questioned his ability to his/pick up spin and that's not a simple fix. Longenhagen doesn't even have Honeycutt going round 1 because of the swing/pitch recognition issues.

#42 ranked prospect for him

TLDR
Full Report
Honeycutt is a power/speed center field prospect with hit tool risk. He posted a .293/.412/.638 career line with 27% K% as a junior. Honeycutt has the speed for center and looked more comfortable going into the gaps and at the catch point in 2024. There are real question marks on offense. The stiff, deep, low load of his hands when he swings leaves him vulnerable to high heat. A swing change might remedy this but there are also breaking ball recognition issues here; Honeycutt had a 56% contact rate against sliders in 2024. Tons of hit tool risk has me lower on Honeycutt than one might expect given his college career. He has the physical tools to break out if his swing is overhauled.

do you always go BPA vs Organizational needs? Or does it vary by round?

In comment 16553168 Rob in Rockaway said:
[quote] do you always go BPA vs Organizational needs? Or does it vary by round? [/quote}


It's essentially a puzzle. You have X pool room, with slotted money for the first 10 rounds and you do what you can to get the most value for that pool. Teams generally do not draft for organizational need beyond every team needing pitching at all times.

In comment 16553168 Rob in Rockaway said:

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do you always go BPA vs Organizational needs? Or does it vary by round?

always BPA, though there is a financial budgeting aspect to every pick. each team gets overall draft pool of $ that they can spend however they want.

so if you want to spend a lot of it on 1 or 2 big names for 2-4m you can do that.

or you can spread it out and sign 4-5 guys at 1m.

and a lot of times players/teams can sort of engineer themselves together by their pre-draft negotiations. if a team hints to an agent they like a player so much they will pay more, that players agent can act more difficult with other teams who may choose other players who are more easily signable. HS players or early college enrollees can use the leverage of not signing and going to college to make teams offer bigger signing bonuses or risk losing them.

so teams/players have a lot more influence on who they get in the draft ahead of time than the NFL, NHL, or NBA where the individual picks are pretty simple - take the guy you like most or trade the pick. in MLB it's a little more pre-ordained by both sides.

with IFA signings, the Mets have Alvarez, drafted Parada and yet still gave out their 2 biggest bonuses the last 2 seasons to catchers. Their top IFA signing next year is a SS (they have Lindor, Houck (their first pick last season), Jett Williams, Acuna etc). Obviously, teams target specific traits/types of players they think they can develop but drafting for need isn't really an MLB draft thing.

In comment 16553175 DanMetroMan said:

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with IFA signings, the Mets have Alvarez, drafted Parada and yet still gave out their 2 biggest bonuses the last 2 seasons to catchers. Their top IFA signing next year is a SS (they have Lindor, Houck (their first pick last season), Jett Williams, Acuna etc). Obviously, teams target specific traits/types of players they think they can develop but drafting for need isn't really an MLB draft thing.

this may just be some blowback from parada/houck/ginn/allen, but i think im actually leaning more towards the strategy of one day trying the 4-5 $1m guys - which you can probably only do by taking someone under slot in the 1st round by $1m+.

like obviously they liked sproat a lot to take him high 2 years in a row and ultimately paid him 1.4m i think. tidwell got paid similar the year before. id have to really love 1 player a lot to give them 2-3m, vs getting 1 extra sproat type player.

houck - 2.75m
sproat - 1.475m
mclean - 747k
morris - 666k
ewing - 675k
baro - 700k

if you take $1m from houck by picking someone lesser, or even more let's say they overdrafted ewing or baro and gave them $1m.

they could have had 1.75m to try to add 1 or 2 more sproats they liked who possibly went back to college because they were looking for but didnt get $1m+.

obviously it's probably not easy to identify more sproats or everyone would do it, but i think that would be my strategy unless i really loved whoever the 1st round pick was.

and 6 with 666k+. they had a total budget of $8,440,400 so those 6 = ~$7m and 83% of the budget.

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to this thread. Gonna be an interesting first day for the Mets. Wish we had the 7th pick though damn it!!

In comment 16553207 Optimus-NY said:

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to this thread. Gonna be an interesting first day for the Mets. Wish we had the 7th pick though damn it!!

that lottery broadcast where we got faked out into thinking we got a top 5 pick still really annoys me.

In comment 16553270 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16553207 Optimus-NY said: Quote: to this thread. Gonna be an interesting first day for the Mets. Wish we had the 7th pick though damn it!! that lottery broadcast where we got faked out into thinking we got a top 5 pick still really annoys me.

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Dude! I remember that $hit. Ugh!

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I prefer him to Honeycutt, even though he doesn't have the power/speed Honeycutt does. Hit tool a lot better. As I've aged, I've really become a hit tool guy. I think it's all the years of being burned by toolset guys like Milledge and Escobar.

Probably a lower ceiling than Honeycutt, but Honeycutt is just a red flag on the hit tool. 2nd round? Sure, but he's one rumored target that I have serious reservations about

WHAT THE MOCK DRAFT ARE SAYING THE METS WILL DO AT NO. 19 - Posted by Jack Ramsey | Jul 14, 2024 - MMO.com

Honeycutt seems to be a popular name to Mets at 19.

Preview is on now with Buck as part of the crew: Catch Day 1 of the MLB Draft -- featuring the first 74 picks -- live from Fort Worth, Texas.

In comment 16553270 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16553207 Optimus-NY said: Quote: to this thread. Gonna be an interesting first day for the Mets. Wish we had the 7th pick though damn it!! that lottery broadcast where we got faked out into thinking we got a top 5 pick still really annoys me.

Yeah, I am still steamed about how that shit-show turned out.

They won a few meaningless games in September and screwed things up for this Lottery.

I just hope they get a few decent pitching prospects out of this Draft. Pitching is expensive. And good, healthy Pitching is very expensive.

One is for ESPN and the other is for MLB Network.

2024 MLB Draft - ESPN feed - 7 pm EDT start (strfish.xyz)

2024 MLB Draft - MLB Network feed - 7 pm EDT start (mlb.com)

This was also listed above, but I'm listing it below again now for the sake of convenience (there's a lot to wade through up above, lol).

2024 DRAFT TRACKER - Sorted by round - MLB.com

Was hoping he'd be there at 19 for the Mets to decide on.

Yesavage (great name)
Caminiti
Schmidt
Benge
Sloan
White
Brecht
Honeycut

think a lot of these names linked with mets?

I doubt that they expected Yesavage or Caminiti to be there

if mets are in that group then probably one of the college hitters Benge, White, Honeycutt, Walschmidt?

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Mike Mayer
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With the 19th overall pick in the 2024 draft the Mets take two-way player Carson Benge from Oklahoma State.

Let's see what they do. Who do you guys want?

Carson Benge
OF
OKLAHOMA STATE
DOB:
01-20-2003
Height:
6-1
Weight:
184

Scouting Report
Bats: L, Throws: R
Benge is a tremendous athlete who also pitched in relief for the Cowboys, with his pro future in the batter’s box because he has great bat speed, makes excellent swing decisions, and produces hard contact. His swing is slappy, though, and he meets the ball out front too often, with relatively low launch angles as a result, making him a great target for a team that has had success helping guys who can really hit turn that into more line-drive contact. He did hit 18 homers this spring, but, well, so did half the players in Division I.

He’s a strong defender in right with a plus arm who was 93-95 out of the bullpen with a plus curveball, so there’s always the fallback option of putting him on the mound if his bat doesn’t develop as hoped.

O'Dowd has him with 60 hit, 55 power, 60 field, 55 run

Comp as Nick Markakis

so im in. i like getting getting a 2 way player who can focus on one side going forward. in zone whiff is very low and apparently that cant be taught per kiley.

sounds like a solid pick.

conversations ended with all of them pretty high on benge.

so a lot of room for growth as well. More walks than Ks in his college career

so that comp gets me excited

Bella Geskos
@isabella_geskos

Vance Honeycutt’s best chance right now is with the O’s I’m being told. But it is possible he could fall out of the first round entirely which would be shocking #MLBDraft

8:49 PM · Jul 14, 2024 ·223 Views

Bella Geskos @isabella_geskos - 8:49 PM · Jul 14, 2024 · 223 Views

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I don't know who this is btw. I just saw it on the MMO thread I linked previously in this thread.

I would hope he either develops more power if he stays as a corner OFer or can take over CF if he doesn't to fit the prototypes for those positions, but the scouting report looks good (since I knew very little about him).

They're talking about him being the most polarizing player in the draft now on ESPN.

In comment 16553445 Optimus-NY said:

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They're talking about him being the most polarizing player in the draft now on ESPN.

That makes sense, because he's got high upside but high bust potential.

Caminiti to Atlanta

goes 19th. pretty solid work.

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no idea but it sounds like a slot pick. went right around where ranked, not a HS player.

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Anyone got an opinion on what the Mets should or will do?

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Joe DeMayo
@PSLToFlushing

I am not sure if he intended to break this news in his post-draft media availability, but new Met Carson Benge mentioned that his college roommate and close friend Nolan McLean is giving up hitting and will just pitch going forward

9:22 PM · Jul 14, 2024 · 61K Views

Jonathan Santucci
LHP
DUKE
DOB:
12-28-2002
Height:
6-2
Weight:
205

Scouting Report
Bats: L, Throws: L

Santucci has first-round stuff, but he missed the last half of the 2023 spring with a fractured elbow and has had control issues throughout his time at Duke, including a 14 percent walk rate this spring. He’s 92-95 and typically shows a plus slider and above-average changeup, although he barely uses the latter pitch, and when I caught him against Wake Forest in March he didn’t have any feel for the slider. His draft status is probably more a function of what teams see in his medical reports than what the scouts and analysts say. He missed several starts in May with a rib injury, returning for a two-inning, 37-pitch start in the Regionals, where he sat 95-96.

need to figure out how to get him in the zone more. someone else said there's a lot of upside here, teams thought entering the year he could be round 1 but then had the injuries. 3 plus pitches sometimes, very athletic, needs polishing.

We'll pick this up tomorrow in the third round, starting from the 75th overall pick. Mets pick 82nd in Round #3 (eighth pick in the third round).

Day #2 - Rounds 3 to 10. It'll start at 2 pm EDT.

2024 DRAFT TRACKER - MLB.com - Sorted by team: Mets - ( New Window )

METS SELECT TWO-WAY PLAYER CARSON BENGE WITH 19TH OVERALL PICK - Posted by Jack Ramsey | Jul 14, 2024


METS SELECT DUKE LHP JONATHAN SANTUCCI WITH THE 46TH OVERALL PICK - Posted by Matt Mancuso | Jul 14, 2024

because the Mets drafted a hurler from Duke?

And his friendship with McLean
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In comment 16553435 Eric on Li said:

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so im in. i like getting getting a 2 way player who can focus on one side going forward. in zone whiff is very low and apparently that cant be taught per kiley. sounds like a solid pick.

That sounds familiar… lol

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DanMetroMan : 7/13/2024 11:42 am : link : reply
major point of concern in regard to optimism with Parada (and Houck has a similar red flag)... in zone whiff rates. If you're swinging and missing at pitches out of the zone, that's something that's "easier" to correct. We've seen plenty of free swingers become more selective. Missing pitches IN the strike zone at a high level has been proven to be far more difficult to correct.”

I am neutral on the Benge pick (mostly because the next groundball oppo heavy guy Mets hitting PD gets to lift and pull more will be the first in awhile) and love the Santucci pick

In comment 16553512 DanMetroMan said:

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I am neutral on the Benge pick (mostly because the next groundball oppo heavy guy Mets hitting PD gets to lift and pull more will be the first in awhile) and love the Santucci pick

Who would you have gone with in the 1st?

FWIW, the highlights on him on MLBTV had him pulling the ball quite well. Obviously, SSS as it was 2-3 highlights. They did note that he needed to work on inside pitches better. Hopefully with a 60 hit tool, that's something he can improve on (they seemed to think he would)

Consensus is that Benge is going to need to learn to pull the ball more in the air to be an impact bat so Seidler isn’t alone there. Law’s report made a similar note.

Similar comment from prospects live pre draft

“ 22. BALTIMORE ORIOLES - OF CARSON BENGE

SLOT VALUE: $3,802,200

Baltimore has liked Culpepper and Honeycutt, though, with one gone and the other having legitimate hit tool concerns, the Orioles may pivot to Benge. Benge's swing is a bit of a project, though Baltimore's hitting development would be perfect for him. It's an extremely fun fit.”

to a prospect writer, he said he's heard the Mets are projecting McLean as a RPer and think he can be a good one. No indication that switch is imminent however.

Headshot of Carson Benge
15. Carson Benge
OF / RHP

Ht: 6'1" | Wt: 184 | B-T: L-R

Age: null

School: Oklahoma State Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.5
BA Grade: 50/High
Tools: Hit: 55. Power: 50. Run: 50. Field: 50. Arm: 60.

Benge redshirted in 2022 during his first season with Oklahoma State as he recovered from Tommy John surgery. He has both hit and pitched for the program in each of the last two seasons, though his focus and the bulk of his playing time has come as a hitter. A 6-foot-1, 184-pound outfielder and lefthanded hitter, Benge has hit well over .300 in both of his seasons in the Big 12 Conference, with great plate discipline and solid power to go along with his contact skills. He has a noisy swing that features a wide and open setup, a sizable leg kick and some hand movement throughout his load, but he’s made it work in college with a solid 82% overall contact rate and more than enough bat speed to handle big league velocity. Benge might need to quiet his operation at the next level, but his combination of bat-to-ball skills and impact provides a solid foundation for a quality hit-and-power pair. Benge has mostly played right field and probably is best suited for that position given his plus arm and average speed, but scouts think he is a standout athlete who might be able to handle all three outfield spots. On the mound, Benge has a four-pitch mix that includes a low-90s fastball, upper-70s curve, mid-80s changeup and low-80s slider. He was most effective as a reliever with Oklahoma State, but his pro upside is greater as a hitter—the opposite of 2023 Mets third-rounder and former OSU two-way player Nolan McLean.

