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Doubledeuce22 : 7/17/2024 4:15 pm
Rojas, Baugh, Hukporti, and Kolek have all been impressive today. Duane Washington has been very good too. Dadiet hasn’t done much.
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Rokas*  
Doubledeuce22 : 7/17/2024 4:16 pm : link
Autocorrect lol
I don’t know who this Baugh  
Doubledeuce22 : 7/17/2024 4:39 pm : link
Kid is but he’s been impressive though these first few games. Kolek is absolutely going to be the backup PG for the Knicks. I doubted him pre draft but it looks like I was wrong on this one. He has a good handle on the ball and when he’s playing with the Knicks he’s going to flourish passing the ball.
Baugh  
DanMetroMan : 7/17/2024 4:46 pm : link
is 6'4" and only took 24 3's in the G league last season (13 games) shooting 29%, 31% in college from 3. Not many players can get away with being that size without an outside shot.
I had to look Baugh up -  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 4:51 pm : link
can't say I'd ever heard of him before yesterday.

Probably G League material.
BTW, Baugh started because Toppin  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 4:53 pm : link
has an injury of some kind. So he replaced a F.
RE: BTW, Baugh started because Toppin  
Doubledeuce22 : 7/17/2024 4:59 pm : link
In comment 16555035 Del Shofner said:
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has an injury of some kind. So he replaced a F.


It’s time to move on from Toppin IMO. He’s awful and not getting any better.
Jokubaitis showcasing some skills.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/17/2024 5:00 pm : link
I doubt he has a future with the Knicks but his rights might have some trade value.
lol, Lewis is another guy I've never heard of -  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 5:07 pm : link
looks like he can shoot a little.
Washington whines more than Luka.  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 5:14 pm : link
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RE: Washington whines more than Luka.  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16555050 bceagle05 said:
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Just took a bad shot at a big moment too. Selfish.
and Kolek saves the win  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 5:25 pm : link
for the Knicks
THE TYLER KOLEK GAME  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 5:25 pm : link
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Kolek, FTW!  
Anakim : 7/17/2024 5:25 pm : link
He saved us!
Rokas played well too.  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 5:33 pm : link
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Turned it on for the last few minutes,  
Mike from SI : 7/17/2024 5:34 pm : link
at least we know the Kolek kid has balls.
Box score  
Ira : 7/17/2024 5:39 pm : link
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RE: Turned it on for the last few minutes,  
81_Great_Dane : 7/17/2024 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16555062 Mike from SI said:
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at least we know the Kolek kid has balls.
Kolek looks NBA ready, which is not to say ready to play major minutes.

Dadiet is a project, but that’s no surprise.

The two bigs look like camp invites and one may beat out Sims but neither is ready to be backup center on a good team.
Kolek's game  
k2tampa : 7/17/2024 6:14 pm : link
Was a big improvement from yesterday. The key with him will be can he stay with NBA point guards defensively.
Kolek  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/17/2024 6:27 pm : link
I want to see Kolek destroy the G-league like Deuce did. He can, i just want him to be undeniable to the main roster.
RE: BTW, Baugh started because Toppin  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/17/2024 6:28 pm : link
In comment 16555035 Del Shofner said:
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has an injury of some kind. So he replaced a F.


Sore hip as reported.
Interesting  
nygiants16 : 7/17/2024 7:08 pm : link
Let’s Talk Knicks (LTK)
@LetsTalkKnicks_
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“Others are concerned about Randle going into this pivotal season with free agency looming and the challenges that may present. In addition, some decision-makers aren’t as bullish about the general fit of the current group.



This is from Begely, first time he has mentioned the thought of the Knicks moving Randle...
Randle and Mitch are definitely next up on the chopping block  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 7:38 pm : link
if another big trade is made at some point. And Hartenstein’s departure may have spared Mitch for a little while.
RE: Kolek's game  
Ira : 7/17/2024 8:26 pm : link
In comment 16555078 k2tampa said:
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Was a big improvement from yesterday. The key with him will be can he stay with NBA point guards defensively.
I agree. He's a good shooter, a very good passer, but he's got a long way to go defensively.
Maybe I'm underestimating OG but  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 8:27 pm : link
I don't see how you replace Randle right now. There isn't another big on the roster with his combination of power and skill, other than OG but he already has his role, plus he's injured a lot.

