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NFT: Macbook Owners - need advice on new laptop

DC Gmen Fan : 7/16/2024 9:43 am
I'm still banging away on my 13" 2013 macbook pro which has been a tank for over 10 years but she's starting to show her age in terms of slower processing and short battery life. Still, 10+ years of travel, spills, and abuse, the I've been blown away at its resilience.

That said, Prime Day deals include new MacBooks but I'm at analysis paralysis when trying to figure out what to get.

I know I want to stick with the 14" screen, but not sure which M chip to get. (M2, M3, M3 PRo, M3 Max, etc) or even MacBook Air. Most of the use is browsing, MS office, teams, zoom, occasional iMovie projects, some Netflix, maybe some light garage band and music editing.

Ideally I'd like to keep the whole package under $2K.

Any thoughts or advice?
oh and I'm sticking with Mac so please no other recommendations  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/16/2024 9:44 am : link
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I just got the cheapest Mac Mini with the M2 chip and I'm amazed at  
Ira : 7/16/2024 9:54 am : link
how fast it is.
As a Mac owner since 2003  
Kev in Cali : 7/16/2024 10:07 am : link
The new M chips are plenty fast enough for what you do. Just get the cheapest one which is the M2 now I think.
I had M1 pro but switched to M2 air and its been my favorite mac yet  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 10:13 am : link
biggest life changer is the battery life, literally pretty much all day and with fast charging it only takes 30 minutes or so to get back to full power.

i upgraded the ram to 24gb just to be safe coming from the pro (which was 32gb). within the M line i wouldnt go back farther than m2 (or to any model without magsafe charger).

prior i was like you running a 2013 intel mac, which was still working pretty well in year 8. the apple sillicon just seemed like a worthy leap (and imo it absolutely is). my intel mac battery was probably down to 2-3 hours max unplugged, maybe less, and i can still remember the sound of the fan kicking on. haven't heard it once since.
FYI: MacBook Air only comes in 13 & 15 inch screens  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/16/2024 10:13 am : link
So if you’re dead set on 14 you have stick with Pro.
If you’re carrying the notebook around a lot,  
Section331 : 7/16/2024 10:17 am : link
than I’d go with MacBook Air, otherwise, no, save a few bucks. Unless you’re editing video or playing video games, I wouldn’t worry about the chip. Any newer MacBook is going to be plenty fast.
13" is ok. I've been hesitant to get the Air  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/16/2024 10:19 am : link
just because I've always had this perception it's not as capable/powerful as the pro. Maybe that line of thinking is wrong?
RE: If you’re carrying the notebook around a lot,  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/16/2024 10:20 am : link
In comment 16553965 Section331 said:
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than I’d go with MacBook Air, otherwise, no, save a few bucks. Unless you’re editing video or playing video games, I wouldn’t worry about the chip. Any newer MacBook is going to be plenty fast.


I would be doing some video editing of family videos and such. Nothing really on the "professional" level or anything like that.
RE: FYI: MacBook Air only comes in 13 & 15 inch screens  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 10:20 am : link
In comment 16553958 Jim in Fairfax said:
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So if you’re dead set on 14 you have stick with Pro.


it's technically 13.6 vs 14.2, having had both i personally think the portability is worth the minor difference but that's just personal preference. the air easily fits into any smaller backpack or travel sleeve, pro fits most everything too but it had more of a full size feel. if you have an extended monitor situation i think the portability is a no brainer (and the price diff can go to a good monitor to extend to).

the only reason id go for the pro is if i had real heavy duty processing needs.
RE: 13  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16553969 DC Gmen Fan said:
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just because I've always had this perception it's not as capable/powerful as the pro. Maybe that line of thinking is wrong?


i think the prior gens that was true especially in base models but the apple silicon changed the game. my wife had airs before but this is my first and performance vs pro (both Ms) has been indistinguishable.

i am mostly in microsoft and adobe suites, dont do a ton of video stuff but a decent amount of photoshop. id trust air to handle anything other than really heavy duty professional photo/video editing tasks. and im not even sure it wouldnt be able to handle that. it looks like you can max out the ram in the M2 air same as M3 air or pro with same cpu/gpu. im guessing the m3 pro gets the extra battery life with a bigger battery since it can fit in the bigger form?


Battery life is the biggest difference  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 10:36 am : link
IMO between air and pro I have the same year (or close) model air for home and pro for work and the biggest difference I noticed is battery.

Initially the air battery got close to the same as the pro, but over time, it stops lasting that long. And the time until it starts degrading is shorter (meaning first year maybe it would last 12+ hours possibly 18, now (my air - a 2020 13-inch 1.4 GHz quad core i5 with 8 GB RAM) lasts about 6 hours before it's in low battery mode and 6.5 hours before it shuts down.