32. Jonathan Santucci
LHP

Ht: 6'2" | Wt: 205 | B-T: L-L

Age: null

School: Duke Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.6
BA Grade: 55/Extreme
Tools: Fastball: 60. Slider: 60. Changeup: 50. Control: 40.

Santucci flashed big-time upside in each of his first two seasons at Duke, but he was limited as a hybrid starter/reliever as a freshman and then started just seven games in 2023 thanks to a season-ending elbow surgery. He finally worked a complete season as a starter for the Blue Devils in 2024, when he served as the team’s Friday night ace and posted a 3.41 ERA in 13 starts and 58 innings with a 35% strikeout rate and 14% walk rate. Santucci was one of the most electric pitchers in the country through the first three weeks of the season but began struggling with control as he entered Atlantic Coast Conference play. He also dealt with a rib injury in May. He’s a strong and athletic southpaw with a 6-foot-2, 205-pound frame and quality three-pitch mix. Santucci’s fastball sits 93-95 mph, touches 97 and has above-average riding life and bat-missing qualities, but his command of the pitch leaves a lot to be desired. He has better feel for a mid-80s slider that features snappy two-plane break at its best, but he would also overthrow the pitch at times to find the strike zone, which meant hitters could find success sitting on it. His upper-80s changeup has late tumbling action and fade and above-average potential, but he threw it just 9% of the time this spring. Santucci’s below-average control creates reliever risk, but he offers first-round stuff for a team that thinks it can help him improve his command.

In comment 16553514 KDavies said:

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In comment 16553512 DanMetroMan said: Quote: I am neutral on the Benge pick (mostly because the next groundball oppo heavy guy Mets hitting PD gets to lift and pull more will be the first in awhile) and love the Santucci pick Who would you have gone with in the 1st?

also curious about this ? DMM. Would you have gone Benge or someone else how the board fell?

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5 tool type CF long term, just a baseball player, extremely athletic, approach inthe box, makes a lot of contact, plus power in BP.
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a nearly impossible question to answer without seeing what some of these guys sign for but Benge was a completely solid pick there, went in the range he was expected to go and has pretty high floor, with a reasonably high "sum of parts" ceiling. Culpepper was the one guy I didn't love who was being tied to them. I'm jealous LAD landed Lindsay where they did.

writer I speak to ranks Santucci, the Mets 4th best pitching prospect (he doesn't count Christian Scott as a prospect) behind Sproat, Tong, and Tidwell (likes his upside more than Tidwell's but concerns with his durability)

Best available players for Day 2
Peyton Stovall, 2B, Arkansas (ranked No. 34)
Kevin Bazzell, C/3B, Texas Tech (No. 35)
Dakota Jordan, OF, Mississippi State (No. 49)
D’Marion Terrell, OF, Thompson HS, AL (No. 52)
Gage Miller, 3B, Alabama (No. 54)
Carson Wiggins, RHP, Roland HS, OK (No. 55)
Jared Jones, 1B, LSU (No. 57)
Connor Gatwood, RHP, Baker HS, AL (No. 61)
Dax Whitney, RHP, Blackfoot HS, ID (No. 63)
Mike Sirota, OF, Northeastern (No. 65)

Carlos Collazo
Verified

@CarlosACollazo
Best available players for day 2:

35. OF Dakota Jordan
41. RHP Drew Beam
45. RHP Dax Whitney
49. RHP Joey Oakie
53. OF Garrett Shull
57. RHP Tegan Kuhns
63. 3B Carson DeMartini
64. SS Colby Shelton
66. LHP Ryan Prager
68. C/3B Kevin Bazzell

One player that intrigues me on Day 2 if signable is Alaska HS C Coen Niclai. He has shown some power in workouts and held is own in MLB Draft League despite facing much more experienced/older competition.

ranks Niclai #413

413. Coen Niclai
C

Ht: 6'2" | Wt: 213 | B-T: R-R

Age: null

School: Service HS, Anchorage, Ala. Commit/Drafted: Oregon
Age At Draft: 18.6
It’s rare to have prominent prospects from Alaska but Niclai is an intriguing catcher from the state with a powerful 6-foot-2, 210-pound frame and some tools to go with it. His raw power and arm strength are the calling cards of the profile and both tools are either above-average now or are easy projections to be in the near future. He’ll need to work to stick behind the plate because of his size and the fact that his actions are a bit light for the position currently. If he doesn’t catch he’ll move off to first base or a corner outfield spot as a well below-average runner which changes the complexion of his profile significantly. Niclai performed on the circuit and also played in Arizona during the 2024 spring so he’s been seen by decision makers more than you might expect for an Alaskan player. He’s committed to Oregon.

is Tears whom Collazo suggested could be a Mets pick here


Headshot of Kavares Tears
83. Kavares Tears
OF

Ht: 6'0" | Wt: 205 | B-T: L-L

Age: null

School: Tennessee Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.9
BA Grade: 50/Extreme
Tools: Hit: 40. Power: 50. Run: 55. Field: 50. Arm: 60.

Tears is a big, muscular 6-foot, 200-pound outfielder who has put together back-to-back strong seasons with Tennessee as a redshirt sophomore. After homering just twice in 29 games in 2023, Tears homered 20 times in 71 games in 2024 with a .324/.427/.643 slash line. He employs a high handset and level bat path from the left side of the box and generates huge top-end exit velocity numbers, though that hard contact comes with plenty of swing and miss. His career 25.6% strikeout rate and 68% overall contact rate point to a below-average hit tool, which means continuing to get to his impressive raw power in games with a wood bat will be key to his offensive profile. Tears showed a slightly improved approach in 2024 compared to 2023 and his walk rate climbed from 10.6% to 15.4% because of it, but the evaluations of his pure hitting ability continue to vary widely in the industry. Tears has the arm strength to play right field and should fit in either corner outfield position in pro ball. While he takes a few strides to get going, he’s a strong runner underway though not much of a base stealer at the moment.


One guy I really like as a senior sign is Lyle Miller-Green. FREAKISH size/power combo, very old for the draft but 2020 (COVID and a lost season at OSU cost him significant time)

Pick: OF Carson Benge
BA rank: 15

Instant Analysis: Getting Benge here is good value for the Mets. He’s an advanced pure hitter with a selective approach, a nice lefthanded swing and good bat control, resulting in a low swing-and-miss rate. It’s not the same level of bat speed and power that players like Braden Montgomery or Seaver King have who went ahead of them, but Benge has the edge on them in terms of pitch recognition and bat-to-ball skills.

BA 500 Scouting Report: Benge redshirted in 2022 during his first season with Oklahoma State as he recovered from Tommy John surgery. He has both hit and pitched for the program in each of the last two seasons, though his focus and the bulk of his playing time has come as a hitter. A 6-foot-1, 184-pound outfielder and lefthanded hitter, Benge has hit well over .300 in both of his seasons in the Big 12 Conference, with great plate discipline and solid power to go along with his contact skills. He has a noisy swing that features a wide and open setup, a sizable leg kick and some hand movement throughout his load, but he’s made it work in college with a solid 82% overall contact rate and more than enough bat speed to handle big league velocity. Benge might need to quiet his operation at the next level, but his combination of bat-to-ball skills and impact provides a solid foundation for a quality hit-and-power pair. Benge has mostly played right field and probably is best suited for that position given his plus arm and average speed, but scouts think he is a standout athlete who might be able to handle all three outfield spots. On the mound, Benge has a four-pitch mix that includes a low-90s fastball, upper-70s curve, mid-80s changeup and low-80s slider. He was most effective as a reliever with Oklahoma State, but his pro upside is greater as a hitter—the opposite of 2023 Mets third-rounder and former OSU two-way player Nolan McLean.

Depending on the price I think it could be worth the gamble

Seems like some nice picks yesterday! First time I missed the first day in a while.

Benge seems like he profiles similar to Conforto?

last 5 picks
Colin Houck
Jett Williams
Kevin Parada
Pete Crow Armstrong
Kumar Rocker

not a great haul there

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last 5 picks Colin Houck Jett Williams Kevin Parada Pete Crow Armstrong Kumar Rocker not a great haul there

If you look across MLB you will find similar results. The success rate is awful. It also gets more complex as some teams will overdraft a player in Round 1 because he will sign for significantly below slot enabling you to have more money to go after better players on Day 2. If there is no player that stands out, why not save money to be able to get better talent later in the draft?

Josh Kuroda-Grauer.

take Nate Dohm, P - Miss. State.

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last 5 picks Colin Houck Jett Williams Kevin Parada Pete Crow Armstrong Kumar Rocker not a great haul there

Rocker doesn't count as they didn't sign him, so they got an extra pick they used in the Parada/Jett draft. PCA was a top 10-15 prospect. Jett was a good pick as well. Houck too early to tell. Parada is the only one that looks like a disappointment, and he was the top college hitter coming out (or at least close to it)

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Josh Kuroda-Grauer.

Yeah and they took Ryan Lasko last year who was also Rutgers best player.

Ht: 6'4" | Wt: 220 | B-T: R-R

Age: null

School: Mississippi State Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.5
BA Grade: 45/High
Tools: Fastball: 55. Slider: 55. Curveball: 50. Changeup: 40. Control: 50.

Dohm is a 6-foot-4, 210-pound righthander who flashed impressive swing-and-miss stuff with Ball State in 2022 but also struggled to throw consistent strikes. He transferred to Mississippi State for the 2023 season where he cut his walk rate significantly, then was one of the most dominant starters in the country through his first four weeks in the 2024 season before an arm injury caused him to miss most of the rest of the season before making a few brief outings in May. He posted a 1.23 ERA over 29.1 innings and six starts with a 32.7% strikeout rate and 3.5% walk rate. Dohm pitches heavily off a 93-95 mph fastball that touches 96 and has impressive riding life that allows him to miss bats at the top of the zone. His best breaking ball is a short-breaking mid-80s slider, but he will also mix in a slower curveball around 80 mph that has a bit more depth, as well as an upper-80s changeup he throws to the arm side against lefties. If healthy all season, Dohm was pitching like a potential top-three round arm thanks to his pure stuff and command. His draft stock is more uncertain now, but he should still fit as a day two talent.

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take Nate Dohm, P - Miss. State.

Pipeline had him ranked 165.

Scouting grades: Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 55 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 40 | Control: 55 | Overall: 40

Dohm spent his first two college seasons in the bullpen, pitching at Ball State as a freshman before transferring to Mississippi State. He created some first-round buzz after transitioning to the rotation this spring and posting a 1.50 ERA with a 32/4 K/BB ratio over 24 innings in his first four starts. But he missed the next month with a forearm strain, made an aborted comeback in April and returned in short outings in the second half of May.

A healthy Dohm carves up hitters with a fastball that averages 94 mph and touches 97 with explosive carry up in the strike zone. He can miss bats with both of his breaking balls, getting a lot of empty swings with his mid-80s slider and a ton of chases with his deeper 79-82 mph curveball. He lacks feel for a too-firm changeup in the upper 80s, though it flashes some promising fade.

Dohm has a strong 6-foot-4 frame and a simple delivery that allows him to pound the zone with his fastball and slider. He looks like a mid-rotation starter but his durability is a huge question after he also had forearm issues as a sophomore. His stuff and strikes did come back in May, and he cruised through two scoreless innings against a formidable Texas A&M lineup at the Southeastern Conference tournament.

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They’ve also taken a few kids recently from tri state areas the last few years, so the area scout clearly has some respect and pull over there in the FO.

Think they took a kid from Princeton recently too in past few years.

has feel of a possible play at coming in underslot a bit.

Spending 3rd Round picks on HS kids not in mlb.com's Top 250, not that that is the be all and end all.

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Seems like some nice picks yesterday! First time I missed the first day in a while. Benge seems like he profiles similar to Conforto?

that was what i thought as well. seems like a better athlete and maybe not as much power.

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has feel of a possible play at coming in underslot a bit.

agree it reads that way. wasnt in law's top 100. kiley had him 139.

seems like they are comfortable betting on their ability to develop pitchers who are discounted due to mixed results/injuries vs paying whatever premium for players who were more productive.

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Yup. Looks projectable as a reliever too if needed. Lot can change with Ps on their development curves, pitch development etc.

curious to see if the Mets plan on having Benge bulk up a bit, he's very slight (6'1 180) and looks like he can comfortably carry 15-20 pounds pretty easily.

RD 3 - #82 overall - Nate Dohm, Mississippi State, Pitcher (RHP)
RD 4 - #111 overall
RD 5 - #144 overall
RD 6 - #173 overall
RD 7 - #203 overall
RD 8 - #233 overall
RD 9 - #263 overall
RD 10 - #293 overall

Ryan Clifford earned a seven-figure bonus out of Pro5 Academy (Apex, N.C.) in 2022 and has since played his way onto MLB Pipeline's Top 100 Prospects list as a member of the Mets' organization. But at the time he was drafted, there were some evaluators who thought another outfielder on the same club was a superior talent. Serrano opted to attend North Carolina State, where he has impressed with his bat-to-ball skills, yet disappointed with his power. He helped the Wolfpack reach the College World Series as a Draft-eligible sophomore this year but hit just .289 with 14 homers in two seasons. Serrano has a smooth, easy left-handed swing and a lanky 6-foot-5 frame that provides leverage. He makes consistent contact with ease despite his long limbs and can crush some balls in batting practice, but he doesn't drive the ball in games and is feeble against southpaws. He projected as a 25-30 home run threat in high school but hasn't grown into the bat speed or strength that scouts expected. Though he's a fringy runner out of the batter's box, Serrano moves well once he gets going. After playing first base as a freshman, he played a credible center field with average-to-solid arm strength this spring. He has good instincts in center, but he's probably destined for an outfield corner as a pro.