Of course things could look different at the deadline, and they may not want to deal with Randle's free agency.
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Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16555070 81_Great_Dane said:
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Kolek looks NBA ready, which is not to say ready to play major minutes.

Dadiet is a project, but that’s no surprise.

The two bigs look like camp invites and one may beat out Sims but neither is ready to be backup center on a good team.


Agree with those takes.

There's also McCullar, who hasn't played SL because he's still re-habbing, which also hurt him in the draft. Some projected him in Round 1 before the injury.

"While McCullar Jr. doesn’t project as a star at the NBA level he’s one of the more NBA ready players in the 2024 NBA draft and should be able to step in early in his career and contribute.

He’s a standout defender who can guard three positions and also plays really good team defense. He’s got good size and strength for a guard, although he isn’t an elite run/jump athlete.

He’s become a much better catch and shooter player and has really improved from downtown. Becoming a knockdown shooter will go a long way towards helping him have a long and successful NBA career.

Comparisons - Josh Hart

Draft Projection - late first to mid second round pick in the 2024 NBA Draft"


I get both sides of Randle.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2024 9:08 pm : link
People know my opinion of Randle over the years. I was all for moving him when his value was high. We obviously didn't and now I see the dumbest trades out there on social media. I see garbage in return. I'd much rather have Randle this year and lose him for nothing than do most of these dumbass trades and not have him this year.

I forgot what player or ex-player said this but if you trade Randle, then what are you getting in return. He basically said it is odd to see a top player traded for another top player at the same position. I'm not saying it is impossible but it is weird. And then people keep bringing Mitch up. We have no real backups to these guy yet I see dumb shit like both of them, McBride, and someone else for KAT. Get the fuck out of here with that.
You won't get actual value for Randle  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/17/2024 9:29 pm : link
Not even fans seem to acknowledge his *actual* value.
It’s complicated all around.  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 9:41 pm : link
He won’t find a better basketball fit than the Knicks, but he may want more money than the Knicks are willing to give him. He’s also turning 30 and had shoulder and ankle surgeries over the past year, so that hurts his trade value too.

Katz was a little skeptical about the extension this summer too.
Rokas says he’s ready for the NBA.  
bceagle05 : 7/17/2024 9:44 pm : link
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Rokas did look good this afternoon, but I don't see where he'll fit on  
Ira : 7/17/2024 9:46 pm : link
the Knicks.
RE: Rokas did look good this afternoon, but I don't see where he'll fit on  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2024 10:00 pm : link
In comment 16555133 Ira said:
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the Knicks.


Yeah, that's the thing. There's JB, Cam and Kolek, not to mention Deuce if you consider him a PG (which I don't really).

I will say that while I have nothing against Burks personally - seems like a good guy - I am happy that he signed with another team. Him as PG was just not good.
RE: BTW, Baugh started because Toppin  
TheMick7 : 7/18/2024 6:58 am : link
In comment 16555035 Del Shofner said:
[quote] has an injury of some kind. So he replaced a F. [/quote

Wat has impressed me about Baugh is his defense,which has been very impressive. His offense,at least for a game,caught up to his D yesterday!
RE: Rokas did look good this afternoon, but I don't see where he'll fit on  
LTIsTheGreatest : 7/18/2024 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16555133 Ira said:
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the Knicks.


I agree. Maybe he has some trade value as a part of a package to get a backup Center
Not  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2024 2:30 pm : link
that the Knicks were counting on McCullar for anything this season but the knee still being an issue in Mid-July after initially feeling pain in February... not great.
RE: RE: Rokas did look good this afternoon, but I don't see where he'll fit on  
Ira : 7/18/2024 2:32 pm : link
In comment 16555479 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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In comment 16555133 Ira said:


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the Knicks.