My 14 inch M1 pro with 16GB RAM (actually a 2021) for work still lasts all day without being plugged in.

RE: RE: If you’re carrying the notebook around a lot,  
Section331 : 7/16/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16553971 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 16553965 Section331 said:


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than I’d go with MacBook Air, otherwise, no, save a few bucks. Unless you’re editing video or playing video games, I wouldn’t worry about the chip. Any newer MacBook is going to be plenty fast.



I would be doing some video editing of family videos and such. Nothing really on the "professional" level or anything like that.


Then I wouldn’t sweat too much over the difference between the M2 and M3, you’re unlikely to notice it much. I think the bigger difference would be Air v. Pro, if you’re lugging it around a lot, I would go with Air.
RE: Battery life is the biggest difference  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 10:43 am : link
In comment 16553986 pjcas18 said:
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IMO between air and pro I have the same year (or close) model air for home and pro for work and the biggest difference I noticed is battery.

Initially the air battery got close to the same as the pro, but over time, it stops lasting that long. And the time until it starts degrading is shorter (meaning first year maybe it would last 12+ hours possibly 18, now (my air - a 2020 13-inch 1.4 GHz quad core i5 with 8 GB RAM) lasts about 6 hours before it's in low battery mode and 6.5 hours before it shuts down.

My 14 inch M1 pro with 16GB RAM (actually a 2021) for work still lasts all day without being plugged in.


the 2020 i5 is an intel chip? that's apples/oranges vs apple chips especially with battery life. a 2020 intel probably performs closer to a 2013 machine than a 2021 m chip.
Looking online at prices,  
Section331 : 7/16/2024 10:44 am : link
the difference between an M2 v M3 is only $100, so I would go with the M3. Pro v Air comes down to HD storage, the Pro starts at 500 GB, which is where Air maxes out. If you’re using cloud storage, Air is much more affordable.
RE: RE: Battery life is the biggest difference  
pjcas18 : 7/16/2024 10:50 am : link
In comment 16553991 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16553986 pjcas18 said:


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IMO between air and pro I have the same year (or close) model air for home and pro for work and the biggest difference I noticed is battery.

Initially the air battery got close to the same as the pro, but over time, it stops lasting that long. And the time until it starts degrading is shorter (meaning first year maybe it would last 12+ hours possibly 18, now (my air - a 2020 13-inch 1.4 GHz quad core i5 with 8 GB RAM) lasts about 6 hours before it's in low battery mode and 6.5 hours before it shuts down.

My 14 inch M1 pro with 16GB RAM (actually a 2021) for work still lasts all day without being plugged in.




the 2020 i5 is an intel chip? that's apples/oranges vs apple chips especially with battery life. a 2020 intel probably performs closer to a 2013 machine than a 2021 m chip.


Yes, good point. My air runs on an Intel chip - that's how they sold the airs in 2020 they didn't switch to the apple processor in an air until 2022.




RE: Looking online at prices,  
Eric on Li : 7/16/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16553992 Section331 said:
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the difference between an M2 v M3 is only $100, so I would go with the M3. Pro v Air comes down to HD storage, the Pro starts at 500 GB, which is where Air maxes out. If you’re using cloud storage, Air is much more affordable.


yeah it looks like the prices for m2/m3 are basically negligible and the bigger price determiner is ram.

amazon has a 16gb 2024 m3 for $200 off which ends up at 1299, that seems like a good deal. looks like it's only $50 more than m2's with 16gb ram.

my air has 1tb and it looks like you can still max that out as an option but i've only used like 250 so i think 500 is probably enough unless someone is working with really big files.
the MB Pro M2 chip  
RasputinPrime : 7/16/2024 10:13 pm : link
with no less than 32GB of ram. I connect to 4 monitors and a tv and run everything under the sun with no slowdown. No need for more than that.
The cheapest M1 will blow the doors off any Intel Mac  
Ron from Ninerland : 7/17/2024 10:32 am : link
My last Intel Mac was an MBP with an 8 core i9, just about the most powerful machine they've had at the time. Since then I've bought an M1 mini, an M1 pro MBP for myself and an M1 air for my wife.

Not only are they all an order faster than the Intels, they NEVER heat up. The mini and the pro both have fans, but they've never been used in normal work, I wouldn't even know they were there if I hadn't run diagnostics to check the fans.

As to which one to buy I couldn't tell you in terms of performance. I'd say as far as specs go, get 16Gb or RAM and a 512Mb SSD.
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