Eli Serrano, OF NC State in 4th Rd.

Pipeline had him at 224 overall.

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 45 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 40

Ryan Clifford earned a seven-figure bonus out of Pro5 Academy (Apex, N.C.) in 2022 and has since played his way onto MLB Pipeline's Top 100 Prospects list as a member of the Mets' organization. But at the time he was drafted, there were some evaluators who thought another outfielder on the same club was a superior talent. Serrano opted to attend North Carolina State, where he has impressed with his bat-to-ball skills, yet disappointed with his power. He helped the Wolfpack reach the College World Series as a Draft-eligible sophomore this year but hit just .289 with 14 homers in two seasons.

Serrano has a smooth, easy left-handed swing and a lanky 6-foot-5 frame that provides leverage. He makes consistent contact with ease despite his long limbs and can crush some balls in batting practice, but he doesn't drive the ball in games and is feeble against southpaws. He projected as a 25-30 home run threat in high school but hasn't grown into the bat speed or strength that scouts expected.

Though he's a fringy runner out of the batter's box, Serrano moves well once he gets going. After playing first base as a freshman, he played a credible center field with average-to-solid arm strength this spring. He has good instincts in center, but he's probably destined for an outfield corner as a pro.

scout eye and projection hope with the body size and swing. Maybe little hope for an underslot to a degree with Serrano.

@BaseballAmerica ranks Serrano #205.

School: NC State Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.2
Serrano was a notable prep prospect thanks to his big frame, solid raw power and bat speed that made him seem like a solid prospect even at one of the offensive-first defensive positions. Now a draft-eligible sophomore at NC State, Serrano has moved from first base to center field after a solid 2023 freshman season where he homered seven times and added 12 doubles. While Serrano doesn’t look like a center fielder in the long run, showing the ability to move around the outfield and perhaps profile at a corner could help his profile as long as he keeps hitting and showing more power. He still has some physical projection remaining with a lanky 6-foot-5, 201-pound frame.

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scout eye and projection hope with the body size and swing. Maybe little hope for an underslot to a degree with Serrano.

As a Draft Eligible Sophomore it is probably a slot pick. I am surprised they have not gone for overslot yet.

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Saw he was 4th yr Sophomore just now so you’re probably right.

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"Serrano hit straight ball very, very well. Curveball, bat is scared."

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"Serrano hit straight ball very, very well. Curveball, bat is scared."

would imagine we will get a few overslots soon but not massive overslots (500k-750k total bonuses).

it seems like they are basically trying something close to last year's strategy where they mostly paid slot early then grabbed a few overslots:

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houck - 2.75m sproat - 1.475m mclean - 747k morris - 666k ewing - 675k baro - 700k if you take $1m from houck by picking someone lesser, or even more let's say they overdrafted ewing or baro and gave them $1m. they could have had 1.75m to try to add 1 or 2 more sproats they liked who possibly went back to college because they were looking for but didnt get $1m+. obviously it's probably not easy to identify more sproats or everyone would do it, but i think that would be my strategy unless i really loved whoever the 1st round pick was.

Very high on Serrano
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Lanzilli (formerly in the Orioles biometrics department) and an ex player himself


“My favorite pick of the draft so far

Four 50 grade offerings in the 3rd round 😵‍💫

Pretty good get for @Mets”

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it looks like.

Pipeline has him at 155.

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 45 | Run: 50 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 40

The Missouri high school ranks feature three interesting shortstops. The consensus is that Snyder's polish and floor make him the best prospect of the trio, giving him the edge over Tytus Cissell's athleticism and Drew Dickerson's physicality. If he doesn't go early enough in the Draft to sign, Snyder could make an immediate impact as a freshman at Tennessee next spring.

Gatorade's Missouri high school player of the year, Snyder is a steady right-handed hitter who makes good swing decisions and provides consistent contact. He didn't show much power on the showcase circuit last summer but has gained some strength and is hitting the ball harder this spring. His biggest backers believe he has 20-homer upside, though others think his pop is more fringy.

Similar questions surround Snyder's ability to remain at shortstop. While he has flashed plus straight-line speed in the past, he has produced below-average home-to-first times this spring after adding muscle. He has reliable hands, solid arm strength and a good internal clock at shortstop, but diminished quickness could land him at third base.

Ht: 6'2" | Wt: 195 | B-T: R-R
Age: null
School: Liberty North (Mo.) HS Commit/Drafted: Tennessee
Age At Draft: 18.8
BA Grade: 50/Extreme
Tools: Hit: 50. Power: 45. Run: 55. Field: 55. Arm: 55.

Snyder is a 6-foot-2, 197-pound shortstop who is one of the more athletic players in the 2024 class and has shown impressive skills on both sides of the ball. He has fast hands and a quick swing that could lead to an average hit tool. Snyder has also gained strength over the last 18 months or so with flashes of average raw power that could tick up as he continues to fill out. At the moment, his swing is more conducive to line drives and ground balls which pairs nicely with his impressive in-zone contact skills. He can be overly aggressive with his swing decisions however and might need to tighten up his plate discipline as he faces more advanced pitching. Snyder was one of the most impressive defenders at the 2023 Area Code Games where he showed quick reactions off the bat, good angles to the ball, solid-average arm strength and an ability to throw on the run with accuracy. He has all the tools to be a solid or better defender at shortstop, though some scouts think he might get too physical as he ages and will need to slide over to third base. He’s committed to Tennessee.

Going signability to afford Sloan

“The Mets go and get Trey Snyder in the 5th round, another MW product who's got plenty to like at the plate w/ plus results and good EVs. Athletic and handles things well on the dirt. #Vols commit tho. Intriguing upside either way.
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I am assuming Benge will go to St Lucie when he signs and they'l probably sit the pitchers until next year? No more FCL for the high schoolers.

Mets seem to be prioritizing stuff over meds which given broad pitcher injury risk makes a sort of sense. Anyway have gotten universally good feedback on this pick.

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I am assuming Benge will go to St Lucie when he signs and they'l probably sit the pitchers until next year? No more FCL for the high schoolers.

Yeah. Wouldn’t expect to see any HS kids until 2025 and the pitchers (if they throw at all) will be a handful at most

Pipeline has him at 170.

Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 40 | Arm: 55 | Field: 45 | Overall: 40

Collins had one of the highest offensive ceilings among catchers in the 2020 high school crop, but he wasn't signable away from a Georgia commitment and went unselected. He mostly DHed in his first two college seasons and was an outfielder/catcher in an injury-shortened third, never producing as originally anticipated. He has tightened up his left-handed stroke and played with more confidence during a breakout senior season, slashing 354/.574/.772 with 20 homers while ranking first in NCAA Division I in on-base percentage and sixth in OPS (1.346).

Collins still focuses almost exclusively on launching balls to his pull side, but his shorter stroke has enabled him to make more consistent hard contact and get the most out of his plus raw power. His bat speed allows him to catch up to the fastball and he has feasted on heaters while hitting in front of potential No. 1 overall pick Charlie Condon. He's also no longer helpless against breaking balls and changeups. He works deep counts and excels at getting on base via walks and being hit by pitches.

Though Collins has solid arm strength, he lacks the receiving ability to catch at the next level and barely has played behind the plate in 2024. His below-average speed makes the outfield corners a stretch, but he has worked hard to make the transition to first base this spring. If he continues to improve, he could become an average defender at first.

Tools: Hit: 45. Power: 55. Run: 40. Field: 45. Arm: 55.

Collins ranked as the No. 139 prospect in the 2020 class out of high school thanks to his standout raw power as a catcher, but he made it to campus at Georgia, where his prospect status faded a bit after three mediocre seasons. He went undrafted after his 2023 junior season, but made adjustments in 2024 that led to the best season of his career where he hit .354/.574/.772 with 20 home runs and the best on-base percentage in D-I baseball—making him an elite leadoff hitter in front of potential 1-1 pick Charlie Condon. Collins put the bat head in a more vertical position this spring which helped him loosen up in the box and get his hands in a better hitting position with more consistency. He’d always shown a strong batting eye, but contact issues prevented him from tapping into his power. That was not a problem this spring, as he made contact at a 79% clip compared to a 74% clip in his first three seasons with a career-low 13.1% strikeout rate and career-high 23% walk rate—one of the best marks in the country. Collins is now a straight first-base prospect with catching an unlikely proposition for him, but his lefthanded power, improved contact and on-base skills should make him a target somewhere in the middle of the draft’s second day.

I don’t mind picks like that.

The Collins pick as a senior sign. Still want them to pull the trigger of LMG!

More Left Handed bats in the system. I like it.

Unranked by Pipeline.

Probably an under slot to save money.

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I think you are overestimating under slot. Considering Pipeline ranked 250 people and that includes unsignable HS guys anyone drafted here is almost likely to be unranked. Junior so if underslot you are still talking about maybe $30,000 in savings.

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Didn’t make BA’s top 500 FWIW

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Didn’t make BA’s top 500 FWIW

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Was looking at LMG and his teammate Jon Jon Gazdar rarely struck out

Believe they had the best offensive team in all of D1 but don’t quote me

New York Mets and New York Yankees: If you don’t love New York, skip this note. I love the Mets’ two picks, with Carson Benge (No. 19) a real upside play as a hitter who makes very hard contact and needs some small tweaks to get to power; and Jonathan Santucci (No. 46), the Duke left-hander with first-round stuff and some injury concerns after his 2023 spring ended due to a fractured elbow. Santucci was their second-round pick, and taking the chance on a first-round arm like that with your second pick is a great gamble. Meanwhile, the Yankees took a personal favorite of mine in this draft, Alabama right-hander Ben Hess, with their first pick (No. 26), and followed it up with Vanderbilt righty Bryce Cunningham (No. 53). Both seem like the sort of pitchers who thrive in the Yankees’ player development system.

Significant upside with major durability concerns (already had TJ) and off field “character” issues

As expected @mets 2nd round pick Jonathan Santucci has indicated he intends to sign #Mets

My knowledge of most of the people drafted yesterday and definitely today are reading their stat line. From listening to Mayo and Callis it seems like the last few picks yesterday are relievers going forward that can throw hard but have control questions. Since they did not really do a lot of overslot yesterday it will be interesting to see what they do today. Do they try to get 1 or 2 that might be looking for say a $500,000 bonus? With the draft down to 20 rounds I would not waste a pick on someone who is unsignable although I do not have an issue with having that one player who is your back-up in case there is money left (as teams probably have some fudge factor just in case an advisor chooses to demand slightly more money than was discussed prior to the selection).

been told the Mets are not significantly under-slot at the moment. They expect to sign all 10 picks.

still on the board, do it, do it.
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A redraft of Christian Little at some point today would not shock me. Yes, different regime but many of the same scouts remain

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been told the Mets are not significantly under-slot at the moment. They expect to sign all 10 picks.

Considering they only went for one real noticeable overslot guy (the HS SS) with an earlyish Senior sign and a bunch of college relievers I would be disappointed if we are that up against slot. The previous amateur scouting regime brought in a lot more upside.

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Serrano is expected to be over-slot as well. Response I got was "they have some room, but don't expect a bunch of big money grabs today"

was removed from other teams boards due to both medical concerns and off field "red flags". Not exactly a shocker given he was thrown off the Cornhuskers in 2022

names both the Braves and Yankees 2 of their top 5 most compelling draft classes through the first 10 rounds

best remaining

45 Dax Whitney RHP Blackfoot (Idaho) HS HS 6-5 195 18.5 Idaho
53 Garrett Shull OF Enid (Okla.) HS HS 6-1 205 19.0 Oklahoma
57 Tegan Kuhns RHP Gettysburg (Pa.) Area HS HS 6-3 177 19.2 Pennsylvania
64 Colby Shelton SS Florida 4YR 6-0 200 21.6 Florida
69 Hunter Carns C/OF First Coast HS, Jacksonville, Fla. HS 6-0 195 19.3 Florida
76 Sawyer Farr SS Boswell HS, Fort Worth, Texas HS 6-4 170 19.1 Texas
78 Carson Wiggins RHP Roland (Okla.) HS HS 6-5 210 19.1 Oklahoma
92 D’marion Terrell OF Thompson HS, Alabaster, Ala. HS 6-3 206 18.4 Alabama
93 Mason Russell LHP Casteel HS, Queen Creek, Ariz. HS 6-1 185 18.3 Arizona
95 Duncan Marsten RHP Harvard-Westlake HS, Sudio City, Calif. HS 6-4 215 19.1 California
97 Connor Gatwood RHP Baker HS, Mobile, Ala. HS 6-5 195 18.8 Alabama

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best remaining 45 Dax Whitney RHP Blackfoot (Idaho) HS HS 6-5 195 18.5 Idaho 53 Garrett Shull OF Enid (Okla.) HS HS 6-1 205 19.0 Oklahoma 57 Tegan Kuhns RHP Gettysburg (Pa.) Area HS HS 6-3 177 19.2 Pennsylvania 64 Colby Shelton SS Florida 4YR 6-0 200 21.6 Florida 69 Hunter Carns C/OF First Coast HS, Jacksonville, Fla. HS 6-0 195 19.3 Florida 76 Sawyer Farr SS Boswell HS, Fort Worth, Texas HS 6-4 170 19.1 Texas 78 Carson Wiggins RHP Roland (Okla.) HS HS 6-5 210 19.1 Oklahoma 92 D’marion Terrell OF Thompson HS, Alabaster, Ala. HS 6-3 206 18.4 Alabama 93 Mason Russell LHP Casteel HS, Queen Creek, Ariz. HS 6-1 185 18.3 Arizona 95 Duncan Marsten RHP Harvard-Westlake HS, Sudio City, Calif. HS 6-4 215 19.1 California 97 Connor Gatwood RHP Baker HS, Mobile, Ala. HS 6-5 195 18.8 Alabama

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Kuhns says he's going to school

Pick 8 (173rd overall), Mets: Corey Collins, 1B, Georgia (No. 170)
While Bulldogs teammate Charlie Condon led the nation in many categories, Collins topped Division I with a .574 on-base percentage. His 1.346 OPS also ranked sixth. He thrives on getting walks and hit-by-pitches, but his above-average power gets the best offensive grades heading into pro ball. A former catcher, he’s likely limited to first base at the next level.