I agree. Maybe he has some trade value as a part of a package to get a backup Center


That sounds like a good idea.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2024 2:40 pm : link
Bleacher Report
@BleacherReport
BREAKING: Clippers are sending Russell Westbrook, second-round pick swap and cash to the Jazz in a sign and trade for Kris Dunn, per @wojespn


Westbrook is “expected to agree” on a contract buyout with the Jazz, clearing the way for him to join the Nuggets
Begley  
Jon In NYC : 7/18/2024 6:20 pm : link
had a report saying the Knicks checked in on Capela. Only two paths to make the money work there: Mitch trade or Randle trade. Both kinda suck for Capela unless we were able to get Jalen Johnson too. He's going to be really really good if he isn't already.
RE: Begley  
nygiants16 : 7/18/2024 6:36 pm : link
In comment 16555663 Jon In NYC said:
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had a report saying the Knicks checked in on Capela. Only two paths to make the money work there: Mitch trade or Randle trade. Both kinda suck for Capela unless we were able to get Jalen Johnson too. He's going to be really really good if he isn't already.


Could use Precious sign and trade to make up the difference
I still  
Jon In NYC : 7/18/2024 8:18 pm : link
think it's going to be Kessler and they're just waiting for the Lauri trade to get done first.
And/or  
Jon In NYC : 7/18/2024 8:20 pm : link
they're waiting until the draft picks are eligible to be traded
RE: I still  
nygiants16 : 7/18/2024 9:09 pm : link
In comment 16555730 Jon In NYC said:
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think it's going to be Kessler and they're just waiting for the Lauri trade to get done first.


They are definitely working or waiting on something, it may end up being Precious but you wiukd think if they arent working on something Precious of signed already
Final Summer League game today at 6pm on ESPN.  
bceagle05 : 7/20/2024 3:57 pm : link
Last Knicks action til opening night.
Not starting a separate thread  
JT039 : 7/20/2024 4:05 pm : link
But our Olympic team is getting thrashed by South Sudan. Down 14 at half. Embiid is terrible. Booker is overrated and has a tough role on this team.

Their best 5 is

Curry
Tatum
Edward’s
James
Davis
Embiid  
JT039 : 7/20/2024 4:34 pm : link
Doesn’t belong on this team.
Nice to hear Sarah Kustok of the YES Network  
bceagle05 : 7/20/2024 6:18 pm : link
on the call for this Knicks game - she just spent five minutes raving about what Bridges will add to the Knicks.
RE: Final Summer League game today at 6pm on ESPN.  
Del Shofner : 7/20/2024 6:37 pm : link
In comment 16556391 bceagle05 said:
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Last Knicks action til opening night.


Rokas with a sweet alley-oop to Hukporti
well, finished SL 3-2 after starting 0-2 -  
Del Shofner : 7/20/2024 9:16 pm : link
that finish by Kolek for the first win seems to have set the tone for the next two games. He's a leader besides being a great passer and at least an OK shooter. His defense against real NBA PGs remains to be seen.

At C, Skap looked halfway decent. Kind of the same question as with Kolek - are his feet fast enough to play D in the NBA, against stretch 5s? Jury is out on that but he can rebound and has a little bit of an offensive game. Hukporti is sort of like early Mitch - rebounding and D, almost no offensive game.

Rokas looks good, looked better and better as SL went on. We are not shallow at PG at the moment - JB, Cam, Kolek, Rokas and Deuce if you consider him a PG. One of Cam, Deuce or Rokas could be trade bait.

Dadiet looked quite good on D, quite bad on O. But he's 18.

Baugh, who I never heard of before this SL, helped his cause and should at least stick in the G League. None of the other no-names really stood out. And i wouldn't mind never seeing D. Washington play as a Knick again. Nothing against him, but he's a chucker and that's not what we need.

Not to be cruel to Mitch but both summer league are showing  
fredgbrown : 7/20/2024 9:24 pm : link
more offensive game than Mitch. Have you seen Mitch with the ball in his hands if he doesn't dunk it...I don't have faith he will make most shots.
But none of the centers have the defense and rim protection Mitch  
fredgbrown : 7/20/2024 9:25 pm : link
does but they did a little better last couple of games.
Neither of them will replace Mitch, but one of them might replace Sims  
Ira : 7/20/2024 9:34 pm : link
at some point.
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