St. Louis took Jon Jon!

Actually sounds somewhat interesting
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RHP Ethan Lanthier Kansas

Huge kid but not overpowering 91-93 per Aaron Fitt

Today it's brunch at O'Brate, where @OSUBaseball is hosting @KUBaseball. Jayhawks RHP Ethan Lanthier picked up where I last saw him on the Cape - looked great in a perfect inning with 2 Ks. Spotting up both sides at 91-93 T94, good sharp slider with big tilt. Key newcomer for KU.

Huge kid but not overpowering 91-93 per Aaron Fitt

Today it's brunch at O'Brate, where @OSUBaseball is hosting @KUBaseball. Jayhawks RHP Ethan Lanthier picked up where I last saw him on the Cape - looked great in a perfect inning with 2 Ks. Spotting up both sides at 91-93 T94, good sharp slider with big tilt. Key newcomer for KU.

Mets 12-353: Ethan Lanthier, RHP, Kansas -- tall/loose reliever, lively low/mid 90s FB, avg/abv sweepy SL, fair CH, phys/arsenal to start though blw-avg control and mechanics make for relief only outlook

RHP R.J. Gordon Oregon

wrote about Gordon when I caught the Ducks at Globe Life Field the first weekend of the season. He was filling up the zone with a 92-93 cut ride fastball, landing a big 12-6 breaker, and turning over an average changeup. I felt like his pitch mix was missing an out pitch vs right-handers, and that a sweeper would fit his arm slot and supination-heavy profile, as he was only throwing a low to mid 80’s cuttery slider. Well, it looks like before his March 15th start vs Cal, Gordon added a sweeper full-time and is throwing his cutter harder. Averaging 13 inches of sweep at 83 MPH, this sweeper has the makings of a true out pitch vs right handed hitters.

However, there have been some struggles for Gordon learning this pitch, as it only has a 20% miss rate, but I would argue this is likely Gordon is still gaining feel for a pitch that’s tough to command, let alone learn in-season. This pitch will flash double plus, as the video below is one with positive IVB, almost 20 inches of sweep, and throw 84 MPH, but Gordon is still gaining feel for it. While the pitch shape averages are good, it’s been a bit more inconsistent than you’d like. It’s a pitch he leaves over the heart of the plate a bit too often, and while it may get some called strikes, in predictable counts hitters can sit on it and do damage as long as they see it out of the hand. I like Gordon’s pitch mix a lot. While the results haven’t fully been there, tinkering in season can be tough, especially for a guy who missed all of 2023 with an injury. On top of this, given the run-scoring environment in college baseball in 2024, Gordon has a solid set of skills that I believe should translate better than his baseball card numbers may indicate. I still think there’s a #5 starter upside here, especially if the right team gets ahold of him.

RHP Tanner Witt Texas

The son of former big leaguer Kevin Witt, Tanner received offers of late first-round money out of high school in 2020 but he wanted to play in college at Texas. A key reliever on the Longhorns' 2021 College World Series team, he showed first-round stuff in two starts the following spring before blowing out his elbow and needing Tommy John surgery. Before he got hurt, he showcased a pair of plus pitches in a 92-95 mph fastball that touched 97 with run and carry and a upper-70s downer curveball. His stuff hasn't bounced back as he has given up 20 runs in as many innings during the last two seasons, and he had a minor procedure to clean up scar tissue in his elbow this spring. It's unclear what his future holds now, but it's time for a fresh start in pro ball.

compared to most of these other guys

probably shut down this year, but could be on track for a full workload next year

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The son of former big leaguer Kevin Witt, Tanner received offers of late first-round money out of high school in 2020 but he wanted to play in college at Texas. A key reliever on the Longhorns' 2021 College World Series team, he showed first-round stuff in two starts the following spring before blowing out his elbow and needing Tommy John surgery. Before he got hurt, he showcased a pair of plus pitches in a 92-95 mph fastball that touched 97 with run and carry and a upper-70s downer curveball. His stuff hasn't bounced back as he has given up 20 runs in as many innings during the last two seasons, and he had a minor procedure to clean up scar tissue in his elbow this spring. It's unclear what his future holds now, but it's time for a fresh start in pro ball.

Sounds like a Syndergaard situation unfortunately


“ Tanner Witt is a sad story of being a special arm who just couldn't return fully healthy after Tommy John, no doubt he could return to some form but the current state is not a fun one -- good kid and hope he can get back to what he was once projected to become”

Mets 14-413: Tanner Witt, RHP, Texas -- last year was seen as 1st-rder w/ mid-rotation upside but hasn't seen healthy return from TJ, presently upper 80s FB w/ limited feel for o/s but was once high spin FB/CV strike-thrower, purely dreaming on returning to half of his upside

In comment 16554169 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16554163 Mike in NY said: Quote: The son of former big leaguer Kevin Witt, Tanner received offers of late first-round money out of high school in 2020 but he wanted to play in college at Texas. A key reliever on the Longhorns' 2021 College World Series team, he showed first-round stuff in two starts the following spring before blowing out his elbow and needing Tommy John surgery. Before he got hurt, he showcased a pair of plus pitches in a 92-95 mph fastball that touched 97 with run and carry and a upper-70s downer curveball. His stuff hasn't bounced back as he has given up 20 runs in as many innings during the last two seasons, and he had a minor procedure to clean up scar tissue in his elbow this spring. It's unclear what his future holds now, but it's time for a fresh start in pro ball. Sounds like a Syndergaard situation unfortunately “ Tanner Witt is a sad story of being a special arm who just couldn't return fully healthy after Tommy John, no doubt he could return to some form but the current state is not a fun one -- good kid and hope he can get back to what he was once projected to become”

Even if he only gets only a portion back from where he is now that is more upside than your typical Day 3 pick so I have no issue giving him a shot.

and fall into the 1-2% of pitchers who don't recover from TJ.

Witt is still young enough that it's a nice day 3 pick to see if maybe over time he's able to regain his arm.

Round 15 is underway at the moment.

Mets have selected Tanner Witt from Texas here in the 14th

He’s someone everyone is rooting for,
potential first rounder before getting TJ. Worked his ass off to come back in 2023. His velo has been down since. Also, he had a procedure to clean up scar tissue this spring.

Best of luck to him

and just picking up lotto tickets

exciting day for good old BU. Grew up near there, going to the B-Mets games. Would be neat for him if he made it to AA there.

"He is the first Binghamton second baseman to ever be drafted and is the school's highest position player taken in 34 years."


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Witt had TJ March 2022, so hope for the best, and zero risk in the 14th round but it’s going on 2.5 years (and a secondary scar tissue surgery this past Spring) #Mets

Writer told me Roselli can really hit. Said he’s probably not a big leaguer but he’s not “for sure” not one

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and just picking up lotto tickets

Depth is NOT their problem 😂

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In comment 16554182 Metnut said: Quote: and just picking up lotto tickets Depth is NOT their problem 😂

… is this guy haha
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… is this guy haha Link - ( New Window )

He and Jelkin should work well together. Mets scouts in KS/OK/TX putting in a lot of work.

posted above. Said he received 1st round money during the Pandemic year of 2020, but really wanted to go to U.T. If the Mets can get and keep him healthy, they've got a steal.

They just mentioned that tidbit a minute or so ago.

Will Jaden Agassi be next?

Angels' recent selection is the brother of Mets prospect Paul Gervase

Nelson Berkwich. Lefty who started out at Vandy. Out of the bullpen there two years. ERA was around 3.00. Transferred to NC. Didn't get much play there. Transferred to Binghamton last year. 4.77 ERA. Really has not gotten his velocity up past the low 90s. If he does, he could be something.

Has excelled in wood bat leagues. Last summer, 0.84 ERA. Summer before 1.96 ERA in Cape Cod league.

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posted above. Said he received 1st round money during the Pandemic year of 2020, but really wanted to go to U.T. If the Mets can get and keep him healthy, they've got a steal.

That's the issue, he didn't recover from TJ. FB sits high 80's now. This isn't a "fragile" situation, it's a Syndergaard situation, didn't recover from TJ

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Gervase is predicatbly twll... 6'9"... but lefty

I hope he gets a chance there.

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velocity: 96 mph
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Goes to the White Sox!

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Goes to the White Sox!

He'll be in the middle of their lineup 2028 when they are good again!

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I hope he gets a chance there.

Draft talk only on this thread. Post this on the thread linked below:

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In comment 16554220 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16554206 Optimus-NY said: Quote: posted above. Said he received 1st round money during the Pandemic year of 2020, but really wanted to go to U.T. If the Mets can get and keep him healthy, they've got a steal. That's the issue, he didn't recover from TJ. FB sits high 80's now. This isn't a "fragile" situation, it's a Syndergaard situation, didn't recover from TJ

Thanks Dan. I should've read the earlier post.

They've got 3 more selections to make





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Long sounds like an organizational filler type to me. Can’t all be exciting picks

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Long sounds like an organizational filler type to me. Can’t all be exciting picks

If we were looking at Miami I would be more interested in his teammate Brian Walters even if there are more signability questions here

Catch here
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is Jace Hampson will be headed to school (18th round 2 way player announced as a P)

Just took one of the few names left I had heard of. Mets instead take some other guy from the state of Florida.

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Elissalt threw 51 innings with the Sharks in 2024, striking out 62 batters and walking 17 with a 3.71 ERA. Elissalt has topped out at 94 mph on the fastball.

Congrats Frank!

Minutes away. The Nats just picked at 590. The Mets pick at 593.

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Minutes away. The Nats just picked at 590. The Mets pick at 593.

Likely unsignable here

Adam Haight
Cedar Park Christian HS (WA)
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B/T: R/R

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In comment 16554280 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Minutes away. The Nats just picked at 590. The Mets pick at 593. Likely unsignable here

Could've drafted him to talk to him.

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In comment 16554283 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16554281 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 16554280 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Minutes away. The Nats just picked at 590. The Mets pick at 593. Likely unsignable here Could've drafted him to talk to him.

There is no draft & follow so if we don't sign him and he goes to a 4 year school he can't come out before 2027. A lot can happen between now and then.

Thanks.

there *is* draft and follow but said player has to go the JUCO route in 2025

failed to sign 3, 2022 failed to sign 2, I expect them to sign 18/20 but we shall see.

Speaking for myself, and from a great distance, with no inside knowledge -- this Draft 'feels' a little different to me.

There seems to be an overall plan here. They went for LH Bats, and projectible Pitching prospects. Today they went for the long shots, lottery tix as we call them. I really pray for the Kid with the TJ surgery....I hope there is a path to recovery. Not just for the Mets' sake, but for Tanner Witt's sake too.

Do we have a feel for who is calling the shots here ? Is it Kris Gross ? or Tommy T ?

ran the draft. DiComo had a piece about it and Gross has been the one talking about the picks after the fact.

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ran the draft. DiComo had a piece about it and Gross has been the one talking about the picks after the fact.

OK.
Dan, what's your initial impression of the Mets' picks this year? I know it's early for a Hot Take.

But it pains me a lil' bit to hear BA giving props to the Braves and the Yankees. Any positives, in your view ?

agent phase.

August 1st at 5 pm EDT. Gonna be a busy next 16 days or so.

Like what the Mets did, risky group of pitchers. I don’t expect them to sign 18 and 20. Letter grades for drafts post draft always strike me as silly but gun to my head I’d give a solid B with the obvious caveats being 1. Who signs 2. Who is actually going to be healthy among the red flag pitchers.

Signed 5 UDFA’s last season, Astros 6, Mets only signed one (Hawkins)… may mean absolutely nothing (Stearns was only an advisor last season) but just throwing that out there. Atlanta signed 11. Teams can bid up to 150,000 without touching their pool

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Signed 5 UDFA’s last season, Astros 6, Mets only signed one (Hawkins)… may mean absolutely nothing (Stearns was only an advisor last season) but just throwing that out there. Atlanta signed 11. Teams can bid up to 150,000 without touching their pool

Ah, thanks Dan. I was gonna ask how the pool money works with the UDFAs.

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ran the draft. DiComo had a piece about it and Gross has been the one talking about the picks after the fact.

Gross ran it, but there were definitely some differences versus Houston that could reflect the existing scouting staff. As all pitchers seem to get hurt at some point the profile of pitcher they are looking at I do like versus some post drafts where we would take guys like Wenninger

Do these players go to FCL? DSL? Both? Neither?

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Do these players go to FCL? DSL? Both? Neither?

FCL ends next week. HS players willl for the most part
not play until 2025. Vast majority of the pitchers either won’t pitch at all or will throw a handful of innings in St Lucie and then be shut down. The position players will mostly land in St Lucie with the most advanced landing in BK.

Sign RHP Hoss Brewer

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Sign RHP Hoss Brewer

He is the younger brother of Cubs P Colten Brewer

Says signing Haight is a long shot. He's likely getting that from the team as I highly doubt he has inside information on the signability of the Mets 20th round pick

Brewer spent one season at Seminole State (Okla.) JC before moving to Arkansas-Little Rock where he pitched three seasons as a starter and reliever. In 2024 the 6-foot-4, 205-pound righthander had a career year in a full-time starting role. He posted a 3.95 ERA over 84.1 innings and 15 starts with a 26.6% strikeout rate and 9.5% walk rate. Brewer throws a 90-95 mph fastball that has above-average riding life and backs the pitch with a low-80s breaking ball mid-80s changeup—both of which were reliable swing-and-miss offerings this spring.

Hawkins was their line UDFA last season (some teams signed as many as 11) but he’s been solid for the Cyclones, wouldn’t be surprised to see him finish the season in Bing. They paid him the max bonus (without tapping into the draft pool). I was surprised they only signed 1, hopefully more this season

but weren't there more UDFA signed by now last year? Seems slower on that end league-wide

nice article, with some notes on Santucci and Haight as well
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but weren't there more UDFA signed by now last year? Seems slower on that end league-wide

Outside of the 5th year seniors, all of the players being drafted and/or signed were not playing college ball during COVID so you have less people looking to sign UDFA contracts.

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but weren't there more UDFA signed by now last year? Seems slower on that end league-wide

There have been about 30 so far, pretty normal pace based on the last 2 seasons (new bonus rules)

and Rangers have signed 3 apiece

**new signing** @mets have signed RHP Chandler Marsh, Georgia. Marsh was ranked #383 in the 2024 draft by @BaseballAmerica. Listed at 6'4" 245, Marsh has a FB that has been up to 99, "definitely" a reliever due to below average command but scouts are "excited" by his arm #Mets

**new signing** Per @d1baseball @mets have also signed UDFA Hayden Cooper, RHP, West Virginia. Cooper (6'3" 210) pitched 52 innings allowing 73 hits 16 walks 32 k's 6.10 era in 2024, 8 starts, 9 appearances out of the BP. @mets have now signed 3 UDFA #Mets

Looks like Hale Sims (a 2023 UDFA signed and released by the Mets) is pitching pretty cool for the FCL White Sox (small sample size) 6.1 innings 6 k's 2.84 era

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**new signing** @mets have signed RHP Chandler Marsh, Georgia. Marsh was ranked #383 in the 2024 draft by @BaseballAmerica. Listed at 6'4" 245, Marsh has a FB that has been up to 99, "definitely" a reliever due to below average command but scouts are "excited" by his arm #Mets

Went to my local high school. Very excited about this one!

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**new signing** Per @d1baseball @mets have also signed UDFA Hayden Cooper, RHP, West Virginia. Cooper (6'3" 210) pitched 52 innings allowing 73 hits 16 walks 32 k's 6.10 era in 2024, 8 starts, 9 appearances out of the BP. @mets have now signed 3 UDFA #Mets

Those are some pretty uninspiring numbers to put it mildly. Interested as to what they see in him.

of the 3 UDFA's they signed last year combined to throw 1.1 innings before being released, so in some cases these are akin to extended looks at arms.

Looking over the Atlanta Braves draft list, they used 10 of their first 12 picks on Pitchers. Their big league staff has been hit hard with injuries, so they're rounding up as many arms as possible.

We get force-fed a lot of Braves news down here in CHS (Braves think they own land rights as far west as Mississippi and north to Richmond HA). But they are in our division, and the Mets ain't going nowhere until they can beat the Braves.

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Looking over the Atlanta Braves draft list, they used 10 of their first 12 picks on Pitchers. Their big league staff has been hit hard with injuries, so they're rounding up as many arms as possible. We get force-fed a lot of Braves news down here in CHS (Braves think they own land rights as far west as Mississippi and north to Richmond HA). But they are in our division, and the Mets ain't going nowhere until they can beat the Braves.

Believe it or not, it's not that unusual. I think Texas took 19 pitchers last season or the season prior. The Mets took 13/20 this season and just signed 3 more.

Given the way pitchers are needing time on the IL, it's probably a good idea to keep the pipeline full.

I note our Local Hero, Trey Pooser, the Pitcher from College of Charleston and Univ of Kentucky was selected in the 10th round by the Tampa Rays. He's a little older and may get to spend time at Tampa's Low-A CHS Riverdogs.....Home Cookin'

In comment 16554719 KDavies said:

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In comment 16554674 DanMetroMan said: Quote: **new signing** Per @d1baseball @mets have also signed UDFA Hayden Cooper, RHP, West Virginia. Cooper (6'3" 210) pitched 52 innings allowing 73 hits 16 walks 32 k's 6.10 era in 2024, 8 starts, 9 appearances out of the BP. @mets have now signed 3 UDFA #Mets Those are some pretty uninspiring numbers to put it mildly. Interested as to what they see in him.

He had better numbers in a summer wood bat league last year so perhaps they just wanted to give him an extended look with professional coaches

Excellent read on @mets new 1B Corey Collins
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***New Mets signing** per @d1baseball
@mets
have signed another RHP (their 4th UDFA RHP) Hunter Hodges (TCU). Hodges is listed at 6'3" 225, has a sweet stache and was ranked #489 by @BaseballAmerica

Hodges is a 6-foot-3, 225-pound righthander who has racked up plenty of strikeouts and walks over his four collegiate seasons, starting with UNC Wilmington and finishing with TCU—as a reliever at both schools. This spring Hodges posted a 1.86 ERA over 19.1 innings with a 42.9% strikeout rate and a 16.9% walk rate. He throws a 90-93 mph fastball that features some cutting action, but used the pitch only around 20% of the time this spring, instead throwing a heavy diet of low-80s curveballs and mid-80s sliders. Both are high-spin offerings that get near 3,000 rpm. Hodges generated a miss rate north of 50% with both pitches this spring, though his control is well below-average.

Hodges in 2024 19.1 innings 8 hits 13 walks *33* k's (all in relief) #Mets

@mets signed 3 UDFA in 2023, 6 in 2022 and have signed 4 so far this year #Mets

Chandler Marsh, RHP, Georgia (BA 500 rank: No. 383)

Marsh is a big and physical righthander with a 6-foot-4, 245-pound frame and a fastball that at its best has sat in the mid 90s and been up to 99. Marsh has only thrown a handful of innings in 2024, and his velocity was down considerably from what he showed in 2023, which clouds his draft stock. He has thrown a solid low-80s slider that could become an above-average breaking ball and has also mixed in a mid-70s curveball and mid-80s changeup. He’s definitely a reliever prospect thanks to below-average control, but scouts are excited about the pure arm talent and physicality he possesses.

Expected to sign “well” over slot.

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Hodges in 2024 19.1 innings 8 hits 13 walks *33* k's (all in relief) #Mets

Very interesting pickup. In summer ball (surprised he's playing) he has 23.1 inning, 11 hits, 21 walks, and 40 Ks.

Obviously some control issues, but if he reduce the walks, he could be someone to watch.

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Expected to sign “well” over slot.

“Big” number is what I’m being told. I don’t have said number

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In comment 16554850 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Hodges in 2024 19.1 innings 8 hits 13 walks *33* k's (all in relief) #Mets Very interesting pickup. In summer ball (surprised he's playing) he has 23.1 inning, 11 hits, 21 walks, and 40 Ks. Obviously some control issues, but if he reduce the walks, he could be someone to watch.

Summer ball is common for draft eligible players, especially pitchers. The MLB draft league has been a common picking grounds for the Mets for example

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In comment 16554918 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 16554850 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Hodges in 2024 19.1 innings 8 hits 13 walks *33* k's (all in relief) #Mets Very interesting pickup. In summer ball (surprised he's playing) he has 23.1 inning, 11 hits, 21 walks, and 40 Ks. Obviously some control issues, but if he reduce the walks, he could be someone to watch. Summer ball is common for draft eligible players, especially pitchers. The MLB draft league has been a common picking grounds for the Mets for example

I would think they wouldn't risk injury going into the draft

Collazo 98% of first 10 round picks have signed 2012-2023.

(potential 1st overall next season) just hit one 440 feet/108 EV. A HS kid!

@mets 13th round pick R.J. Gordon is only the 3rd Oregon Duck to ever be drafted by @mets, the most recent being David Peterson #Mets

@FCLMets J-Rod 0-3, Gilbert 0-3, K (0-9, 4 walks, 2 k's so far during his rehab assignment), Reimer 0-3, K (1-9, 5 walks, 2 k's), Juan 1-3, Gutierrez 0-1, Christian Rodriguez 4 innings 5 hits 1 run 1 walk 8 k's #Mets

has begun announcing signings (no Mets yet)

is new to me.

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You’ll see a lot of Jays signings that come in $2,500 underneath a round number, or the slot value of the pick. This is an accounting trick, as teams are allowed to award signees a $2,500 signing contingency bonus after the contract is executed."

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In comment 16554917 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Expected to sign “well” over slot. “Big” number is what I’m being told. I don’t have said number

Got a Jonathan India comp from a writer I know

@mets first signing? @UGAAthletics reporting @mets 6th round pick 1b/DH Corey Collins has signed with @mets #Mets

had the same take as me says the expects Mets to sign 1-17 and 19 barring medical issues.

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had the same take as me says the expects Mets to sign 1-17 and 19 barring medical issues.

Hampson (18th Round selection) added @Mets organization to his instagram feed and other places so maybe we will have another Zitella-like move?

speak on Hampson (meaning, I have no clue, not being evasive) but was told Haight "not happening)

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speak on Hampson (meaning, I have no clue, not being evasive) but was told Haight "not happening)

Not surprised on Haight as he had a 4 year college commit with a good program

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The first draft of the David Steans and Kris Gross era is in the books, and Mets fans should be excited about the players they drafted over the three-day process. Things got kicked off on Sunday when the Mets selected two-way player Carson Benge from Oklahoma State and left-handed starter Jonathan Santucci from Duke. On Day 2, the Mets drafted five right-handed pitchers, one of the best college hitters of 2024, a center fielder and a prep shortstop. One of those righties, Ryan Lambert, was up to 102 mph this season as a reliever for Oklahoma. During the final day of the draft, the Mets added seven more right-handed pitchers (one high schooler), an infielder from Long Island, a college center field and wrapped up the draft with a highly-regarded prep shortstop.

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sign Nick Roselli

@keithlaw with a very positive summary of @mets draft. Dohm and Will Watson in particular
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New
@mets
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@mets
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New @mets OF Carson Benge is a member of the Cherokee Nation. Current @mets RHP Adrian Houser is also a member of the Cherokee Nation

I just hope he has a better career than his brother, whom I liked coming out of Oklahoma State and I thought the Red Sox got a steal with in 13th Round. Who knew he would last fewer than 200 games over parts of 3 seasons in the minors and never get above high A ball?

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@keithlaw with a very positive summary of @mets draft. Dohm and Will Watson in particular Link - ( New Window )

I keep getting boxed-out of Law's summary, they want a subscription.

It's all good though -- Keith likes our two new RH pitchers. I like 'em too. Both dudes with size.
BTW -- When I googled Will Watson, I also got a famous Painter and a Coast Guard Admiral with the same name.

And maybe our new Cherokee can have a pow-wow with our old Cherokee Pitcher Houser.

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In comment 16555917 DanMetroMan said: Quote: @keithlaw with a very positive summary of @mets draft. Dohm and Will Watson in particular Link - ( New Window ) I keep getting boxed-out of Law's summary, they want a subscription. It's all good though -- Keith likes our two new RH pitchers. I like 'em too. Both dudes with size. BTW -- When I googled Will Watson, I also got a famous Painter and a Coast Guard Admiral with the same name. And maybe our new Cherokee can have a pow-wow with our old Cherokee Pitcher Houser.

the athletic is the one sports/internet subscription I actually find value in. not saying you should subscribe or not, up to you, just saying if you do decide to you may find it worth it. I think they usually have trials or 1st year for like $19.99 or something like that. and FWIW I subscribed for the hockey content. but their coverage of all sports are good. their fantasy sports stuff sucks though if you're interested in that.

after reading Law's write up there isn't much there that DMM, Eric, Mike, Optimus, etc. haven't already said or posted here on their own or from other sources, lol.

you say that. I actually pay for BA,but the only subscription I recommend to other people is The Athletic. You can usually find deals for 12-24 dollars for the entire year and because the writers it's not beholden to the same kinds of deadlines you get really deep dive/cool content. For Mets fans Will Sammon/Tim Britton and Keith Law's content makes it worth it, and as a Knicks fan Fred Katz is A++

In comment 16555966 DanMetroMan said:

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you say that. I actually pay for BA,but the only subscription I recommend to other people is The Athletic. You can usually find deals for 12-24 dollars for the entire year and because the writers it's not beholden to the same kinds of deadlines you get really deep dive/cool content. For Mets fans Will Sammon/Tim Britton and Keith Law's content makes it worth it, and as a Knicks fan Fred Katz is A++

+1

No problem at all paying for The Athletic.

it's still as good as anything else out there and in some cases better, but if you look around hard enough there's not much proprietary. there a few beats who are the best reporters with access (sammon is one of them) and a few really strong national writers (like eno, rosenthal, vecenie, lebrun, feldman etc).

unfortunately i dont think their original business model was sustainable and the ability for top creators (bob mcginn as an example) to monetize themselves through substack thinned out the product.

@mets 2nd round pick Jonathan Santucci will be signing with @mets and is already in St. Lucie per Kevin Shea of Spectrum News 1 #Mets

I hope that Benge makes us regret passing on him

In comment 16555626 DanMetroMan said:

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sign Nick Roselli

Per Healey he will put pen to paper today

In comment 16556267 Mike in NY said:

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I hope that Benge makes us regret passing on him

17 year old HS arm probably needs to throw somewhere around 400 innings in the minors before getting to big leagues. i think the TJS odds for any minor league pitcher who throws upper 90s in that period of time are probably close to 50%. think about how many of the college arms coming out now seem to have already gotten TJS, and they are probably only halfway farther to big leagues.

if there are 2 prospects anywhere close to equal in terms of grade, i dont know how you take on the extra pitcher risk.

In comment 16556003 Eric on Li said:

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it's still as good as anything else out there and in some cases better, but if you look around hard enough there's not much proprietary. there a few beats who are the best reporters with access (sammon is one of them) and a few really strong national writers (like eno, rosenthal, vecenie, lebrun, feldman etc). unfortunately i dont think their original business model was sustainable and the ability for top creators (bob mcginn as an example) to monetize themselves through substack thinned out the product.

their local hockey team writers are some of the best in the business.

I'd pay the fee just for Arpon Basu (MTL) alone (not the $99 one but the $24 promo, lol)

I think Staple is their Islanders guy (and Rangers I believe). not sure his hockey connections or quality but Arpon is great and I feel like Staple puts out good stuff.

and their national guys like pronman, wheeler, etc. are the best too.

it's official`https://x.com/WexlerRules/status/1814676876150870222
Link - ( New Window )

In comment 16556314 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 16556003 Eric on Li said: Quote: it's still as good as anything else out there and in some cases better, but if you look around hard enough there's not much proprietary. there a few beats who are the best reporters with access (sammon is one of them) and a few really strong national writers (like eno, rosenthal, vecenie, lebrun, feldman etc). unfortunately i dont think their original business model was sustainable and the ability for top creators (bob mcginn as an example) to monetize themselves through substack thinned out the product. their local hockey team writers are some of the best in the business. I'd pay the fee just for Arpon Basu (MTL) alone (not the $99 one but the $24 promo, lol) I think Staple is their Islanders guy (and Rangers I believe). not sure his hockey connections or quality but Arpon is great and I feel like Staple puts out good stuff. and their national guys like pronman, wheeler, etc. are the best too.

yeah i like pronman and wheeler and those player cards they do. staple is meh, kurtz was better, but lou doesnt really let anything out so staple is left to mostly whine/pander to his audience of whiny nyi fans. at the promo price it's definitely a no brainer.

to be worth the full price they'd have to add more unique content. TJstats' info and apps are insane, which is why he charges like $100/year for full access, they should have signed him like yesterday.

Sign 4 picks
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Sign 4 picks Link - ( New Window )

Nice

Lambert - RD 8
Girton - RD 10
Roselli - RD 11
Lanthier - RD 12

Aren't the only draft picks that aren't expected to sign Hampson (RD 18) and Haight (RD 20)? Interesting that they only picked 3 high schoolers (the two mentioned directly above and Trey Synder, their 5th round pick.

Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
·
2nd-rder Jonathan Santucci signs w/
@Mets
for $2,031,700 (full slot 46 value).
@DukeBASE
LHP, intriguing three-pitch mix (92-96 mph fastball w/carry, low-80s slider w/two-plane break, mid-80s changeup w/fade), needs to throw more strikes & has the athleticism to do so.
@MLBDraft

In comment 16556449 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16556403 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Sign 4 picks Link - ( New Window ) Nice Lambert - RD 8 Girton - RD 10 Roselli - RD 11 Lanthier - RD 12 Aren't the only draft picks that aren't expected to sign Hampson (RD 18) and Haight (RD 20)? Interesting that they only picked 3 high schoolers (the two mentioned directly above and Trey Synder, their 5th round pick.

Amount of HS picks have gone down precipitously. It's industry standard at this point.

In comment 16556449 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16556403 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Sign 4 picks Link - ( New Window ) Nice Lambert - RD 8 Girton - RD 10 Roselli - RD 11 Lanthier - RD 12 Aren't the only draft picks that aren't expected to sign Hampson (RD 18) and Haight (RD 20)? Interesting that they only picked 3 high schoolers (the two mentioned directly above and Trey Synder, their 5th round pick.

As GF said, this is happening across the majors unless you have a top pick and are willing to go substantially under slot. The lack of low minors teams mean that you can’t spend 2-3 years with a guy in your low minors to see if he can put it together and be ready when his class would be draft eligible had he gone to school. Many teams are also seeing that doing a Matt Allan where you load up on senior signs to get a high ranked HS guy on Day 2 is not proving successful (in the NFL it is basically trading up so you have 2-3 picks but they are all in the first 2 days - if JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner bust the Vikings don’t have a lot to show from 2024 Draft).

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Liberty North SS Trey Snyder plans to sign with the
@Mets
next week. He was a fifth-round pick (No. 144 overall) in the 2024
@MLB
Draft.

Snyder signed with Tennessee and, in the NIL era, nothing is set in stone until the ink is dry!

So far @mets have signed 8/20 draft picks + 6 UDFA's (all UDFA's are RHPers) #Mets

Sign Will Watson, full slot per Mayer. Loved that pick

and freely available that mentions MLB and MLBPA willing to discuss draft pick trades (beyond the competitive balance picks). If they do agree sounds like the earliest would be for the 2027 draft, but could be a game changer for MLB even though MLB picks take years on average to reach the majors.

Signs

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and freely available that mentions MLB and MLBPA willing to discuss draft pick trades (beyond the competitive balance picks). If they do agree sounds like the earliest would be for the 2027 draft, but could be a game changer for MLB even though MLB picks take years on average to reach the majors.

Hopefully they do it. Should have been done a long time ago.

In comment 16556647 DanMetroMan said:

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Signs

The @Mets have agreed to a deal with third-round pick (No. 82) Nate Dohm for $797,500 (slot value = $934,800), per @jimcallisMLB.

player they expected to sign is now looking like he may head back to school (not a top 5 round pick fwiw)

#Mets day three signings:

-11th rounder Nick Roselli: $150,000
-12th rounder Ethan Lanthier: $150,000
-13th rounder RJ Gordon: $150,000
-17th rounder Jacoby Long: $150,000
-19th rounder Frank Elissalt: $50,000

In comment 16556724 DanMetroMan said:

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player they expected to sign is now looking like he may head back to school (not a top 5 round pick fwiw)

Sounds like Blum or Jelkin

I'd like them to get Josh Blum under contract.

Jaxon Jelkin may not be worth the trouble he might bring.

@mets 18th round pick RHP Jace Hampson has signed with @mets #Mets

@mets announced Hampson as a pitcher, so it's assumed his days as a TWP are over. With the FCL season about to finish up, Hampson is unlikely to make his pro debut until the 2025 FCL season #Mets

In comment 16556891 DanMetroMan said:

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@mets 18th round pick RHP Jace Hampson has signed with @mets #Mets

Prospect writer I know said he's an undersized RHP, very athletic, low 90's FB right now, not much mileage on his arm, not a ton of projection left, not a big time "get" but no downside to adding more arms.

like the Mets are currently about 250 under their draft pool not including Hampson

In comment 16557012 DanMetroMan said:

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like the Mets are currently about 250 under their draft pool not including Hampson

Really miss NYFS and the draft tracker at this time of year. The actual MLB draft tracker only has 3 signing bonuses listed currently. Santucci, Dohm, and Girton.

2nd Round pick Jonathan Santucci (slot)
3rd round pick Nate Dohm (137,300 under)
8th round pick Ryan Lambert (53,500 under)
10 Round pick Brendan Girton (61,800 under)
11th round Nick Roselli, 12th round Ethan Lanthier, 13th round RJ Gordon, 17th round Jacoby Long, 19th round Frank Elissalt (all 150,000)

Jace Hampson (bonus not yet announced)

Thanks Dan!

**SIGNING ALERT** @mets
have announced the signing of 4th round pick OF Eli Serrano III

Per @mikemayer22 from yesterday @mets have also signed 7th round pick Will Watson #Mets

Unsigned @mets picks
1st Benge
5th Snyder
6th Collins
9th Jelkin
14th Witt
15th Woodward
16th Blum
20th Haight

but looking like Haight and a college player, so still 18, correct?

In comment 16557108 KDavies said:

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but looking like Haight and a college player, so still 18, correct?

Hampson has signed. Haight is not expected to sign.

got lumped in with Haight by Mets fans for some reason. Haight was a top 200 player in the draft for BA, Hampson was unranked and is a 6'1 175 RHP sitting low 90's right now. Haight is viewed a potential future 1st round pick by some teams.

reported Watson received slot so the Mets savings are about 250K, not including Hampson/Serrano's unknown bonuses.

Yankees have signed *10* UDFA's per @BaseballAmerica (the most of any team) 2 other teams have signed 9

In comment 16557112 DanMetroMan said:

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got lumped in with Haight by Mets fans for some reason. Haight was a top 200 player in the draft for BA, Hampson was unranked and is a 6'1 175 RHP sitting low 90's right now. Haight is viewed a potential future 1st round pick by some teams.

I thought they both Haight and Hampson were expected to both go unsigned. That is the only reason I've heard them lumped in: because they were both later round high school picks. I have heard nobody lump Hampson in with Haight talent-wise.

In comment 16557127 KDavies said:

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In comment 16557112 DanMetroMan said: Quote: got lumped in with Haight by Mets fans for some reason. Haight was a top 200 player in the draft for BA, Hampson was unranked and is a 6'1 175 RHP sitting low 90's right now. Haight is viewed a potential future 1st round pick by some teams. I thought they both Haight and Hampson were expected to both go unsigned. That is the only reason I've heard them lumped in: because they were both later round high school picks. I have heard nobody lump Hampson in with Haight talent-wise.

Hampson was disinterested in school and wanted to sign. As I said, the more the merrier but hard to get hyper excited about a smallish RHP sitting 90-92. I do not expect his bonus to be particularly high (HS or not), Haight reportedly looking for 4th round money.

Yankees have signed *10* UDFA's per @BaseballAmerica
(the most of any team) 2 other teams have signed 9

Several Teams Target Multiple Changeups With Big Armside Run

Six teams dominated the leaderboard for college pitchers drafted with the most run on their changeups: the Royals (A.J. Causey, Tommy Molsky and L.P. Langevin), Mets (Ethan Lanthier, Will Watson and Jaxon Jelkin), Yankees (Bryce Cunningham and Gage Ziehl) Twins (Jakob Hall and Jacob Kisting) Astros (Parker Smith and Bryce Mayer) and Rays (Nate Knowles and Janzen Keisel).

Blum and Woodward signed

appears Witt confirmed he's signing but nothing official yet

Update- Unsigned
1st Benge
5th Snyder
6th Collins
9th Jelkin
14th Witt
20th Haight

Matt Collier
@reillocity
Top FaBIO BB+HBP* Ratings among '24 D1 Draftees
1⃣100 Corey Collins, Georgia🔜NYM
2⃣100 Nick Kurtz, Wake Forest🔜OAK
3⃣100 Travis Bazzana, Oregon State🔜CLE
4⃣100 Jacob Friend, Davidson🔜CIN
5⃣100 Woody Hadeen, UC Irvine🔜DET
6⃣100 Joseph Sullivan, South Alabama🔜HOU
*BB+HBP% relative to other batters facing same opponent

gets 41,100 over slot

697,500

rumors Witt is getting over slot but I haven't had that confirmed.

2,500 under slot... why? Explained here


Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
This is a good time to remind everyone that some teams use the $2,500 signing contingency bonus. Atlanta used that last year and it seems like they are as well this year.

If you see bonus discrepancies of $2,500 specifically that's what's happening.

Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
Yes, it's a signing contingency bonus. Essentially the player will get that $2,500 once the contract is executed but the team will save $2,500 towards the bonus pool.

The numbers I report are always what goes to the bonus pool.

In comment 16557132 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16557127 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 16557112 DanMetroMan said: Quote: got lumped in with Haight by Mets fans for some reason. Haight was a top 200 player in the draft for BA, Hampson was unranked and is a 6'1 175 RHP sitting low 90's right now. Haight is viewed a potential future 1st round pick by some teams. I thought they both Haight and Hampson were expected to both go unsigned. That is the only reason I've heard them lumped in: because they were both later round high school picks. I have heard nobody lump Hampson in with Haight talent-wise. Hampson was disinterested in school and wanted to sign. As I said, the more the merrier but hard to get hyper excited about a smallish RHP sitting 90-92. I do not expect his bonus to be particularly high (HS or not), Haight reportedly looking for 4th round money.

Disinterested in school...put a Milo on him!

In comment 16557132 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16557127 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 16557112 DanMetroMan said: Quote: got lumped in with Haight by Mets fans for some reason. Haight was a top 200 player in the draft for BA, Hampson was unranked and is a 6'1 175 RHP sitting low 90's right now. Haight is viewed a potential future 1st round pick by some teams. I thought they both Haight and Hampson were expected to both go unsigned. That is the only reason I've heard them lumped in: because they were both later round high school picks. I have heard nobody lump Hampson in with Haight talent-wise. Hampson was disinterested in school and wanted to sign. As I said, the more the merrier but hard to get hyper excited about a smallish RHP sitting 90-92. I do not expect his bonus to be particularly high (HS or not), Haight reportedly looking for 4th round money.

Hampson signs for slot, as does Woodward

which i think would mean they can go overslot by a total of roughly $700k for the unsigned:

Benge
Snyder (overslot but by how much?)
Collins (senior under slot?)
Jelkin
Witt
Haight (seems like he's the lotto ticket?)

Has been termed “unsignable” by one source. Same source confirms a non top 5 pick is waffling on signing.

Is getting a very large number. Once source said they wouldn’t be shocked if it ends up 7 figures. Seidler seems to be hearing something similar as he “liked” my tweet where I noted I was told Snyder is getting a very large bonus.

Mets have 5.947 million remaining (including overage) with Benge, Snyder, Jelkin, Haight, Collins, Witt, Blum remaining unsigned.

In comment 16557502 DanMetroMan said:

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Mets have 5.947 million remaining (including overage) with Benge, Snyder, Jelkin, Haight, Collins, Witt, Blum remaining unsigned.

Blum signed.

6 unsigned players remain

player just confirmed to me that a player that was expected to sign is now likely headed back to school.

Teams are allowed 165 players domestically + 15 additional spots for players on the 60 day IL. Players count towards 165 as soon as their contracts are signed, so with @mets
adding roughly 25 "new" players, unfortunately more players will likely be let go

In comment 16557551 DanMetroMan said:

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player just confirmed to me that a player that was expected to sign is now likely headed back to school.

Hopefully the lost pool money if in first 10 rounds won't be an issue. If you don't sign someone that early you lose the full slot plus the overage of that.

player (he's down at the complex right now) said Woodward is rehabbing an elbow injury (he said he thinks it's TJ but didn't ask) and that Woodward's coach vouched for Woodward to the Mets (Woodward is the guy who tackled a hitter who was heckling him).

Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
6th-rder Corey Collins signs w/@Mets
for $275k (slot 173 = $363,100). @BaseballUGA
1B, broke out this spring with .354/.574/.772 line & 20 HR, led NCAA D-I in OBP & ranked sixth in OPS (1.346), plus raw power. @MLBDraft

Mike Mayer
@mikemayer22
Drew Gilbert is in the Triple-A Syracuse Mets lineup for the first time since April 6th.
5:02 PM · Jul 23, 2024

Has signed

@Mets signing- as expected @mets 5th round pick Trey Snyder has confirmed to @wesleymiller360 that he will indeed bypass his commitment to the University of Tennessee and sign with @mets. #Mets

Benge (RD 1), Jelkin (RD 9), & Haight (RD 20 - High Schooler) are the only ones left unsigned as of now if I'm not mistaken, correct?

In comment 16558374 Optimus-NY said:

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Benge (RD 1), Jelkin (RD 9), & Haight (RD 20 - High Schooler) are the only ones left unsigned as of now if I'm not mistaken, correct?

If the rumors are correct, Jelkin may be going back to school. Haight is not signable in Round 20 with what money is left.

In comment 16558269 DanMetroMan said:

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@Mets signing- as expected @mets 5th round pick Trey Snyder has confirmed to @wesleymiller360 that he will indeed bypass his commitment to the University of Tennessee and sign with @mets. #Mets

I was assuming Snyder might be the one to fly the coop based on the rumors I was reading here of one of the Mets' top draftees not signing. Good to see he signed on the dotted line.

In comment 16558379 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16558374 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Benge (RD 1), Jelkin (RD 9), & Haight (RD 20 - High Schooler) are the only ones left unsigned as of now if I'm not mistaken, correct? If the rumors are correct, Jelkin may be going back to school. Haight is not signable in Round 20 with what money is left.

Thanks Mike. Have a lot of this year's first rounders signed yet around MLB?

benge's slot value is 4.2m, so any savings there could be meaningful. i dont know if either is worth it, but if they could save a bit off benge and not go too far over on snyder, they can offer either of the other guys $1m.

not sure that's realistic but i guess we'll know soon enough.

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benge's slot value is 4.2m, so any savings there could be meaningful. i dont know if either is worth it, but if they could save a bit off benge and not go too far over on snyder, they can offer either of the other guys $1m. not sure that's realistic but i guess we'll know soon enough.

Snyder is getting WELL over slot (one source says approaching 7 figures if not 7). Jelkin not expected to sign. Final player to sign will likely be Benge.

In comment 16558448 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16558405 Eric on Li said: Quote: benge's slot value is 4.2m, so any savings there could be meaningful. i dont know if either is worth it, but if they could save a bit off benge and not go too far over on snyder, they can offer either of the other guys $1m. not sure that's realistic but i guess we'll know soon enough. Snyder is getting WELL over slot (one source says approaching 7 figures if not 7). Jelkin not expected to sign. Final player to sign will likely be Benge.

if that's the case re snyder than i assume that was the plan and drafting haight was simply giving themselves an option to throw $1m+ at vs losing it if they couldnt get snyder to sign. who knows maybe jelkin is somewhat similar.

this is just a guess, but my guess is they are holding benge for last in case they need an extra $50-100k to get one of these other 3 done. i cant imagine anyone is going to forgo a $4m+ bonus over a small difference like that so they are probably waiting on him to offer whatever is left.

in St. Lucie by the end of the week. He's 100% signing. Haight 1%, Jelkin whatever % you would assign to "team not optimistic he will be signing" + player at the complex telling me he was told he won't be signing.

got 75,000 over slot per Ari Alexander

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in St. Lucie by the end of the week. He's 100% signing. Haight 1%, Jelkin whatever % you would assign to "team not optimistic he will be signing" + player at the complex telling me he was told he won't be signing.

im sure they drafted benge knowing he was very signable and therefore know they are going to offer him enough to sign him.

remember from the players POV if he had gone 2 picks later, as could happen if he were to go back next year, he'd lose $250k too. a 2 pick fluctuation could happen even if he had a better year.

i think at the scale of a $3.8-4.2m bonus, the mets know they will get benge signed but are also likely knowing they have some flexibility in there if $100k helps them get someone else done. someone signable looking to turn pro isnt changing their decision over such a small difference that they could easily lose any way.

now have 705,710 extra pre-signing Snyder, Benge. Snyder is expected to eat up at least half of that.

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got 75,000 over slot per Ari Alexander

Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
#Mets day three signings:

14th rounder Tanner Witt: $222,500 ($72,500 goes towards the bonus pool)
16th rounder Josh Blum: $150,000


Both are technically right, 2,500 doesn't count against the pool and is a loophole of sorts

Looks like he is signing his contract that. Pictures of him at the stadium.

Today not that.

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New York Mets first-round pick Carson Benge announced on Instagram he has signed with the team. The 21-year-old split his time between pitching and playing outfield for Oklahoma State this season.

METS SIGN FIRST-ROUNDER CARSON BENGE | Posted by Michael Mayer | Jul 24, 2024 | MMO.com

1) How much did Benge sign for?

&

2) How much draft pool money do the Mets have left in their war chest to possibly go after the last two unsigned draft picks?

P.S. I know te High SChooler Haight (RD 20) & Jelkin (RD 9) are unlikely to sign, especially Haight, but if there's any chance to convince Jelkin, they've got a week to concentrate on him and do it before the signing deadline arrives.

In comment 16559366 Optimus-NY said:

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1) How much did Benge sign for? & 2) How much draft pool money do the Mets have left in their war chest to possibly go after the last two unsigned draft picks? P.S. I know te High SChooler Haight (RD 20) & Jelkin (RD 9) are unlikely to sign, especially Haight, but if there's any chance to convince Jelkin, they've got a week to concentrate on him and do it before the signing deadline arrives.

Benge signed for 3,997.500 which would give the Mets 932,410 remaining BUT that doesn't include the overage Snyder is expected to receive (word is he may crack 7 figures) slot is 472,200 so IF Snyder is really getting roughly 1 million, that would leave roughly 500K which is why Haight is not signing as he too is a 7 figure player.

In comment 16559366 Optimus-NY said:

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1) How much did Benge sign for? & 2) How much draft pool money do the Mets have left in their war chest to possibly go after the last two unsigned draft picks? P.S. I know te High SChooler Haight (RD 20) & Jelkin (RD 9) are unlikely to sign, especially Haight, but if there's any chance to convince Jelkin, they've got a week to concentrate on him and do it before the signing deadline arrives.

Benge signed for $3,997,500. Slot is $4,219,200. Saved around $200K.

will not be signing, that per a Mets beat I know. That's directly from the Mets.

rumor is Snyder is getting *over* 1 million, if true the rest of the money is going to him.

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rumor is Snyder is getting *over* 1 million, if true the rest of the money is going to him.

which makes the haight pick make some sense (gave themselves a 2nd guy to throw $1m+ at if they couldn't get Snyder done, even if he was more unrealistic to sign). would imagine someone that was here during the rocker fiasco was reminding everyone to do that.

In comment 16559405 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16559401 DanMetroMan said: Quote: rumor is Snyder is getting *over* 1 million, if true the rest of the money is going to him. which makes the haight pick make some sense (gave themselves a 2nd guy to throw $1m+ at if they couldn't get Snyder done, even if he was more unrealistic to sign). would imagine someone that was here during the rocker fiasco was reminding everyone to do that.

Was told Haight 100% was an insurance pick. Unlike Jelkin, who apparently has changed his mind or is at least suggested he is, Haight was never signing unless Snyder decided he was going to school.

final tally appears to be 18/20 signed + 6 UDFA's (all RHP)

We lose his slot + the overage that comes with it so that needs to be taken into account when we look at how much there is for Snyder

In comment 16559407 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16559405 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 16559401 DanMetroMan said: Quote: rumor is Snyder is getting *over* 1 million, if true the rest of the money is going to him. which makes the haight pick make some sense (gave themselves a 2nd guy to throw $1m+ at if they couldn't get Snyder done, even if he was more unrealistic to sign). would imagine someone that was here during the rocker fiasco was reminding everyone to do that. Was told Haight 100% was an insurance pick. Unlike Jelkin, who apparently has changed his mind or is at least suggested he is, Haight was never signing unless Snyder decided he was going to school.

this is the exact scenario to keep in mind with QO free agent return like Alonso.

Snyder was a 5th round pick behind the 4C picks. slot value was $476k. The QO return if Alonso walks will allow them to effectively add 1 more player like him in next year's draft with just the allowable overage and without having to squeeze down any other underslot picks (then they can use the rest of whatever they save for another player like him, or strategize however they want).

obviously the mets like snyder a lot, is there a sense of his level of prospect relative to their HS shortstops they took last year same range like baro/ewing?

to be clear, the math stuff is my bad math, the Snyder getting "over" 7 figures is an "educated rumor" coming from reliable sources. We'll see what the final # looks like but everything pointing to over 1 million.

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We lose his slot + the overage that comes with it so that needs to be taken into account when we look at how much there is for Snyder

that's less than $10k. do mets get a replacement pick next year?

an exact comparison but BA ranked Snyder #142 in the 2024 draft, they had Baro #98 and Ewing 171 in 2023. Different draft classes of course, and BA is just one source. Also have to take into account it appears (assuming the rumors are accurate) the Mets are giving Snyder "significantly" more money than Ewing (675,000) and Baro (700K), so beauty is in the eye of the beholder... also different person running the draft so...not sure what you do with all of that information but there it is.

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to be clear, the math stuff is my bad math, the Snyder getting "over" 7 figures is an "educated rumor" coming from reliable sources. We'll see what the final # looks like but everything pointing to over 1 million.

with the benge savings they have saved $900k+ in their budget plus his slot value of $476k. demayo's doc has them just under 8.4m spent and a budget of 10m with overage so they have a lot to spend with just snyder apparently signable.

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an exact comparison but BA ranked Snyder #142 in the 2024 draft, they had Baro #98 and Ewing 171 in 2023. Different draft classes of course, and BA is just one source. Also have to take into account it appears (assuming the rumors are accurate) the Mets are giving Snyder "significantly" more money than Ewing (675,000) and Baro (700K), so beauty is in the eye of the beholder... also different person running the draft so...not sure what you do with all of that information but there it is.

yeah if he gets $1m+ more i would assume they liked him more. but also like you said, new guy running draft. will be an interesting prospect to follow since he's the only big overslot HS prospect they went with. I have to assume they had him targeted and think he's more of a day 1 type talent.

In comment 16559419 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16559410 Mike in NY said: Quote: We lose his slot + the overage that comes with it so that needs to be taken into account when we look at how much there is for Snyder that's less than $10k. do mets get a replacement pick next year?

No. He was not drafted high enough for that to apply.

Mike Mayer
@mikemayer22
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With their fifth round pick of the 2024 draft, the Mets selected High School shortstop Trey Snyder.

Perfect Game had him ranked as the 69th-best prep prospect.

The 18-year-olds exit velos were in the 99% for the HS class.

In comment 16559419 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16559410 Mike in NY said: Quote: We lose his slot + the overage that comes with it so that needs to be taken into account when we look at how much there is for Snyder that's less than $10k. do mets get a replacement pick next year?

Well it is the slot value too so if slot was $200K you basically lose $210K from your budget for not signing him (slot + 5%).

In comment 16559449 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16559419 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 16559410 Mike in NY said: Quote: We lose his slot + the overage that comes with it so that needs to be taken into account when we look at how much there is for Snyder that's less than $10k. do mets get a replacement pick next year? Well it is the slot value too so if slot was $200K you basically lose $210K from your budget for not signing him (slot + 5%).

got it so that puts their max around 1.3 for snyder (as opposed to the 1.5 or so they are under).

they can basically offer up to +$900k over slot for any of the 3 guys left (obviously sounds like almost all if not all of that's going to Snyder).

finish up this draft class (assuming Hight's a definite no-no). Mets have got a week to change JJ's mind.

Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
If we assume Synder gets ~$1.0M and Jelkin DOESNT sign....

#Mets could offer Adam Haight ~$640k to sign him away from Oregon......that wont nearly be enough though.

Perhaps the extra money could be used to convince Jelkin to sign? Not sure why it seems like he's leaning No.

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finish up this draft class (assuming Hight's a definite no-no). Mets have got a week to change JJ's mind.

I would guess the reason is they don't want to set a precedent that if you are the last guy to sign the Mets will give you all of their leftover pool money. That being said, if you are losing slot+5% anyway by not signing him I would at least try to entice him with that.

I'm learning a lot from you guys with this slot stuff. Much appreciated!

know which guy to make their last signings vs which ones not to. the team is in total control of their order of operations.

remember NIL now exists, so for the guys considering college im sure there is so back/forth bidding that takes place post-draft that didnt used to happen. if NIL bids start increasing after the draft that will certainly factor into signing decisions, especially for guys who werent dead set one way or the other to start with.

posted this in the other thread

"“We knew that the Mets liked me because their area scout had come to most of my high school games,” Hampson added.

It’s Hampson’s strong right arm that seems to interest MLB scouts the most. His fastball has been clocked at above 90 miles per hour; he also throws a curveball and a splitter.

Despite all the attention, Hampson was never really sure if one of the 30 major league teams would draft him. Hampson had earlier made a commitment to play college baseball at the University of Oregon and then changed his plans to begin his collegiate career locally and attend Everett Community College starting in September.

In early July, Hampson joined the Wenatchee Applesox, a summer amateur baseball league team to help keep his skills sharp in preparation for his time in the collegiate ranks.

But everything changed last week when he was the 533rd overall pick in the 2024 MLB draft. He packed up his summer gear, headed home to Mill Creek for some final goodbyes with friends and family, then flew to Florida for two days of physicals with Mets trainers and the eventual signing of his rookie contract."

the rumors were accurate

Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
5th-rder Trey Snyder signs w/@Mets
for $1,322,500 (slot 144 = $476,200). Missouri prep SS, mature hitter, contact profile w/15-20 HR pop, solid arm, good internal clock. @Vol_Baseball
recruit. @MLBDraft

can offer Jelkin $282,810 (or 86,110 over slot) but that's probably not enough to change his mind.

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final tally appears to be 18/20 signed + 6 UDFA's (all RHP)

19 pitchers, 3 OFer's, a SS and a 2b

Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
Correction...

Once Jelkin not signing becomes official....it will take away $200k from the #Mets max bonus pool which in turn increases the amount of "overage" the Mets will end up at.

Final number will end up being

$395k overspent (4.2% over)
$296k penalty tax on the overage

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can offer Jelkin $282,810 (or 86,110 over slot) but that's probably not enough to change his mind.

Considering that is the phase where some teams are going for their $10,000 Senior Signs it sucks he didn't sign, but it is not like we passed on a number of clearly better people who were signable to take him so I am not going to lose sleep over it. Surprised he is leaving that on the table to go back to school as it would take him having a 1st Round caliber performance to make more money next year (Collins was one of the highest paid seniors this year at $275K).

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the rumors were accurate Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 5th-rder Trey Snyder signs w/@Mets for $1,322,500 (slot 144 = $476,200). Missouri prep SS, mature hitter, contact profile w/15-20 HR pop, solid arm, good internal clock. @Vol_Baseball recruit. @MLBDraft

big $. hopefully they get twice the prospect of baro/ewing but that seems a little aggressive. if he's the best of the 3 that's probably good enough.

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In comment 16559739 DanMetroMan said: Quote: can offer Jelkin $282,810 (or 86,110 over slot) but that's probably not enough to change his mind. Considering that is the phase where some teams are going for their $10,000 Senior Signs it sucks he didn't sign, but it is not like we passed on a number of clearly better people who were signable to take him so I am not going to lose sleep over it. Surprised he is leaving that on the table to go back to school as it would take him having a 1st Round caliber performance to make more money next year (Collins was one of the highest paid seniors this year at $275K).

remember he's probably getting some amount of NIL money that offsets.

considering Snyder was probably a high profile NIL guy for UT off a NC, i wonder if maybe that price got jacked up which is what took jelkin off the table.

confirms he's giving up pitching. OF only

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the rumors were accurate Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 5th-rder Trey Snyder signs w/@Mets for $1,322,500 (slot 144 = $476,200). Missouri prep SS, mature hitter, contact profile w/15-20 HR pop, solid arm, good internal clock. @Vol_Baseball recruit. @MLBDraft

They think they found an inconsistency in his swing. If they are right about it. And can fix it. Steal.

their signing status (see article on the bottom):

-18/20 signed + 6 FA (even though that's not indicated)
-The deadline to sign drafted players & UDFA is tomorrow at 5 pm EDT.

2024 Mets Draft Pick Signing Tracker: Check back in here for updates on the Mets’ 2024 draft picks. - By Lukas Vlahos and Steve Sypa | July 20, 2024, 8:51pm EDT


Mets 2024 Draft - ( New Window )

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their signing status (see article on the bottom): -18/20 signed + 6 FA (even though that's not indicated) -The deadline to sign drafted players & UDFA is tomorrow at 5 pm EDT. 2024 Mets Draft Pick Signing Tracker: Check back in here for updates on the Mets’ 2024 draft picks. - By Lukas Vlahos and Steve Sypa | July 20, 2024, 8:51pm EDT Mets 2024 Draft - ( New Window )

Even with Jelkin not signing and adding 105% to what was been spent so far we are not in danger of busting the overslot.

is tomorrow at 5 and it appears this will be the final group. 18/20

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is tomorrow at 5 and it appears this will be the final group. 18/20

so jelkin leaves about $400k on table? seems risky for a pitcher without a track record of throwing a lot of innings. basically has to get himself picked top 150. would he be a senior sign next year or does he have 2 chances to get himself into better draft position if next year isn't the year he hopes?

has 1 year of eligibility left unless he's granted a 5th year due to his elbow.

they won't be signing Jelkin (BA had him as one of the top players they drafted) but you can't force a player to sign and he may well have received NIL money to offset some of his risk.

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they won't be signing Jelkin (BA had him as one of the top players they drafted) but you can't force a player to sign and he may well have received NIL money to offset some of his risk.

yeah seems like a risky decision unless he got a big chunk ($100-200k) of NIL money.

The Mets have 6. They're as follows:

1) Hoss Brewer, RHP, Little Rock
2) Chandler Marsh, RHP, Georgia (BA 500 rank: No. 383)
3) Hunter Hodges, RHP, TCU (BA 500 rank: 489)
4) Hayden Cooper, RHP, West Virginia
5) Channing Austin, RHP, USC
6) Eldridge Armstrong, RHP, Texas A&M


The link from Baseball America is listed below...

2024 MLB Undrafted Free Agent Signing Tracker For Every Team | July 27, 2024 | BA Staff - ( New Window )

officially announce signing 18/20 + 6 UDFA's. Jelkin/Haight the two who didn't sign

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officially announce signing 18/20 + 6 UDFA's. Jelkin/Haight the two who didn't sign

Very odd. Mets never made Jelkin a formal offer so he will become a FA at 5 PM tomorrow

In comment 16565467 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16565204 DanMetroMan said: Quote: officially announce signing 18/20 + 6 UDFA's. Jelkin/Haight the two who didn't sign Very odd. Mets never made Jelkin a formal offer so he will become a FA at 5 PM tomorrow

I'm guessing Mets can't sign him as a FA and give him more money since it doesn't count towards bonus pool anymore? That would be some loophole so figure no way.

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In comment 16565204 DanMetroMan said: Quote: officially announce signing 18/20 + 6 UDFA's. Jelkin/Haight the two who didn't sign Very odd. Mets never made Jelkin a formal offer so he will become a FA at 5 PM tomorrow

I read that earlier. It confused the heck outta me. Why?

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Wonder if they felt deceived by something or just something unknown popped up in the medicals? they pay tax on overage so the $400k to him would have been more than that so obviously something made them feel compelled to not bother.

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Updated Post – July 31, 9:10 PM The New York Mets announced on Wednesday that they’ve signed 18 of their 20 draft picks from 2024. The only two picks they couldn’t come to terms with were ninth-rounder RHP Jaxon Jelkin and 20th-rounder SS Adam Haight.

METS SIGN 18 OF 20 DRAFT PICKS Posted by Michael Mayer | Jul 31, 2024 - ( New Window )

1. once drafting him they got access to information that scared them off (likely medical)

2. once drafting him, he somehow conducted himself in a way that scared them off (less likely, though if his side had been deceptive or misleading about something in the medical or his price tag, that would possibly check both boxes)

i cant find who his agent is, so who knows. with better agents i usually doubt those kinds of things dont happen, but even boras allowed it to happen with rocker. they drafted him knowing about tjs, so there had to be something unexpected that caused them to decide burning $400k was better than offering him.

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The Draft signing deadline may be looming at 5 p.m. ET on Thursday, but don't expect much drama. No. 20 overall pick Trey Yesavage agreed to a $4,177,500 deal with the Blue Jays on Thursday morning, as well as North Carolina outfielder Vance Honeycutt (No. 22, Orioles) who signed for $4 million. With those two deals, every player from the first round has now agreed to terms with their club. That leaves just four other players in top 10 rounds without deals: supplemental second-rounders Tyler Bell (Rays) and Chris Levonas (Brewers), third-rounder Ryan Prager (Angels) and ninth-rounder Jaxon Jelkin (Mets). None of them are projected to sign.

MLB Draft - Draft deadline: Thursday, 5 pm ET. Here's who hasn't signed - 10:19 AM EDT - Jim Callis @JimCallisMLB - ( New Window )

Here are two articles:

Blue Jays sign No. 20 overall pick Yesavage - 4:21 PM EDT - MLB.com

Orioles sign 1st-round Draft pick Honeycutt | 11:52 AM EDT | Jason Foster @ByJasonFoster

These two guys (Honeycutt at #22 & Yesavage at #20) were rumored at certain points to go to the Mets at 19.

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Four players in the top 10 rounds did not turn pro -- supplemental second-rounders Tyler Bell (Rays) and Chris Levonas (Brewers), third-rounder Ryan Prager (Angels) and ninth-rounder Jaxon Jelkin (Mets). That was the most unsigned players from the first 10 rounds since the 2018 Draft also had four. The Rays (No. 67), Brewers (No. 68) and Angels (end of third round) will receive compensation choices in the 2025 Draft for failing to sign their 2024 early-rounders. New York will get nothing for not landing Jelkin.

Draft deadline passes with all first-rounders on board, but here's who didn't sign | 9 minutes ago | Jim Callis @JimCallisMLB - ( New Window )

The total number of drafted players for all 20 rounds was 615 this year. In rounds 1 through 10, only 4 players didn't sign. Of course, one of them was a Met (RHP 9th round pick Jaxon Jelkin out of the Univ. of Houston).

I'm wondering how many didn't didn't sign from rounds 11 to 20? We know one---our 20th round pick: High School SS Adam Haight who's committed to Oregon State. Anyone know how many didn't sign from rounds 11 to 20 besides him?

-I found that out 7.32% of the 615 players drafted didn't sign. A total of 45 went unsigned (making the signing rate 92.68%).
-4 players from Rounds 1 through 10 didn't sign, which means that 98.73% of the players drafted signed with the club that drafted them (1.27% did not).
-41 players from Rounds 11 through 20 didn't sign, which means that 86.33% of the players drafted signed with the club that drafted them (13.67% did not).
-Each team, on average, has 1.5 drafted players who didn't sign this year.

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-I found that out 7.32% of the 615 players drafted didn't sign. A total of 45 went unsigned (making the signing rate 92.68%). -4 players from Rounds 1 through 10 didn't sign, which means that 98.73% of the players drafted signed with the club that drafted them (1.27% did not). -41 players from Rounds 11 through 20 didn't sign, which means that 86.33% of the players drafted signed with the club that drafted them (13.67% did not). -Each team, on average, has 1.5 drafted players who didn't sign this year.

The 1.5 makes sense as teams usually have a “just in case” pick or two especially late in the draft. The Mets gave their 5th round pick 7 figures. If they did medicals and realized a glaring issue that negated the deal that was discussed pre draft they could suddenly end up with a glut of cash which they could have then offered their 20th round pick.

I'm not sure of the intricate rules for Compensation Picks.

Why was Jaxon J not worthy of a Comp Pick ? Which Round is the cutoff point ?

If I remember reading correctly -- Jaxon had some kind of disciplinary issue, no ?

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I'm not sure of the intricate rules for Compensation Picks. Why was Jaxon J not worthy of a Comp Pick ? Which Round is the cutoff point ? If I remember reading correctly -- Jaxon had some kind of disciplinary issue, no ?

I believe it is 3rd or 4th Round that is the cutoff and only if you tender a certain minimum contract (I believe 40% of slot) unless they refused to go through certain pre draft testing (in which case you don’t have to offer a contract to get a comp pick if selecting that high).

-Only 6 teams signed all of their draft picks (3 from the A.L. & 3 from the N.L.): BAL, BOS, CLE, ATL, CHC, & COL.

-The Brewers had the most unsigned draft picks, with a total number of 6: Round CB-B after RD 2, 11, 14, 17, 19, & 20.

-Arizona had 4 unsigned draft picks: RDs 17, 18, 19, & 20.

-The Rangers (RDs 18, 19, & 20), Reds (RDs 14, 19, & 20), & Dodgers (RDs 15, 19, & 20) had 3 each.

-Seven teams had two unsigned draft picks, of which the Mets were one. They're as follows:
TOR (RDs 19 & 20), DET (RD 16 & 19), MIN (RD 16 & 20), LAA (RD 3 & 19), OAK (RD 16 & 20), NYM (RD 9 & 20), & PIT (RD 16 & 20).

-12 teams had only 1 unsigned draft pick:
NYY (RD 20), TB (RD CB-B after RD 2), CWS (RD 20), KC (RD 17), HOU (RD 20), SEA (RD 19), MIA (RD 15), PHI (RD 14), WSH (RD 20), STL (RD 19), SFG (RD 19), & SDP (RD 20).

they picked this past draft (the deadline to sign players was at 5 pm ET on August 1st):

(I forgot to ass a title)

Sorry!